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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Benny B on September 10, 2012, 08:17:20 AM
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Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan won't answer the most basic questions about their tax plan.
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Be all explained after they are both sworn into office, in Jan/2013.
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Tax rates are at historically low levels already.
Whether by design or by cynical politial calculation, Obama kept the Bush tax cuts in place till after the election.
When Jimmy Carter was elected, top tax rates were 70%. Reagan could cut them to 50% and be a hero. Today they are at 35% maximum. Except LT capital gains and dividends at 15%.
What can Romney do...can't go much lower.....
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Tax rates are at historically low levels already.
Whether by design or by cynical politial calculation, Obama kept the Bush tax cuts in place till after the election.
When Jimmy Carter was elected, top tax rates were 70%. Reagan could cut them to 50% and be a hero. Today they are at 35% maximum. Except LT capital gains and dividends at 15%.
What can Romney do...can't go much lower.....
Ryans original budget had Cap Gains and Dividends taxed at @ 0% or very close
On the other hand, Simpson/Bowles wanted both Cap Gains and Dividends taxed as ordinary income which for someone like Romney would be 25% or whatever the top tax bracket that Simpson Bowles had in their plan (think it was 25% or 28%)
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In regards to Ryans plan, Mitt stated that he was going to "run his own numbers and plan".
So much faith in Ryan. ::)
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I can't get liberals to answer my most basic question. Why vote for Obama again?
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I can't get liberals to answer my most basic question. Why vote for Obama again?
I already answered that.
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I can't get liberals to answer my most basic question. Why vote for Obama again?
for a true liberal it's an idiotic question
why would a liberal vote for a self proclaimed "severe conservative"
for everyone else it's the same reason as last time - the lesser of two evils
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I already answered that.
And I twice gave you an answer. I guess I'm waiting for a legit reason.
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TA, I apologize for that last remark. You did answer the question.
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I can't get liberals to answer my most basic question. Why vote for Obama again?
As Straw said, asking liberals this will not result in an answer. Exactly why asking fundies and wingnuts why they would vote for the GOPs shitty candidate.
If you wanted a nonpartisan answer, then you would be asking independents and swing voters this question.
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Can you honestly.tell me when you go to vote you don't know the reason why you're voting for that person? I do.
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Besides being on every side of every issue Romney is also a f'ng disaster on foreign policy (see his last trip where he made an ass of himself every time he opened his mouth). This guy has no core values (other than pure personal greed) and I can't seem him making good decisions for this country in either foreign or domestic policy.
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I can't get an answer to this to save my life.
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scroll up and re-read
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I think reading is his problem.
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I think the problem is you guys can't answer a question without the help of left wing rhetoric. I'll try to be more specific. Based on what Obama has done in the last four years, why would you vote for HIM again?
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I think the problem is you guys can't answer a question without the help of left wing rhetoric. I'll try to be more specific. Based on what Obama has done in the last four years, why would you vote for HIM again?
the choice is either Obama or Romney
I think Romney would be worse than Obama so I'm voting Obama
where is the "left wing rhetoric" in that answer
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I think the problem is you guys can't answer a question without the help of left wing rhetoric. I'll try to be more specific. Based on what Obama has done in the last four years, why would you vote for HIM again?
Its more what he has not done.
Look at the mess Bush caused. Atleast Obama doesnt make things worse.
The GOP is a joke now-a-days.
They will destroy everything and then blame it on the guy who comes after.
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Its more what he has not done.
Look at the mess Bush caused. Atleast Obama doesnt make things worse.
The GOP is a joke now-a-days.
They will destroy everything and then blame it on the guy who comes after.
Wait a second, anytime something is said about Obama fucking things up, you say the POTUS really has no control. But then in the next breath blame everything on Bush? Dude, towing the party line must be tiring, its making you delusional
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Wait a second, anytime something is said about Obama fucking things up, you say the POTUS really has no control. But then in the next breath blame everything on Bush? Dude, towing the party line must be tiring, its making you delusional
Bingo Whork or whatever his latest gimmick is is really just a demo DU trolling turd.
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Wait a second, anytime something is said about Obama fucking things up, you say the POTUS really has no control. But then in the next breath blame everything on Bush? Dude, towing the party line must be tiring, its making you delusional
I never said he has no control. He can make it worse.
He cant fix the economy but he sure can destroy it. Just start spending big time and he will make us "poorer" in a hardbeat. He certainly has the power to do this.
However he cant make us richer he could raise taxes but that raises some other problems.
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I never said he has no control. He can make it worse.
He cant fix the economy but he sure can destroy it. Just start spending big time and he will make us "poorer" in a hardbeat. He certainly has the power to do this.
However he cant make us richer he could raise taxes but that raises some other problems.
STFU moron.
if Obama and his cabal of ghetto whores, layabouts, dopers, druggies, marxists, socialists, gays, thugs, 94ers, et al simply got out of the way and left things alone we would be far better off.
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STFU moron.
if Obama and his cabal of ghetto whores, layabouts, dopers, druggies, marxists, socialists, gays, thugs, 94ers, et al simply got out of the way and left things alone we would be far better off.
Ahahahhhaaahhaaa ;D ;D
Try reading what you just posted and try again
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I never said he has no control. He can make it worse.
He cant fix the economy but he sure can destroy it. Just start spending big time and he will make us "poorer" in a hardbeat. He certainly has the power to do this.
However he cant make us richer he could raise taxes but that raises some other problems.
Again do you have any fucking idea how the government works? You think the POTUS can just spend money whenever he feels like it?
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I think the problem is you guys can't answer a question without the help of left wing rhetoric. I'll try to be more specific. Based on what Obama has done in the last four years, why would you vote for HIM again?
because my financial situation is much better than 4 years ago.
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Again do you have any fucking idea how the government works? You think the POTUS can just spend money whenever he feels like it?
Nope he needs congress approval etc
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because my financial situation is much better than 4 years ago.
I have to say that mine is as well.
If that's what I would solely vote on, then Obama would get my vote hands down... Unfortunately that's not the end all - be all of my politics.
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Its more what he has not done.
Look at the mess Bush caused. Atleast Obama doesnt make things worse.
The GOP is a joke now-a-days.
They will destroy everything and then blame it on the guy who comes after.
Fuck, if I hear one more time its Bush's fault I'm going to throw up. That Bullshit wore it self out after the first year.
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because my financial situation is much better than 4 years ago.
You do understand that just about everything he's done kicks in around 2014 don't you? Do you think all the stimulus, failed companies, Obamacare is going to be free? Hey, my financial situation is better as well but because of his failures were going to screwed. Do you realize that? Who do you think is paying for the extra 99 weeks of UE benefits? Who do think pays for the socialism? Before making a statement like that...think about it first.
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Fuck, if I hear one more time its Bush's fault I'm going to throw up. That Bullshit wore it self out after the first year.
If i see one more ridicilous anti Obama thread im gonna throw up. That BS wore itself out after the first year where you accused him of being a Nazi who wanted to make death camps
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"We have to be pass the bill so that you can find out what's in it" were the words of a douchebag liberal democrat who wouldn't answer the most basic question.
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If i see one more ridicilous anti Obama thread im gonna throw up. That BS wore itself out after the first year where you accused him of being a Nazi who wanted to make death camps
Tell your ghetto communist gay messiah to stop screwing us and there will be no more threads.
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You do understand that just about everything he's done kicks in around 2014 don't you? Do you think all the stimulus, failed companies, Obamacare is going to be free? Hey, my financial situation is better as well but because of his failures were going to screwed. Do you realize that? Who do you think is paying for the extra 99 weeks of UE benefits? Who do think pays for the socialism? Before making a statement like that...think about it first.
You just owned yourself.
All your posts the last 4 years is now worthless. Obama has no effect on the current economy his policies doesnt kick in before 2014.
Are you closing your account now?
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oops.
good one.
waiting for his reply.
hope it's as good. :)
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Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan won't answer the most basic questions about their tax plan.
Rich looking after the Rich
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This a problem too in the UK and Germany...lucky the french have wocken up
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You just owned yourself.
All your posts the last 4 years is now worthless. Obama has no effect on the current economy his policies doesnt kick in before 2014.
Are you closing your account now?
This post is precisely why liberals are some.of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. You just don't understand.
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This post is precisely why liberals are some.of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. You just don't understand.
These brain dead leftists, communists, gays, marxists, 94ers, etc will do anything to avoid obama's disastrous record.
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These brain dead leftists, communists, gays, marxists, 94ers, etc will do anything to avoid obama's disastrous record.
Apparently he doesn't get that some of his disasters have already kicked and 2014 is when the worst of it hits..like "Obamacare" which will financially ruin us if he gets re-elected. A friend mine has one of the biggest if not THE biggest insurance brokerages in the country and he was telling me that when and if Obamacare kicks in its going to cost his company an additional $4mil.
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Apparently he doesn't get that some of his disasters have already kicked and 2014 is when the worst of it hits..like "Obamacare" which will financially ruin us if he gets re-elected. A friend mine has one of the biggest if not THE biggest insurance brokerages in the country and he was telling me that when and if Obamacare kicks in its going to cost his company an additional $4mil.
I assume you are voting for Romney then?
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I assume you are voting for Romney then?
Yes, unfortunately for you its not even close to the shit Obama proposed but im sure you'll spin it.
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Yes, unfortunately for you its not even close to the shit Obama proposed but im sure you'll spin it.
It's got a lot of the same stuff in it Coach... People on both sides have admitted they are quite similar.
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Yes, unfortunately for you its not even close to the shit Obama proposed but im sure you'll spin it.
There is nothing to spin. The plans are very similar...down to the individual mandate, which is described by Jonathan Gruber, a professor of Economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, as "very similar."
Thus, if...as you say, "'Obamacare'... will financially ruin us if [Obama] gets re-elected," a Romney win would result in the same financial ruin. Of course, this is assuming Romney doesn't changed his mind...again. In that case, you would have to change your motto to "NEVER trust a conservative!"
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"We have to be pass the bill so that you can find out what's in it" were the words of a douchebag liberal democrat who wouldn't answer the most basic question.
Sounds like the Romney/Ryan plan
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You do understand that just about everything he's done kicks in around 2014 don't you? Do you think all the stimulus, failed companies, Obamacare is going to be free? Hey, my financial situation is better as well but because of his failures were going to screwed. Do you realize that? Who do you think is paying for the extra 99 weeks of UE benefits? Who do think pays for the socialism? Before making a statement like that...think about it first.
You just owned yourself.
All your posts the last 4 years is now worthless. Obama has no effect on the current economy his policies doesnt kick in before 2014.
Are you closing your account now?
Bump for an answer
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This post is precisely why liberals are some.of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. You just don't understand.
No you are the dumbest mother f**ker on the planet, please answer the question retard