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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: sportingsteroids on November 17, 2005, 04:26:17 PM
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will you change something here:
1-10 week test e 750 mg/week
1-10 week deca duraboline 400mg/week
1-6 week dbol 40 mg/day
PCT:
8-12 week clomid 50mg/day
nolvadex if necessary, !!
thanks
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nope..looks good
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will you change something here:
1-10 week test e 750 mg/week
1-10 week deca duraboline 400mg/week
1-6 week dbol 40 mg/day
PCT:
8-12 week clomid 50mg/day
nolvadex if necessary, !!
thanks
I don't like dbol, don't like the way I feel when on it, and its never done anything for me oher than make me feel like crap. But if it works for you great. If it were me though I would drop the dbol and add winny for say the last 5 wks at 50mg eod. Also I would either add 2 more weeks to the test e or drop the decca to only 8wks. Why does your PCT start at wk 8? And one last thing, for your first test e injection I would probaly double the dose
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DIVISIONAL CHANGES:
1-12 week Sustanon 500 mg/week
1-12 week Deca 400mg/week
1-4 week Dbol 50 mg/day
PCT:
15 week clomid 50mg/day
nolvadex if necessary, !!
DIV
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I don't like dbol, don't like the way I feel when on it, and its never done anything for me oher than make me feel like crap. But if it works for you great. If it were me though I would drop the dbol and add winny for say the last 5 wks at 50mg eod. Also I would either add 2 more weeks to the test e or drop the decca to only 8wks. Why does your PCT start at wk 8? And one last thing, for your first test e injection I would probaly double the dose
do you mean, on first week to add 1500 mg test e !!
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DIVISIONAL CHANGES:
1-12 week Sustanon 500 mg/week
1-12 week Deca 400mg/week
1-4 week Dbol 50 mg/day
PCT:
15 week clomid 50mg/day
nolvadex if necessary, !!
sustanon instead test e, u think it is better solution,,, will andropen will beter than sustanon !!
DIV
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sustanon instead test e, u think it is better solution,,, will andropen will beter than sustanon !!
Andropen is like sustanon, just a few different esters I believe.
Sustanon is even and doesn't bloat like the other Tests.....
It's a good base for any stack.
DIV
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i would discontinue the deca at wk 10 if ur running a 12 wk cycle. if u go with 750mg/wk test e i would bumb the deca to 600mg/wk if u could.
muscle
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Cycle looks pretty good to me. Just did pretty much the same cycle and dosages except used Abombs instead of dbol for the first 6 weeks. Gained 25 lbs, and have kept it all 9 weeks out.
No need to max out with the first injection as was suggested. The dbol will "jumpstart" you just fine. Stop the deca 1-2 weeks before the test. I like running hcg throughout at 500IU every 5 days. Run it for 2 additional weeks after the cycle ends. I also did letrozole at 1.25mg throughout. Maybe wasn't necessary, but had absolutely no sides and I'm prone to gyno.
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No need to max out with the first injection as was suggested. The dbol will "jumpstart" you just fine.
Maybe not, but when I suggested it I was doing so without him using dbol
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Maybe not, but when I suggested it I was doing so without him using dbol
He's using the D-bol.........he won't be doubling the first Test dosage....
DIV
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He's using the D-bol.........he won't be doubling the first Test dosage....
DIV
Right, I understand that, I was just giving him my preference, because I just plain don't like dbol
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Right, I understand that, I was just giving him my preference, because I just plain don't like dbol
Neither do I.
It's bloats me, makes me feel lethargic, and the strength gains are overrated.......at least for me they were.
DIV
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same here on the dbol, i will never use it again but that doesnt mean it wont wok for the next person, i to do think it is overrated but for some they love the stuff, it just made me feel too wierd and i dont think it worked that well.
muscle
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okay im dropping the dbol from my next cycle then :-\
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dude, try it out and see what u think of it first, like i said some people respond well to it and if u drop the dbol, maybe go with some winny for the last 6 wks of the cycle if u have already faily low bf levels, its a great way to clean up ur gains (along side diet of course)
muscle
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dude, try it out and see what u think of it first, like i said some people respond well to it and if u drop the dbol, maybe go with some winny for the last 6 wks of the cycle if u have already faily low bf levels, its a great way to clean up ur gains (along side diet of course)
muscle
Right..
Everyone is different, genetics.
For me D-bol doesn't work that well.
In that same way, Winstrol works great for me.
I don't get any sides from Winstrol.......no stiff joints or anything.
It just depends on the genetic predisposition.
DIV
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Right..
Everyone is different, genetics.
For me D-bol doesn't work that well.
In that same way, Winstrol works great for me.
I don't get any sides from Winstrol.......no stiff joints or anything.
It just depends on the genetic predisposition.
DIV
Yeah he should try it for himself, you never know how you will react. I'm like you, the Winny doesn't cause me any problems, i think its one of the best things out there. What's kind of weird though is that after I finish a cycle where winny was used, lets say at about the time PCT starts, I will have some joint stiffness, and pain, but nothing serious, and it goes away fairly quickly. I'm not sure if this is a late side effect from the winny, or what, but it's not a big enough deal to really worry about.
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Yeah he should try it for himself, you never know how you will react. I'm like you, the Winny doesn't cause me any problems, i think its one of the best things out there. What's kind of weird though is that after I finish a cycle where winny was used, lets say at about the time PCT starts, I will have some joint stiffness, and pain, but nothing serious, and it goes away fairly quickly. I'm not sure if this is a late side effect from the winny, or what, but it's not a big enough deal to really worry about.
For those who have joint issues with Winny, it would work perfectly with Deca......as Deca fills prostaglandin receptors in the joint tissues.......avoiding breakdown and subsequent pain.
DIV
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hi, 70mg/winny a day, is it big dosage !
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o yeah but some even do 100mg ed, i would not recommend that as not that many people want to turn pro. do at least 50mg ed, that will work great.
muscle
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hi, 70mg/winny a day, is it big dosage !
I use 75MG on workout days.....
Mainly to account for any loss of drug via first pass through the liver.
DIV
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I use 75MG on workout days.....
Mainly to account for any loss of drug via first pass through the liver.
DIV
good point!
muscle
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hi, but only winstrol without any stacking !
1-5 week 50mg/day
6-10 week 70mg/day
and liv52 like protection !!
will it be better now !
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I would start off with more test... This will keep levels at a higher average all the way through...
Let's say you inject every 10 days roughly the half life of enanthate.
If you start off at 750 you have to wait a few weeks for the half lives to start to stack up,, (commonly people mistake this for the test not "Kicking in" for a few weeks,, but in reality it's all the leftover half lives that are giving you more test each time...
Try this instead...
(If you inject more frequently (let's say every 7 days) values will start raising each week instead of dropping)
inject1 1500 in system 1500
inject2 1000 in system 1750 1500/2=750+1000
inject3 750 in system 1625 750/2=375+1000/2=875+750 (375+500+750)
inject4 750 in system 1562 (375+500+750)/2 = 812.5 + 750
inject5 750 in system 1531 781+750
inject6 750 in system 1516 766+750
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did u try that
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yeah, gains come quicker and it gives you more time in the zone..
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I would start off with more test... This will keep levels at a higher average all the way through...
Let's say you inject every 10 days roughly the half life of enanthate.
If you start off at 750 you have to wait a few weeks for the half lives to start to stack up,, (commonly people mistake this for the test not "Kicking in" for a few weeks,, but in reality it's all the leftover half lives that are giving you more test each time...
Try this instead...
(If you inject more frequently (let's say every 7 days) values will start raising each week instead of dropping)
inject1 1500 in system 1500
inject2 1000 in system 1750 1500/2=750+1000
inject3 750 in system 1625 750/2=375+1000/2=875+750 (375+500+750)
inject4 750 in system 1562 (375+500+750)/2 = 812.5 + 750
inject5 750 in system 1531 781+750
inject6 750 in system 1516 766+750
Eh, BG
Do you have a half life graph that shows the fluctuating levels of administration of Sustanon250 over the course of a 12+ week cycle?
I'm interested to see how the halflives overlap and how much test is actually in the system.
Let me know, man.
DIV
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yeah, gains come quicker and it gives you more time in the zone..
what did u use for PCT !
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Eh, BG
Do you have a half life graph that shows the fluctuating levels of administration of Sustanon250 over the course of a 12+ week cycle?
I'm interested to see how the halflives overlap and how much test is actually in the system.
Let me know, man.
DIV
http://www.roidcalc.com/ (This should sort it out for you)
I believe that the creator already took into account the 4 esters of Sust and their half-lives when he wrote this, so it should be fairly accurate. (try to adjust it so that you have the same amount of test in week1 as week 4.
For instance type in:
Week 1 = 1,000
Week 2 = 675
Week 3 = 670
Week 4 = 670
Now you see that by taking a gram of Sust on your first week is actually no different on your body than injecting only 670 on week 4. (This is where people get confused and think 1 gram is too much, but as you can see it is really no different than any of the other injection. Also notice that in week 5 when you have taken nothing, that you still have around 200mg's of test in your system.)
Hope that helps.
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http://www.roidcalc.com/ (This should sort it out for you)
I believe that the creator already took into account the 4 esters of Sust and their half-lives when he wrote this, so it should be fairly accurate. (try to adjust it so that you have the same amount of test in week1 as week 4.
For instance type in:
Week 1 = 1,000
Week 2 = 675
Week 3 = 670
Week 4 = 670
Now you see that by taking a gram of Sust on your first week is actually no different on your body than injecting only 670 on week 4. (This is where people get confused and think 1 gram is too much, but as you can see it is really no different than any of the other injection. Also notice that in week 5 when you have taken nothing, that you still have around 200mg's of test in your system.)
Hope that helps.
Thanks, BG.
I appreciate it.
DIV
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http://www.roidcalc.com/
it is very interestig...