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Title: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 10, 2012, 03:08:10 PM



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Post by: mesmorph78 on September 11, 2012, 01:40:51 AM
Johnnies upper body looks phenomenal ... No weak points
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Bevo on September 11, 2012, 01:46:50 AM
To be honest he isn't to impressive in person, thick yes but very short like 5'6 or 5'7 short
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on September 11, 2012, 03:11:34 AM
Seated shoulder barbell press = standing incline barbell press

that a joke!  Injury waiting to happen !
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: TRock99 on September 11, 2012, 03:14:58 AM
To be honest he isn't to impressive in person, thick yes but very short like 5'6 or 5'7 short

Yeah they (Branch & Johnnie)look thick, but like you said they look so damn short!!!! Like hobbits lifting
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Bevo on September 11, 2012, 03:42:18 AM
Yeah they (Branch & Johnnie)look thick, but like you said they look so damn short!!!! Like hobbits lifting

Yeah I was surprised, thinking he was at least 5'8 or 5'9 as he is listed but branch is even shorter maybe even 5'5/5'6 shorter than a legit 5'7 shawn ray lol

Matt C height approved!
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Post by: Tito24 on September 11, 2012, 04:16:00 AM
thick as a cock
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on September 11, 2012, 05:50:45 AM
here is a strong shoulderpresser:
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not all the way down to chest but pretty damn strong anyway. Down to the level of hes chin and press it all the way up
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Fortress on September 11, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
I wonder how many times during a full day that Pantera greatest hits CD plays. Fuck me runnin'.

And I love Pantera, but ...
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: SF1900 on September 11, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
I dont get why branch always says that his style of training works for him. Yet his goal is win a Mr. Olympia, which he has never done. Obviously if you're not accomplishing what you set out to do (win the Mr.O) then maybe the current training youre doing is not that effective.

I guess its effective if youre happy with not winning.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Parker on September 11, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
I dont get why branch always says that his style of training works for him. Yet his goal is win a Mr. Olympia, which he has never done. Obviously if you're not accomplishing what you set out to do (win the Mr.O) then maybe the current training youre doing is not that effective.

I guess its effective if youre happy with not winning.
If he wins the O, or even comes in 2nd, any shread of legitimacy that bbing has will be thrown out the door.

All that his training method has done has made him look like an Orc.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on September 11, 2012, 12:51:01 PM
x2
i still cant over the way they train.its funny how at gyms people say your doing this or that wrong.its worked for them i guess.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: SF1900 on September 11, 2012, 12:52:56 PM
If he wins the O, or even comes in 2nd, any shrewd of legitimacy that bbing has will be thrown out the door.

All that his training method has done has made him look like an Orc.

Well, I am not saying I hope he wins. I am saying that saying his training works is in contradictory to his goal of winning.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Parker on September 11, 2012, 12:59:08 PM
Well, I am not saying I hope he wins. I am saying that saying his training works is in contradictory to his goal of winning.
He has progressively looked worse since he won his Pro Card...yes he won the Arnold 2x, but he has brought the Arnold to a new low---funny how this coincides step by step with society in how society now legitimizes people who can't hang, the quality is low, the expectations are lowered for them.
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Post by: kreator on September 11, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
good to see him compete at the olympia, after all someone has to take the 8 place
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Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on September 11, 2012, 01:17:20 PM
here is a strong shoulderpresser:
&feature=related

not all the way down to chest but pretty damn strong anyway. Down to the level of hes chin and press it all the way up

wouldn't want to look like that jabba the hutt for all the tea in china
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 11, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
johnnie has definitely improved upper body wise anyway
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on September 11, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
here is a strong shoulderpresser:
&feature=related

not all the way down to chest but pretty damn strong anyway. Down to the level of hes chin and press it all the way up

only 8 out of the 7,000,000,000 people on the planet can do that
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Marty Champions on September 11, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
soundgarden always sounding good no matter how many times you heard it
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Post by: Bevo on September 11, 2012, 02:39:52 PM
He has progressively looked worse since he won his Pro Card...yes he won the Arnold 2x, but he has brought the Arnold to a new low---funny how this coincides step by step with society in how society now legitimizes people who can't hang, the quality is low, the expectations are lowered for them.

Same with johnnie and victor m. IMO both of those guys looked their best at nationals in 2000 and 2001 repectively.

Johnnies standing calf raises is hard to watch, I know it's mostly genetics and drugs but you would think if he slowed it down and performed with better form he would improve them a bit...
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 11, 2012, 02:47:29 PM
Same with johnnie and victor m. IMO both of those guys looked their best at nationals in 2000 and 2001 repectively.

Johnnies standing calf raises is hard to watch, I know it's mostly genetics and drugs but you would think if he slowed it down and performed with better form he would improve them a bit...
johnnie lookes good now.... less stringy arms filled out
but how does someone cheat on calf raises .. i nearly fell off my chair laughing.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 11, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
thick as a cock

slurp!
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Bevo on September 11, 2012, 02:58:02 PM
johnnie lookes good now.... less stringy arms filled out
but how does someone cheat on calf raises .. i nearly fell off my chair laughing.

Yeah but compare him to his 2001 nationals showing and Vic to 2000 and clearly they were all better before turning pro, much more conditioned instead of that "glazed" look sure he looks good now but compared to the past

Yes you can cheat on any exercise thought you would have known that  everything he does is sloppy
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2012, 04:53:57 PM
soundgarden always sounding good no matter how many times you heard it

STP>>>>>>>>soundgarden

Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Bam-bam on September 11, 2012, 08:31:57 PM





holy shit dude did what, 12 exercises for shoulders? total of 50 sets?? I always thought those crazy volume training Flex mags said bber used was bs  ???
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Benny B on September 11, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
To be honest he isn't to impressive in person, thick yes but very short like 5'6 or 5'7 short
I wouldn't describe that height as "very short."

Besides, you just described 75% of pro/top amateur bodybuilders. You must not have met many bodybuilders in person before, otherwise you would not have been particularly surprised at Johnnie's shorter-than average height.
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Post by: cephissus on September 11, 2012, 09:34:34 PM
holy shit dude did what, 12 exercises for shoulders? total of 50 sets?? I always thought those crazy volume training Flex mags said bber used was bs  ???

it's called making a video...

or having no life

or both
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Parker on September 11, 2012, 10:04:37 PM
Same with johnnie and victor m. IMO both of those guys looked their best at nationals in 2000 and 2001 repectively.

Johnnies standing calf raises is hard to watch, I know it's mostly genetics and drugs but you would think if he slowed it down and performed with better form he would improve them a bit...
Yeah, both looked better.
Maybe JJOJ should take a page out of Shawn Ray's calf training---slow it down, less weight. And have you seen Ronnie train calves on the seated calf machine? He does that jerky-bounce---he trains biceps and everything else in a more controlled manner, but calves..
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 11, 2012, 10:10:13 PM
Seated shoulder barbell press = standing incline barbell press

that a joke!  Injury waiting to happen !

ya those for sure where inclines. Esp/when he went to 315... I'd bet the house that if the back support was where its supposed to be for shoulders, he would barely be able to get a couple FULL reps with 315.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 11, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
I dont get why branch always says that his style of training works for him. Yet his goal is win a Mr. Olympia, which he has never done. Obviously if you're not accomplishing what you set out to do (win the Mr.O) then maybe the current training youre doing is not that effective.

I guess its effective if youre happy with not winning.

He's incapable of change. That's why he drives a massive truck, shoots helpless animals and is a republican to his death. He's a brainwashed robot. He's not even open to change. Being open to change shows intelligence.
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Post by: MCWAY on September 11, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
I dont get why branch always says that his style of training works for him. Yet his goal is win a Mr. Olympia, which he has never done. Obviously if you're not accomplishing what you set out to do (win the Mr.O) then maybe the current training youre doing is not that effective.

I guess its effective if youre happy with not winning.

And how is a different style of training going to be the difference, in terms of winning the Olympia? As for his training style not being effective, I think two ASC titles and a 2nd place at the 2009 Olympia (not to mention his other wins) would beg to differ.

But, by your strained logic, unless he wins the Olympia, every thing he's done to this point is a waste. Did Dexter Jackson's style of changing change in 2008 to give him the win?

Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: MCWAY on September 11, 2012, 10:16:09 PM
If he wins the O, or even comes in 2nd, any shread of legitimacy that bbing has will be thrown out the door.

All that his training method has done has made him look like an Orc.

He came in 2nd three years ago. Are you implying that bodybuilding hasn't had any legitimacy since 2009?
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 11, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
Anyone else come to the conclusion that JJ and Branch arent really insanely strong but use technique to get the weight to move. The video of the guy who inclined 200 pound dumbbells is insanely strong. Branch and JJ use the exact same technique of moving good amounts of weight a 1/4 rep at a time. Nassar's 225 pound bench press super slow is more impressive that some of these fools so called lifts.lol
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Post by: SF1900 on September 11, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
And how is a different style of training going to be the difference, in terms of winning the Olympia? As for his training style not being effective, I think two ASC titles and a 2nd place at the 2009 Olympia (not to mention his other wins) would beg to differ.

But, by your strained logic, unless he wins the Olympia, every thing he's done to this point is a waste. Did Dexter Jackson's style of changing change in 2008 to give him the win?



Well, if training matters so much, as you have stated, then yes, a different style of training may make a difference.

Branch has said, like most other bodybuilders that his dream is to win the Mr. O. But if youre not winning the Mr. O, then why would you keep doing the same thing every year and still not winning the Mr. ? Does not make sense to me. If youre not accomplishing what your main goal is, why wouldn't you change it up?

Cannot use his wins as evidence to suggest his training works. Bodybuilding is corrupted. He was a muscletech guy for a long time. Of course he won shows.

Given his injuries, his shitty aesthetics, and him never winning a Mr. O, id say its time for a change.

Dexter probably never had to change his training all that much. He always trained fairly well for a pro bodybuilder (thats not saying much either). And he was always on point, decent lines, etc. Not much to change when you have dexters build. He was always close enough. However, Branch is VERY far off, which would indicate a need for a change.

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Post by: MCWAY on September 11, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
Well, if training matters so much, as you have stated, then yes, a different style of training may make a difference.

Branch has said, like most other bodybuilders that his dream is to win the Mr. O. But if youre not winning the Mr. O, then why would you keep doing the same thing every year and still not winning the Mr. ? Does not make sense to me. If youre not accomplishing what your main goal is, why wouldn't you change it up?

Cannot use his wins as evidence to suggest his training works. Bodybuilding is corrupted. He was a muscletech guy for a long time. Of course he won shows.

Given his injuries, his shitty aesthetics, and him never winning a Mr. O, id say its time for a change.

Dexter probably never had to change his training all that much. He always trained fairly well for a pro bodybuilder (thats not saying much either). And he was always on point, decent lines, etc. Not much to change when you have dexters build. He was always close enough. However, Branch is VERY far off, which would indicate a need for a change.



Your explanations make little sense. Training the way he does now got him within a heartbeat of the Olympia title in 2009 and won him two ASC titles.

As for your claiming his wins are due to his being a Muscletech guy, need I remind you that Greg Kovacs, Matt Duvall, Jeramy Freeman, King Kamali were also MuscleTech guys for several years. Johnnie Jackson was too, before he won his first show.

If bodybuilding is so "corrupted", it makes even LESS sense for you to cite Warren's training as the reason he's yet to win the Olympia. And you've yet to answer exactly what is Warren supposed to be doing that going to make all the precious difference in his winning the big one (other than using one of the plates to clobber Heath in the back of the head).
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Post by: SF1900 on September 11, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Your explanations make little sense. Training the way he does now got him within a heartbeat of the Olympia title in 2009 and won him two ASC titles.

As for your claiming his wins are due to his being a Muscletech guy, need I remind you that Greg Kovacs, Matt Duvall, Jeramy Freeman, King Kamali were also MuscleTech guys for several years. Johnnie Jackson was too, before he won his first show.

If bodybuilding is so "corrupted", it makes even LESS sense for you to cite Warren's training as the reason he's yet to win the Olympia. And you've yet to answer exactly what is Warren supposed to be doing that going to make all the precious difference in his winning the big one (other than using one of the plates to clobber Heath in the back of the head).

Man, you really got a hard on for these bodybuilders and take serious offense when someone knocks them lol.

To be honest, I am too tired to even write a response back. I guess I lost this "argument." Like winning a bodybuiling argument has any merit anyway lol

I stand by my stance that he trains shitty, has a shitty physique, and should never be top 6 in the Mr. O with his structure. To be honest, his structure is so shitty, nothing will help him lol. Lost cause. If you want to love branch and write a retort so be it. Ill probably just read it and laugh.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: The.Giant on September 11, 2012, 11:12:28 PM
well, now we know why his calves suck so bad.
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Post by: Parker on September 11, 2012, 11:41:26 PM
He came in 2nd three years ago. Are you implying that bodybuilding hasn't had any legitimacy since 2009?
When it comes to Branch, there is no legitimacy---when it comes to bbing, it can be laughable at times.
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Bevo on September 12, 2012, 04:41:02 AM
I wouldn't describe that height as "very short."

Besides, you just described 75% of pro/top amateur bodybuilders. You must not have met many bodybuilders in person before, otherwise you would not have been particularly surprised at Johnnie's shorter-than average height.


You are right the height isn't very short but relative to normal population height. Ive met my fair share and that height seems to be the average since I lived most of my life training and growing up in california. I would say flex, Cormier, Ronnie and up to dillet are good heights for bbing.

I brought up johnnie and branchs height cause the dude is thick and some of the best traps, chest in the biz. But when I saw him in tx he looked shorter than listed which was around 5'8/5'9

Matt C height approved
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: MB on September 12, 2012, 06:11:19 AM
Anyone else come to the conclusion that JJ and Branch arent really insanely strong but use technique to get the weight to move. The video of the guy who inclined 200 pound dumbbells is insanely strong. Branch and JJ use the exact same technique of moving good amounts of weight a 1/4 rep at a time. Nassar's 225 pound bench press super slow is more impressive that some of these fools so called lifts.lol

It looks like Branch in particular has lost a lot of strength as he's aged.  Even with the herky jerky sloppy form, he still struggles with the weight.  He could reduce the weight significantly and still keep all his size. 
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: SF1900 on September 12, 2012, 08:09:58 AM
It looks like Branch in particular has lost a lot of strength as he's aged.  Even with the herky jerky sloppy form, he still struggles with the weight.  He could reduce the weight significantly and still keep all his size. 

Because his nickname is the "Pitbull" He is HARDCORE!!! Pantera playing all day long!! Gun!!! Meat! Sweat! Heavy iron clanging!

This is what life is truly about. Anyone who says otherwise is not hardcore. Plain and simple. This is a FACT!
Title: Re: Johnnie jackson blasting shoulders (video)
Post by: Tito24 on September 12, 2012, 08:44:36 AM
hulks sloppy seconds
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Post by: Rami on September 12, 2012, 08:47:53 AM
dang, they must built a healthy appetite after that
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Post by: Tito24 on September 12, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
appetite for destruction