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Kevin English, 3x Olympia 202 Showdown Champion, has formally announced that he will not be competing in the 2012 Olympia 212 Showdown. Citing an injury that has plagued him for years and recently gotten worse, English stated:
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I will not be competing in the 2012 Olympia 212 Showdown.
I’ve always had problems with my knees due to years of wrestling. I have no cartilage, just bone on bone. When I was dieting for the New York Pro, my body was often dehydrated and depleted which lessened the cushioning between my joints.
During a leg workout a few weeks after the show, I felt a really sharp pain when squatting. I immediately put the weight down. My training partner and physical therapist, Dr. Michael Camp, was there to provide immediate assistance.
I trained lighter over the next few weeks and the pain was bearable, but still there. The injury eventually progressed into a partial patella tendon tear, so we began the rehab process without giving up on the Olympia.
This weekend, Dr. Camp and I decided that training for the Olympia Showdown was counterproductive to the healing process. I would not be able to do both effectively; therefore, I am talking time off to heal, with the support of my therapist, MetRx, MD, and nutritionist Fakhri Mubarak.
I would like to thank everyone the continued support. I AM NOT RETIRED. We are already looking at shows for 2013. I will still be at the 2012 Olympia, working the Met-Rx booth and excited to see the show and the greatest fans in the world.
English won the Olympia 202 Showdown title the last three years and was among the favorites going in to this year’s competition. The door is now open to crown a new champion…check back to MD for all the breaking OLYMPIA WEEKEND news!
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Old news bro, watching the game now and it already came across the ticker at the bottom. ::)
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Sounds like a bunch of horse-shat to me.
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wait, it s not on CNN...
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Seems kinda fishy. Bodybuilding is not a real sport so I'm pretty sure he could still compete if he really wanted.
I see holes in this story:
-Who is dehydrated 3 weeks out?
-3 weeks away dude, just train around the injury, not like a ton of progress is gonna be made in that short amount of time anyway.
-Again I can't stress this enough, bodybuilding is not a sport so he could easily still stand on a stage in a thong in front of men without stressing the knee.
-Do people really train with their physical therapist hovering over them?
-Nutritionist. ::) 8) More like drug dealer.
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Seems kinda fishy. Bodybuilding is not a real sport so I'm pretty sure he could still compete if he really wanted.
I see holes in this story:
-Who is dehydrated 3 weeks out?
-3 weeks away dude, just train around the injury, not like a ton of progress is gonna be made in that short amount of time anyway.
-Again I can't stress this enough, bodybuilding is not a sport so he could easily still stand on a stage in a thong in front of men without stressing the knee.
-Do people really train with their physical therapist hovering over them?
-Nutritionist. ::) 8) More like drug dealer.
unraveling this thing like an onion,,,
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"I’ve always had problems with my knees due to years of wrestling. I have no cartilage, just bone on bone. When I was dieting for the New York Pro, my body was often dehydrated and depleted which lessened the cushioning between my joints."
If true, dude could not train legs at all. None. He would be in constant pain and barely able to walk without assistance.
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Needed to drop out for fear of the powers that be would give him the title once again and the crowd would riot hurting half the crowd (10-15 people). Great humanitarian looking out for the fans and not financial gain
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half the crowd (10-15 people)
:D
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A new champ will be refreshing.
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A new champ will be refreshing.
x2,,,
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Maybe this will open the door for getbigger and whore-pussy connoisseur Steve Namat.
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I have no cartilage in my knees.. Bone on bone.. I am waiting to get knee replacements.. I can tell ya the only thing I can do for legs is walking.. And that even hurts..
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I have no cartilage in my knees.. Bone on bone.. I am waiting to get knee replacements.. I can tell ya the only thing I can do for legs is walking.. And that even hurts..
How did you reach this state LATS?
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After last year's Olympia and this year's NY Pro, the judges were out of gifts for Kevin. Good decision to just step aside and feign injury.
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Super Mario takes it now
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Saw this earlier on SportsCenter ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Honestly..bad genes.. My mother has knee replacements.. My brother one already.. Now don't get me wrong, heavy squats and leg presses I am sure exacerbated the issue.. But my doc thinks my job had more to do with it than the lifting.. I am on my feet for the whole 8 hours on cement and walking..weighing over 250 the whole time added into it.. So additional outside issues factor in but, it was gonna happen..
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very good riddance
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THis is great news for the other 212 guys
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He looked like shit anyway
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He looked like shit anyway
x2
Horrible horrible physique and face
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Maybe this will open the door for getbigger and whore-pussy connoisseur Steve Namat.
steve deserves this win for all he has contributed here.
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Good riddance
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What's the Olympia?
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Flex Lewis will take it
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Flex Lewis will take it
You think? What about Correa? Dude is huge, and his conditioning is unmatchable!
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0716_JNUQNAUVJZ.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6285_KKHLJGXIGK.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6287_VPRWFOQZYD.jpg)
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He stole sammis qualification for this shit, that pussyassnukka.
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Oh no. I wonder if I will be able to fall asleep tonight.
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Horrible looking "physique", Nice work universe.
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At least Bob is a clean man. Not like Milo's and Steve Namat who repeatedly eat the pussy of whores.
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Wonder who Steve Weinberger will choose as the winner now?
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Needed to drop out for fear of the powers that be would give him the title once again and the crowd would riot hurting half the crowd (10-15 people). Great humanitarian looking out for the fans and not financial gain
LOL, and if this dropping out trend continues most of the top guys won't be there this year.
The reality MIGHT , (again MIGHT) be that the drug use required now is so extreme , very few pros can withstand it?
Hard to keep your body functional and be able to train when you have to use crap that may be dangerous?
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Wonder who Steve Weinberger will choose as the winner now?
I would be thrilled if it was Jose or David Henry, but LOOK at freaking Correa. I mean if you're going to pick a winner ahead of time, haha, this might just be the guy to pick.
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Kevin English, 3x Olympia 202 Showdown Champion, has formally announced that he will not be competing in the 2012 Olympia 212 Showdown. Citing an injury that has plagued him for years and recently gotten worse, English stated:
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I will not be competing in the 2012 Olympia 212 Showdown.
Beyond my control = I have no more money to support my habit
I’ve always had problems with my knees due to years of wrestling. I have no cartilage, just bone on bone. When I was dieting for the New York Pro, my body was often dehydrated and depleted which lessened the cushioning between my joints.
News Flash : lifting, carrying, and wrestling schmoes is bad for your health. Many major health insurance carriers are dropping BBers because of this. His body was dehydrated from what? Blowing his load on a schmoe??
During a leg workout a few weeks after the show, I felt a really sharp pain when squatting. I immediately put the weight down. My training partner and physical therapist, Dr. Michael Camp, was there to provide immediate assistance.
Yes, I am sure Mr. Camp knows how to provide that immediate assistance of a prostate massage there Kev ol' boy
I trained lighter over the next few weeks and the pain was bearable, but still there. The injury eventually progressed into a partial patella tendon tear, so we began the rehab process without giving up on the Olympia.
Progressed into. ::) STFU
This weekend, Dr. Camp and I decided that training for the Olympia Showdown was counterproductive to the healing process. I would not be able to do both effectively; therefore, I am talking time off to heal, with the support of my therapist, MetRx, MD, and nutritionist Fakhri Mubarak.
Therapist? Why not name him like you did your "nutritionist". Oh wait, your psych doctor...sorry.
I would like to thank everyone the continued support. I AM NOT RETIRED. We are already looking at shows for 2013. I will still be at the 2012 Olympia, working the Met-Rx booth and excited to see the show and the greatest fans in the world.
Thank god you aren't "retired". Don't know what I would do if you did that. I am sure there would be some sort of ceremony or something. God knows how important a bodybuilder is. What would your dealer do if you decided to quit buying shit now??
English won the Olympia 202 Showdown title the last three years and was among the favorites going in to this year’s competition. The door is now open to crown a new champion…check back to MD for all the breaking OLYMPIA WEEKEND news!
I am calling in sick to work just to keep checking MD for updates
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He actually does train with his P.T.
The other gentleman I don't know of.
His last couple of wins where close and debatable,but, that is the nature of this "sport"
He conducts himself like a pro, very approachable, very polite and very impressive to see train, he is massive for his size if that makes sense.
Many pictures are here of all the competitors, not many when they are next to each other, looking at a single physique does not tell the entire story. Back in the day Ferrigno used to stand next to objects, cars etc to show how big he was, when he got next to another bodybuilder he was always taller but not always bigger or better.
Side by side is the best way to determine who looks best.
Hopefully this year's winner can compete in 2013 against English and that should make for some more interest from the fans.
By the way English will be 39 or so by then, how do most competitors look at that age after competing for 20 years?
He won the Nationals in 1994.
It is easy to be critical here, many like to try to bring down others because of their own shortcomings, to bad. I would rather congratulate him on his wins at least he has accomplished something within this "sport"
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I would be thrilled if it was Jose or David Henry, but LOOK at freaking Correa. I mean if you're going to pick a winner ahead of time, haha, this might just be the guy to pick.
Correa has certain structural problems, ie T-Rex arms...it should be between him or Henry.
Jose is a mess, a total mess, no shape, odd size, just looks odd.
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He actually does train with his P.T.
The other gentleman I don't know of.
His last couple of wins where close and debatable,but, that is the nature of this "sport"
He conducts himself like a pro, very approachable, very polite and very impressive to see train, he is massive for his size if that makes sense.
Many pictures are here of all the competitors, not many when they are next to each other, looking at a single physique does not tell the entire story. Back in the day Ferrigno used to stand next to objects, cars etc to show how big he was, when he got next to another bodybuilder he was always taller but not always bigger or better.
Side by side is the best way to determine who looks best.
Hopefully this year's winner can compete in 2013 against English and that should make for some more interest from the fans.
By the way English will be 39 or so by then, how do most competitors look at that age after competing for 20 years?
He won the Nationals in 1994.
It is easy to be critical here, many like to try to bring down others because of their own shortcomings, to bad. I would rather congratulate him on his wins at least he has accomplished something within this "sport"
Um yeah, remember when this...
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_5716_BSYNPTYVYU.jpg)
Beat THIS:
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3916_OTDNUGUMOE.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3903_JHTKZKTDHU.jpg)
Are we still calling that an accomplishment and not a GIFT? I'm just checking here.
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You think? What about Correa? Dude is huge, and his conditioning is unmatchable!
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0716_JNUQNAUVJZ.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6285_KKHLJGXIGK.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6287_VPRWFOQZYD.jpg)
Corrrea gets shredded, but his lack of shape will hurt him. Flex has a prettier physique. And Flex is POPULAR!!! Should have won last year
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finally.
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Um yeah, remember when this...
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_5716_BSYNPTYVYU.jpg)
Beat THIS:
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3916_OTDNUGUMOE.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3903_JHTKZKTDHU.jpg)
Are we still calling that an accomplishment and not a GIFT? I'm just checking here.
You quoted me, but I don't think you read what I said.
Side by side comparisons, not singular pics.
Being there is even better, pictures only show so much.
There are many many "gifts" for many many reasons, that is why this is not a sport, it is a pagaent.
Have you ever met any of the competitors, spoken with them, trained with them?. I am trying to understand why you sound so angry??
Take a deep breath
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He actually does train with his P.T.
He conducts himself like a pro, very approachable, very polite and very impressive to see train, he is massive for his size if that makes
It is easy to be critical here, many like to try to bring down others because of their own shortcomings, to bad. I would rather congratulate him on his wins at least he has accomplished something within this "sport"
He conducts himself like a pro? You mean deals to fund his own use, uses people, lies to anyone asking him about what he uses, engages in all of the other nasty shit almost all other "pros" do?
Shortcomings? Yeah, I am not shooting so much shit in my body that I am now so psychologically addicted to it that I don't know when enough is enough. Yeah, my measly 200mg/wk is a shortcoming. Oh, and you're right this is not a "sport". I have seen my share of pros train. I have yet to be impressed with most (if not close to all) of their "intensity" in the gym. The farther they get in this "sport" the lazier they get.
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He conducts himself like a pro? You mean deals to fund his own use, uses people, lies to anyone asking him about what he uses, engages in all of the other nasty shit almost all other "pros" do?
Shortcomings? Yeah, I am not shooting so much shit in my body that I am now so psychologically addicted to it that I don't know when enough is enough. Yeah, my measly 200mg/wk is a shortcoming. Oh, and you're right this is not a "sport". I have seen my share of pros train. I have yet to be impressed with most (if not close to all) of their "intensity" in the gym. The farther they get in this "sport" the lazier they get.
So you bought PED's from him and he lied to you and used you. What exactly is it he engages in? If you have a yes answer to the first 2-3 questions and you have seen him do "nasty shit" then speak up, if not then shut up.
You inject PED's weekly? Why would you if "pros" do nasty shit as you say? Why then take anabolics, perhaps you have the psychological issue?
Why would you taken performance enhancers and not perform on stage and be judged?? I can only hope you are on HRT otherwise why then??
I am not saying English is the end all be all, but, I have seen him squat 500lbs for reps and incline bench 315 lbs for reps both impressive for any body weight. He does train hard I do not know who you are talking about, again you do not provide any specifics.
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Kevin is more impressive in person than in pics or vids. He is SHORT but HUGE!!! He reminds me of Lee Priest in that someone so short can have so much muscle
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So you bought PED's from him and he lied to you and used you. What exactly is it he engages in? If you have a yes answer to the first 2-3 questions and you have seen him do "nasty shit" then speak up, if not then shut up.
You inject PED's weekly? Why would you if "pros" do nasty shit as you say? Why then take anabolics, perhaps you have the psychological issue?
Why would you taken performance enhancers and not perform on stage and be judged?? I can only hope you are on HRT otherwise why then??
I am not saying English is the end all be all, but, I have seen him squat 500lbs for reps and incline bench 315 lbs for reps both impressive for any body weight. He does train hard I do not know who you are talking about, again you do not provide any specifics.
Actually Doc, mine are prescribed. Thanks for asking. I won't shut up because IFBB pro = MAJOR user = 99.99% of time dealer = will lie/cheat someone out of money.
Why do I? My test levels were in the 300's when I went for my blood tests. I competed for nearly 20+yrs without doing it. Thanks again for asking. Mine is PHYSIOlogical. Oh wait, let me guess...he doesn't take a lot because he is "genetically gifted" ::)
Seems I struck a nerve with you? Don't tell me you are so naive that you don't know what these guys do to support their desires to go 'far' in this activity called bodybuilding. Do you follow him every day? Are you aware of ALL his activities?
A good friend's quote : A bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder.
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Actually Doc, mine are prescribed. Thanks for asking. I won't shut up because IFBB pro = MAJOR user = 99.99% of time dealer = will lie/cheat someone out of money.
Why do I? My test levels were in the 300's when I went for my blood tests. I competed for nearly 20+yrs without doing it. Thanks again for asking. Mine is PHYSIOlogical. Oh wait, let me guess...he doesn't take a lot because he is "genetically gifted" ::)
Seems I struck a nerve with you? Don't tell me you are so naive that you don't know what these guys do to support their desires to go 'far' in this activity called bodybuilding. Do you follow him every day? Are you aware of ALL his activities?
A good friend's quote : A bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder.
You are an angry guy, ok whatever you say, you are the expert
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Actually Doc, mine are prescribed. Thanks for asking. I won't shut up because IFBB pro = MAJOR user = 99.99% of time dealer = will lie/cheat someone out of money.
Why do I? My test levels were in the 300's when I went for my blood tests. I competed for nearly 20+yrs without doing it. Thanks again for asking. Mine is PHYSIOlogical. Oh wait, let me guess...he doesn't take a lot because he is "genetically gifted" ::)
Seems I struck a nerve with you? Don't tell me you are so naive that you don't know what these guys do to support their desires to go 'far' in this activity called bodybuilding. Do you follow him every day? Are you aware of ALL his activities?
A good friend's quote : A bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder.
Don't worry Krank. The hallmarks of the bodybuilding lifestyle catch up to us all. Some can deny it longer than others, but comeuppance is a bitch and though we turn a blind eye to Lady Justice's pursuit, hers is a form of retributive justice that never tires of chasing man to balance the scales. You can't rush the metamorphosis from fan to jaded former-fan. The vicissitude will manifest in time...one need only plant the seed to watch the inevitable blossom rear its scorned head. We can then welcome him to his "wiser" years.
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You think? What about Correa? Dude is huge, and his conditioning is unmatchable!
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0716_JNUQNAUVJZ.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6285_KKHLJGXIGK.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_6287_VPRWFOQZYD.jpg)
Like mike saids flex is popular and he was runner up, he has the upper hand, correa has a good physique going but you don't really hear much about him. Henry should be good too
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You are an angry guy, ok whatever you say, you are the expert
I legitimately am laughing. At no point was I angry, none. Expert? Naw, but I have been around this whole thing long enough to get a very good idea of what this "sport" is like. You have guys prostituting themselves off for their drug habit, guys dealing and then telling everyone how ethical and nice they are (while scamming the newbies at the gym), these same guys telling people that they have "great genetics" and thats how they got so big. I won't even go into the what the women do.
If anything, my eyes are opened more and more with each passing day. I am glad I am done competing. Is it a personal thing with Kevin? Nope. Can you honestly tell me you haven't heard all the shit that goes on with bodybuilding nowadays? If you have, doesn't it just make you question how low can these guys go? This "sport" is no longer about who works the hardest, its now how has the best constitution to handle all the crap that is being thrown into a body. Come on man...do you really hold any of these guys on a pedestal? Even a small one?
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I legitimately am laughing. At no point was I angry, none. Expert? Naw, but I have been around this whole thing long enough to get a very good idea of what this "sport" is like. You have guys prostituting themselves off for their drug habit, guys dealing and then telling everyone how ethical and nice they are (while scamming the newbies at the gym), these same guys telling people that they have "great genetics" and thats how they got so big. I won't even go into the what the women do.
It's cool, dude. He called me angry too! I mean as you can see, we are all absolutely furious over this thread. Just foaming at the fucking mouth, waiting for someone to say "Hey that guy Kevin might be a nice dude, and he's absoluteltoodley a fantastical bodybuilder" so we can rip out their throats. CLEARLY we're getting all worked up over it. I am actually salivating just remembering how someone defended Kevin's physique and I disagreed with a scream and a bloodbath.
...Or not. What a fucking idiot. Krank, don't respond to this moron.
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Kevin English has a physique lacking in striations, but has an abundance of lumps and bumps.
Back in the 90s, his physique was far better, and then the forth delt head surfaced, and then he went under, became a pariah of sorts...
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Correa has certain structural problems, ie T-Rex arms...it should be between him or Henry.
Jose is a mess, a total mess, no shape, odd size, just looks odd.
and a long-ass torso, but at least he doesn't have child-bearing hips :D :D :D
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It's cool, dude. He called me angry too! I mean as you can see, we are all absolutely furious over this thread. Just foaming at the fucking mouth, waiting for someone to say "Hey that guy Kevin might be a nice dude, and he's absoluteltoodley a fantastical bodybuilder" so we can rip out their throats. CLEARLY we're getting all worked up over it. I am actually salivating just remembering how someone defended Kevin's physique and I disagreed with a scream and a bloodbath.
...Or not. What a fucking idiot. Krank, don't respond to this moron.
God I hate it when a woman is right >:(
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THis is great news for the other 212 guys
Jeez....that's a huge stage lineup. ;D
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Flex should win his shape is superior to Correa.
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Kevin English looks like shit, just like Branch. Both should never be allowed to compete in the Mr. O.
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He actually does train with his P.T.
The other gentleman I don't know of.
His last couple of wins where close and debatable,but, that is the nature of this "sport"
He conducts himself like a pro, very approachable, very polite and very impressive to see train, he is massive for his size if that makes sense.
Many pictures are here of all the competitors, not many when they are next to each other, looking at a single physique does not tell the entire story. Back in the day Ferrigno used to stand next to objects, cars etc to show how big he was, when he got next to another bodybuilder he was always taller but not always bigger or better.
Side by side is the best way to determine who looks best.
Hopefully this year's winner can compete in 2013 against English and that should make for some more interest from the fans.
By the way English will be 39 or so by then, how do most competitors look at that age after competing for 20 years?
He won the Nationals in 1994.
It is easy to be critical here, many like to try to bring down others because of their own shortcomings, to bad. I would rather congratulate him on his wins at least he has accomplished something within this "sport"
hi kevin
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good thing he sat out he should sit out the rest of his career guy looks terrible still cant believe he beat flex lewis i hope its between lewis n eduardo that will be a good match to see
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God I hate it when a woman is right >:(
Sadly you both are perfect examples that it doesn't take brains to lift weights and take steroids, good luck. ::)
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Sadly you both are perfect examples that it doesn't take brains to lift weights and take steroids, good luck. ::)
How thin is the air up there when you stand on your soapbox in that ivory tower you live in?
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How thin is the air up there when you stand on your soapbox in that ivory tower you live in?
As thin as your lat spread ;D
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How thin is the air up there when you stand on your soapbox in that ivory tower you live in?
I don't understand why anyone is arguing with a dude with less than 100 posts. If I were here trolling, insulting people, acting like I've been omnipresent through the entire history of bodybuilding, and on top of it all, saying that anyone who disagrees with me must have a temper problem, drug problem, and a general lack of intelligence, would it be tolerated?
What has this asshat contributed that warrants your aggravation? Ugh.
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I don't understand why anyone is arguing with a dude with less than 100 posts. If I were here trolling, insulting people, acting like I've been omnipresent through the entire history of bodybuilding, and on top of it all, saying that anyone who disagrees with me must have a temper problem, drug problem, and a general lack of intelligence, would it be tolerated?
What has this asshat contributed that warrants your aggravation? Ugh.
How many posts do you have Einstein?? Didn't you advise Krank to ignore me?? Why don't you do the same?? When you revert to name calling and trying to insult people that would be considered polite??
I didn't say anyone who disagreed with me had a temper problem, drug problem and a general lack of intelligence, although that description seems to fit you well.
What would you like to know, please ask so I may be able to contribute to this sit in a way that makes you happy.
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Sadly you both are perfect examples that it doesn't take brains to lift weights and take steroids, good luck. ::)
Kind of hard to argue with the logic that it doesn't take brains to do both. Seriously. You have a point, but when it pertains to me and taking steroids I have this to say. Perhaps you are too blinded by your own ego that you glossed over the fact that I competed for 20+ years WITHOUT them. I am also only on HRT doses (200mg/wk test cyp). Have only been on them for under 2yrs. Hmmm, great logic their chief. Perhaps you would like to try again?
You actually like glossing over a lot of things. I do not judge that someone takes the drugs, but hey...lets be real...bodybuilding today is NOTHING MORE than chemical warfare. The test, GH, Insulin, recreational drugs, pain killers, etc that these guys (and women) use is crazy. Why do you think so few of these guys look halfway decent after they "retire"?
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How many posts do you have Einstein?? Didn't you advise Krank to ignore me?? Why don't you do the same?? When you revert to name calling and trying to insult people that would be considered polite??
I didn't say anyone who disagreed with me had a temper problem, drug problem and a general lack of intelligence, although that description seems to fit you well.
What would you like to know, please ask so I may be able to contribute to this sit in a way that makes you happy.
Correct me if I am wrong, your follow comment contradicts what you said above:
Sadly you both are perfect examples that it doesn't take brains to lift weights and take steroids, good luck. ::)
You are insinuating we do not have brains. Right?
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Kind of hard to argue with the logic that it doesn't take brains to do both. Seriously. You have a point, but when it pertains to me and taking steroids I have this to say. Perhaps you are too blinded by your own ego that you glossed over the fact that I competed for 20+ years WITHOUT them. I am also only on HRT doses (200mg/wk test cyp). Have only been on them for under 2yrs. Hmmm, great logic their chief. Perhaps you would like to try again?
You actually like glossing over a lot of things. I do not judge that someone takes the drugs, but hey...lets be real...bodybuilding today is NOTHING MORE than chemical warfare. The test, GH, Insulin, recreational drugs, pain killers, etc that these guys (and women) use is crazy. Why do you think so few of these guys look halfway decent after they "retire"?
You are cranky,lol
I saw you mentioned you competed 20yrs without drugs, very good and well done. I can't be sure why you think you need Test now, a 300 is actually ok, but, whatever works for you. Do you have any idea what your level was 20 years ago, has it dropped, was it ever high normal?? Back in the 60's - late 80's all one needed was a script from a doc and off to the pharmacy they would go, the the gov. got involved and all changed.
On a serious note tell me the differences you feel on the meds and how old you are and weight gain/change. I am actually interested.
Bodybuilding is over/dead and like I said before Haney retired, Yate ruined it worldwide and Palumbo ruined it locally, what a shame.
Look at the line up for 1980-1990 Nationals, and look at the mess that lines up these days
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You are cranky,lol
I saw you mentioned you competed 20yrs without drugs, very good and well done. I can't be sure why you think you need Test now, a 300 is actually ok, but, whatever works for you. Do you have any idea what your level was 20 years ago, has it dropped, was it ever high normal?? Back in the 60's - late 80's all one needed was a script from a doc and off to the pharmacy they would go, the the gov. got involved and all changed.
On a serious note tell me the differences you feel on the meds and how old you are and weight gain/change. I am actually interested.
Bodybuilding is over/dead and like I said before Haney retired, Yate ruined it worldwide and Palumbo ruined it locally, what a shame.
Look at the line up for 1980-1990 Nationals, and look at the mess that lines up these days
That would be Kranky....thanks.
You can't be sure why I think I needed it? Joint pain, lower sex drive than I was used to. Ended up networking with a Wellness Clinic near my office and they offered to do a blood test. The doctor recommended it, so I figured why not. I have NO idea. Never had it tested prior to this. I have said this before, but all I have ever done prior to this was two bottles of pH's back in late 90's.
Honestly, I felt a lot when i first started (100mg/wk). After a year it felt like it declined. I didn't gain massive strength or anything. In fact, if I had to guess I have gained only a minimum amount of strength being on that. I walked away from bodybuilding and enjoy staying leaner and eating the shittier foods (as logged in my thread on the training log board) a couple of times a week. I walk around at 205 or so during the week. I think I jump to 212 after my sunday cheat. I don't recall having ever weighed myself on monday morning. By the time I get to my clinic I have done 30mins of cardio (sweating a shit load), taking a HUGE dump (thanks metamucil), and farting a lot...HA HA.
I think we are seeing eye to with you writing the stuff about the early guys. This bullshit now is disgusting. NOTHING to do with lifting.
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That would be Kranky....thanks.
You can't be sure why I think I needed it? Joint pain, lower sex drive than I was used to. Ended up networking with a Wellness Clinic near my office and they offered to do a blood test. The doctor recommended it, so I figured why not. I have NO idea. Never had it tested prior to this. I have said this before, but all I have ever done prior to this was two bottles of pH's back in late 90's.
Honestly, I felt a lot when i first started (100mg/wk). After a year it felt like it declined. I didn't gain massive strength or anything. In fact, if I had to guess I have gained only a minimum amount of strength being on that. I walked away from bodybuilding and enjoy staying leaner and eating the shittier foods (as logged in my thread on the training log board) a couple of times a week. I walk around at 205 or so during the week. I think I jump to 212 after my sunday cheat. I don't recall having ever weighed myself on monday morning. By the time I get to my clinic I have done 30mins of cardio (sweating a shit load), taking a HUGE dump (thanks metamucil), and farting a lot...HA HA.
I think we are seeing eye to with you writing the stuff about the early guys. This bullshit now is disgusting. NOTHING to do with lifting.
Krank, what are your levels now? Has the HRT raised them? Just keep a close eye on your lipids and HDL/LDL ratio etc...
Vasc.
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WHO? ???
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EGYxJoinoJI/0.jpg)
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EGYxJoinoJI/0.jpg)
Someone needs to put together that poster with the gamut of emotions and Kevin's face on it.
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Yes?
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RIp Kevin Micheal Clarke Duncan English
(http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/michael-clarke-duncan-592x410.jpg)
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What are those nasty ass black spots all over Kevin's body??
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EGYxJoinoJI/0.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/1z6y2xu.jpg)
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What are those nasty ass black spots all over Kevin's body??
Blemishes...
Also, he has no eyebrows...