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Title: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: ukjeff on August 24, 2012, 01:05:49 PM
..as dull as dishwater?

Having listened to him ramble on a few times on various videos I have come to the conclusion he's either dumb or a good actor.
His line about "What is "it" that makes you put 800lbs on your back and squat to the floor?"
He spends five minutes trying to establish what "it" is, unsuccessfully I may add.
Its pretty straight forward Kai, it's the same thing that makes wrestlers dive through glass tubes and severe arteries.

Stupidity.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: cephissus on August 24, 2012, 01:10:00 PM
he's insufferable.  someone who can't accept the fact that he's just a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Archer77 on August 24, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
..as dull as dishwater?

Having listened to him ramble on a few times on various videos I have come to the conclusion he's either dumb or a good actor.
His line about "What is "it" that makes you put 800lbs on your back and squat to the floor?"
He spends five minutes trying to establish what "it" is, unsuccessfully I may add.
Its pretty straight forward Kai, it's the same thing that makes wrestlers dive through glass tubes and severe arteries.

Stupidity.

 The answer is steroids, GH and insulin.  
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: bradistani on August 24, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
tart as a grapefruit
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Post by: bigmikecox on August 24, 2012, 01:21:10 PM
Love Kai. It seems bbers are either intimidated or too dumb to realize that there is a MENTAL side to bbing. Listening to guys just talk about food and reps gets old. Kai is the most entertaining bber but b/c he is "different" people dont know how to take him.
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Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 24, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
Did someone say Kai?
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Post by: Hulkotron on August 24, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
Gay as the day is long.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: bradistani on August 24, 2012, 01:33:24 PM
https://rapidshare.com/files/2829456674/Musclehunks_-_Kai_Greene_xvid.avi
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: ENZO on August 24, 2012, 01:36:13 PM
He was very successful at establishing his point. The work he puts in is all worth it once he reaches his glory on that stage. That's his truth, his escape from problems in life, his happiness.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: ENZO on August 24, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
really?
Care to share his explanation of what "it" is?

Read the portion of my post that you just cropped out. Thats what "it" is.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: wild willie on August 24, 2012, 01:53:48 PM
..as dull as dishwater?

Having listened to him ramble on a few times on various videos I have come to the conclusion he's either dumb or a good actor.
His line about "What is "it" that makes you put 800lbs on your back and squat to the floor?"
He spends five minutes trying to establish what "it" is, unsuccessfully I may add.
Its pretty straight forward Kai, it's the same thing that makes wrestlers dive through glass tubes and severe arteries.

Stupidity.
another negative poster at getbig!
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: bradistani on August 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
(http://i.imgbox.com/aam8rKOY.gif)
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: The_Punisher on August 24, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
he's over exagerrating like some other bodybuilder does........I'm sure Kai holds a PH.D in kinesiology
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Post by: arce1988 on August 24, 2012, 04:16:10 PM
  GAY
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Mr. Magoo on August 24, 2012, 07:25:56 PM
he's insufferable.  someone who can't accept the fact that he's just a bodybuilder.

this
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
mental side?
Yes, its straight forward, train eat rest grow, its not rocket science.
Some are better at it than others I grant you but essentially its the same.
Kai is no different than the rest, he is either too dumb to realise he isn't special or acting, take your pick.
He's an artist. And like many artists, he trys to peek beyond or beneath the mundane layers of what he does or everyday life. Symbolism within bbing.
Whatever man's craft is, if he is truly into it, he will take it over the top...Kai is bbing, and bbing is Kai. And he seeks to convey that in different mediums---be it thru posing, art, or his verbal musings.

It's funny how people complain that bbers have no personality, then when there is one, they complain that he has a personality. Maybe it's not Kai that is stupid.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Tony Doherty on August 24, 2012, 11:01:50 PM
He's an artist. And like many artists, he trys to peek beyond or beneath the mundane layers of what he does or everyday life. Symbolism within bbing.
Whatever man's craft is, if he is truly into it, he will take it over the top...Kai is bbing, and bbing is Kai. And he seeks to convey that in different mediums---be it thru posing, art, or his verbal musings.

It's funny how people complain that bbers have no personality, then when there is one, they complain that he has a personality. Maybe it's not Kai that is stupid.

Well said Parker! 

He does say what it is that makes you put 800lbs on your back and squat. I have spent hours talking to him about it. In a word it is "rage"
Most of you would not get it.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: OTHstrong on August 24, 2012, 11:07:52 PM
He's an artist. And like many artists, he trys to peek beyond or beneath the mundane layers of what he does or everyday life. Symbolism within bbing.
Whatever man's craft is, if he is truly into it, he will take it over the top...Kai is bbing, and bbing is Kai. And he seeks to convey that in different mediums---be it thru posing, art, or his verbal musings.

It's funny how people complain that bbers have no personality, then when there is one, they complain that he has a personality. Maybe it's not Kai that is stupid.
QFT... good post Parker, Kai is spot on at what he says, a combination of Tony Robbins and Deepok Chopra  ;D , OK maybe not that deep   :D...

...but nevertheless he has a very strong mentality. Why don't people understand him? Simply cause only people who have experience and have pushed their body that far know what kind of a mentality it takes. So I hate to be blunt but the reality is the ones that think he is rambling, think so cause their brains are not at his level.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: BikiniSlut on August 24, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
He tries soooo hard to come across philosophical but he sounds retarded.  :(
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: OTHstrong on August 24, 2012, 11:36:16 PM
He tries soooo hard to come across philosophical but he sounds retarded.  :(
Again read the last 3 posts, if you don't get it, it is because your brain is slower then his or you simply can't relate to his experiences. No beef just calling it how I see it, he makes perfect sense to us.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: SF1900 on August 24, 2012, 11:42:39 PM
id like to hear his philosophy on citrus fruits. sorry just had to say it. i know, i know, its old  :D
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Ropo on August 25, 2012, 01:35:52 AM
..as dull as dishwater?

Having listened to him ramble on a few times on various videos I have come to the conclusion he's either dumb or a good actor.
His line about "What is "it" that makes you put 800lbs on your back and squat to the floor?"
He spends five minutes trying to establish what "it" is, unsuccessfully I may add.
Its pretty straight forward Kai, it's the same thing that makes wrestlers dive through glass tubes and severe arteries.

Stupidity.

So, he talks using words and expressions which you can't comprehend, so he must be stupid? OK. Are you sure that it can't be another way around? I have seen lot of material about him, many interviews etc. and it seem to me that among the bodybuilders he rank above the average what comes to intelligence. You see, fucking grapefruits doesn't make him dumb, it makes him only weird.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: OTHstrong on August 25, 2012, 02:02:56 AM
So, he talks using words and expressions which you can't comprehend, so he must be stupid? OK. Are you sure that it can't be another way around? I have seen lot of material about him, many interviews etc. and it seem to me that among the bodybuilders he rank above the average what comes to intelligence. You see, fucking grapefruits doesn't make him dumb, it makes him only weird.
This
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: bebop396 on August 25, 2012, 03:05:03 AM
He sounds like the loneliest man in the world...Which describes an artist pretty well...

All Ronnie has to say is, YEAH BUDDY!!!!!!! AINT NUTTIN BUT A PEANUT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: wes on August 25, 2012, 04:12:23 AM
I like Kai....he`s cool!
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Post by: Papper on August 25, 2012, 05:08:55 AM
I like Kai....he`s cool!

Great serratus developement in your profile picture  :o
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Archer77 on August 25, 2012, 08:03:03 AM
So, he talks using words and expressions which you can't comprehend, so he must be stupid? OK. Are you sure that it can't be another way around? I have seen lot of material about him, many interviews etc. and it seem to me that among the bodybuilders he rank above the average what comes to intelligence. You see, fucking grapefruits doesn't make him dumb, it makes him only weird.


I think the point was that Kai is using words and expressions Kai doesn't understand himself in an attempt to sound deep and intelligent.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Metabolic on August 25, 2012, 08:59:40 AM

I think the point was that Kai is using words and expressions Kai doesn't understand himself in an attempt to sound deep and intelligent.

This is it.

I am sickened by his pseudo intellectual rhetoric, devoid of any substantial or real meaning.  If he is happy, good for him, he can do whatever he wants, but dont try to turn this around by saying that becauee we think he is ultimately a faker we are the dumb ones, his speech is classical sophomore-level humanist student.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Metabolic on August 25, 2012, 09:10:11 AM
Most importantly, he is so into "finding the truth, the meaning, being real", et fuckng cetera yet his whole lifstyle and even his life is a lie.

"A day in the life" shows NOTHING of what his regular days are except MAYBE eating, he lies to everyone, as do all other bbers, by the way.
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Post by: PJim on August 25, 2012, 09:11:05 AM
I can never make my mind up about him, although I do think that his heart is in the right place to be honest.
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Post by: wild willie on August 25, 2012, 09:12:35 AM
Negative, not really, Im just commenting on what I see thats all, would you suggest people just posted threads about how great they think people are?
The problem is this.....you have very few posts and a majority of them are extremely negative....that's ok though.....you'll fit in just fine here with most of the blokes.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: wild willie on August 25, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
"Kai, what did you have for breakfast?"
Thats a very good question, firstly we must look at the word breakfast and ask "what does it really mean, I mean REALLY mean?", is it the first meal after breaking my fast of the previous nights slumber or is there more to it, may be we will never know the answer to that question, on the other hand, .....hey...where are you going, don't you want the answer?
STFU.....Who pissed in your cereal?
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: SF1900 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:28 AM
"Kai, what did you have for breakfast?"
Thats a very good question, firstly we must look at the word breakfast and ask "what does it really mean, I mean REALLY mean?", is it the first meal after breaking my fast of the previous nights slumber or is there more to it, may be we will never know the answer to that question, on the other hand, .....hey...where are you going, don't you want the answer?

Don't get angry at WW. He has this weird attachment to bodybuilders. Its almost scary :/

Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: _bruce_ on August 25, 2012, 09:19:59 AM
Did someone say Kai?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Archer77 on August 25, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
This is it.

I am sickened by his pseudo intellectual rhetoric, devoid of any substantial or real meaning.  If he is happy, good for him, he can do whatever he wants, but dont try to turn this around by saying that becauee we think he is ultimately a faker we are the dumb ones, his speech is classical sophomore-level humanist student.


He's trying to make bodybuilding into something more complicated than what it is, pure narcissism. Narcissism isn't even necessarily a bad thing. 
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 25, 2012, 10:23:03 AM
I believe Kai is well-spoken. Maybe he is a bit too emotional at times. Like the time he cried after losing a show.
To me, his emotions are a bit out of hand; not his speech and arguments.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: mik1111 on August 25, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
the dude can't speak well.
he has a decen vocabulary for a bb and seems to have a genuine interest in whatever he says, but shit, it comes out awful.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: SF1900 on August 25, 2012, 10:32:05 AM
The problem is this.....you have very few posts and a majority of them are extremely negative....that's ok though.....you'll fit in just fine here with most of the blokes.

stfu...I have close to 8000 posts and you still become upset when I say something negative, so it has nothing to do with his post count.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Schnauzer on August 25, 2012, 10:46:29 AM
Yes, Kai is a regular Grapefruit Gandhi ::)
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Archer77 on August 25, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
Yes, Kai is a regular Grapefruit Gandhi ::)

Confruitcius?
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Post by: BikiniSlut on August 25, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
Anybody can use big words. The point is Kai has no idea what he's saying. Even his ex Dayana says he's out to lunch and is just trying to give the bodybuilding community the impression that he is an 'artistic soul'.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: wild willie on August 25, 2012, 01:03:48 PM
stfu...I have close to 8000 posts and you still become upset when I say something negative, so it has nothing to do with his post count.
Please defend him....he is just like you.....only he has fewer posts.....misery loves company.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 25, 2012, 01:13:49 PM
On the one hand, Kai Greene is a top professional bodybuilder, possesses a dynamic combination of successful bodybuilding traits, and, without a doubt, has the potential to win the Mr. Olympia title. Very few in the industry can lay claim to even one aspect of his "game" and talent (whether it be his motivation, his discipline, his genetics, his attention to the craft and technique |techne| of physique presentation, etc.). Moreover, he's a colorful character and unique presence on the stage. He also comes across as a genuine guy; someone who's had to overcome challenging obstacles, has learned humility, and can relate with others interested in achieving their dreams. We see this side of Kai in all those videos that aim to tap into the spirit of self-improvement. With regard to all the above, it's easy to see why Kai has many fans, and deservedly so. It's hard to find fault with his positive message, and all I can say is, "Well done, and keep paying it forward!"
     However, in the videos that I've seen, I would not call Kai an articulate, intelligent, or particularly insightful man. This is no personal knock, I'm basing my judgment against people I've known with a keen interest in art and aesthetics. I might be wrong, but what I find interesting about Kai's approach is that he seems to want to project a vision of his body as trangressing boundaries of normalcy, but in a way that ultimately makes sense and gains acceptance. In this way, he seems almost Nietzschean, i.e., how his theory of tragic art explains what can be spiritually regained in uniting the contrasting forces of the Apollonian (e.g., the well-balanced, responsible, symmetrical, sober, and orderly) with the Dionysian (e.g., the unbalanced, reckless, asymmetrical, intoxicated, and disorderly). Subsequently, Kai might be trying to articulate a vision of bodybuilding/art that sheds light on the tragic price one has to pay, or the sacrifices one has to make, in uniting rationality and madness to create something "beautiful" or special. He also seems to have a vision of bodybuilding/art that is self-transforming AND self-affirming, i.e., in the process of "making" oneself, one is simultaneously "affirming" who and what one is: in Kai's case, an elite professional bodybuilder/artist. If I'm right about any of this, I'd consider the expression of these thoughts as something deep and meaningful.  
    
     Still, on the other hand, he had violent sexual congress with an abducted grapefruit, and shtupped it by tearing into its pink flesh like a group of bonobos on ecstasy. (And let dirty schmoes suck on his penis at homo strip shows). That articulates volumes, too. ;D
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Post by: viking1 on August 25, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
Confruitcius?

Confruitcius say, don't bang the whole citrus, just piece by piece.

Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Anybody can use big words. The point is Kai has no idea what he's saying. Even his ex Dayana says he's out to lunch and is just trying to give the bodybuilding community the impression that he is an 'artistic soul'.
And you believe his ex? A woman who was attractive and then takes male hormones and made herself into a creature from another realm? The same woman whose womanly bits  from certain angles, resembles a worn out wallet?

Who is really out to lunch. Ok we get it, Kai is eclectic for a bber, unquestionably unique. He knows what he talking about and the vocabulary and verbage that he uses.

People complained that Arnold had an accent and that he was a cocky a-hole, yet in the same breath say that he has "charisma". People complained that Dorian didn't speak much, yet lauded him for meting his physique do the talking. People complained that Shawn Ray talked too much and complained about the judges, yet called him intelligent and said that he stood his ground and criticized the judges.
People complained about Kevin Levrone's lack of focus, yet applauded him for having a band and other interests outside of bbing---saying that it showed that bbers can be multifaceted individuals

all these example show one thing---you can't please everybody. If you are yourself, someone will criticize you, if you are assertive, people will say you are an a-hole. If you are a wordsmiths, people will say that you are showing off.
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Post by: Archer77 on August 25, 2012, 02:44:01 PM
On the flip side, might a woman as dysfunctional as that more easily recognize one of a similar disposition.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: ukjeff on August 25, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Quote
all these example show one thing---you can't please everybody. If you are yourself, someone will criticize you, if you are assertive, people will say you are an a-hole. If you are a wordsmiths, people will say that you are showing off.

I dont remember anything negative being said about this guys outlook to bodybuilding.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4vFi6N81XPg/Td3v8tSjerI/AAAAAAAATnc/Xxr1GcjbfxY/s1600/BParis1033.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: cephissus on August 25, 2012, 02:47:56 PM
On the one hand, Kai Greene is a top professional bodybuilder, possesses a dynamic combination of successful bodybuilding traits, and, without a doubt, has the potential to win the Mr. Olympia title. Very few in the industry can lay claim to even one aspect of his "game" and talent (whether it be his motivation, his discipline, his genetics, his attention to the craft and technique |techne| of physique presentation, etc.). Moreover, he's a colorful character and unique presence on the stage. He also comes across as a genuine guy; someone who's had to overcome challenging obstacles, has learned humility, and can relate with others interested in achieving their dreams. We see this side of Kai in all those videos that aim to tap into the spirit of self-improvement. With regard to all the above, it's easy to see why Kai has many fans, and deservedly so. It's hard to find fault with his positive message, and all I can say is, "Well done, and keep paying it forward!"
     However, in the few videos that I've seen, I would not call Kai an articulate, intelligent, or particularly insightful man. This is no personal knock, I'm basing my judgment against people I've known with a keen interest in art and aesthetics. I might be wrong, but what I find interesting about Kai's approach is that he seems to want to project a vision of his body as trangressing boundaries of normalcy, but in a way that ultimately makes sense and gains acceptance and admiration. In this way, he seems almost Nietzschean, i.e., how his theory of tragic art explains what can be spiritually regained in uniting the contrasting forces of the Apollonian (e.g., the well-balanced, responsible, symmetrical, sober, and orderly) with the Dionysian (e.g., the unbalanced, reckless, asymmetrical, intoxicated, and disorderly). Subsequently, Kai might be trying to articulate a vision of bodybuilding/art that sheds light on the tragic price one has to pay, or the sacrifices one has to make, in uniting rationality and madness to create something "beautiful" or special. He also seems to have a vision of bodybuilding/art that is self-transforming AND self-affirming, i.e., in the process of "making" oneself, one is simultaneously "affirming" who and what one is: in Kai's case, an elite professional bodybuilder/artist. If I'm right about any of this, then I'd consider the expression of these thoughts as something deep and meaningful.  
    
     Still, on the other hand, he had violent sexual congress with an abducted grapefruit, and shtupped it like a group of bonobos on E tearing into its pink, bitter flesh. That articulates volumes, too. ;D

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Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: falco on August 25, 2012, 04:33:42 PM
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/FilipeFalcao/38a6af47.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: falco on August 25, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
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Post by: falco on August 25, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
?  This is not Kai Greene ???...
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Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Ropo on August 25, 2012, 11:30:08 PM

I think the point was that Kai is using words and expressions Kai doesn't understand himself in an attempt to sound deep and intelligent.

When I look at him, it seem to me that he has to have some knowledge about bodybuilding, because he is one of the top pro's at the time. He isn't there by accident, it is outcome from long and hard work and when he speaks about it, what he say makes sense. How about you, how do you rank among bodybuilding critics, what is your situation measured by fame and fortune? You live at the front of the computer and even eat your meals there, so you must be real genius?   ;D
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: SF1900 on August 25, 2012, 11:35:11 PM
Please defend him....he is just like you.....only he has fewer posts.....misery loves company.

I am not defending, just saying it has nothing to do with his post count.

He is free to say anything he wishes.
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: WillGrant on August 25, 2012, 11:43:18 PM
And you believe his ex? A woman who was attractive and then takes male hormones and made herself into a creature from another realm? The same woman whose womanly bits  from certain angles, resembles a worn out wallet?

Who is really out to lunch. Ok we get it, Kai is eclectic for a bber, unquestionably unique. He knows what he talking about and the vocabulary and verbage that he uses.

People complained that Arnold had an accent and that he was a cocky a-hole, yet in the same breath say that he has "charisma". People complained that Dorian didn't speak much, yet lauded him for meting his physique do the talking. People complained that Shawn Ray talked too much and complained about the judges, yet called him intelligent and said that he stood his ground and criticized the judges.
People complained about Kevin Levrone's lack of focus, yet applauded him for having a band and other interests outside of bbing---saying that it showed that bbers can be multifaceted individuals

all these example show one thing---you can't please everybody. If you are yourself, someone will criticize you, if you are assertive, people will say you are an a-hole. If you are a wordsmiths, people will say that you are showing off.
Haha  ;D
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 26, 2012, 12:10:09 AM
Pompelmoes
Title: Re: Kai Greene, deep and meaningful or......
Post by: Archer77 on August 26, 2012, 04:35:38 AM
When I look at him, it seem to me that he has to have some knowledge about bodybuilding, because he is one of the top pro's at the time. He isn't there by accident, it is outcome from long and hard work and when he speaks about it, what he say makes sense. How about you, how do you rank among bodybuilding critics, what is your situation measured by fame and fortune? You live at the front of the computer and even eat your meals there, so you must be real genius?   ;D

This is funny to me simply for the fact that you are clearly not a native English speaker.