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Shahty, Russia Aug 25th,2012
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damn
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Why did you steal my thread >:(
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RIP.
And way to spot, particularly by the guy in the red.
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pose in peace, powerlifter.
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Why did you steal my thread >:(
sorry,i repost it
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No need to watch the video but that's terrible. RIP
Not sure what to say about the spotters...185 kg isn't really unmanageable for two decent spotters. :-\
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Sad, lifters don't often die directly because of a missed lift. And now everyone will go around telling people how dangerous powerlifting is.
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Powerlifting seems to be correlated with reduced cerebral function in the US
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how do we know he died?
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He went to failure.
/you guys are slipping
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RIP.
And way to spot, particularly by the guy in the red.
Thinken same thing
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I don't think he died. I mean, it's possible ... but unlikely.
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I don't think he died. I mean, it's possible ... but unlikely.
yeah I've seen more weight drop on a guy in my gym, but hey what do I know I'm not a doctor but its hard to believe he was sitting like this while hsi heart ripcage etc was damaged.
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So a dead guy is sitting there drinking water
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thumbless grip of peace
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No need to watch the video but that's terrible. RIP
Not sure what to say about the spotters...185 kg isn't really unmanageable for two decent spotters. :-\
I'm not going to watch that video, but I have posted about useless spotters before.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=225381.0
Why are they there if they cannot catch and handle the entire weight if/when the lifter fails? ???
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So a dead guy is sitting there drinking water
Well, it is possible he was hemorrhaging internally while he sat there ... and croaked several minutes later. Or something like that. But I still doubt it.
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Similar to the nasty accident Gene Rychlak had years ago. Bad side spot on this one.
It made the papers in Russia, apparently he walked it off, went to the hospital, and died there of a ruptured diaphram, maybe due to the broken ribs.
I can't make it out, was his grip thumbless?
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poor guy
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I'm not going to watch that video, but I have posted about useless spotters before.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=225381.0
Why are they there if they cannot catch and handle the entire weight if/when the lifter fails? ???
I hav ebeen a spotter. Some powerlifting mets last for 5-6houers, u get tired and cant concentrate for so long time. And there is always problem finding people to spott powerlifter, it a boring task. I think the benchpress shirt is the problem not the spotters. In ipf they have protection, metal stands on the sides
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Yes, he did die.
Damn.
:'(
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how do we know he died?
He had a heart attack a little while afterwards....its not instant death
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Similar to the nasty accident Gene Rychlak had years ago. Bad side spot on this one.
It made the papers in Russia, apparently he walked it off, went to the hospital, and died there of a ruptured diaphram, maybe due to the broken ribs.
I can't make it out, was his grip thumbless?
i thought that too, but after looking closer, it seems the bar just slips out of his hands.
a decent pair of gloves and/or hand chalk, and some fucking SAFETY STANDS. Would have saved his life.
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He had a heart attack a little while afterwards....its not instant death
BRUtal
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He had a heart attack a little while afterwards....its not instant death
it was most likely due to genetic predisposition...
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it was most likely due to genetic predisposition...
"Athlete died in the powerlifting competition August 25, 2012 City Shahty. Igor Golushkin. He died after injuring his heart, diaphragm, broken ribs and torn abdominal cavity. He was 34 years old and was attemping to lift 185kg"
http://www.frequency.com/video/igor-golushkin-weightlifter-dies-in/58594712 (http://www.frequency.com/video/igor-golushkin-weightlifter-dies-in/58594712)
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No need to watch the video but that's terrible. RIP
Not sure what to say about the spotters...185 kg isn't really unmanageable for two decent spotters. :-\
I don`t think I have ever seen any spotter be much of any help whatsoever at the competitions. What is their purpose anyways? There is no way they would be able to catch that weight once its dropped without some injury to the lifter. Human reaction time is not that fast, nor would they be able to apply the needed force to halt the weight.
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I don`t think I have ever seen any spotter be much of any help whatsoever at the competitions. What is their purpose anyways? There is no way they would be able to catch that weight once its dropped without some injury to the lifter. Human reaction time is not that fast, nor would they be able to apply the needed force to halt the weight.
Deflect, aid, control, or pull off.
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I don`t think I have ever seen any spotter be much of any help whatsoever at the competitions. What is their purpose anyways? There is no way they would be able to catch that weight once its dropped without some injury to the lifter. Human reaction time is not that fast, nor would they be able to apply the needed force to halt the weight.
Spotters should be able to assist getting heavy weight under control quick/well enough to prevent a lifter from getting severely injured (or dying!).
I was at a meet once and saw someone fail on a VERY heavy bench press. The weight came down in a split second right towards his face...the spotters caught the bar as the lifter's head was turned completely to the side and the bar was within millimeters of his face. Crazy. His face would have been smashed.
Spotters can also help to instill confidence on heavy lifts at big meets. The spotters at the Olympia powerlifting meet were totally awesome. I completely failed on my opening squat at the Olympia...the back spotter was so good that it gave me more confidence for the rest of my lifts.
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Spotters should be able to assist getting heavy weight under control quick/well enough to prevent a lifter from getting severely injured (or dying!).
I was at a meet once and saw someone fail on a VERY heavy bench press. The weight came down in a split second right towards his face...the spotters caught the bar as the lifter's head was turned completely to the side and the bar was within millimeters of his face. Crazy. His face would have been smashed.
Spotters can also help to instill confidence on heavy lifts at big meets. The spotters at the Olympia powerlifting meet were totally awesome. I completely failed on my opening squat at the Olympia...the back spotter was so good that it gave me more confidence for the rest of my lifts.
why can you not use a cage?? maybe a dumb question because i aint a power lifter ;)
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He was using the death grip, aptly named.
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why can you not use a cage?? maybe a dumb question because i aint a power lifter ;)
Some now are. But the promoters big gripe over the years has been time and cost. They don't want it on the bench press because you'd have to adjust and re adjust it for every lifter on every lift. Also it blocks photographers and judges eyes.
The biggest thing during these meets is time, most last close to the whole day, and as Julio Ceasar mentioned, people get bored and cranky, so most meets are done without them. Also lifters on their own never raised a fuss over it, so it's business as usual.
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Ok i asked ripitubbaby but the slag is too good to answer ???
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Ok i asked ripitubbaby but the slag is too good to answer ???
Sorry I stepped away from getbig for a little while ::)
A cage is tough for judging, etc. The benches at the Olympia had safety racks and they were awesome. That's obviously ideal but I would imagine the equipment is more expensive. And as BB said, we all had to get on the equipment before the meet and size everything up...rack heights, safety bars, etc. It has to be recorded and changed for every lifter. But yes, that's ideal.
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wow the guy in the red couldve atleast caught 80 pounds of the force what a dick head just standing there not giving a fuck
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Sorry I stepped away from getbig for a little while ::)
A cage is tough for judging, etc. The benches at the Olympia had safety racks and they were awesome. That's obviously ideal but I would imagine the equipment is more expensive. And as BB said, we all had to get on the equipment before the meet and size everything up...rack heights, safety bars, etc. It has to be recorded and changed for every lifter. But yes, that's ideal.
Ok thank you i apoligise for my comment.
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Would he have died if the bar were a fat bar/axel? Hmm...just wondering.
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That is bizarre and rather concerning. I wonder what happened with his grip. The youtube version of that press is just too pixelated to be sure.
Safety bars might not have saved him. I've only seen one bench with them but they do not extend very far down the body (for obvious reasons).
Though I do feel like a complete idiot for 1 repping recently on the only bench WITHOUT safety bars in my gym.
Edit: I have pressed with bars that spin a little more freely than I would like and I can feel them rotating and stressing my forearms as I press, I'm guessing that bar must have rotated and threw him off. Any bar that rotates too freely really freaks me out. I hadn't done 4 plates until recently, and the other thing I wasn't prepared for was bent bar + weight rocking, which also can destabilise you.
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wow the guy in the red couldve atleast caught 80 pounds of the force what a dick head just standing there not giving a fuck
They could have saved a life, true, but you can't blame the spotters unless they knew and ignored the potential of it slipping out of the grip. The guy very clearly had the lift.
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Spotters need to be ready for anything at any time!!!! I blacked out wirth 903 pounds in my hands and it hit me hard, essentially retired from contest for 3 yrs, did not hurt me but scared the shit out of me. As for this guy looks like a thumbless grip was partially to blame also, but yeah spotters should of been right there!
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They could have saved a life, true, but you can't blame the spotters unless they knew and ignored the potential of it slipping out of the grip. The guy very clearly had the lift.
right im sure the impact may have dislodged a chunk of blood fat wich caused the heart attack. regardless i think powerlifting is stupid, the only guys that are good at it are roided chimps
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Open condom style.
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Looks like spotter wanted him to get hurt, well, he succeeded. Didnt watch tho just read an article. On a side note they wanted to act tough and be considered tough guys, looks like the bar and weights were tougher than this loser.
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right im sure the impact may have dislodged a chunk of blood fat wich caused the heart attack. regardless i think powerlifting is stupid, the only guys that are good at it are roided chimps
like i said: genetic predisposition
We know that is what has been causing all these bbing deaths and near deaths. It is not the drugs or the fact that 185 Kg slammed into this guy's chest. That was just the final touch (5% by some accounts)
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He went to failure.
/you guys are slipping
Lol, seriously though. Two times in life you need a spotter, powerlifting and auto erotic asphyxiation.
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Damn, that was terrible. Shows you lifting these kind of weights is no joke. Too bad for the guy. How he even managed to get up after that is amazing.
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Look at all the damage that drop did. And it only fell about 12 inches. Imagine what would happened if that bar was dropped from 6 feet. It would probably cut the body in half.
Russian weightlifter Igor Golushkin (Игорь Голушкин) died after 185 kg barbell he was trying to bench press at a powerlifting competition in the city of Shahty (Шахты) slipped his grasp and crushed his chest. The crushing weight of the barbell severely hemorrhaged his heart, destroyed his diaphragm, broke his ribs and ripped torn his abdominal cavity.
>34 year old athlete from Rostov-on-Don, Igor Golushkin competed in the weight category of up to 90 kg. While not new to weightlifting, this was his first time in a competition.
>According to expert analysis, Igor Golushkin used an illegal hold that athletes call “open enough” when he was crushed. It was also said that he shouldn’t have been trying his luck with weights beyond what he was capable of handling during training (his maximum bench press during training was 160 kg
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Jesus fuckin christ that looked like it hurt. It must be humbling to feel yourself bleeding out from the inside.
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"after 185 kg barbell he was"
"illegal hold that athletes call “open enough” "
"his maximum bench press during training was 160 kg".
Yikes, #25kgs/55lbs jump is crazy when your best (and I'm guessing post that was post training cycle) lift was #160. Add to that the thumbless grip, and you're asking for trouble.
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Thread from a Russian Powerlifting forum from folks who were there -
http://forum.powerlifting.ru/index.php?showtopic=30388 .
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I always open grip bench. This incident will make me reconsider on heavy lifts.
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wow the guy in the red couldve atleast caught 80 pounds of the force what a dick head just standing there not giving a fuck
it is true the guy on the right just missed everything and let the bar drop as hard as it did
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Horrible looking accident. Very very shitty spotting, but the guy was being irresponsible by the sounds of it.
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That is pure stupidity. One should use spotters that are 'experienced' and 'trained', and not some people in the audience or some beginners. A spotter should keep his hands together a few inches below the bar at all time, and follow its movement. Then, he/she can easily catch it. Two good spotters have no problem to stop or slow 400 or even 500 pounds. But nowadays any benchpress competition should use a benchpress like the one in the pic below. You can regulate it so it catches the weight slighlty below chest level, and thus prevent any serious damage - even without spotters. Amazing, three pages and none of you have mentioned such safety devices. Have you never seen it? Its regular in the IPF...
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The guy in red,
Was he a spotter, or a spectator looking for a real good view of the action?
Wtf?
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Thread from a Russian Powerlifting forum from folks who were there -
http://forum.powerlifting.ru/index.php?showtopic=30388 .
Very interesting comments
I would elaborate further, but I don't speak russian!
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3 White lights in the SPF and a new state record.
seriously though, killing yourself with only 405? At least make it an even 500 and you'd have something worthwhile to put in the obituary
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Amazing, three pages and none of you have mentioned such safety devices. Have you never seen it? Its regular in the IPF...
They were mentioned by someone, and then myself (safety bars).
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Very interesting comments
I would elaborate further, but I don't speak russian!
Sorry, with google it auto translates. They mentioned that the fellow got up and then went unconscious, some in the audience tried to do CPR which might of contributed to his death. There is some anger that the meet continued after they carted him off to the hospital, but it was a big meet for the area.
They also mention that the fellow was trying hard to make big leaps in his training poundages, and that he was only pressing 120kgs two years ago.
Also talk that the equipment and general set up of the meet was substandard, and that some of the people including the spotters may of run of in fear of being questioned after the accident. A linked news story mentions that the Russian government is investigating the matter.
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That is pure stupidity. One should use spotters that are 'experienced' and 'trained', and not some people in the audience or some beginners. A spotter should keep his hands together a few inches below the bar at all time, and follow its movement. Then, he/she can easily catch it. Two good spotters have no problem to stop or slow 400 or even 500 pounds. But nowadays any benchpress competition should use a benchpress like the one in the pic below. You can regulate it so it catches the weight slighlty below chest level, and thus prevent any serious damage - even without spotters. Amazing, three pages and none of you have mentioned such safety devices. Have you never seen it? Its regular in the IPF...
well this was why i asked about using a Cage... i mean the weight some of these guys use is crazy.
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i thought that too, but after looking closer, it seems the bar just slips out of his hands.
a decent pair of gloves and/or hand chalk, and some fucking SAFETY STANDS. Would have saved his life.
I did that with 275 onthe bar! Rolled back and landed between my pecs and abs! Bruised my ribs was black and blue for about 2 or 3 weeks!
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sorry,i repost it
besides stealing and copying, what else can you fucking chinese do?
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wow, the spotters were truly useless. that was horrible.
but I never understood why people go so far with everything and their health, just to push a big weight for one rep once in a blue moon.
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Sad as hell. I've seen busted faces, torn muscles, broken bones. Never a death.
No reason to watch the video. Shit like that can get in your head and never leave.
However, people die playing golf too. Do what you do playas
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why can you not use a cage?? maybe a dumb question because i aint a power lifter ;)
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In the federation I lift in, there are safety bars which prevent the bar from crushing your throat. But it wouldn't have helped in this situation
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In the federation I lift in, there are safety bars which prevent the bar from crushing your throat. But it wouldn't have helped in this situation
Yeah, the bench I used with safety bars isn't designed for this situation, either.
More suicide grip awesomeness (with less death). Whilst the bar did fall from a lower height, the spotters did get a piece of it.
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I'd put a hump on the slore at 0:38.