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Title: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Butterbean on August 26, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
Other than 333386, I see he has already seen it and read a review he posted where the writer believes that people that already plan to vote for Obama will likely not go see it.

Wondered if that was true for those on this board. 

Anyone else planning to go? 

Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2012, 01:27:05 PM
Other than 333386, I see he has already seen it and read a review he posted where the writer believes that people that already plan to vote for Obama will likely not go see it.

Wondered if that was true for those on this board. 

Anyone else planning to go? 




Its sort of a watered down version of his book - Roots of Obama's Rage, which was a very good book. 

The movie is very neutral and just presents facts and asks questions.  Its not negative or attacking in any way. 

You will ask yourself walking out - WTF motivates this guy in the WH because it ertainly is not anything connected to the American experience or history. 
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 26, 2012, 02:20:13 PM
Wow it takes you how many 'presidential candidacies' to realize that these people are ALL garbage?

Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: JBGRAY on August 26, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
  Our Republic can survive a George W. Bush or a Barack Obama.  Our Republic cannot survive the people that come out and vote for them.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Straw Man on August 26, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
  Our Republic can survive a George W. Bush or a Barack Obama.  Our Republic cannot survive the people that come out and vote for them.

whatever you say comrade
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 27, 2012, 02:33:39 AM
I'm going to see it.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
Here's What 'Obama's America'—The Doc That Has Conservative America Abuzz—Is All About
Aly Weisman|24 minutes ago|24|



 
This anti-Obama film is the top-grossing documentary of the year.




Conservative filmmakers Dinesh D’Souza and John Sullivan's anti-President Obama documentary "2016: Obama's America" has grossed over $9 million at the box office since its limited release last month—making it the most lucrative documentary of 2012 and the sixth most successful political doc of all time, reports The Hollywood Reporter.
 
After being heavily promoted on talk radio and distributed by Rocky Mountain Pictures, the nationwide expansion of "Obama's America" from 169 to 1,091 screens, was craftily timed to coincide with the Republican National Convention—which was set to commence today before tropical storm Isaac made an unexpected appearance.
 
But the storm isn't slowing down the doc's surprising success at the box office, with it just beating Weinstein's "Bully," which has earned $3.5 million thus far, to become the top-grossing documentary of the year.
 
So what's all the fuss about?
 
"Obama's America," which is based on conservative author Dinesch D'Souza's book "The Roots of Obama's Rage" and challenges the president's record, explores what the nation will be like should President Obama get re-elected.
 
The film even includes an interview with the president's half brother, George Obama.
 
Produced for a reported $2.1 million, "Obama's America" "earned $6.2 million over the past three days for a per-screen average of $5,940—the best of any film in wide release, including the No. 1 film, 'Expendables 2,'" according to The Wrap.
 
It is also now the top conservative documentary of all time, beating out 2008's education/intelligent design doc "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," which took in $7.7 million.
 
The tagline for "Obama's America" is "Love Him. Hate Him. You Don't Know Him." Decide how you feel about Him and the film below.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-obamas-americathe-doc-that-has-conservative-america-abuzzis-all-about-2012-8#ixzz24mVLHb8l

Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
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Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
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Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
The most important line from the movie is that Obama realized early on that many people project their own desires, concerns, narratives, and psycholigical conditioning on to him and will help and advance him mindlessly and advance him without having to do or give nothing in return whatsoever and that said reality can be used to advance his radical agenda without him having to be honest about it. 
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
Love Him or Hate Him, You Don’t Know Him: Obama’s America—2016


http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/love-him-or-hate-him-you-dont-know-him-obamas-america-2016


 Daniel J. Kelley 27 August 2012 4 Comments


Years ago, I recall discussing politics in an abstract way with the adult daughter of a small business owner who was also something of an ardent leftist. In an effort to be polite, I was doing my best to be noncommittal and vague throughout the entire conversation. The woman was proudly describing how her parents, based in New York City, always supported Norman Thomas, the perennial Socialist Party presidential candidate. The absurd irony of this situation was compounded by the fact that the woman was using a scissors and cutting her coupon bonds which had matured and were ready for redemption throughout this conversation in which she condemned and criticized capitalism.



The vanguard of the proletariat always seems content live a life of luxury and privilege while claiming to be liberating the unwashed masses. Like Obama on the golf course, these power elites are exempt from the policies which they seek to impose upon all others. I suspect that this is why many of the untalented actors and entertainment industry producers so readily support liberal politicians. It allows them to feel good about themselves while they never have to actually experience the results of the policies that they so vocally support. Their wealth insulates them from the pain that their politics inflicts upon the working class.

I attended a recent screening of the surprise box office hit “Obama’s America: 2016.” The documentary is narrated by Dinesh D’Souza and based upon two of his most recent books, including “The Roots of Obama’s Rage.” D’Souza’s thesis is that Obama embraced his father’s anti-colonial legacy and seeks to transform America into a second or third class nation as a form of retribution for America’s past cultural and political imperialism.

Obama is a proponent of failed economic policies that have left much of the Third World mired in poverty. Rather than acknowledging that centralized economic planning is a failure, Obama faults America’s industrial might as the cause of economic malaise that has crippled much of Africa. The answer, therefore, is not to abandon the discredited economic policies, but to disable America so as to level the playing field. Once America is bankrupt, Kenyan economic programs are bound to succeed!

As someone who follows politics and current events closely, I thought that I was better informed about Barack Obama’s radicalism than most people. Nevertheless, the new documentary film exposed me to much more information than I had previously been aware of. Obama is not as bad as I thought. Arguably, he is worse, much worse. If you still subscribe to American exceptionalism or believe in American ideals, you need to see this movie with an undecided voter who is persuadable.

In 2008, I was initially disturbed by Obama’s bizarre hero worship of his absentee Kenyan father which sometimes bordered upon pagan idolatry. During the same 2008 campaign, by virtue of reading British newspaper articles, I was aware of the fact that Obama’s father was less of an outstanding academic and renowned economist and more of a violent alcoholic and bigamist. He was also a Marxist who believed that a tax rate of one hundred percent could be justifiable.

Equally as chilling are the backgrounds of Obama’s leftist mother and his maternal grandparents. Obama is truly a “Red Diaper Baby.” Scarier still is association with Frank Marshall Davis, a card carrying member of the Communist Party, selected by Obama’s grandparents to serve as Obama’s mentor and surrogate father figure.

For all of the unjustified acclaim that Obama has received for attending law school at Harvard University, it is worth noting that he spent a considerable amount of time taking elective classes in Critical Legal Studies while neglecting to master the core curriculum. If his transcripts are ever located, it would be enlightening to see how Obama fared in Contracts, Constitutional Law, Property and Torts in comparison to radical chic indoctrination courses. At Columbia and Harvard Universities, Obama sought out the most extremist members of the faculty as his advisors, including virulent Anti-Semites vociferously opposed to the existence of the State of Israel. Not surprisingly, these same people view America with contempt.

To advance the industrialization of the Third World, Obama is willing to enforce punishing taxes and draconian energy policies upon American consumers and industries to drive up the price of gasoline and oil in the United States. The Keystone Pipeline will not be built during an Obama Administration, despite the obvious benefits that it would present to Americans in terms of lower fuel costs and increased employment opportunities, while Obama funds oil exploration that will benefit foreign countries.

If you consider yourself to be a regular Democrat, you also need to oppose Obama’s reelection in November. The incumbent may have found it expedient to masquerade as a Progressive member of the Democratic Party for electoral purposes, but he is not at all a traditional Democrat such as Jefferson, Kennedy or Truman. He is a radical ideologue. As was demonstrated in the healthcare controversy, he is indifferent to the survival of the Democratic Party as a viable political force, provided that his agenda is enacted into law. Dozens and dozens of newly elected Republicans are now serving in the US Congress solely as the result of a reaction to Obama’s policies.

Exiting the crowded theater, one patron described the film as “sobering.” Indeed. Even if Obama is rejected at the polls in November, America is in for a big hangover as the aftermath of his orgy of drunken spending which was intended to load America with an unmanageable debt. To the extent that D’Souza has exposed Obama for who he truly is, he deserves to be praised. Unfortunately, I doubt that the Nobel Prize Committee will be calling D’Souza anytime soon.

**
 Daniel J. Kelley is a regular contributor to “The Chicago Daily Observer.”
 image The March King, John Philip D’Souza
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 27, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
3333, just curious.  Is there one single thing in this movie that you have not already posted about here?  Not an attack, I'm just curious if I should watch it or if it will be a review of what you've already posted here.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Gregzs on August 27, 2012, 04:35:45 PM
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
3333, just curious.  Is there one single thing in this movie that you have not already posted about here?  Not an attack, I'm just curious if I should watch it or if it will be a review of what you've already posted here.

No.   But there are a few interviews that were revealing.   Its a good presentation, but i have posted everything here before.   

The most crucial thing I walked away with is that nothing obama does is by accident and he is well aware of how people come to support him blindly and how he uses that to advance his agenda and allows people to project their dreams and beliefs on him and advance him without any efforts on his own and without him having ever to reveal his true intentions. 

Think about that for a moment and how a person 2 years from the Illinois State Senate w no record whatsoever could waltz so easily into the presidency. 

He is a the cult messiah for many people and he knows it and uses that to advance his agenda that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with helping this country or the citizens. 
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 27, 2012, 05:09:57 PM
No.   But there are a few interviews that were revealing.   Its a good presentation, but i have posted everything here before.   

The most crucial thing I walked away with is that nothing obama does is by accident and he is well aware of how people come to support him blindly and how he uses that to advance his agenda and allows people to project their dreams and beliefs on him and advance him without any efforts on his own and without him having ever to reveal his true intentions. 

Think about that for a moment and how a person 2 years from the Illinois State Senate w no record whatsoever could waltz so easily into the presidency. 

He is a the cult messiah for many people and he knows it and uses that to advance his agenda that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with helping this country or the citizens. 
Thanks. 
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Thanks. 

I know many not believe this, but the ones I truly feel the worst for are black Americans who put so much loyalty, faith, pride, in him thinking he cares about them and is of a common experience.   

After watching that movie - it's so plainly obvious he does not give a rats ass ABout blacks but knows how to manipulate them to help him advance his agenda. 
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 07:28:05 PM
I just saw 2016. It was pretty good, I recommend it for everyone interested in this election. That said, Dinesh D'souza makes a few leaps of logic in a few areas, but overall it was a good documentary movie.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
I just saw 2016. It was pretty good, I recommend it for everyone interested in this election. That said, Dinesh D'souza makes a few leaps of logic in a few areas, but overall it was a good documentary movie.

The book was way better IMHO and I wish he took the movie to 2 - 2:30 hours as there was tons and tons more things Obama has done that would have bolstered theory.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: howardroark on August 27, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
The book was way better IMHO and I wish he took the movie to 2 - 2:30 hours as there was tons and tons more things Obama has done that would have bolstered theory.

I would've much preferred more evidence instead of D'souza's advocacy for Zionism...
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
I would've much preferred more evidence instead of D'souza's advocacy for Zionism...

the book was far more detailed but I think his overall premise is as sound as any other to describe the motivation behind why obama does what he does.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 28, 2012, 07:48:02 PM

LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - "2016: Obama's America," the right-wing documentary that has rocked the box office with its challenge to the president's record, will expand to about 1,800 theaters on Friday, Rocky Mountain Pictures told TheWrap Monday night.

That's up from the 1,091 theaters it played in over the weekend, when it took in $6.2 million between Friday and Sunday for a per-screen average of $5,940 - the best of any film in wide release. It added another $1.2 million at the box office Monday.

Produced for roughly $2.1 million, the film - with its catchphrase, "Love Him. Hate Him. You Don't Know Him" - has made $10.3 million since its release seven weeks ago and has surpassed "Bully" as the year's top-earning documentary.

The expansion will surely benefit from the buzz surrounding the ongoing Republican National Convention. Part of it will target the Heartland, a primary focus of the long-term rollout strategy according to MJM Entertainment's Mark Joseph, who is handling the film's marketing with co-director John Sullivan.

Theaters also will be added in New York, Portland, Los Angeles, Boston, Austin, Tex., and San Francisco. Joseph was still analyzing Monday's box-office numbers and said the expansion count remained fluid.

Based on conservative author Dinesh D'Souza's book, "The Roots of Obama's Rage," the documentary purports to show what the nation will be like should President Obama be re-elected, and includes an interview with the president's half brother, George Obama.

Co-directors Sullivan and D'Souza, along with producers Gerald Molen and Doug Sain, are in Tampa, Fla., for the GOP gathering.
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2012, 03:49:42 AM
Box Office Report: Anti-Obama Doc Surges to No. 2 on Monday
Hollywood Reporter ^ | 8-28-2012 | Pamela McClintock
Posted on August 29, 2012 1:00:56 AM EDT by smoothsailing

August 28, 2012

Box Office Report: Anti-Obama Doc Surges to No. 2 on Monday

by Pamela McClintock

The film grossed $1.2 million for the day, according to preliminary estimates, bested only by "The Expendables 2."

As Republicans gathered in Tampa, Fla., for the GOP convention, conservative documentary 2016: Obama's America rocketed to No. 2 at the domestic box office Monday.

Obama's America grossed an estimated $1.2 million for the day from 1,091 theaters, dropping a narrow 37 percent from Sunday. Most films dropped 60 percent or more.

The film, based on Dinesh D’Souza book, now has grossed $10.5 million to become the No. 6 political documentary of all time and the top conservative doc. It's also the top documentary of 2012, excluding nature films.

Monday's number could come in slightly lower or higher once final numbers are released. Obama's America came in No. 7 for the weekend with a hearty gross of $6.5 million.

Lionsgate and Millennium Films' The Expendables 2 continued to top the box office Monday, grossing an estimated $1.4 million.

Obama's America, co-directed by D'Souza and John Sullivan, is planning another major expansion that will push its theater count past 1,700 locations in the coming days.

"Screens are being added on an hourly basis in response to demand," said Mark Joseph of MJM Entertainment, which is helping to market the film. "Our job over the last six months was to create interest in the film. The rest is up to the people. Ultimately, they'll decide the screen count."

Obama's America -- promoted heavily on talk radio and distributed by Rocky Mountain Pictures -- timed its nationwide expansion Friday to the Republican National Convention, which officially gets underway Tuesday after a one-day weather delay due to Tropical Storm Isaac....

(Excerpt) Read more at hollywoodreporter.com ...
Title: Re: Are any of you planning to see 2016?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2012, 05:55:29 AM
'Obama's America' producer says CNN rejected ad -- EXCLUSIVE

by James Hibberd

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The producer of the highest-grossing conservative documentary of all time claims CNN rejected the film’s ad because it was “too political.”
 
John Sullivan, executive producer and co-director of the breakout documentary 2016: Obama’s America, says the film’s ad has run on Fox News, MSNBC, Discovery Channel, A&E and other networks, but that it was turned away by CNN. “They rejected our ad, actually,” Sullivan told EW.com. “A really weird situation. That was really funny. They said it was ‘too political,’ which is very odd because we have no affiliation with any political party of any sort, or PAC, or anything of that nature.”
 
CNN (which, like EW, is owned by Time Warner) confirms the filmmakers submitted the ad, but denies the commercial was “rejected.” “CNN did not reject the ad,” a network spokesperson said. “We asked them to explain why they believe the ad is not subject to political advertising disclosure requirements, and we did not hear back from them with any explanation.”
 
The network’s concern was a Federal Election Commission rule that states any telecast advocating for the election or defeat of a federal candidate must have its funding source revealed in a disclaimer notice (“Paid for by…”). Such notices are standard on political ads, yet might be unprecedented for a popular theatrical film. An MSNBC spokesperson said the commercial ran without a disclaimer, like a regular movie ad. “The ad was approved through NBC News standards and practices before air,” an MSNBC spokesperson said.

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Sullivan says his $2.5 million production, which has earned $9.4 million since its debut seven weeks ago, was financed by a “a broad base of investors,” including “business Democrats and Republicans,” and that no corporation funded the film. “There’s no grand investor conspiracy here,” Sullivan says.
 
Sullivan hopes that a second 2016: Obama’s America ad that’s being submitted to media outlets will be approved by CNN, though sources say the news network hasn’t received it yet. “Hopefully we’ll be up on CNN next week,” Sullivan says. “They haven’t approved it yet. So, if anything, they’re ‘too political,’ is what I would say.”
 
This isn’t the first time a political documentary polemic during an election year has a prompted debate over whether its commercials qualify as political ads. Michael Moore’s 2004 film Fahrenheit 9/11 faced similar concerns. Obama’s America makes an argument against reelecting the president, though has come under fire by fact checkers. — Grady Smith contributed to this report