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Title: First cycle
Post by: Imran on November 19, 2005, 08:09:03 AM
Ive been into bodybuilding for abut 2 years now and have great gains, but i would like to try steriods. Ive been reading about them and bought some books. It would be appreciated if people could give me advice on first cycles, also personal experiences. Im not a big fan of  needles any one else had this problem.

Im 5' 9'

180 pounds

15% bf maybe bit more not sure

look forward to hearing your comments
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: muscle19 on November 19, 2005, 08:42:50 AM
like anyone here would tell u is a great beginner cycle would be:

test e or cyp-500mg/wk (shot once a wk if u dont like needles) 1-12
dbol-40-50mg every day 1-4

for post-cycle therapy-use nolva at 40mg every day for 4 wks, starting 2 wks after last test shot.

there u go, a good cycle that will yield good gains if u eat right, train right, sleep good, etc...

how old r u by the way?


muscle
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Imran on November 19, 2005, 09:00:02 AM
Thanks for the advice.

I'm 19 and from the uk.

Steriods from internet pharamacys are expensive know any cheap Places to buy.

Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 19, 2005, 09:17:04 PM
DIVISIONAL CHANGES:



Sustanon 500mg ew     (250MG Mon/Thurs)
D-bol 50MG ed              (spread out the dosage throughout the day)


PCT:

Nolvadex/Clomid - 3 weeks after your last shot.




DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2005, 09:30:44 PM
Thanks for the advice.

I'm 19 and from the uk.

Steriods from internet pharamacys are expensive know any cheap Places to buy.



Hey Bro- If I were you I might wait a few years- Your test level at 19- should be pretty damn high- you can still make some good gains- wait till you get another 10-20pds naturally and then go for it.


Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 19, 2005, 09:57:24 PM
Hey Bro- If I were you I might wait a few years- Your test level at 19- should be pretty damn high- you can still make some good gains- wait till you get another 10-20pds naturally and then go for it.

^Concur......

He's only 19, just a baby in the cradle.

He didn't say that in his original post.

He needs to wait at least 4-5 years, IMO.

NO AAS FOR YOU!   >:(




DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2005, 11:21:45 PM
Yeah-Listen to this dipshit, wait a few years, thwn again WhiteWidow only has 15 inch pipes so you might not want to listen to him..hahaha...train drug free bro!


lol- I think you are giving me to much credit. My arms are only 10 in fully pumped- thats with synthol in them-lol.  Dont listen to paxil he is a troll- stay away from the sauce- for a year or two.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Imran on November 20, 2005, 03:58:00 AM
 thanks for all your imput people, i think i will reconsider about steriods im just curios i've been reading up about them for a while now i just wanna see how they work, i'l only take them when i'm ready to fully commit to bodybuilding and if i do take them i plan to enter competitions like as a hobby.

b easy
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 20, 2005, 05:26:39 AM
thanks for all your imput people, i think i will reconsider about steriods im just curios i've been reading up about them for a while now i just wanna see how they work, i'l only take them when i'm ready to fully commit to bodybuilding and if i do take them i plan to enter competitions like as a hobby.

^Good Idea.





DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on November 20, 2005, 05:39:21 AM
Concur with the idea of waiting about 2 years.  Sounds like you are doing the right things by researching gear first. 

The first cycle posted by muscle19 is good and it does keep the shots down which is a good idea for anyone. so when you turn 21 you can think more about it.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 20, 2005, 05:52:26 AM
Concur with the idea of waiting about 2 years.  Sounds like you are doing the right things by researching gear first. 

The first cycle posted by muscle19 is good and it does keep the shots down which is a good idea for anyone. so when you turn 21 you can think more about it.

I don't understand why people say 21?

In your early 20's your natural test is still very high.......it's toward your late twenties that it starts tailing.  At best I'd give him 24-25......

Why such a rush to make him a pincushion?

Let the kid grow......



DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on November 20, 2005, 05:58:32 AM
Why such a rush to make him a pincushion?


DIV

Because I'm a diabolical, mad MF  ::)

Naw really it would be best I suppose to wait till one is mid 20's, thats what I did.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 20, 2005, 06:44:33 AM
Because I'm a diabolical, mad MF  ::)

^That's what the MILFs said....... ::)





DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Imran Khan on November 20, 2005, 06:56:46 AM
'People' i think im just gonna keep researching, i dont mind i find reading about steriods and there affects etc.  i find it interseting, plus i'm a broke ass student at the moment wont have any money for it until after christmas even if i wanted to buy steriods. All the pharamacy sites ive checked are expensive anyway, steriods are expensive in europe.

All the advice has been cool.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 20, 2005, 07:03:35 AM
'People' i think im just gonna keep researching, i dont mind i find reading about steriods and there affects etc.  i find it interseting, plus i'm a broke ass student at the moment wont have any money for it until after christmas even if i wanted to buy steriods. All the pharamacy sites ive checked are expensive anyway, steriods are expensive in europe.

All the advice has been cool.

Research your ass off........that's my best advice.

Understand everything there is to know about the drugs you will be injecting in to your body.



DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Imran Khan on November 20, 2005, 07:17:46 AM
I plan to, putting things into my body without knowing what i'm taking is stupid plus i want to know how they will affect my body and what changes i can except.

Has anyone got any personal experience of their use, the effects and what gains etc. were made.

b easy people. 
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: mem on November 20, 2005, 07:48:59 AM
I plan to, putting things into my body without knowing what i'm taking is stupid plus i want to know how they will affect my body and what changes i can except.

Has anyone got any personal experience of their use, the effects and what gains etc. were made.

b easy people. 

Smart approach to this . . .

become a student
then (perhaps) apply the
K N O W L E D G E !!!
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: imy on November 20, 2005, 09:46:54 AM
hay can some one tell me whether you have to inject the needle all the way into the muscle, because ive seen it done this way on a website but some people say you dont have to.

Imran
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: muscle19 on November 20, 2005, 10:36:18 AM
it all depends on the length of the needle and the muscle group being hit, like shoulders for instance, i would never use anything higher than 1" needle so if u had only 1.5" needle then i wouldnt stick it in all the way. now a 1.5" needle would work great for glutes so that time u can stick it in all the way but be carefuol cause there have been cases where the needle can break off into the muscle.


muscle
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: imy on November 20, 2005, 10:41:55 AM
thanks for your reply bro.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: imy on November 20, 2005, 11:00:54 AM
what do people think of an all oral cycle. how long could you go on an all oral cycle?
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 20, 2005, 01:00:47 PM
what do people think of an all oral cycle. how long could you go on an all oral cycle?

Don't do an all oral cycle......

Research and when you finally decide to us, do a decent first stack with a Testosterone base.

Do it right.........





DIV
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: imy on November 20, 2005, 01:28:49 PM
kk

thanks bro
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: delt jab on November 21, 2005, 04:04:06 AM
Is a 1" pin too big for jabbing the delt??????  I thought 5/8 was the suggested size. 
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: freakfestMD on November 21, 2005, 04:14:57 AM
1" is fine for delts
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Beyond Genetics on November 21, 2005, 04:23:18 AM
Is a 1" pin too big for jabbing the delt??????  I thought 5/8 was the suggested size. 

you'll get lumps with 5/8.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Arnold jr on November 21, 2005, 08:11:42 AM
a 1.5" needle would work great for glutes so that time u can stick it in all the way but be carefuol cause there have been cases where the needle can break off into the muscle.


muscle
Broke off in the muscle, man that's got to really suck! I have thought of that happening before, but it would seem that you would have to be really twisting and grinding the needle in there at some odd angle for this to happen, but then again I guess anything is possible.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Beyond Genetics on November 21, 2005, 08:51:16 AM
Broke off in the muscle, man that's got to really suck! I have thought of that happening before, but it would seem that you would have to be really twisting and grinding the needle in there at some odd angle for this to happen, but then again I guess anything is possible.

You would have to be pretty wreckless or just have a defective needle for it to break off.
  I bet if you asked how many people here it has happened to it is probably 0, I think it's more of an urban legend than anything.
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: Jdoug on November 21, 2005, 01:07:44 PM
it all depends on the length of the needle and the muscle group being hit, like shoulders for instance, i would never use anything higher than 1" needle so if u had only 1.5" needle then i wouldnt stick it in all the way. now a 1.5" needle would work great for glutes so that time u can stick it in all the way but be carefuol cause there have been cases where the needle can break off into the muscle.


muscle

puzzy  :D
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: imy on November 21, 2005, 02:08:54 PM
jdoug wat u chattin
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: JamieX4200 on November 21, 2005, 02:41:16 PM
you'll get lumps with 5/8.


Correct, go with the 1"
Title: Re: First cycle
Post by: DIVISION on November 21, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
be carefuol cause there have been cases where the needle can break off into the muscle.

Who?

If you know what you are doing, the needle will not break off in the muscle.

Where do you people come from with this bullshit?   ???

You would have to be pretty reckless to even bend the needle......much less break it.




DIV