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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on August 27, 2012, 04:58:19 PM
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Pics from his last year, when he competed with a torn triceps hanging by a thread prove nothing. Post pics from 90 to 96 as well :)
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Yes, Nasser, Kevin and Dillet look fantastic from the front. Turn them around and they are almost a joke. Kevin had a decent RLS and at times Nasser did too. But that's it. They were destroyed because of their bad back development.
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Mes you need a life
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Yes Dorian did indeed.
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Great post mesomorph!
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He dominated the gifts department
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Watch video then you'll see
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Yes, Nasser, Kevin and Dillet look fantastic from the front. Turn them around and they are almost a joke. Kevin had a decent RLS and at times Nasser did too. But that's it. They were destroyed because of their bad back development.
dorian looked fantastic from the back but turn him around to the front......
he has had the most gifts of all mr o's IMO
look at the legs.....
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all gifts legs and arms missing or that contest... but he he was grainy and had a back.....
i made this thread in rebuttal to ontimehards comment
"Dorian Dominated and slaughetred the 90's"
I made this thread to illustrate that is utter bullshit
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cut of the head in this pic
who was dominating from the back
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and dorian won this mr o Dominated... like hell he did....
gift
IMO he won 2 legitmately the rest gifts
I feel for kevin flex nasser shawn etc
no wonder shawn was always bitter on his vids about Dorian he has legitimate cause
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yeah it was a sham.
just like people saying ronnie would lose to dorian.
I don't think so:
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he walked by me at a show in 92 and he was the biggest human being i have ever seen up close he had leather jacket on and it looked like they sewed 2 jackets together or he handpicked the cow it came from.people practically bowed as he walked by a complete buzz.
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too bad you are not the judge, and your opinion does not count at all
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too bad you are not the judge, and your opinion does not count at all
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You guys should build a time machine and rectify this atrocity
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Yes, Nasser, Kevin and Dillet look fantastic from the front. Turn them around and they are almost a joke. Kevin had a decent RLS and at times Nasser did too. But that's it. They were destroyed because of their bad back development.
But they own him in every other pose. So its not about overall development its about the Mr. O the big wigs want to win and them focusing on his one strong point. ::)
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Yes, Nasser, Kevin and Dillet look fantastic from the front. Turn them around and they are almost a joke. Kevin had a decent RLS and at times Nasser did too. But that's it. They were destroyed because of their bad back development.
What about Dorian's bad front development? Does that not matter or do people walk around backwards?
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too bad you are not the judge, and your opinion does not count at all
Exactly, Dorian dominated in terms of perfect scores and that's all that counts the rest is opinion. Opinions count for nothing
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too bad you are not the judge, and your opinion does not count at all
Yip Correct
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Pictures of him standing next to people would be nice.
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That front lat spread is unreal
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Yes. Yes he did.
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Hmm so I gues those pics I posted must. Be some kind of mirage or illusion
Some of those wins given to Dorian were atrocious .... The pics the comparisons don't lie....
Pure fanboyism on this thread ...
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Hmm so I gues those pics I posted must. Be some kind of mirage or illusion
Some of those wins given to Dorian were atrocious .... The pics the comparisons don't lie....
Pure fanboyism on this thread ...
Photos are just one single millisecond of a contest. You can throw up desirable photos of Nasser owning Ronnie in 98 or Dana Lynn Bailey owning Cedric McMillan the other week at an expo. Watch the videos or see them for real and you begin to see how they look in relation to one another whilst opening up and moving around the stage etc. Just like how people will post photos of Phil on his own and say he is narrow, but ignore the fact that when you watch the last Olympia he was give or take a couple of inches the same width as Jay.
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Photos are just one single millisecond of a contest. You can throw up desirable photos of Nasser owning Ronnie in 98 or Dana Lynn Bailey owning Cedric McMillan the other week at an expo. Watch the videos or see them for real and you begin to see how they look in relation to one another whilst opening up and moving around the stage etc. Just like how people will post photos of Phil on his own and say he is narrow, but ignore the fact that when you watch the last Olympia he was give or take a couple of inches the same width as Jay.
Photo's say a lot when there is consistency, we are not talking about isolated cases here.
Dana Lynn Bailey owning Cedric? Not sure if serious?
Jay is far wider than Phil.
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Photo's say a lot when there is consistency, we are not talking about isolated cases here.
Dana Lynn Bailey owning Cedric? Not sure if serious?
Jay is far wider than Phil.
You are missing the point. What I am saying is that depending on the angle you are trying to spin on something, the easier it will be to find. I can go right now and probably find photos where Phil looks just as wide as Jay depending on the angle and other variables. Point is, people latch on to one aspect ignoring others and use that to debunk the whole contest. I will readily admit by 97 Dorian's arms (particularly in the FDB) pale in comparison to the rest of his physique/former years.
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Photo's say a lot when there is consistency, we are not talking about isolated cases here.
Dana Lynn Bailey owning Cedric? Not sure if serious?
Jay is far wider than Phil.
seriously...... :-\
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Lots of non-whites melting in this thread :D
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Dorian yates DOMINATED 100%
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Anglo-Saxon genetics FTW
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pregoyates dominated cock sucking of the judges
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Pictures always downplay conditioning. "You had to be there" might sound like a cop out but it's true. Unless someone took 100 megapixel pictures of those guys.
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Other than the front double biceps pose, no one was even close.
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I for one am glad someone has had the guts to finally tackle this topic. I often wonder why GB never talks about this. Huzzah!
Also, I'm wondering if it's time yet for the annual Jeff King thread.
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I for one am glad someone has had the guts to finally tackle this topic. I often wonder why GB never talks about this. Huzzah!
Also, I'm wondering if it's time yet for the annual Jeff King thread.
Hasn't been discussed enough, I agree.
We need a thread on yates vs ronnie vs nasser - who would win at their best
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Dorian yates is hardcore .... not a lot of guys would keep up with him in his prime.
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I'm not sure what the dillett pic is supposed to prove. Everyone knows paul was a freak, and dwarfed many, looked insanely inhuman, but it doesn't mean anything on stage.
Dillet couldn't pose. At all
Dillet had a very poor back, accentuated by huge delts
Dillet did not have dorians conditioning, and if he had, he wouldn't be able to display it
And I liked dillet, like everyone else(no homo), but its fact
Nasser wasn't good enough, except ab/thigh
At the time neither was ronnie
Nor kevin, especially from behind
Nor ray, size
Nor labrada, size
Etc
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I'm not sure what the dillett pic is supposed to prove. Everyone knows paul was a freak, and dwarfed many, looked insanely inhuman, but it doesn't mean anything on stage.
Dillet couldn't pose. At all
Dillet had a very poor back, accentuated by huge delts
Dillet did not have dorians conditioning, and if he had, he wouldn't be able to display it
And I liked dillet, like everyone else(no homo), but its fact
Nasser wasn't good enough, except ab/thigh
At the time neither was ronnie
Nor kevin, especially from behind
Nor ray, size
Nor labrada, size
Etc
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And if you actually look at the pic, he is more or less matching Dillett in width and size. Look at the legs etc.
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yates was that good before his biceps blow out . but its also a boost for HIT . IN A WAY DORIAN TRAINED A BIT MENTZER STYLE .. BUT THE ONLY MR O who did it it seems .
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King Dorian
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British Beef of the best quality ;D
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And if you actually look at the pic, he is more or less matching Dillett in width and size. Look at the legs etc.
Its true, natural clavicle width, quads, calves, chest
But dillet's delts & arms! Unfookingbelievable!
Unfortunately takes more than that, you need more than just show muscles from certain angles. Otherwise strydom wouldve been Mr O, along with mike christian and nasser
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lol @ people who can look at those pics and still say nasser had no back. dude was robbed of at least one olympia, plain as day.
i'm white fyi ;D
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lol @ people who can look at those pics and still say nasser had no back. dude was robbed of at least one olympia, plain as day.
i'm white fyi ;D
In the BDB posted for favorable nasser comparison, yates is at a bad angle, not in pose yet, and nasser still looks mostly all delts (oil filled delts)
Its a fluke. Like when in some pics boyer coe has visible abs
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Lots of people melting down over Dorian's dominance of the 90's.
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not a lot of people here can say they would keep up with Dorian Yates training...i would not. The Man was HARDCORE to the extreme but it was his way...like Mike Mentzer
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King Dorian
He looked great in 92, he started getting blocky in 93. Although he kept great conditioning, he couldn't carry the extra mass well after 1993.
He got a lot of gifts, but then so did Ronnie.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
He carried the mass perfectly well.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
He carried the mass perfectly well.
Dorien yates was the King.
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NOBODY comes remotely close to that BDB.
Cue Hulkster saying Dorian's back was "paper-thin" ::)
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Dorian Yates was the best Bodybuilder in the 90īs that is fact. His traning intensity proved it. Show me a top US pro that could keep up with Dorien Yates??
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
He carried the mass perfectly well.
That 95 prejudging video of Yates is the best anyone has ever looked on a bodybuilding stage.
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This is impressive, except for the blatant synthol abuse!!!! Dorian wins any comparison against this cheating shit by default.
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NO other guy trained like Dorian....no one ;) his RAW training was what made him like fucking GRANITE..hard
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NO other guy trained like Dorian....no one ;) his RAW training was what made him like fucking GRANITE..hard
I actually disagree with that cos training doesn't maketh the conditioning, I think it was his nutrition and response to drugs that made him the granite that he was. That's my shitty 2 cents.
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I actually disagree with that cos training doesn't maketh the conditioning, I think it was his nutrition and response to drugs that made him the granite that he was. That's my shitty 2 cents.
ok intresting comment..
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NO other guy trained like Dorian....no one ;) his RAW training was what made him like fucking GRANITE..hard
You ever done steroids Donny? it's not that hard to train like an animal with 3grams of gear and 20ius of gh flowing through your veins. Not attacking you, jus sayin
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You ever done steroids Donny? it's not that hard to train like an animal with 3grams of gear and 20ius of gh flowing through your veins. Not attacking you, jus sayin
no and i never will
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
He carried the mass perfectly well.
It was going fine until Nasser got called out, his back didn't even look weak this year. Complete robbery.
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It was going fine until Nasser got called out, his back didn't even look weak this year. Complete robbery.
Dude, do you have spectacles tinted by the thong of Nasser or something ???
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Dorian was the man...the US had no one to match the granite man from Birmingham...solid and as a man Hard.
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Dorian was the man...the US had no one to match the granite man from Birmingham...solid and as a man Hard.
supposedly the Great Scot called Jimmy Thompson put doz in his place back in the day 8)
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Dorian was the greatest! Caucasian genetics FTW!!
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;D ;D ;Dpumpking dorian ;D ;D ;D getting ass raped by Nasser and complete annihilation by Ronnie "G.O.A.T" Coleman.
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Yates................... ............... ::)
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nice arms champ.. ::)
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look at that last pic and yates fans thing je should win a sandow looking like tht thats a diss to dorian himself
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was doz the white lee haney?
ie. torso overpowering arms
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Deepest cuts in the history of bodybuilding right there. The lines on his back are crazy deep, look at the shadows they're casting
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look at that last pic and yates fans thing je should win a sandow looking like tht thats a diss to dorian himself
Thats 97, and Im not really sure if he deserved the Sandow that year. The question is, was Nasser good enough to win with no back?
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I have no dog in this fight but you could quite feasibly argue that nobody should ever be allowed to win an Olympia with arms like this, no matter how good the rest is..
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I have no dog in this fight but you could quite feasibly argue that nobody should ever be allowed to win an Olympia with arms like this, no matter how good the rest is..
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Hmm... so it comes down to whats worse, no back, or 1/3 of the arms?
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Hmm... so it comes down to whats worse, no back, or 1/3 of the arms?
nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....
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nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....
Wide yes, but no thickness, no conditioning, no lower back. His back seriously almost looks as deformed as Dorian's arms.
As I said, Im not convinced Dorian deserved 97, but it's not like Nasser was knocking him out, thats whats so pathetic.
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ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted
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nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....
The back is 1 fourth to 1 third the entire body and Nasser's back is worse then some NPC competitors. where as the biceps are less then 10% of the physique.
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ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted
This is where our thinking is fundamentally different - I look at the arms as a percentage of the body, which is greater? The back, or the arms? The back, by far. Its damn near 33% or more of the body.
If you were asking, what would I rather have running around in a T shirt, arms obviously. But these guys aren't, they're judged on how well developed their body is, not their "gym rat" muscles. And the back is a MUCH, MUCH, larger percentage of muscle than the arms. Especially prior to 97, when Dorian still had triceps on both arms.
My .02
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Dorian had 1 arm in 97. He probably could have pulled out but was too much of a competitor to. It's not his fault nobody else was good enough that year to turn the judges heads. Dorian saw he was finished and retired. What more do you want?
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so that year... who had the better physique
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pure fan boyism
ronnie is my favourite bber and i will be the irst to say he didnt dominate in 02.. and 01 was close....
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so that year... who had the better physique
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pure fan boyism
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I think thats 95 bro, and Dorian dominated Nasser hard that year.
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ronnie is my favourite bber and i will be the irst to say he didnt dominate in 02.. and 01 was close....
Ive said over and over Im not sure if Dorian deserved 97, but I'm not convinced Nasser was good enough to win either.
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I think thats 95 bro, and Dorian dominated Nasser hard that year.
As far as thi -Ive said over and over Im not sure if Dorian deserved 97, but I'm not convinced Nasser was good enough to win either.
from that pic dorian dominated.... seriously
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wow hahhaha ok
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from that pic dorian dominated.... seriously
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wow hahhaha ok
No, I said that pic is from 95, a contest which Dorian dominated Nasser. Never said that 1 pic is displaying domination, but I'm not a guy that judges an entire contest based on 1 picture either.
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from that pic he lost from the front badly thats half the body so
he didnt dominate anything
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from that pic he lost from the front badly thats half the body so
he didnt dominate anything
Meso Im not getting drawn back into this arguement with you. You want to look at one pic and make your decision, thats fine. We all know your bias, as everyone knows mine. This is never going to end.
Same contest -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
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Meso Im not getting drawn back into this arguement with you. You want to look at one pic and make your decision, thats fine. We all know your bias, as everyone knows mine. This is never going to end.
Same contest -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
no bias at all.... i just dont think dorian dominated...
and all the pics i posted substantiates my belief...
if you notice the dorian fans post other pics and then say yeah yates dominated
i posted 8 pics and not one person can say yates dominated in one of those pics...
in face he looks so bad.... but of course his fans will never admit...
ok man its cool 8)
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ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted
A torn biceps is only visible in the front double biceps pose. Even if Yates lost that pose, he won every other one. If you have a torn pec, lat, or quad those are harder to hide.
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Dorian dominated from the front, back & side in 1992, 1993, 1995. In 1996 (he only dominated from the back), but he sure as hell didn't dominate in 1994 and 1997.
How the hell did Dorian get a perfect score in the symmetry round at the 1994 Mr. Olympia looking like this? Someone explain this because Milos (who came 13th) is owning the shit out Dorian.
4th pic is the score card.
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Deepest cuts in the history of bodybuilding right there. The lines on his back are crazy deep, look at the shadows they're casting
I have more here (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=139637603).
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I have more here (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=139637603).
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Asif post on bodybuilding.com
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Dorian dominated from the front, back & side in 1992, 1993, 1995. In 1996 (he only dominated from the back), but he sure as hell didn't dominate in 1994 and 1997.
How the hell did Dorian get a perfect score in the symmetry round at the 1994 Mr. Olympia looking like this? Someone explain this because Milos (who came 13th) is owning the shit out Dorian.
4th pic is the score card.
The same thing can be said of Ronnie Ice, in 2001 @ the O he didn't "Dominate" Cutler, or in 2002 @ the O he SCRAPPED bye with the win IMO only due to Levrone showing up with Sup-par Quads that year, and he Didn't "Dominate" @ the other Show he lost to Gunter in as well, Point being there was ALWAYS years the top champs looked liked crap (Bye there own high standards) its a 2 way street ice Both Coleman and Yates had somewhat "Questionable" Victory's, there are a NUMBER of pics showing Yates in Great Condition @ the 1997 O....obviously his arm was Shocking and his waist wider etc @ 270lbs and there's probably not too many who would of Blinked twice IF Nasser had gotten the Nod in 97, nether Coleman and Yates were "Perfect" however IMO Both @ their Respective Bests Yates was a touch more Balanced than Coleman overall, Coleman was Ultra Huge and Freakier no doubt about it however that alone wouldn't IMO guarantee him Victory, its the Balance of their Physiques 1st and foremost @ their Primes that could be the Answer in a Contest of the 2 THEN the rest of the Criteria would follow, and with that, there would be a result ether-way.
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Contests are not judged by one pic from one angle taken at a specific point in time
Regarding domination, even Haney in 90 and Arnold in 80 had their difficulties
Dickerson won in 82 over what many thought were better bbers with a torn pec and arm
Franco won with no legs in 81 and mutant gyno
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
He carried the mass perfectly well.
Yes he did in 95 but anytime he got super dry he seemed to lose
his thigh mass. The pics pre contest 1995 prove it.
Watch the 1993 prejudging video where he was a tad fuller
(I personally like the bit fuller look better)
His legs look awesome (and his arms for that matter)
at the 1993 Mr. O prejudging.
I think he had dried out more; or less carbs for the night show
and his legs had lost some sweep and size.
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He dominated the 90's no doubt I wouldnt say 100% though ....
One thing is for sure he will go down in history as the Mr.O with worst arms ever.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
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He dominated the 90's no doubt I wouldnt say 100% though ....
One thing is for sure he will go down in history as the Mr.O with worst arms ever.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
No, that would be Dickerson and Franco.
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No, that would be Dickerson and Franco.
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Dorians arms at his best were superior to either of those two at their best
And as franco aged, his bis became knottier, and dickerson tore one(or both?) bicep, and a tri too, I think, coupled with the bursitis in the elbows, his arms were pretty shot by 1982
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Mesmorph are you trolling or just a moron? ;D
Seriously, it is impossible to judge the outcome of a contest based on a picture or a collection of pictures. A photo only represents a second of what was a contest. Why do you think judging is done live? Watch the videos and you'll see how Dorian dominated everyone (probably except 97).
I think I can understand your logic though, you look at a comparison pic and think "wow this bodybuilder has more impressive bodyparts here and there, he wins!"...that is not how contests are judged. Three main things are judged: muscle size, conditioning and balance & proportion. Dorian was far ahead his competition in these criteria. And it is not only my opinion, but it is supported by fact..the fact that Dorian won with straight firsts.
And yes, Dorian dominated more than Ronnie did. At his best in 98, Ronnie won by 3 points in one of the closest contests ever...Dorian in 93 was so dominant that he wasn't even compared in one of the rounds.
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@ Iceman,
Dorian won the symmetry rounds with perfect score (even when not having the best symmetry) because all rounds are physique rounds. This means all the criteria is judged in every round, size, conditioning, proportion, etc. Obviously Dorian met all the rest of the criteria better and since the lowest scores are tossed..it is clear to see why he got firsts.
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Mesmorph are you trolling or just a moron? ;D
Seriously, it is impossible to judge the outcome of a contest based on a picture or a collection of pictures. A photo only represents a second of what was a contest. Why do you think judging is done live? Watch the videos and you'll see how Dorian dominated everyone (probably except 97).
I think I can understand your logic though, you look at a comparison pic and think "wow this bodybuilder has more impressive bodyparts here and there, he wins!"...that is not how contests are judged. Three main things are judged: muscle size, conditioning and balance & proportion. Dorian was far ahead his competition in these criteria. And it is not only my opinion, but it is supported by fact..the fact that Dorian won with straight firsts.
And yes, Dorian dominated more than Ronnie did. At his best in 98, Ronnie won by 3 points in one of the closest contests ever...Dorian in 93 was so dominant that he wasn't even compared in one of the rounds.
1 when you address me if you are expecting a reply... dont get personal (1st line)
2 i dont think dorian... dominated anything... most of his wins were gifts the pictures i posted dont lie....
i do not gree with the criteria where you can look like dogshit from the front and win because you have a good back
and no one should be allowed to win the mr olympia title with both arms torn THAT is not a full physique....
3. IMO dorian sucked apart from 93 92.... dorian is the branch of the 90's essEntally a conditoned FUX
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Dorian dominated from the front, back & side in 1992, 1993, 1995. In 1996 (he only dominated from the back), but he sure as hell didn't dominate in 1994 and 1997.
How the hell did Dorian get a perfect score in the symmetry round at the 1994 Mr. Olympia looking like this? Someone explain this because Milos (who came 13th) is owning the shit out Dorian.
4th pic is the score card.
I was in Atlanta for the show in 1994 and Dorian had a 3rd place physique at BEST. Shit, Aaron Baker should have been 5th, maybe 4th over Dillett. Dorian came out for the prejudging bloated as hell, no seperation and bad color. Shawn Ray was the clear winner that year with Levrone 2nd
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ive said this many times b4
Yates got gifts
he was the white man @ the right time so the powers that be gave him the O title
being buddies with Steve Weinberger and Manion helped his cause
his only possibly deserving victory was 93 and many think Flex shldve won that year
true winnersof the O
94 shawn ray
95 kevin or nasser
96 Nasser
97 Nasser
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lol @ people who can look at those pics and still say nasser had no back. dude was robbed of at least one olympia, plain as day.
i'm white fyi ;D
Nasser had a massive wide an dthick back
and in 96 it was also detailed
just a tad less dry than Yates so Yates had nasser in the BDB pose
but in RLS he was beating yates
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ive said this many times b4
Yates got gifts
he was the white man @ the right time so the powers that be gave him the O title
being buddies with Steve Weinberger and Manion helped his cause
his only possibly deserving victory was 93 and many think Flex shldve won that year
true winnersof the O
94 shawn ray
95 kevin or nasser
96 Nasser
97 Nasser
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