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Title: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:01:38 PM
Is that fat loss heart rate range bullshit?

When doing cardio, should I go full on (which makes me feel really good, during and after workout) or should I stick to that fat loss heart rate range?

???
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Andy Griffin on September 01, 2012, 01:07:48 PM
Is that fat loss heart rate range bullshit?

When doing cardio, should I go full on (which makes me feel really good, during and after workout) or should I stick to that fat loss heart rate range?

???

I know there is a diversity of opinion on this issue, but there is almost universal agreement that if you are going to stick to a "range" then don't rely too heavily on whatever is pre-printed on the machine. 
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:10:13 PM
I know there is a diversity of opinion on this issue, but there is almost universal agreement that if you are going to stick to a "range" then don't rely too heavily on whatever is pre-printed on the machine. 

Thank you for the constructive reply!  I'll make sure to calculate the rate on my own! 
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Andy Griffin on September 01, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
Thank you for the constructive reply!  I'll make sure to calculate the rate on my own! 

No problem.  There are some good heart rate monitors available that aren't too expensive (especially for wealthy GetBiggers).
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: flipper5470 on September 01, 2012, 01:17:15 PM
HIIT...high intensity interval training burns fat like....some kind of furnace that burns fat.   try ending your workout with 5 minutes of tabatas as well.  Go full on for 20 seconds and then rest for 10. It's a bitch...but it feels great
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:18:10 PM
No problem.  There are some good heart rate monitors available that aren't too expensive (especially for wealthy GetBiggers).

I should just steal a monitor from one of the many fat fuckers that are wearing the lifting gloves, belt, sweat bands, ipod strapped to their jiggly arm, clip board with workout log, water bottle, and whey shaker bottle, walking around with their arms flailing like their lats are too big.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Andy Griffin on September 01, 2012, 01:21:27 PM
HIIT...high intensity interval training burns fat like....some kind of furnace that burns fat.   try ending your workout with 5 minutes of tabatas as well.  Go full on for 20 seconds and then rest for 10. It's a bitch...but it feels great

I live by HIIT workouts.  They have done me a lot of good.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:25:54 PM
HIIT...high intensity interval training burns fat like....some kind of furnace that burns fat.   try ending your workout with 5 minutes of tabatas as well.  Go full on for 20 seconds and then rest for 10. It's a bitch...but it feels great

I love HIIT, don't know why I haven't been doing it lately.

I use to do it on an indoor soccer field, it was so bad ass.  Got in such good shape for a while there.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
Anyone know how HIIT works physiologically?

Tried googling, can't find anything.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Andy Griffin on September 01, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
Some basic info I found

http://www.myomytv.com/hiit-me-with-it-how-does-hiit-work/
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 01, 2012, 01:43:07 PM
Some basic info I found

http://www.myomytv.com/hiit-me-with-it-how-does-hiit-work/

THANKS!!!
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: POB on September 01, 2012, 01:46:31 PM
Keep your HR 120-140, my .02..

Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 02, 2012, 02:48:55 AM
Keep your HR 120-140, my .02..



okay, i have one more question if you guys don't mind.

Heart Rate is the main indicator right?  It's not about muscle soreness, etc.?

For instance, 150 BPM over a certain time period accomplishes the same thing whether it's achieved by running, swimming, jump roping?

Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: dj181 on September 02, 2012, 05:51:10 AM
okay, i have one more question if you guys don't mind.

Heart Rate is the main indicator right?  It's not about muscle soreness, etc.?

For instance, 150 BPM over a certain time period accomplishes the same thing whether it's achieved by running, swimming, jump roping?



it's more about percieved exertition ie. how hard or difficult it feels (spelling is wrong, but there ain't no goddamn spell check anymore, so hopefully you get what i'm trying to say)
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 02, 2012, 11:23:04 AM
it's more about percieved exertition ie. how hard or difficult it feels (spelling is wrong, but there ain't no goddamn spell check anymore, so hopefully you get what i'm trying to say)

This is what I was wondering, I understand!!! Thanks!

Spell check is working for me, but I use firefox.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: sync pulse on September 02, 2012, 11:25:33 AM
it's more about percieved exertition ie. how hard or difficult it feels (spelling is wrong, but there ain't no goddamn spell check anymore, so hopefully you get what i'm trying to say)

Compose in Micrsoft Word then paste....
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: dj181 on September 02, 2012, 11:57:54 AM
Compose in Micrsoft Word then paste....

lol!

yeah right, so i'm really gonna take that much trouble and time to make a proprely spelled post :D
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Nomad on September 02, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
Anyone know how HIIT works physiologically?

Tried googling, can't find anything.

HIIT is another gimmick to cover for steroid/gh abuse. LIIT is best for fat loss because its scientifically proven that your body is more willing to burn fat for energy when you are at 60-70% of your max heart rate.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Metabolic on September 02, 2012, 12:19:17 PM
This might help you, OP

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=79
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: dj181 on September 02, 2012, 12:31:03 PM
i honestly believed that some form of aerobic training was required to get ripped, but as i've recently found out... it's not

the key is calories, or lack thereof

but if the OP wants to do aerobic training for improved fitness levels, then yeah that's a damn good idea, and is in fact a requirement
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 02, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
HIIT is another gimmick to cover for steroid/gh abuse. LIIT is best for fat loss because its scientifically proven that your body is more willing to burn fat for energy when you are at 60-70% of your max heart rate.

I understand what you're saying here, but I had worked out forever (never dieting to seriously), and I was stuck at a certain bodyfat physique (lack of willingness to eat the way I needed to).  I started doing 200' sprints full on, highest intensity possible. (Around the time JNN was going on about it).

It worked well
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Hulkotron on September 02, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
The short answer is it's bullshit, yes.
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on September 02, 2012, 02:30:04 PM
Surprising lack of scientific answers here  ???

Read any biochemistry text and its FACT that your bodies primary fuel when VO2 max is 50-60% is indeed FAT.

As that % increases, you switch to more carbohydrate fueled workout. You are still burning more fat as well but the % of fat to carb burned decreases, if that makes sense. That's why low intensity cardio post workout or upon waking is deemed a "pure" fat burning exercise.

High intensity will however create more EPOC effect. Meaning more fat will be burned hours after the workout, but it's not glycogen sparing like low intensity. So, yes there is a method to the madness that is not even debated in the human physiology world, it's fact. Cheers  8)
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Marty Champions on September 02, 2012, 02:35:18 PM
I dont even know what happens, sorry bro
Title: Re: Fat Loss Heart Rate
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 02, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Surprising lack of scientific answers here  ???

Read any biochemistry text and its FACT that your bodies primary fuel when VO2 max is 50-60% is indeed FAT.

As that % increases, you switch to more carbohydrate fueled workout. You are still burning more fat as well but the % of fat to carb burned decreases, if that makes sense. That's why low intensity cardio post workout or upon waking is deemed a "pure" fat burning exercise.

High intensity will however create more EPOC effect. Meaning more fat will be burned hours after the workout, but it's not glycogen sparing like low intensity. So, yes there is a method to the madness that is not even debated in the human physiology world, it's fact. Cheers  8)

Thanks for the in depth answer, very helpful!!