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"Invincibility"
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"Invincibility"
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COOL PIC ...ridges and thickness all over,,,probably enhanced as well still sick pic.
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Anotest, very cool.
What makes this product different that the others?
phil looking wide there.
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I was with them for 2 years. Good people, good company. Supplements are just that, SUPPLEMENTS. They are not going to replace food or gear.
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I was with them for 2 years. Good people, good company. Supplements are just that, SUPPLEMENTS. They are not going to replace food or gear.
you worked for MuscleTech?
Dock Loader? or Janitor???
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Anotest, very cool.
What makes this product different that the others?
phil looking wide there.
Well, it's safe to say it's nothing like a previous MuscleTech product with a similar name, Anotesten (which was time-released androstenedione, androstenediol, and DHEA).
(http://www.fitpage.de/produkte/assets/big/anotestenmtg.jpg)
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you worked for MuscleTech?
Dock Loader? or Janitor???
hollup mahnihkuh, thats just skr8 cism' why he cant be cleaning engineer nor loading specialist
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I always liked muscletech - solid products that work cannot say a bad word about them
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I was with them for 2 years. Good people, good company. Supplements are just that, SUPPLEMENTS. They are not going to replace food or gear.
Oh, yeah. ::)
Its owner and founder, Paul Gardiner, started the company on lies and zero product.
Good people? Maybe the underlings who haven't a clue what the company is founded upon or really understand the full-on horseshit of the ads.
There's NOTHING honourable about MuscleTech.
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Oh, yeah. ::) Its owner and founder, Paul Gardiner, started the company on lies and zero product.
Good people? Maybe the underlings who haven't a clue what the company is founded upon or really understand the full-on horseshit of the ads.
There's NOTHING honourable about MuscleTech.
before i found getbig i was a victim of THE SUPPLEMENT companies and their false ads :'( :'( $200 for 3lbs of muscle gains
;D ;D ;D
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Anotest, very cool.
What makes this product different that the others?
phil looking wide there.
I'd say Invincibility is a nice extra to go along with your 3000% gains
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Oh, yeah. ::)
Its owner and founder, Paul Gardiner, started the company on lies and zero product.
Good people? Maybe the underlings who haven't a clue what the company is founded upon or really understand the full-on horseshit of the ads.
There's NOTHING honourable about MuscleTech.
THANK YOU!
Anyone older than 16 should remember their Creatine 6000 that would make you gain 6000% mass according to claims, their Acetabolan which was their pre-hormone and their ECA stack in the original Hydroxycut that made you lose 100 pounds of fat in 24 hours. They made the biggest bullshit claims then slowly their amazing products dissapeared as other bullshit products came out.
Mikecox saying a supp is a supp, well if that's true then why does MT continue to make their BS claims? They completely revamped their supps into a total waste of money trying to appeal to athletes and the mainstream person. Muscletech is completely snake oil now.
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Snake oil incorporated!
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THANK YOU!
Anyone older than 16 should remember their Creatine 6000 that would make you gain 6000% mass according to claims, their Acetabolan which was their pre-hormone and their ECA stack in the original Hydroxycut that made you lose 100 pounds of fat in 24 hours. They made the biggest bullshit claims then slowly their amazing products dissapeared as other bullshit products came out.
Mikecox saying a supp is a supp, well if that's true then why does MT continue to make their BS claims? They completely revamped their supps into a total waste of money trying to appeal to athletes and the mainstream person. Muscletech is completely snake oil now.
I was there from the brand's VERY beginnings. Paul was the manager of the MMI store downstairs from where we produced the magazine, and he'd talk endlessly at lunch about doing what Bill Phillips did. He has zero formulation/science background.
He'd use my computer after hours to write up those first ads.
He had the labels printed before there was product ... which in the 11th hour he ordered from some random supplier.
(That is him in the first fat-to-ripped photos. He was using drugs before and simply stopped and ate Wendy's every day to get fat, which he magnified with cotton in his cheeks, pushed-out-gut, spritzer-bottle sweat, sad look on face ... Then he started working out again and using steroids and clen ... )
The crooks and flakes who have gone through that company's upper offices is staggering.
Give them a dime and you're a total fool.
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If I was going to take any supplements, it would 100% definitely not be muscletech. Garbage. How can they sell that shit? :/
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Bee pollen and whore-pussy
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Do pros even use supplements, besides protein?
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Do pros even use supplements, besides protein?
Bee pollen and whore-pussy
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I was there from the brand's VERY beginnings. Paul was the manager of the MMI store downstairs from where we produced the magazine, and he'd talk endlessly at lunch about doing what Bill Phillips did. He has zero formulation/science background.
He'd use my computer after hours to write up those first ads.
He had the labels printed before there was product ... which in the 11th hour he ordered from some random supplier.
(That is him in the first fat-to-ripped photos. He was using drugs before and simply stopped and ate Wendy's every day to get fat, which he magnified with cotton in his cheeks, pushed-out-gut, spritzer-bottle sweat, sad look on face ... Then he started working out again and using steroids and clen ... )
The crooks and flakes who have gone through that company's upper offices is staggering.
Give them a dime and you're a total fool.
He made money- you didn't.
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He made money- you didn't.
How do you know I haven't made money, and honestly, too?
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That Cell-tech---dextrose (sugar) with creatine, a few yrs before it came out, in order for me to sell a jug of creatine, to make it look full, I put sugar in it...needless to say, I never thought that it (sugar) would be a "transport system" for creatine.
And that Cell-tech would tell you to take 8 ounces of water---a whole lot more than 8 ounces would come out 3 hours later.
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How do you know I haven't made money, and honestly, too?
Maybe you have. But not his kind of money. You're slightly bitter. It's like what, the third time you've told this story here? I'm sure you've reproduced it in other boards, too. Not to mention real life.
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Maybe you have. But not his kind of money. You're slightly bitter. It's like what, the third time you've told this story here? I'm sure you've reproduced it in other boards, too. Not to mention real life.
Are there things between R. Gaspari and Fortress?
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"Invincibility"
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Do you think they put the words "I WANT" wider than Phil as a passive aggressive shot at Phil?
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I was there from the brand's VERY beginnings. Paul was the manager of the MMI store downstairs from where we produced the magazine, and he'd talk endlessly at lunch about doing what Bill Phillips did. He has zero formulation/science background.
He'd use my computer after hours to write up those first ads.
He had the labels printed before there was product ... which in the 11th hour he ordered from some random supplier.
(That is him in the first fat-to-ripped photos. He was using drugs before and simply stopped and ate Wendy's every day to get fat, which he magnified with cotton in his cheeks, pushed-out-gut, spritzer-bottle sweat, sad look on face ... Then he started working out again and using steroids and clen ... )
The crooks and flakes who have gone through that company's upper offices is staggering.
Give them a dime and you're a total fool.
Wasn't some of their stuff nothing but TANG powder? I heard some guys that knew Paul crack jokes about it but that was years ago so maybe I just fucking up the story with something else.
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Oh, yeah. ::)
Its owner and founder, Paul Gardiner, started the company on lies and zero product.
Good people? Maybe the underlings who haven't a clue what the company is founded upon or really understand the full-on horseshit of the ads.
There's NOTHING honourable about MuscleTech.
8) You sir are correct . Ripping kids off with a pile of bullshit is apparently considered good business for some . ::)
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I made a foolish mistake to buy some Muscletech supplements once ( Nano Vapor and some other bullishit) and I remember after a month of usage I had a check up and all my liver enzymes were elevated.
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Hydroressurectech XTend
150% more efficient, proven to bring corpses back to life
- as validated by a man in a white coat, spectacles and lots of shiny shit and vials with different colored liquids in background
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" Shit. I forgot my glasses in other lab coat. Anyway Jay, this is all the same crap with different labels, as you know... We'll send you 10 cases to same address, and you can sell it for half price on ebay.."
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Maybe you have. But not his kind of money. You're slightly bitter. It's like what, the third time you've told this story here? I'm sure you've reproduced it in other boards, too. Not to mention real life.
No, I haven't made near the amount he has, but I am of a character that wouldn't want to be wealthy if it meant the money was collected (not earned) from mostly-young males who have been lied to. It's shameful.
I know there are many who don't give a rat's ass about cheating others. You sound to be one of them.
Ethics and character are valued commodities in a world full of humans of low worth.
And bitter? No, but I am pissed that companies like MuscleTech have quickened the destruction of an industry in which I once worked. And damaged, emotionally and financially, so many good people.
Yes, I do tell my tale whenever the opportunity presents itself (this is the only bodybuilding board I engage on, though, just so you know). If I can inflict even a smidgen of damage on these scam companies, I am all for it.
You're a person who values collecting money above any considerations of ethics, character or honesty.
Justify it any way you want. You're a low-quality individual.
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" Shit. I forgot my glasses in other lab coat. Anyway Jay, this is all the same crap with different labels, as you know... We'll send you 10 cases to same address, and you can sell it for half price on ebay.."
QUACK,,I MEAN DOC .I'M WORRIED WILL IT CAUSE PALUMBOISM,,,,,
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you worked for MuscleTech?
Dock Loader? or Janitor???
Sponsored athlete. They sponsor a bunch of amatuers. They flew me up to Toronoto for my before and after pics. Got $500 worth of supps each month and my contest expenses (hotel, airfare, meals at show)
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Sponsored athlete. They sponsor a bunch of amatuers. They flew me up to Toronoto for my before and after pics. Got $500 worth of supps each month and my contest expenses (hotel, airfare, meals at show)
8)
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That Cell-tech---dextrose (sugar) with creatine, a few yrs before it came out, in order for me to sell a jug of creatine, to make it look full, I put sugar in it...needless to say, I never thought that it (sugar) would be a "transport system" for creatine.
And that Cell-tech would tell you to take 8 ounces of water---a whole lot more than 8 ounces would come out 3 hours later.
Taking creatine with simple sugars has been done for nearly two decades. Remember the days of EAS' Phosphagen HP?
A lot of people used to just take regular creatine with grape juice (about 60% of the sugar in grape juice is dextrose).
If I remember correctly, there was some study citing 5 grams of creatine with 93 grams of simple sugar being more effective than just taking 5 grams of creatine by itself.
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Forces Massive Muscle Growth Directly on your arms and chest ??? ???
IM SOLD? where do i put my Credit Card
::) ::)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/1-Testosterone/masstech.jpg)
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Sponsored athlete. They sponsor a bunch of amatuers. They flew me up to Toronoto for my before and after pics. Got $500 worth of supps each month and my contest expenses (hotel, airfare, meals at show)
THATS PRETTY COOL,,I MEAN SHOW EXPENSE IS BIG,,NOTHING WRONG OFFSEASON EATING BARS AND PROTEIN FREE WHY NOT,,,
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Actually they claim the feeling of invincibility.... :)
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"Invincibility"
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looks like phil made some solid gains on that supplement
its a pity its fruit punch flavour that will definately hamper the anabolic effect
they should have gone with fruits of the forest
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THATS PRETTY COOL,,I MEAN SHOW EXPENSE IS BIG,,NOTHING WRONG OFFSEASON EATING BARS AND PROTEIN FREE WHY NOT,,,
You cant go wrong with protein shakes and bars. Used the cell tech with slin and took the pre workout stuff. Basic and simple.
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Phil is as wide as a Can of Creatine
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Forces Massive Muscle Growth Directly on your arms and chest ??? ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/1-Testosterone/masstech.jpg)
One of HUNDREDS of examples of how low and worthless these people truly are.
I recall seeing Gardiner at the Arnie perhaps a dozen years ago and we spoke for a minute. I told him how crappy his ethics and products are, reminding him of all his rat ways in the beginning, and he, like a typical piece of shit greaseball, ignored everything I was saying, and he just kept on with his so-fake-it's-painful cheesedoodle smile.
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looking jacked their mars
what you running bro
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Forces Massive Muscle Growth Directly on your arms and chest ??? ???
IM SOLD? where do i put my Credit Card
::) ::)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/1-Testosterone/masstech.jpg)
Like most decent weight gainers (supercontentrated food), take it often enough, long enough, with a decent diet and training, and of course, you'll force gains on your chest and arms (and everywhere else).
It's called advertisement. Companies did it long before MuscleTech; they'll do it long after MuscleTech. I remember an ad that claimed, in the next 76 years or so, we'll be lifting electromagnet rings instead of dumbbells and barbells, training in floating gyms, and taking Sugar-Free BIG weight gainer.
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thats not me
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thats not me
so modest 8)
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How did the asian douche get invited to that party? ???
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How did the asian douche get invited to that party? ???
i always wonder that with these pics, couple of hot women with nerds wtf
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i always wonder that with these pics, couple of hot women with nerds wtf
he will be in the category gay best friend
no way is he tapping that ass
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You cant go wrong with protein shakes and bars. Used the cell tech with slin and took the pre workout stuff. Basic and simple.
NOT TO HARP ON IT ,,,WERE U IN THE ADS I REMEMBER SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS OTHER THAN PROS AND WHAT YR,,,ARE U STILL GOING TO COMPETE AGAIN?
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NOT TO HARP ON IT ,,,WERE U IN THE ADS I REMEMBER SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS OTHER THAN PROS AND WHAT YR,,,ARE U STILL GOING TO COMPETE AGAIN?
They didnt use me for the ads, but a few guys who were up there shooting with me were. You get $1000 for those pics too! This was back in March of 2009 before my show that June. The day after the show they fly you back up for the "after" pics. That building is the shit! Instead of pop machines, they have protein machines. Amazng food. Grilled chicken, rice, turkey.....
Im going to hit the 35 and over at the Masters Nationals next year.
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hot ass?
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No, I haven't made near the amount he has, but I am of a character that wouldn't want to be wealthy if it meant the money was collected (not earned) from mostly-young males who have been lied to. It's shameful.
I know there are many who don't give a rat's ass about cheating others. You sound to be one of them.
Ethics and character are valued commodities in a world full of humans of low worth.
And bitter? No, but I am pissed that companies like MuscleTech have quickened the destruction of an industry in which I once worked. And damaged, emotionally and financially, so many good people.
Yes, I do tell my tale whenever the opportunity presents itself (this is the only bodybuilding board I engage on, though, just so you know). If I can inflict even a smidgen of damage on these scam companies, I am all for it.
You're a person who values collecting money above any considerations of ethics, character or honesty.
Justify it any way you want. You're a low-quality individual.
"Low-quality" individual, LOL. What does that mean exactly?
I doubt Gardiner quickened the destruction of the industry as you put it. Your industry was rotten from the start- do you remember Weider Formula no7? The one with Arnold in the front? The one that could make you gain "1 pound of mass per day?" That was 1972 mate. Forty years ago. Was your industry less corrupt then? Doesn't a sizable portion of your industry cater to the homoerotic fascination with young virile male bodies? What do you make of that, "Fortress"?
You act as if separating a person from a small amount of money is a mortal sin. Newsflash: they would have spent on some other useless shit- people make money, they need to spend it someplace. Instead of the protein powder they could have a bought cigarettes for a couple of weeks, instead they got something that at least may act through the placebo effect and help maintain consistency in the gym, which is the main issue anyway.
What strict moral standards you have, o beacon of weightlifting morality, o paladin of bodybuilding truth! And how lonely it must be up there in your ivory tower :)
Raymondo, out!
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"Low-quality" individual, LOL. What does that mean exactly?
I doubt Gardiner quickened the destruction of the industry as you put it. Your industry was rotten from the start- do you remember Weider Formula no7? The one with Arnold in the front? The one that could make you gain "1 pound of mass per day?" That was 1972 mate. Forty years ago. Was your industry less corrupt then? Doesn't a sizable portion of your industry cater to the homoerotic fascination with young virile male bodies? What do you make of that, "Fortress"?
You act as if separating a person from a small amount of money is a mortal sin. Newsflash: they would have spent on some other useless shit- people make money, they need to spend it someplace. Instead of the protein powder they could have a bought cigarettes for a couple of weeks, instead they got something that at least may act through the placebo effect and help maintain consistency in the gym, which is the main issue anyway.
What strict moral standards you have, o beacon of weightlifting morality, o paladin of bodybuilding truth! And how lonely it must be up there in your ivory tower :)
Raymondo, out!
More example of your warped and inferior character.
Yes, I am better than you.
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More example of your warped and inferior character.
Yes, I am better than you.
If it makes you feel better :-*
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If it makes you feel better :-*
I have as much insight as anyone else here that's only going by Fortress' posts
What I've personally gathered from them, is that Bob Kennedy liked and lent the young upstart (then) Gardner a hand, by letting him advertise and market his new products in the magazine and the musclemag stores, and when he hit payday, instead of reciprocating, and showing gratitude for the extended helping hand, he proceeded to bite the arm off.
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hot ass?
Yes
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I have as much insight as anyone else here that's only going by Fortress' posts
What I've personally gathered from them, is that Bob Kennedy liked and lent the young upstart (then) Gardner a hand, by letting him advertise and market his new products in the magazine and the musclemag stores, and when he hit payday, instead of reciprocating, and showing gratitude for the extended helping hand, he proceeded to bite the arm off.
Pretty much the story, yeah.
Gardiner is a class-A piece of shit.
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Pretty much the story, yeah.
Gardiner is a class-A piece of shit.
Well, I've only heard good things about Bob Kennedy, and that's very unusual in bbing
Guy genuinenly cared for industry and its followers from what one hears/reads, and whilst a businessman, it wasn't all about the bottom-line
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They didnt use me for the ads, but a few guys who were up there shooting with me were. You get $1000 for those pics too! This was back in March of 2009 before my show that June. The day after the show they fly you back up for the "after" pics. That building is the shit! Instead of pop machines, they have protein machines. Amazng food. Grilled chicken, rice, turkey.....
Im going to hit the 35 and over at the Masters Nationals next year.
BMC, go for it bro!
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hot ass?
wtf? ...
only at getbig....
KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA!
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NOT TO HARP ON IT ,,,WERE U IN THE ADS I REMEMBER SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS OTHER THAN PROS AND WHAT YR,,,ARE U STILL GOING TO COMPETE AGAIN?
I had 3 friends who were in the ads. They were all self admitted steroid junkies. They'd submit an off season, off cycle photo as the before then their juiced up photo afterwards. Muscletech are the biggest fucking liars making claims that their product help this dude put on 30 pounds of muscle and lose 30 pounds of fat in only 3 months. It had nothing to do with the tren, clen, test, eq, gh, t3 ::)
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I had 3 friends who were in the ads. They were all self admitted steroid junkies. They'd submit an off season, off cycle photo as the before then their juiced up photo afterwards. Muscletech are the biggest fucking liars making claims that their product help this dude put on 30 pounds of muscle and lose 30 pounds of fat in only 3 months. It had nothing to do with the tren, clen, test, eq, gh, t3 ::)
EXACTLY
How some defend such actions IN ANY WAY blows my mind.
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EXACTLY
How some defend such actions IN ANY WAY blows my mind.
I didn't defend anything and don't start with the passive aggressive remarks, if you've got something to say, say it.
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With The Use of Muscle Tech huh ???
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I didn't defend anything and don't start with the passive aggressive remarks, if you've got something to say, say it.
Wasn't being passive aggressive, dummy. I made a comment that spoke to a larger population of people than just you. Quite the ego you've got.
And as far as saying TO YOU what I want to say, I already did, in case you've forgotten (in perhaps an effort to erase from your mind the stark reality of what kind of man you are, placed at your feet in words by yours truly).
You're out of your depth with me.
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Wasn't being passive aggressive, dummy. I made a comment that spoke to a larger population of people than just you. Quite the ego you've got.
And as far as saying TO YOU what I want to say, I already did, in case you've forgotten (in perhaps an effort to erase from your mind the stark reality of what kind of man you are, placed at your feet in words by yours truly).
You're out of your depth with me.
Haha, Fortress I feel sorry for you mate so I'm going to indulge you, you can think what you like of me. Somehow I can't bring myself to execute a surgical flame strike on you :)
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Oh, yeah. ::)
Its owner and founder, Paul Gardiner, started the company on lies and zero product.
Good people? Maybe the underlings who haven't a clue what the company is founded upon or really understand the full-on horseshit of the ads.
There's NOTHING honourable about MuscleTech.
agreed...they pioneered the 4 page lie...great tech-nique..if you get my drift
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THANK YOU!
Anyone older than 16 should remember their Creatine 6000 that would make you gain 6000% mass according to claims, their Acetabolan which was their pre-hormone and their ECA stack in the original Hydroxycut that made you lose 100 pounds of fat in 24 hours. They made the biggest bullshit claims then slowly their amazing products dissapeared as other bullshit products came out.
Mikecox saying a supp is a supp, well if that's true then why does MT continue to make their BS claims? They completely revamped their supps into a total waste of money trying to appeal to athletes and the mainstream person. Muscletech is completely snake oil now.
the only product they had that was ANY good was the original Hydroxycut..I once lost 30 lbs on that stuff..it was awesome...no appetite.....fat melted off...
thats why the gov't cracked down on the ECA stack.....because IT ACTUALLY WORKED.......if muscle-tech products actually did all the things they say they will, the gov't would have shut down the entire operation
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Does Cell Tech work as good as Tren? Of course not. But I was getting free shit for two years and got my contest shit paid for. The people I came in contact with were great!
Im not a big supp guy to begin with but i still use their protein powder and pre workout shit.
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Does Cell Tech work as good as Tren? Of course not. But I was getting free shit for two years and got my contest shit paid for. The people I came in contact with were great!
Im not a big supp guy to begin with but i still use their protein powder and pre workout shit.
you forgot the emphasis on "shit"
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the only product they had that was ANY good was the original Hydroxycut..I once lost 30 lbs on that stuff..it was awesome...no appetite.....fat melted off...
thats why the gov't cracked down on the ECA stack.....because IT ACTUALLY WORKED.......if muscle-tech products actually did all the things they say they will, the gov't would have shut down the entire operation
Then why did you buy 14 pounds of Cell-Tech and tell people about it, on this very forum?
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Then why did you buy 14 pounds of Cell-Tech and tell people about it, on this very forum?
just trying it out to see if it did anything...it didn't ::)
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just trying it out to see if it did anything...it didn't ::)
Of course not, when you "eat like a bird".
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I have as much insight as anyone else here that's only going by Fortress' posts
What I've personally gathered from them, is that Bob Kennedy liked and lent the young upstart (then) Gardner a hand, by letting him advertise and market his new products in the magazine and the musclemag stores, and when he hit payday, instead of reciprocating, and showing gratitude for the extended helping hand, he proceeded to bite the arm off.
The problem with this is - MMI used to voice disdain against this type of advertising - Zulak used to slam it in his "Truth" articles and then turned around and pushed this junk any chance he could get and I have an interview with Bob also saying these companies are all charlatans .
This is no way a slight at Mr Kennedy who I think is still the most honorable person in this industry, even in his passing - but they sold the fuck out for $$$
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The problem with this is - MMI used to voice disdain against this type of advertising - Zulak used to slam it in his "Truth" articles and then turned around and pushed this junk any chance he could get and I have an interview with Bob also saying these companies are all charlatans .
This is no way a slight at Mr Kennedy who I think is still the most honorable person in this industry, even in his passing - but they sold the fuck out for $$$
It was obvious for all to see MT eventually "owned" the mag, especially with the Zulak uncensored Q&A, where every answer was take a muscletech supplement. It took away from integrity of MMI, and made it just like the rest.
Also kovacs getting more exposure than any other bber ever, along with other MT advertorials
My point, is Kennedy wouldve probaly wished to avoid that, but gardiner had control of cash, didn't mind destroying the last good magazine around
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It was obvious for all to see MT eventually "owned" the mag, especially with the Zulak uncensored Q&A, where every answer was take a muscletech supplement. It took away from integrity of MMI, and made it just like the rest.
Also kovacs getting more exposure than any other bber ever, along with other MT advertorials
My point, is Kennedy wouldve probaly wished to avoid that, but gardiner had control of cash, didn't mind destroying the last good magazine around
X2
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Muscletech products are overpriced but i did use them when i was natural and got good results.