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Libya militias storm US consulate over 'insulting' film Continue reading the main story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19562692
Militiamen in Libya have stormed the US consulate in Benghazi, the country's second largest city.
Reports say they were protesting against a US-made film that is allegedly insulting to the Prophet Muhammad, and set fire to the building.
The building is said to have burnt down. It is thought nobody was in the consulate at the time.
Earlier, protesters in Egypt breached the wall at the US embassy in Cairo and tore down a flag over the film.
The film that sparked the protest is said to have been produced by US pastor Terry Jones and co-produced by some Egyptian Copt expatriates.
Egyptian protesters condemned what they said was the humiliation of the Prophet of Islam under the pretext of freedom of speech.
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Another obama victory on parade.
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I wonder where 180, Andre, Benny, blackass and the rest of the moronos are now to cheer this on.
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UPDATED: Mob sets fire to US consulate in Benghazi: witness
AFP, Tuesday 11 Sep 2012
UPDATE 3: Egypt protesters torch US embassy flag, demand apology for anti-Islam film
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/52597/World/International/Mob-sets-fire-to-US-consulate-in-Benghazi-witness.aspx
An armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam, attacked the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Tuesday and set fire to the building, witnesses reported.
The attack happened on the same day as a similar group of hardliners waving black banners attacked the US embassy in Cairo and tore down the US flag, but it was not immediately clear if the two incidents were coordinated.
The protests came on the eleventh anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001, when US cities were targeted by hijacked planes.
"Demonstrators attacked the US consulate in Benghazi. They fired shots in the air before entering the building," Libya's deputy interior minister, Wanis al-Sharif Sharif, who is in charge of the country's eastern region, told AFP.
"Dozens of demonstrators attacked the consulate and set fire to it," said a Benghazi resident, who only gave his name as Omar, adding that he had seen the flames and heard shots in the vicinity.
Contacted by AFP, a US State Department official in Washington said US officials were still seeking information about the situation in Benghazi.
Asked whether the attack in Libya and the earlier demonstration against the US mission in Egypt could be connected, the official said it was unclear yet if the protests had been coordinated.
Another Libyan witness said armed men had closed the streets leading up to the consulate, among them ultra-conservative Salafists.
The Libyan incident came as thousands of Egyptian demonstrators tore down the Stars and Stripes at the US embassy in Cairo and replaced it with a black Islamic flag, similar to one adopted by several militant groups.
Nearly 3,000 demonstrators gathered at the embassy in protest over a film deemed offensive to the Prophet Mohammed which was produced by expatriate members of Egypt's Christian minority resident in the United States.
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Here we go, gee I wonder why they decided to do this today ::)
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Here we go, gee I wonder why they decided to do this today ::)
Remember when Andre was crying in tears of joy over obama handling this?
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Lol. ::)
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Here we go, gee I wonder why they decided to do this today ::)
Perhaps because Pastor redneck decided to do it now?
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Perhaps because Pastor redneck decided to do it now?
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If I had a Koran near me I would take a shit on it and douse it in pigs blood and then set it ablaze.
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^Very intelligent. Congratulations. You are a backward medieval european who has yet to learn to read books.
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Perhaps because Pastor redneck decided to do it now?
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That picture is 2 years old
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^Very intelligent. Congratulations. You are a backward medieval european who has yet to learn to read books.
Enjoy
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I do not have pissing fetish. Maybe you do.
I tend to use books for reading and learning.
You are only missing out on the mercy of God and accruing bad deeds against people for which you'll be judged when you face God Almighty.
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Sounds like its time to stomp a mudhole in another Muslim shithole country.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/libya-us-consulate_n_1875390.html
Leftists in denial.
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US Staffer killed in the fighting. Obama likely to speak at 11 about how it's the staffer's fault. ::)
These little bitches and their one-way street tolerance really take the piss.
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Didn't america kill according to official ::) estimates 50,000 people when it attacked Libya?
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US official dies in Libya consulate attack in Benghazi
BBC News ^ | September 11, 2012
Posted on September 11, 2012 10:07:24 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
An American has been killed and at least one other wounded after militiamen stormed the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi, officials say.
It is believed the protest was held over a US-produced film that is said to be insulting to the Prophet Muhammad.
The building was set on fire after armed men raided the compound with grenades.
Protests have also been held at the US embassy in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.
In the attack in Benghazi, unidentified armed men stormed the grounds, shooting at buildings and throwing handmade bombs into the compound.
Security forces returned fire but Libyan officials say they were overwhelmed....
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/libya-us-embassy-death-idUSL5E8KBMQ020120911
Wow. ridiculous.
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/52597/World/International/Mob-sets-fire-to-US-consulate-in-Benghazi-witness.aspx
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US ambassador to Libya killed in embassy attack (Video of his dead body posted on Youtube)
Meed ^ | 9/12/12 | Aaron Greenwood
Posted on September 12, 2012 6:21:45 AM EDT by jimbo123
The American ambassador to Libya and three other US diplomats were killed overnight in an attack on the American consulate in Benghazi by Islamist militants.
Chris Stevens, who had completed several missions to Libya since 2007 and was appointed ambassador in March, was killed by a rocket-propelled grenade launched by gunmen from Islamist group, Ansar al Sharia, according to a Reuters report.
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The consulate was set on fire in the attack, while video footage of a lifeless Caucasian man thought to be Stevens, later appeared on YouTube.
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US envoy dies in Benghazi consulate attack (4 dead)
Al Jazeera ^
Posted on September 12, 2012 5:48:41 AM EDT by nuconvert
The US ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, has died from smoke inhalation in an attack on the US consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, security sources have told Al Jazeera.
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The ambassador was paying a short visit to Benghazi when the consulate came under attack on Tuesday night,
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He died of suffocation during the attack, along with two US security personnel who were accompanying him, security sources told Al Jazeera. Another consulate employee, whose nationality could not immediately be confirmed, was also killed.
Two other staffers were injured,
(Excerpt) Read more at aljazeera.com ...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?_r=1&emc=na
Liberal piece of trash already blaming the film maker. LMFAO - how typical of these pieces of garbage.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?_r=1&emc=na
Liberal piece of trash already blaming the film maker. LMFAO - how typical of these pieces of garbage.
The film maker shares some of the responsibility for this....he knew that it would provoke the fanatics out there.
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The film maker shares some of the responsibility for this....he knew that it would provoke the fanatics out there.
STFU. Those animals and muslim sand nigs always have an excuse.
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STFU. Those animals and muslim sand nigs always have an excuse.
well i'm glad you changed your stance and it's not obamas fault
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well i'm glad you changed your stance and it's not obamas fault
Obama is to blame for putting them in power and sending them $$$$$$$$
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STFU. Those animals and muslim sand nigs always have an excuse.
Im with you 100% on this one.
Somehow only Muslims and their supporters can justify killings with they were provoked.
Its another set of rules for them for some reason
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STFU. Those animals and muslim sand nigs always have an excuse.
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The murder of the US ambassador to Libya is a wake-up call for Obama
By Con Coughlin
WorldLast updated: September 12th, 2012
The murder of the US ambassador and three consulate staff in the Libyan city of Benghazi should act as an urgent wake-up call to President Barack Obama to address America's security concerns properly, rather than trying to avoid them all the time.
Ever since Mr Obama entered the White House he has tried to position himself as a politician who has no interest in getting involved in overseas conflicts. Having withdrawn American forces from Iraq and ordered the withdrawal of US combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, he has tried to appease his Democrat supporters by making sure that he steered well clear of involvement in any of the world's other trouble spots.
On crucial security issues such as Iran, Libya and Syria he has deliberately taken a back seat, rather than providing the strong and effective leadership the world has come to expect from a major superpower. As a result a dangerous power vacuum has been created with those, such as the group responsible for the well-planned attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, believing they can act with impunity.
But with the American presidential election only two months away, the murder of four American diplomats could be a game changer so far as Mr Obama's re-election prospects are concerned.
During the 2008 contest Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama's main rival for the Democratic nomination, used to tease him about the "red telephone moment", when the president is awoken in the middle of the night to deal with an international crisis. Mr Obama would have received that call last night and how he responds to it could ultimately decide the outcome of the election.
Mr Obama likes to portray himself as a cool, hip and media -riendly president. But the job demands much more than that, and unless he is careful Mr Obama will end up being viewed like his Democratic predecessor President Jimmy Carter, another well-meaning do-gooder, who was eventually exposed as weak and ineffectual, and paid for it by being unceremoniously dumped out of office by the great American public.
Unless he starts to provide strong leadership and gets a firm grip on national security, Mr Obama will suffer the same fate.
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STFU. Those animals and muslim sand nigs always have an excuse.
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Great job obama is doing no?
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ALGERIA_US_EMBASSY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-12-07-23-29
Here we go - this bullshit is spreading now.
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Great job obama is doing no?
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Mike Barnicle Suggests Prosecuting Pastor Terry Jones In American Ambassador's Death
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:19:53 AM
Mike Barnicle has suggested that the Department of Justice consider prosecuting Florida pastor Terry Jones in the death of the American ambassador to Egypt and deaths occurring during riots last year in Afghanistan. Hat tip readers Melody, Jonathan R., Ray R.
Barnicle made his suggestion on today's Morning Joe, during a discussion of the attacks on the American embassy in Egypt and the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, where the American ambassador died after an attack by an Libyan mob. Fellow panelist Donny Deutsch responded by saying he was "thinking the same thing" as Barnicle.
View the video here.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
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Obama Camp Condemns Romney Before Condemning Attacks in Egypt, Libya
Breitbart ^ | September 12, 2012 | John Nolte
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:49:37 AM by Unam Sanctam
At 11:53pm last night Talking Points Memo released a statement from the Obama campaign condemning Mitt Romney for criticizing something the White House itself disavowed -- an appalling apology issued by the State Department.
Eight hours later, President Obama finally got around to condemning the monsters who attacked us on our own soil and killed our fellow citizens.
Yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of September 11, the Obama White House snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, accepted an invitation from David Letterman, and apologized to Islamists upset over a film that mocks Islam and Mohammed -- something "artists" in America do to Christianity with my tax dollars on a fairly regular basis.
First off: Why is our Embassy apologizing for a film no one has seen and apologizing for freedom of speech and expression? In a word, that's un-American. And let's remember that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton doubled down on the apology. Last night, though, the White House finally disavowed the apology, but now the hypocritical and wildly dishonest Obama campaign is lashing out at Mitt Romney for being critical of the same apology the White House itself disavowed.
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LMFAO!!!!
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your all being set up, throw out your television!
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Are you fucking kidding me, mother fuckers at it again desecrating the people the killed. There better be a response to this bullshit.
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Are you fucking kidding me, mother fuckers at it again desecrating the people the killed. There better be a response to this bullshit.
And these are the type of people that many on the left believe that the USA can reason with or even have as allies.
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And these are the type of people that many on the left believe that the USA can reason with or even have as allies.
Obama spent BILLIONS putting these people into power!
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Obama spent BILLIONS putting these people into power!
BIllions? How about trillions!!
How about the entire debt combined?
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Obama spent BILLIONS putting these people into power!
you really think obama has that much power? ok, fine... its obama's fault, I guess its better to have a scapegoat then take any responsibility for the collective ignorance that pervades.
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you really think obama has that much power? ok, fine... its obama's fault, I guess its better to have a scapegoat then take any responsibility for the collective ignorance that pervades.
Yes - Obama is to blame. Remember it was HE, Hillary, Samantha power, and susan Rice who pushed this bullshit.
The lengths obama cultists will go to cover for their messiah is amazing.
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Yes - Obama is to blame. Remember it was HE, Hillary, Samantha power, and susan Rice who pushed this bullshit.
The lengths obama cultists will go to cover for their messiah is amazing.
And the lengths obama haters will go to to is amazing.
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And the lengths obama haters will go to to is amazing.
Sorry douchebag - i back up my arguments and posted about obama collapsing the ME at the time. You were still kneepadding amnd sucking his cock.
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these things are much more complex then you have been lead to believe, when you wake up you will see it clearly. No disrespect.
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Sorry douchebag - i back up my arguments and posted about obama collapsing the ME at the time. You were still kneepadding amnd sucking his cock.
You dont backup shit and you know it. Worst lawyer ever!!
And talk about sucking cock get the GOP's out of your mouth fag.
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You dont backup shit and you know it. Worst lawyer ever!!
And talk about sucking cock get the GOP's out of your mouth fag.
Whatever moron - this is yet another example of obama cultists and drones falling flat on their faces once again.
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Whatever moron - this is yet another example of obama cultists and drones falling flat on their faces once again.
No this is an example of a GOP cucksucker who should get a job instead of his 95.000 posts.
Move out of your moms basement and start contributing to society then lets talk again
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Marine unit dispatched to secure consulate in Benghazi after deadly attacks
FoxNews.com ^ | September 12, 2012
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:21:36 AM by Hunton Peck
A team of about 50 Marines has been dispatched to the Libyan city of Benghazi to secure the U.S. Consulate after attacks Tuesday left four Americans dead including the U.S. ambassador, a senior U.S. military official told Fox News.
The official said a Marine "fast team" is being sent from the U.S. Naval base in Rota, Spain. They are not yet on the ground.
The move comes after President Obama ordered "all necessary resources" provided to Libya to support the security of U.S. personnel in the country.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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How murder of U.S. ambassador to Libya plunges Obama's re-election campaign into crisis
Daily Mail UK ^ | 09/12/2012 | Toby Harnden
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:15:35 AM
The Obama administration is engulfed in a full-blown foreign policy crisis just two months before the presidential election with the two campaigns trading angry accusations over events in Libya, Egypt and Israel.
Footage of the body of Christopher Stevens, United States ambassador to Libya, slung over the back of a protester, was reminiscent of the 1993 'Black Hawk Down' incident in Somalia in 1993 when militia fighters lynched American aircrew in the streets of Mogadishu.
President Barack Obama's staff will also be mindful that a shadow was cast over Jimmy Carter's presidency by the Iranian hostage crisis after the US embassy in Tehran was stormed by Islamist extremists following the Iranian revolution.
A year after the 52 Americans were taken hostage, Carter lost the 1980 election. The hostages were released just as President Ronald Reagan, who defeated Carter, was sworn in.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
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Marine unit dispatched to secure consulate in Benghazi after deadly attacks
FoxNews.com ^ | September 12, 2012
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:21:36 AM by Hunton Peck
A team of about 50 Marines has been dispatched to the Libyan city of Benghazi to secure the U.S. Consulate after attacks Tuesday left four Americans dead including the U.S. ambassador, a senior U.S. military official told Fox News.
The official said a Marine "fast team" is being sent from the U.S. Naval base in Rota, Spain. They are not yet on the ground.
The move comes after President Obama ordered "all necessary resources" provided to Libya to support the security of U.S. personnel in the country.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
About fucking time, I'd be happier with a fucking battalion, but a FAST team will have to suffice.
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CBS: Libyan security team fingered US ambassador to be killed; Libyan president issues apology
Hotair ^ | 09/12/2012 | Ed Morrissey
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:21:08 AM
In the confusion surrounding the murders of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya yesterday, the Libyan government --- which exists due to the military intervention of the US and NATO --- initially left the impression that loyalists to dead dictator Moammar Qaddafi conducted the assassinations. CBS, however, now reports that the Libyan government has changed its tune. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and the other diplomatic personnel got moved to another building by Libyan security forces when the consulate was attacked, and then betrayed by them to the attackers:
Military officials told CBS News an anti-terrorism team of U.S. Marines was being deployed to Libya to help secure U.S. interests in the country following the attack. The State Department said, however, that no Americans were remaining at the facility in Benghazi. State officials would not confirm how many Americans were evacuated, or to where.
Wanis al-Sharef, a Libyan Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said the four Americans were killed when the angry mob, which gathered to protest a U.S.-made film that ridicules Islam’s Prophet Muhammad, fired guns and burned down the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
He said Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building, deemed safer, after the initial wave of protests at the consulate. According to al-Sharef, members of the Libyan security team seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated, and that building then came under attack.
Stevens, 52, was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.
The dispatch of more Marines to Libya comes a little late, writes Michael Patrick Leahy at Breitbart, who wonders why the US didn’t have more Marines stationed at this mission in the first place. Or did they have any?
Security at the consulate was apparently provided by Libyan nationals hired by the United States. While security for American embassies is typically provided by our own Marines, the two Marines reported killed in yesterday’s attacks appear not to have been stationed at the embassy, but were sent there from another unknown location as the violence erupted. There is also no indication if these two Marines were the only American military personnel on site at the time of Ambassador Stevens’s death.
All reports indicate that the security forces at the consulate were overwhelmed by the size of the militant crowds and offered no resistance as they stormed the building, looted it, and killed the four Americans.
As the facts surrounding the destruction of the American consulate and death of Ambassador Stevens become known, investigators will focus on these question: Did the State Department provide adequate security for our embassy staff there? If not, why not?
And finally, the most important question of all: Where were the Marines?
We’d better get those answers quickly … perhaps as quickly as tomorrow. The Muslim Brotherhood, which now controls Egypt, has called for a “peaceful protest” on Friday throughout all the country — and wants “all national forces” to participate in it:
Egypt’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood on Wednesday called for nationwide protests Friday after a film deemed offensive to Islam sparked a deadly attack in Libya and furious protests in Cairo.
The Brotherhood calls “for peaceful protests on Friday outside all the main mosques in all of Egypt’s provinces to denounce offenses to religion and to the Prophet,” the Muslim Brotherhood’s Secretary General Mahmud Hussein said in a statement.
He also urged all “national forces to join the protests.”
The Muslim Brotherhood, from which President Mohammed Morsi emerged, is the largest and most organized political force in the country.
We’d better figure out our security in Cairo ASAP, or get our people out of there. This is going downhill fast, and the weak-sauce responses from the Obama administration is very clearly not dissuading radicals from their purpose.
Update: Libya’s interim president, Mohammed el-Megarif, issued an explicit apology for the murders of Stevens and the three other Americans:
Mohammed el-Megarif described the attack as “cowardly” and offered his condolences on the death of Ambassador Chris Stevensand the three other Americans. Speaking to reporters, he vowed to bring the culprits to justice and maintain his country’s close relations with the United States. He said the three Americans were security guards. ….
“We extend our apology to America, the American people and the whole world,” el-Megarif said.
Contrast that with the silence coming from Egypt’s leadership after the attack on the US embassy.
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“We extend our apology to America, the American people and the whole world,” el-Megarif said.
Now the government of Libya is directly involved in this, now it is an act of war.
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obamas-going-las-vegas
unreal.
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Obama Presser on Attacks on US on 9/11/12
Fox News Live | 9/12/12
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:50:48 AM
Obama at the teleprompter now.
We will seek the people responsible.
Libyans acted responsibly by carrying Steven's body to the hospital.
It takes courage to bond with the revolutionaries that over-threw Gaddafi.
The young diplomats of the US in Libya were courageous and their legacies will live on far from our shores.
yesterday was already a painful day -- 9/11 -- I was at the graves of those who gave their lives in that tragedy and I visited the wounded at Walter Reed.
Freedom is only free when people lay-down their lives for it, both civilian and military.
No acts of terrorism will ever shake this great nation.
Today we mourn for four brave Americans.
Make no mistake -- justice will be done!
These four Americans stood-up for freedom and the hope that our flag represents.
Let us join with them in seeking peace.
-- Obama walks of stage --
Reporter shouts: "Mr. President, is this an act of war?" Obama walks away, will answer no questions.
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They are carrying him to the hospital ::)
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Animals.
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These are American animals:
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Bombing schools, hospitals killing hundreds of thousands of people:
Results of America:
(http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/images_4/us_terror_state__/iraq_children_injured_by_us_bombing.jpe)
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They are carrying him to the hospital ::)
That's what Obama and the media want us to believe.
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Bombing schools, hospitals killing hundreds of thousands of people:
Results of America:
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I like it. Maybe next time some one comes up the ignorant idea to slam jets into skyscrapers killing thousands of innocent people they might think twice.
Or maybe not, Muslims in the ME aren't very high on the advanced civilization scale ATM.
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Lets for sake of argument agree that it was not your government or israel that did 911. Lets say muslims did it. Some 2000 people died.
You killed over a million people and started war in SEVEN COUNTRIES and you want to start MORE WARS.
Are you fucking brain dead?
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Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 -- 1:16 PM EDT
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Obama Administration Officials Say Attack in Libya May Have Been Planned
The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday.
Officials in Washington studying the events of the past 24 hours have focused on the differences between the protests on the American embassy in Cairo and the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, the Libyan city where Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and the other Americans were killed.
The protesters in Cairo appeared to be a genuinely spontaneous unarmed mob angered by an anti-Islam video produced in the United States. By contrast, it appeared the attackers in Benghazi were armed with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. Intelligence reports are inconclusive at this point, officials said, but indications suggest the possibility that an organized group had either been waiting for an opportunity to exploit like the protests over the video or perhaps even generated the protests as a cover for their attack.
Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?emc=na
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Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, September 12, 2012 -- 1:16 PM EDT
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Obama Administration Officials Say Attack in Libya May Have Been Planned
The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday.
Officials in Washington studying the events of the past 24 hours have focused on the differences between the protests on the American embassy in Cairo and the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, the Libyan city where Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and the other Americans were killed.
The protesters in Cairo appeared to be a genuinely spontaneous unarmed mob angered by an anti-Islam video produced in the United States. By contrast, it appeared the attackers in Benghazi were armed with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. Intelligence reports are inconclusive at this point, officials said, but indications suggest the possibility that an organized group had either been waiting for an opportunity to exploit like the protests over the video or perhaps even generated the protests as a cover for their attack.
Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?emc=na
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No shit. Like it was a coincidence it happened on 9/11
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Lets for sake of argument agree that it was not your government or israel that did 911. Lets say muslims did it. Some 2000 people died.
You killed over a million people and started war in SEVEN COUNTRIES and you want to start MORE WARS.
Are you fucking brain dead?
I don't need to say for argument sake that it wasn't the USA or Israel the did 9/11, the EVIDENCE DOES!
As far as killing over a million people.... facts say otherwise.
I will give you that the Iraq war was wrong, I was always against it, but in the end, Saddam who was RAPING muslims was removed.
During that process, your Muslims had no problem suicide bombing local markets and killing hundreds.
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Report: Drones headed to Libya
politico ^ | 9/12/12 | DONOVAN SLACK
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:26:10 PM
A senior U.S. official tells CNN that U.S. unmanned surveillance drones are expected to begin flying over Benghazai and other locations in eastern Libya to look for jihadi encampments and targets that may be tied to the attack on U.S. State Department personnel. The proposal for use of drones is expected to be approved shortly by the Pentagon and the White House, CNN's Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr reported. The official said the plan is for U.S. surveillance drones to gather the intelligence and then hand it off to the Libyans to strike the targets.
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This is tragic. A colossal foreign policy failure.
Animals.
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This is tragic. A colossal foreign policy failure.
Animals.
Hey beach - here is a clue for you - this is not a failuire at all for obama.
For Obama this is what he wants.
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Libyan ambassador blames ex-Qaddafi forces for consulate attacks
Posted By Josh RoginWednesday, September 12, 2012 - 1:10 PM Share
Libya's Ambassador to Washington Ali Aujali said Wednesday that associates of disposed tyrant Muammar al-Qaddafi were behind the Tuesday attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that resulted in the deaths of four American officials, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
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"We know that Qaddafi's associates are in Libya. Of course, they took this chance to infiltrate among the people," Aujali said in today in an interview. His claim contradicts most reports, which place the blame on radical Islamist groups that claimed to be reacting to an obscure American film they viewed as insulting to Islam.
Aujali said that the Libyan government has intelligence that unspecified Qaddafi forces were involved.
"I think it is not clear who [the attackers] are exactly but I am sure they were infiltrated by these people. They still have money. They still have support in countries like Tunisia and Mauritania and other countries who work together with them and finance these kinds of terrorists attacks."
His claim was viewed with skepticism in Washington, where analysts said Aujali's statements fit a pattern of the Libyan government refusing to confront the hundreds of militias that remain powerful, heavily armed, and beyond the reach of the law.
"The Libyan government has been blaming amorphous pro-Qaddafi elements for everything that goes wrong in their country," said Tom Malinowski, Washington director of Human Rights Watch. "It's a way of denying the hard truth that the biggest threat they face to their hopes for democracy and the rule of law comes from among their own fellow former revolutionaries."
The Libyan government has failed to respond to a series of provocations by these groups, Malinowski said.
"The responsibility for this crime falls squarely on the people who perpetrated it and on the Libyan authorities, who have failed thus far to rein in armed elements that defy the law in Libya with impunity, whether by destroying Sufi shrines, attacking aid groups, or now murdering a U.S. ambassador," he said. "The majority of Libyans are not responsible for this, but they are responsible for stopping it by confronting these armed groups once and for all."
Aujali also said that the Libya government didn't have any direct advance knowledge of the attack and pledged that the Libyan government would work closely with the U.S. government to investigate the incident.
Aujali emphasized that the Libyan people are grateful for American support and he expressed confidence that the U.S.-Libya relationship would be maintained.
The Libyan government's failure to protect the consulate is due to a lack of resources and progress in rebuilding the security infrastructure in Benghazi, he said.
"Qaddafi left no intstitions. We have no army, no police forces. We have to build everything from zero, unfortunately. We still need some time," he said.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/12/libyan_ambassador_blames_ex_qaddafi_forces_for_consulate_attacks
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How did they get to the Ambassador? I don't know anything about this particular embassy complex and security but it seems like they could have held the mob off easily? At least until backup could arrive?
They had RPG's and Guns? ???
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How did they get to the Ambassador? I don't know anything about this particular embassy complex and security but it seems like they could have held the mob off easily? At least until backup could arrive?
They had RPG's and Guns? ???
The lybian security detail tol the mob of animals where he was.
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Obama condemns embassy attackers, critics of Islam in statement
9:14 AM 09/12/2012
President Barack Obama on Wednesday “strongly condemned” the Islamist attack that killed four American diplomats in Libya, but he also used the same statement to condemn Americans’ criticism of Islam.
“While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants,” he said in a 7:21 a.m. statement.
The attack in Libya came as Islamists also broke into the U.S. embassy in Egypt, and marks the growing clout of popular Islamist groups following the U.S.-backed removal of those countries’ authoritarian governments.
Obama’s two-sided message came only a few hours after Gov. Mitt Romney accused him of sympathizing with the Islamists who attacked the U.S diplomatic sites on the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2011 attack by other Islamists that killed 3,000 Americans.
“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt,” Romney said. But, he added, it “is disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,” said his late-night Sept. 11 statement.
Romney’s sharp statement came after news reports revealed that the Cairo embassy tried to appease a planned Sept. 11 protest which was called by Islamists who oppose any criticism of Islam in any country.
The Islamist protestors occupied part of the embassy, and tore down the U.S. flag. They said they were angry about a movie being shot in California that highlights many damaging statements and actions attributed by orthodox Muslims to Islam’s 7th century prophet, Muhammad.
Shortly before the protest began, the embassy condemned the movie’s Californian producers for “abuse” of the United States Constitution’s First Amendment.
“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,” said the embassy statement.
That statement was reportedly repudiated late last night by a White House official. “The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” an administration official said, according to Politico.
However, Obama has previously condemned U.S. critics of Islam.
In 2011, Islamists in northern Afghanistan went on a rampage and murdered several locals and aid-workers after a U.S. pastor, Terry Jones, burned a copy of the Koran book. Earlier, the President of the United States used the power of his office to deter the pastor of the little-known church in Florida from burning copies of the Koran book.
“The idea that we would burn the sacred texts of someone else’s religion… is contrary to what this nation is founded upon, and my hope is that this individual prays on its and refrains from doing it,” Obama said during a September 2010 press conference in the White House.
“We’ve got an obligation to send a very clear message [to Americans that this kind of behavior or threats of action put our young men and women in harms way,.. this is a way of endangering our troops, our sons and daughters, fathers, mothers, husbands and wives,” he insisted, without condemning people who threaten to kill Americans if their favored books are burned.
In recent years, Islamists have threatened and attacked numerous critics of Islam. For example, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris went underground in 2010 after Islamists threatened her for urging cartoonists to defy Islamic objections to the ridicule of Islam’s prophet, Muhammad. In 2012, an American Muslim convert was sentenced to 11 years in jail for threatening to attack the producers of the “South Park” cartoon.
Around the Mediterranean, the growing role of popular Islamist movements is eclipsing the threat posed by the non-government Al Qaeda Islamist group, and seems set to spur many conflicts with the U.S.
However, the attacks on the embassies may also create difficulties for Obama’s reelection, just as the rise of Islamists in Iran during President Jimmy Carter’s term helped cause his loss in the 1980 election. Carter did not oppose the Iranian Islamists’ power grab, and they subsequently took hostage the staff of the U.S. embassy in Tehran.
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The lybian security detail tol the mob of animals where he was.
I thought these Embassies had a dozen Marines with M16s or so though? Just seems like this kind of thing couldn't happen unless someone was completely negligent on security.
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I thought these Embassies had a dozen Marines with M16s or so though? Just seems like this kind of thing couldn't happen unless someone was completely negligent on security.
Until recently soldiers couldn't carry loaded weapons in FOB's, you think the ROE's are any better at an embassy?
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Until recently soldiers couldn't carry loaded weapons in FOB's, you think the ROE's are any better at an embassy?
That's fucked, are you serious?
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So looks like your israeli friends are backstabbing Americans yet again and the idiot moron redneck pastor Terry Jones probably got a good bucket load of cash in spreading hate and misleading garbage against Muslims while he's at it.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4280316,00.html
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American killed in Libya attack; Israeli filmmaker in hiding
Protesters angered over film that ridicules Islam's Prophet Mohammed shot dead an American official at US embassy in Benghazi; Jewish Israeli filmmaker goes into hiding
Associated Press
Published: 09.12.12, 08:43 / Israel News
Protesters in Egypt and Libya attacked US diplomatic missions on Tuesday in a spasm of violence that led to the death of a State Department officer at the consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi after fierce clashes at the compound.
The violence in Benghazi followed protests in neighboring Egypt where protesters scaled the walls of the Cairo embassy and tore down the American flag and burned it during protests over what demonstrators said was a US film that insulted the Prophet Mohammed.
Related stories:
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Egypt: 76 convicted for attack on Israeli Embassy
Following the spasm of attacks, the filmmaker, who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, has gone into hiding.
Writer and director Sam Bacile spoke on the phone Tuesday from an unidentified location. He remained defiant, saying Islam is "a cancer" and he wanted his film to make a political statement.
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Protesters outside US embassy in Cairo
The 56-year-old says he believes his video will help his native land by exposing Islam's flaws to the world. Excerpts dubbed into Arabic were posted on YouTube.
Among other claims that have caused outrage, the film claims Mohammed was a philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse.
Bacile says he's sorry for the person who died, but blames lax embassy security.
The film that sparked riots
According to the Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors, whom he declined to identify. Working with about 60 actors and 45 crew members, he said he made the two-hour movie in three months last year in California.
The film has been promoted by Dr. Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots around the world, who said Tuesday that he planned to show a 13-minute trailer that night at his church in Gainesville, Fla.
"It is an American production, not designed to attack Muslims but to show the destructive ideology of Islam," he said in a statement. "The movie further reveals in a satirical fashion the life of Muhammad."
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Riots outside US embassy (Photo: AP)
Meanwhile, in wake of the attacks on US diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya, republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney harshly criticized the Obama administration for its response to the attacks.
In a statement Tuesday night, Romney says he's outraged by the attacks. But he calls it "disgraceful" that the Obama administration's first reaction wasn't to condemn the Tuesday attacks but, in Romney's words, "to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."
Earlier in the day, the US Embassy in Cairo issued a statement condemning what it called "continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims," an apparent reference to the video.
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed the death of the US diplomat, who was not identified, and condemned the attack on the Benghazi consulate.
Clinton further expressed concern that the protests might spread to other countries. She said the US is working with "partner countries around the world to protect our personnel, our missions, and American citizens worldwide."
"Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet," Clinton said in a statement released by the State Department. "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."
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Muslims are vile, despicable creatures and among the most primitive of the human race. While they are among the racist and intolerant group of people around, they are also at the same time the most insecure and bitter; hence their need to rape, pillage and murder anytime they feel slighted.
If Islam is so good then why do they all live in squalor and struggle with certain concepts like reading?
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Go and recall your diplomats from Israel.
An Israeli film maker in hiding a US/Israeli citizen, and Terry Pastor Jones a US citizen and that anti-islam extremist copt US Egyptian citizen are inciting hate, division, violence.
Why not deport the Israeli and Egyptian who claim to also have US citizenship?
Where is the outrage? If it was someone advocating hitler, the holocaust and denying the holocaust and making anti-semetic movies there would be an uproar, protests, sanctions, whatever.
Hypocricy.
Oh and Muslims wrote books while europeans burned them. Before you start talking about 'literacy'. America is barely baring for literacy. Being able to read and speak is hardly commendable when American children barely pass school and you have a pathetic weak education system compared to the rest of the world.
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Why should we be outraged? There's this little thing called "freedom of speech" in the West. It's a concept that you Mohammedans are unfamiliar with. This stems from your sexual insecurities and your massive inferiority complexes. ::)
Islamic clerics routinely compare Christians and Jews to apes and pigs (among other things). No one riots or cries about it. You should try again with your next gimmick, SamsonJag.
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Actually its Jews who call christians apes. Haven't you watched Israeli tv? They call Jesus a monkey.
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That's fucked, are you serious?
Yep, with the rash of green on blue killings the ROE has been changed
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Actually its Jews who call christians apes. Haven't you watched Israeli tv? They call Jesus a monkey.
It's in your holy books, pedo.
Muslims are insecure, small-dicked societal misfits. When the oil dries up, you will cease to be relevant.
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This film was financed with the help of a Coptic Christian, who is a true Egyptian and not a foreign, imperialist Mohammedan that crawled out of Medina (where they should go back to).
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No, the qur'an does not call jews and christians apes and pigs. Jews do call Christians apes though.
What the qur'an actually says and means:
The Question: “Does the Qur’an call Jews pigs and apes? And it is allowed for Muslims to do so?”
Answer:
Thanks for your question.:
In the second chapter of the Qur’an there is the story of the people of the Sabbath who failed to abide by Allah’s commands. Thus, according to the Qur’an they were turned into pigs and apes. However, there are a few important points to this story:
1. It does not refer to all the people of the Jewish faith, but only a certain group of people from the followers of Musa.
2. It is not appropriate for one to call people of the Jewish tradition “pigs and apes” or “sons of pigs and apes” since, besides being extremely rude, it is not correct. All major commentators of Quran mention that these pigs and apes did not reproduce but died off. Sh. Yusuf al-Qaradwi noted this mentioning that one should not do so. Finally, Muslims are ordered by Allah to “Speak that which is best” and to “Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom.” Thus, it is not befitting for a Muslim to be lowly in his discourse, rude in his manners and bigoted towards others. Allah says, “[you must] be just. It is closer to piety.”
We ask Allah to raise our stations and grant us noble characters.
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This film was financed with the help of a Coptic Christian, who is a true Egyptian and not a foreign, imperialist Mohammedan that crawled out of Medina (where they should go back to).
Correction. An extremist copt that is a US citizen but of Egyptian origin.
Secondly Terry Jones who is a redneck pastor a US citizen of redneck origin.
And most importantly a Jewish US/Israeli dual citizenship moron who funded the whole thing and as interviewed he claims to have gotten funding from Israeli Jewish organizations
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Islam was framed! It was teh JOOOOOZZZZ!!!!!
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You should show that to your clerics as there are thousands of examples of them referring to ALL Christians and Jews as apes and pigs. Nice try, Mohammedan, but I couldn't care less about what the Muslim site you ripped that off says.
Muslims are the most bigoted, racist and intolerant group of people on the planet and they are incapable of assimilating into western society in large numbers.
Correction. An extremist copt that is a US citizen but of Egyptian origin.
Secondly Terry Jones who is a redneck pastor a US citizen of redneck origin.
And most importantly a Jewish US/Israeli dual citizenship moron who funded the whole thing and as interviewed he claims to have gotten funding from Israeli Jewish organizations
Why is he an extremist for wanting his country back from imperialist Muslims? Interesting how you defend Muslims who want that.
Just another hypocritical Mohammedan.
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Yeah its pretty funny actually. The same people that run washington are causing problem for america and asking america to fight its wars. Pretty amusing indeed that its an israeli american that did this with jewish money. Its also funny that you are 16 trillion dollars in debt and you keep sending financial aid to israel.
The funniest part is, Jewish news outlets have no problem mentioning it.
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Yeah its pretty funny actually. The same people that run washington are causing problem for america and asking america to fight its wars. Pretty amusing indeed.
The funniest part is, Jewish news outlets have no problem mentioning it.
Who did you shitheads blame before 1948?
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Islam was framed! It was teh JOOOOOZZZZ!!!!!
It's funny as their actions have vindicated everything in the film. Far be it for Muslims to not be stupid enough to realize that , haha.
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The British, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch who at hte time colonized the lands of Muslims. Africa, middle-east.. and well not just lands of Muslims but other lands like asia, south america, various islands, etc...
You see... if you have a memory span of 24 hours you will not realize that. If you also believe "jesus died for our sins" and dont believe in accountability and consequence... you will not realize any of this.
What you do in the past shapes the future. Reap the consequences now.
Don't be misled--you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. Galatians 6:7
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The British, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch who at hte time colonized the lands of Muslims. Africa, middle-east.. and well not just lands of Muslims but other lands like asia, south america, various islands, etc...
You see... if you have a memory span of 24 hours you will not realize that. If you also believe "jesus died for our sins" and dont believe in accountability and consequence... you will not realize any of this.
What you do in the past shapes the future. Reap the consequences now.
Oh I see so its always someone else's fault ::) Muslims are so fucking gutless they can't even take responsibility for their own actions.
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Yea its our action when a bomb drops from an american made airplane. Its because it was OUR FAULT that our house got bombed.
If anything, Muslims are indeed faulted, for abandoning Islam and becoming weak of faith, and turning to materialism, nationalism, ethnic and tribal prides. Which is what the british at the time tried to deliberately instill to divide and conquer.
Muslims are returning to Islam and there is a backlash against this recent history of repression and oppression against the Muslim world. Eat it.
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Yea its our action when a bomb drops from an american made airplane. Its because it was OUR FAULT that our house got bombed.
If anything, Muslims are indeed faulted, for abandoning Islam and becoming weak of faith, and turning to materialism, nationalism, ethnic and tribal prides. Which is what the british at the time tried to deliberately instill to divide and conquer.
Muslims are returning to Islam and there is a backlash against this recent history of repression and oppression against the Muslim world. Eat it.
Blah blah blah, go fuck yourself, you can't stay on topic or condemn this bullshit. Why? Because your a Muslim and you think everything a Muslim does gets the A'OK from Allah.
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I could not give a damn about your petty flag of murder being ripped to pieces. You came and conquered another country for your petty interests under the guise of 'humanitarian help' (BULLSHIT). It's funny how 'sacred' it is to you. I feel no remorse. Why? Because you don't give a damn when you desecrate our holy book which is priceless, unlike your made in china flag. Your 'ambassador'/CIA stooge dying? You killed a hundred thousand Libyans. You are making one man's death a big deal? The hospitals you bombed? The children you killed or maimed?
Should I feel any remorse for you, when you even MOCK the death of Muslims, mock the mocking of our holy book? Act as hypocrites and snicker and laugh at the ridicule of our faith? You want others to respect you start by respecting OTHERS and their DIGNITY.
You are worthless.
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I could not give a damn about your petty flag of murder being ripped to pieces. You came and conquered another country for your petty interests under the guise of 'humanitarian help' (BULLSHIT). It's funny how 'sacred' it is to you. I feel no remorse. Why? Because you don't give a damn when you desecrate our holy book which is priceless, unlike your made in china flag. Your 'ambassador'/CIA stooge dying? You killed a hundred thousand Libyans. You are making one man's death a big deal? The hospitals you bombed? The children you killed or maimed?
Should I feel any remorse for you, when you even MOCK the death of Muslims, mock the mocking of our holy book? Act as hypocrites and snicker and laugh at the ridicule of our faith? You want others to respect you start by respecting OTHERS and their DIGNITY.
You are worthless.
I don't need or want your respect caveman.
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Neither do Muslims want yours. They want you the fuck out of their countries and to STOP KILLING and INVADING and OCCUPYING foreign lands that have nothing to do with you.
GTFO and STAY the fuck out.
You will earn the respect of muslims when you stop waging wars and start TALKING and holding DIPLOMATIC talks where you do not overshadow or try to dominate muslims with whatever your demands are, but instead you agree to have mutual respect, agreement, trade, not exploitation of muslims or puppeteering.
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Neither do Muslims want yours. They want you the fuck out of their countries and to STOP KILLING and INVADING and OCCUPYING foreign lands that have nothing to do with you.
GTFO and STAY the fuck out.
You will earn the respect of muslims when you stop waging wars and start TALKING and holding DIPLOMATIC talks where you do not overshadow or try to dominate muslims with whatever your demands are, but instead you agree to have mutual respect, agreement, trade, not exploitation of muslims or puppeteering.
Fuck you, Muslims allied with the Nazi's that a good indicator of how fucked up you are. The only one that exploits you assclowns are your our governments, but your to pre occupied with Israel and the US to even see it
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lol 'allied with nazis'. Oh you mean those like 20 soldiers and that one 'imam'.
Yeah strong "muslims allied themselves with hitler".
Did you know Jews were going to ally themselves with the ottomans and they tried to bribe their way to buying palestine.
The ottoman caliph told them hell no.. THEN they allied themselves with the british.
That's the turn of events in history my friend ;) They wanted to use the ottomans, they got rejected, then they used the british, today they are using you
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Oh I see so its always someone else's fault ::) Muslims are so fucking gutless they can't even take responsibility for their own actions.
It's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Muslims are nothing more than little hypocritical bitches.
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LOOK.. clearly when an american bomb is dropped on a hospital in a muslim country. It is TOTALLY a Muslim's fault.
AND... CLEARLY... when Israel tells America that Mozzlemz are evil, America must hunt down them evil mozzlems and save the world. Because they are not "God's chosen people" and Jerusalem IS the capital of ISRAEL that has CLEARLY existed for billions of years since before creation itself.
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LOOK.. clearly when an american bomb is dropped on a hospital in a muslim country. It is TOTALLY a Muslim's fault.
AND... CLEARLY... when Israel tells America that Mozzlemz are evil, America must hunt down them evil mozzlems and save the world. Because they are not "God's chosen people" and Jerusalem IS the capital of ISRAEL that has CLEARLY existed for billions of years since before creation itself.
The Jews OWN you.
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The Jews OWN you.
The Jews own you actually. That's why you do their bidding. And I hate to use the word Jew generally, because not all Jews are demented zionists. Zionists are fascist scum.. and zionists were atheist secularists, nationalists, racists, not religious Jews.
I am owned by God and acknowledge my existence only thanks to Him.
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The Jews own you actually. That's why you do their bidding. And I hate to use the word Jew generally, because not all Jews are demented zionists. Zionists are fascist scum.. and zionists were atheist secularists, nationalists, racists, not religious Jews.
I am owned by God and acknowledge my existence only thanks to Him.
Let's see, so the Jews own us? I feel pretty safe in the USA, how does feel in the ME in those caves?
THEY OWN YOU.
just accept it.
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Let's see, so the Jews own us? I feel pretty safe in the USA, how does feel in the ME in those caves?
THEY OWN YOU.
just accept it.
Actually the middle-east has a greatly built infrastructure. The roads are better, the houses are better and more vast (not wood shacks like in the west).. however it's hard to maintain when bombs are constantly dropped by foreigners.
You feel pretty safe in the US, yet you make the rest of the world unsafe with your death machine.
Your donkey and elephant parties flock to israel for their ritual worship of israeli politicians and their satanic approval. That says it all. They tell you to hop, you hop, they tell you to roll you roll, they ridicule you, you smile and laugh all happy. Funny pet.
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Paved roads to the caves eh? Lol
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Actually I lived in Libya and when I came to north america i was literally asked if the houses were on trees ;D I was like what the (*#? Then I realized people in north america are pretty ignorant of the rest of the world.
I guess they saw lion king, tarzan and crap like that... then thought all africa is lions, beasts, bushes and trees and harsh deserts, etc...
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Actually I lived in Libya and when I came to north america i was literally asked if the houses were on trees ;D I was like what the (*#? Then I realized people in north america are pretty ignorant of the rest of the world.
I guess they saw lion king, tarzan and crap like that... then thought all africa is lions, beasts, bushes and trees and harsh deserts, etc...
Why did you come to north America?
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Actually the middle-east has a greatly built infrastructure. The roads are better, the houses are better and more vast (not wood shacks like in the west).. however it's hard to maintain when bombs are constantly dropped by foreigners.
You feel pretty safe in the US, yet you make the rest of the world unsafe with your death machine.
Your donkey and elephant parties flock to israel for their ritual worship of israeli politicians and their satanic approval. That says it all. They tell you to hop, you hop, they tell you to roll you roll, they ridicule you, you smile and laugh all happy. Funny pet.
HAHAHAHA!!!
Your descriptions of the houses are fantastic... Too bad they are lies.
I've been all over the world, and by far, the west owns any south east asian area in terms of living conditions... Even when bombs aren't being dropped on it.
Does the UAE have some awesome buildings... HELL YES!!!
Too bad only the top .00001 percent can live in them... everyone else lives in squalor.
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Actually I lived in Libya and when I came to north america i was literally asked if the houses were on trees ;D I was like what the (*#? Then I realized people in north america are pretty ignorant of the rest of the world.
I guess they saw lion king, tarzan and crap like that... then thought all africa is lions, beasts, bushes and trees and harsh deserts, etc...
::) Oh fucking bullshit. Who asked you that? A 5 year old?
Time to ban a trolling gimmick.
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lol 'allied with nazis'. Oh you mean those like 20 soldiers and that one 'imam'.
Yeah strong "muslims allied themselves with hitler".
Did you know Jews were going to ally themselves with the ottomans and they tried to bribe their way to buying palestine.
The ottoman caliph told them hell no.. THEN they allied themselves with the british.
That's the turn of events in history my friend ;) They wanted to use the ottomans, they got rejected, then they used the british, today they are using you
Whatever asshole, history speaks for itself.
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I borrowed this from another forum
"Ahhhhhh, but I can, my man.
See, in a former life I decided to go out amongst them to see if it was true what I was reading about in the one-sided news articles I was reading. So I went there. And saw with my own eyes that the "peoples" (again, don't read too much into that -- I'm playing nicely, here) you claim have no option for knowledge other than some power-hungry imam -- well, holy fuck -- what did I see? Literally a plantation of satellite dishes as far as the eye could see. Even in the teeny-tiny towns, and I mean fucking TINY, there were dishes. And our focus of this thread use(d) those dishes to obtain all sorts of info about the planet (although ironically, most of that info seemed to be coming from a variety of porn channels). I've talked at length with engineers, doctors, generals, secretaries of whatever, warlords, troops, police, wives, widows, children -- and what I got out of it all is that you, kind sir, are mistaken.
Your tgt of affection and excusim doesn't repay you with the evidence you need to sustain your arguments.
You want to paint anyone as bad as they are, if provoked -- yet you can't (actually you won't -- because you and I both know you can find examples to support your argument, but they would open up a whole new can of worms, worms that are just going to need a whole new slew of excuses for their behavior, LOL).
You want to paint them as uneducated, because they are not given the opportunities to learn, but actually they are -- and have access to radio, TV, cable, internet, newspapers, magazines, and etc. -- so uneducated and backwards, yes -- but by CHOICE and not by lack of opportunity.
You want to blame everyone that has some sort of better position, for having that position -- and it is your default presumption that the better position was unfairly obtained, and at the cost of the poor soul(s) who now MUST act out in frustration -- but your poor souls simply won't cooperate.
They get education -- yet prefer to live like they were in the 3rd century.
They get cars yet can't figure out how to manage handling a 4-way intersection.
They have women, but the whole idea of a chick is so giggly to them, they simply prefer to drop a tent over a chick rather than to have to actually walk past her without raping her and unloading their spunk somewhere (can't have a wasted erection, can we?).
They have their revolution yet can't seem to get a handle on not biting the hand that feeds them.
Sorry dude, I CAN have it both ways -- you are the one who can't...."
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EDITORIAL: The world Obama created (leading from behind)
The Washington Times ^ | September 12, 2012 | Editorial
Posted on September 12, 2012 9:34:23 PM EDT by jazusamo
Leading from behind leads to global chaos
The tragic events that took place in Libya and Egypt this week were the inevitable consequences of weak U.S. leadership. America and the world cannot afford four more such years.
In Benghazi, four Americans including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens were murdered in a coordinated attack on the U.S. consulate by Islamic militants. On the same day, al Qaeda released a video in which leader Ayman al-Zawahri eulogized Abu Yahya al-Libi, a Libyan al Qaeda commander believed killed in June by a U.S. drone strike. This was no coincidence.
In Cairo, demonstrators — upset over an allegedly anti-Islamic film trailer being circulated on YouTube — spray-painted the outside of the U.S. embassy with anti-American slogans, then scaled the walls, hauled down the American flag and ripped it to pieces. Old Glory was replaced by a black jihadist banner as the crowd chanted, “Obama, Obama there are still a billion Osamas.”
American inadequacy was compounded in the communications crisis surrounding the incident. Our Cairo embassy put out a statement even before the flag was torn down denouncing the “misguided” film and voicing U.S. support for Islam. This semi-apology clearly had no effect, unless it was to embolden the crowd. After the flag was torn to shreds, there followed a bizarre Twitter debate between an embassy employee and an Egyptian activist in which the staffer seemed to be more concerned with denouncing the purported pretext for the mob’s riot than condemning the violence itself. “We consistently stand up for Muslims around the world and talk abt [sic] how Islam is a wonderful religion,” the tweeter explained.
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...If the Obama administration wanted to send a brief missive to the demonstrators, it should have opted for the one suggested by columnist Charles Krauthammer: “Go to Hell.”
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Hayden: Obama's Libya Adventure to Blame for Ambassador Death
Newsmax ^ | 9/12/12 | Jim Meyers and John Bachman
Posted on September 12, 2012 10:08:21 PM EDT by socialism_stinX
Violent protests in Libya that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador were the result of President Obama’s decision to intervene in the Libyan revolt without a “deep appreciation” for what would follow, former CIA Director Michael Hayden tells Newsmax.
Hayden, a former four-star Air Force general, was appointed CIA director by President George W. Bush in 2006 and served until 2009.
In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Wednesday, Hayden discusses the events in Libya: “I’m reminded of Secretary of State Powell’s comments about Iraq going back almost a decade — the Pottery Barn theory that if you break it you own it.
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Al Zawahri Personally Ordered Al Qaeda To Murder US Ambassador Stevens
Debkafiles ^ | September 12, 2012, 10:04 PM
Posted on September 12, 2012 8:48:24 PM EDT by drewh
The US Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three staff members at the US consulate in Benghazi were deliberately murdered Tuesday night Sept 11 just after memorial ceremonies were held in America for the victims of the 9/11 outrage.
Counter-terror sources report exclusively that far from being a spontaneous raid by angry Islamists, it was a professionally executed terrorist operation by a professional Al Qaeda assassination team, whose 20 members acted under the orders of their leader Ayman al Zawahri after special training.
They were all Libyans, freed last year from prisons where they were serving sentences for terrorism passed during the late Muammar Qaddafi’s rule.
In a video tape released a few hours before the attack, Zawahri called on the faithful to take revenge on the United States for liquidating one of the organization’s top operatives, Libyan-born Abu Yahya al-Libi in June by a US drone in northwestern Pakistan.
Its release was the “go” signal for the hit team to attack the US diplomats in Benghazi.
To mask their mission, they stormed the consulate on the back of a violent protest by hundreds of Islamists against a film said to insult Prophet Muhammed produced by a Florida real estate agent called Sam Bacile, who has been described as of Israeli origin.
The operation is rated by terror experts as the most ambitious outrage al Qaeda has pulled off in the last decade. According to our sources, the gunmen split into two groups of 10 each and struck in two stages:
1. They first fired rockets at the consulate building on the assumption that the ambassador’s bodyguards would grab him, race him out of the building and drive him to a safe place under the protection of the US secret service
2. The second group was able to identify the getaway vehicle and the ambassador’s armed escort and lay in wait to ambush them. The gunmen then closed in and killed the ambassador and his bodyguards at point blank range. Intelligence sources report that the investigation launched by US counter-terror and clandestine services is focusing on finding out why no clue was picked up of the coming attack by any intelligence body and how al Qaeda’s preparations for the attack which took place inside Libya went unnoticed by any surveillance authority.
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Libya rescue squad ran into fierce, accurate ambush
CNBC ^ | 9/12/12 | Alastair Macdonald; Editing by Andrew Osborn
Posted on September 12, 2012 9:42:57 PM EDT by Kartographer
A squad of U.S. troops dispatched by helicopter across the Libyan desert to rescue besieged diplomats from Benghazi on Wednesday ran into a fierce overnight ambush that left a further two Americans dead, Libyan officials told Reuters.
Accounts of the mayhem at the U.S. consulate, where the ambassador and a fourth American died after a chaotic protest over a film insulting to Islam, remain patchy. But two Libyan officials, including the commander of a security force which escorted the U.S. rescuers, said a later assault on a supposedly safe refuge for the diplomats appeared professionally executed.
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Official: Libyan Security Handed Ambassador Stevens to Attackers
Breitbart ^ | 12 Sep 2012, 3:16 PM PDT | AWR Hawkins
Posted on September 12, 2012 9:27:35 PM EDT
President Obama claims Libyan security forces fought beside Americans against attackers on Tuesday, but a Libyan official says they gave up consulate personnel to the Islamists who murdered them. Libya's Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif says the consulate's security forces moved Ambassador Christopher Stevens and other personnel to a second, safer building once the attacks began. But, he continues, the security forces told the attackers which building Stevens was hiding in, effectively handing him over.
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Actually I lived in Libya and when I came to north america i was literally asked if the houses were on trees ;D I was like what the (*#? Then I realized people in north america are pretty ignorant of the rest of the world.
I guess they saw lion king, tarzan and crap like that... then thought all africa is lions, beasts, bushes and trees and harsh deserts, etc...
Why did you move if the US is such a shithole?
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http://www.washingtonguardian.com/red-flags-embassy-security
We were warned.
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Neither do Muslims want yours. They want you the fuck out of their countries and to STOP KILLING and INVADING and OCCUPYING foreign lands that have nothing to do with you.
GTFO and STAY the fuck out.
You will earn the respect of muslims when you stop waging wars and start TALKING and holding DIPLOMATIC talks where you do not overshadow or try to dominate muslims with whatever your demands are, but instead you agree to have mutual respect, agreement, trade, not exploitation of muslims or puppeteering.
Please they are screaming for help of the US and FN in Syria right and as soon as they get it (See Libya) they hate us like the plague. Go fuck yourself and your muslim rats as well but again you have probably been abused by your parents and uncles already.
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Former Navy SEAL identified as embassy attack victim
FoxNews.com ^
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:15:35 AM by
Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL from Massachusetts, was one of the victims of the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi...
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Former Navy SEAL identified as embassy attack victim
FoxNews.com ^
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:15:35 AM by
Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL from Massachusetts, was one of the victims of the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi...
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Imagine surviving your entire tenure as a SEAL, only to die at an embassy during a routine day of work... epic fail.
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Despite Threats, No Marines Guarded U.S. Consulate In Libya
by John Nolte
12 Sep 2012
www.breitbart.com
On a target date like the eleventh anniversary of 9/11, it is quite the jaw-dropping revelation to learn that there were no Marines guarding the U. S. consulate where Chris Stevens, our ambassador to Libya, was brutally murdered yesterday:
Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli.
A defense official told POLITICO on Wednesday that the Pentagon is sending an elite team of about 50 additional Marines, called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, to reinforce the embassy.
A senior administration official Wednesday called the Benghazi consulate “an interim facility,” which the State Department began using “before the fall of Qadhafi.” It was staffed Tuesday by Libyan and State Department security officers. The consulate came under fire from heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades at about 10 p.m. local time on Tuesday. By the time the attack ended several hours later, four Americans were dead and three others had been injured.
The Benghazi consulate had “lock-and-key” security, not the same level of defenses as a formal embassy, an intelligence source told POLITICO. That means it had no bulletproof glass, reinforced doors or other features common to embassies. The intelligence source contrasted it with the American embassy in Cairo, Egypt – “a permanent facility, which is a lot easier to defend.” The Cairo embassy also was attacked Tuesday.
This is startling and troubling news, especially in light of the fact that the day before yesterday's attacks, September 10, al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri made direct threats against Americans in Libya to avenge the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi, a high-ranking al-Qaeda official taken out by an American drone attack last June.
Here you have al-Queda making explicit threats against Americans in Libya and little to no protection for our consulate -- and as a result, four Americans are dead.
Moreover, just hours before the attack ...
[Sean] Smith sent a message to Alex Gianturco, the director of "Goonswarm," Smith's online gaming team or "guild."
“Assuming we don’t die tonight,” the message, which was first reported by Wired, read. “We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.”
Within hours of posting that message, Smith, a husband and father of two, was dead. Gianturco, who could not be reached for further comment, got the word out to fellow gamers, according to Wired.
The media will never demand answers for this horrifying news, but hopefully a Congressional investigation will.
Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC
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If I had a Koran near me I would take a shit on it and douse it in pigs blood and then set it ablaze.
Mature
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Mature
No, but fun.
fuck muslims and tthose who make excuses for them. 99% make the other 1% look bad.
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Hey you're an ignorant that does not read books.
The qur'an has guidance in it, for those that want to be guided.
The american flag made in china has what? Wherever it flies, terror spreads on the earth. Hardly useful for anything.
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No, but fun.
fuck muslims and tthose who make excuses for them. 99% make the other 1% look bad.
So 99% of muslims are bad?
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So 99% of muslims are bad?
No, probably 99.999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 9999999%
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Who's the 0.01%
This guy LOL:
(http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/2/5/dd477ebe-73eb-44e9-8f2d-6d0b6d08ad32.jpg)
He's a fraudulent devil in human form.
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No, probably 99.999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 9999999%
did you graduate from high school? Serious Question
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did you graduate from high school? Serious Question
Serious question - don't you ever look in the mirror and ask yourself why you still kneepad obama's disastrous presidency?
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3333 are you that brain dead that the truth to you is:
1. Obama is evil/Democrats are evil
2. Republicans are angels/good/awesome
3. Muslims are evil and Obama is a Muslim in disguise BRRRRRRRRR
4. Wars are awesome and 16 trillion dollars of debt is PURELY obama's fault
That everything you talk about has to do with
1. Them evil mozzlems
2. Them evil democrats
3. Oh the beautiful republicans
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Serious question - don't you ever look in the mirror and ask yourself why you still kneepad obama's disastrous presidency?
I dont though.. its been well documented... which goes to your lack ability to retain information....so i ask again.. did you graduate high school and or do you have a learning disability
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Maybe 3333 was an MKULTRA experiment subject?
He is programmed by the CIA to talk about democrats
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I've known a few muslims..seemed like OK people...I don't think every muslim is trying to behead me or blow up the country. Obama is still a fucking awful Presdient though
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I've known a few muslims..seemed like OK people...I don't think every muslim is trying to behead me or blow up the country. Obama is still a fucking awful Presdient though
A few getbiggers would make you believe that but trust me -_- we don't randomly chop people's heads off. Read a qur'an and you'll see. I lived amongst muslims for 6 years while a christian. They didn't behead me :) It seems media has made alot of people on our end here in the west lose their heads :)
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Valerie Jarrett gets more armed protection in the US than Ambassador Stevens got in Benghazi!!
breitbart ^ | 9/8/2012 | pat caddell
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:49:13 PM by barryobi
Look, Jarrett’s defenders might say, there’s nothing wrong with being powerful. Somebody has to be powerful. And that’s true, but there is something wrong with abusing power. Consider this passage from Becker’s Times piece, describing Jarrett’s ways: “She can also be imperious — at one event ordering a drink from a four-star general she mistook for a waiter—and attached to the trappings of power in a way some in the White House consider unseemly for a member of the staff.” Attached to the trappings of power how, exactly? Here comes the answer: A case in point is her full-time Secret Service detail. The White House refuses to disclose the number of agents or their cost, citing security concerns. But the appearance so worried some aides that two were dispatched to urge her to give the detail up. She listened politely, one said, but the agents stayed. So let’s get this straight: Jarrett gets a security detail from the US Secret Service (USSS). That means 24/7 protection, at a cost of millions of dollars a year. Of course, it also means an air of importance for Jarrett--her own taxpayer-funded entourage. The idea that someone such as Jarrett--who officially plays no role in national security or counter-terrorism--would receive USSS protection would be laughable if it weren’t, in fact, real. It’s like a tale out of the Versailles Court of the Sun King--the sort of anecdote that provokes the peasants, eventually, to revolution. But in the meantime, before the deluge, Jarrett plans to live it up; surrounded by agents with guns, she is queen of her own court. In other words, for pure conspicuous consumption, Jarrett puts her fellow Chicagoan, the laughably self-important Desirée Rogers, to shame.
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1. LIBYA THREAT: Benghazi and Libya: the Stevens death was an ambush by jihadists. The Libya authorities knew the date of Ambassador Stevens arrival, at their invitation. Stevens was directed to the safe house because the ambush was waiting to strike him. Stevens was ambushed by Al Q linked fighters, all under the umbrella of LIHJ. (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) This was a revenge attack linked to the drone killed of Al q senior commander Abu-Yahya al-Libi on June 4 in AfPak. Al-Libi's older brother is a senior commander of LIHJ in Libya, Abd al-Wahhab . Many more strong links between Libya and Al Q revenge saga. Famous LIHJ commander Belhadj was trained and protected by the dead al-Libi while he was in AfPak and Malaysia. If the White House doesn't know this, it does NOT want to know this.
http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/blog/2012/09/obama-telephones-cairo
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57512847/official-libyan-insiders-may-have-aided-assault
What a fufking disaster.
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Obama Had Advance Knowledge of Mideast Attacks
FrontPage Magazine ^ | September 14, 2012 | Matthew Vadum
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 8:35:59 AM by SJackson
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Obama Had Advance Knowledge of Mideast Attacks
Posted By Matthew Vadum On September 14, 2012 @ 12:54 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 2 Comments
Although the Obama administration had “credible” evidence of this week’s deadly Islamist attacks on U.S. missions in Libya and Egypt a full two days before they happened, no effort was made to protect U.S. government personnel, The Independent reports.
The Islamofascist offensive took place on September 11, a day of great symbolic importance to both America and the Islamic world because it was the eleventh anniversary of al Qaeda’s attacks on the World Trader Center and the Pentagon. The U.S. media, of course, seems barely aware of this symbolism because it has been focused laser-like on savagely attacking President Obama’s opponent, Republican Mitt Romney, for daring to criticize Obama’s foreign policy.
Senior diplomatic sources told the British newspaper that “the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and ‘lockdown’, under which movement is severely restricted.”
Unfortunately, there’s much more bad news. Important secret papers are missing from the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and refuges for U.S. personnel across that recently liberated North African nation are no longer considered “safe.”
The AWOL documents are sensitive enough to make Julian Assange salivate.
“Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts,” the paper reports.
Americans have also been subjected to the grotesque spectacle of a dead envoy’s body being dragged around Benghazi. U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and at least three other Americans were killed in a firefight at the U.S. consulate in that city. Stevens was apparently tortured and may have been sodomized by his assassins in a ritual of humiliation popular among Islamic terrorists.
Libyan leader Mohammed Magarief promptly apologized “to the United States, the people and to the whole world for what happened” in Benghazi.
Although U.S. Marines are normally stationed at the full embassy in Tripoli, for reasons unknown, no Marines were guarding the facility in Benghazi. President Obama has reportedly since dispatched a contingent of Marines to Libya.
Despite President Obama’s curious statement about Egypt, that “I don’t think we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” U.S. officials in Cairo had been counting on increasingly hostile Egyptian authorities to protect the diplomatic compound. Hillary Clinton’s State Department reportedly ordered the Marines defending the embassy in Cairo not to carry live ammunition. At the Pentagon, Marines Lt. Col. Chris Hughes denied the report, saying, “No restrictions on weapons or weapons status [had] been imposed.”
At press time anti-American protests had spread to the Gaza Strip, Tunisia, Yemen, Iraq, and Bangladesh, and were still continuing in Cairo. Egypt’s Islamist President Mohamed Morsi has condemned the Benghazi assault but his critics don’t believe he was being sincere.
Initially it was reported that the attacks in Benghazi and Cairo were spontaneous, prompted by a movie trailer on YouTube for Innocence of Muslims, which offers an unflattering portrayal of the Prophet Mohammed. This is a convincing enough cover story because Muslims have rioted over far less. Muslims not only do not tolerate unkind cinematic depictions of Mohammed, they do not tolerate any cinematic depiction of Mohammed. (Watching The Message, a Muslim-approved full-length feature film from 1977 starring Anthony Quinn, requires an unusual degree of suspension of disbelief. Mohammed is a character but he’s not shown or heard.)
But now it is unclear if such a movie actually exists. Innocence of Muslims might even turn out to be a so-called false flag operation created as a pretext for Islamist attacks on U.S. interests. Hollywood figures are reportedly unaware of the film and the actors in the 14-minute Ed Wood-quality production now claim they were misled about the storyline.
The story gets stranger. The Wall Street Journal spoke to someone who called himself Sam Bacile. Bacile claimed to be the director of the celluloid schlock. The newspaper of record said Bacile “described himself as a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer, called Islam a ‘cancer,’ and said the film had been funded by Jewish donors to the tune of $5 million.”
Bacile, it turns out, may not exist. There are no records of him in the U.S. or Israel. Bacile’s telephone number corresponds to an address in Cerritos, California, which seems to be the home of someone else. Someone who answered the phone and might reside there reportedly may or may not be a man who did time in prison for bank fraud. And so on and so on.
An under-secretary named Patrick Kennedy at the State Department said the assault in Benghazi was carefully planned. The attack might have been payback for the U.S. killing of Libyan-born Mohamed Hassan Qaid (also known as Abu Yahya al-Libi), a senior al Qaeda official. Qaid was cremated in a drone strike in Pakistan three months ago.
Then again, maybe not.
Stateside, the apoplectic Obama-worshipping media has been pounding Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for days for speaking truth to power.
In response to perceived Muslim anger over Innocence of Muslims, the U.S. mission in Cairo released a bizarre statement Tuesday condemning “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.”
Expressing the views of many Americans, Romney said it was “disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
In words that will likely come back to haunt him, President Obama, the man who once mocked Cambridge, Massachusetts police by saying they “acted stupidly” by arresting Obama’s close personal friend, told “60 Minutes” that Romney’s comment wasn’t presidential. Romney has “a tendency to shoot first and aim later.” This is the same thing that unlucky Jimmy Carter said of then-challenger Ronald Reagan.
So might criticize President Obama for not seeming to care about national security issues and foreign policy.
After all, his wife, First Nanny Michelle Obama, just said that obesity is “absolutely” the greatest threat to national security.
And remember, as I reported in Subversion Inc., that this is an administration that views each September 11 not as a solemn day of remembrance but as a Kumbaya-encrusted day of rainbows and unicorns. Obama’s September 11 observance isn’t about the murder of 3,000 innocent Americans by Norman Invasion-era theocratic totalitarians. In Obama’s words, it’s about “solving today’s most pressing challenges: clean energy, energy efficiency, health care, education, economic opportunity, veterans and military families.”
At the 2009 law-signing ceremony creating the “National Day of Service and Remembrance,” President Obama said nothing about 9/11, except in passing. He said he hoped that the generation of young people “that came of age amidst the horrors of 9/11 and [Hurricane] Katrina, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, an economic crisis without precedent,” would come forward and volunteer to work for “change.” And it’s never been clear why this National Day of Service has to be held – of all the 365 days in a year – on September 11.
President Obama, an avid golfer, doesn’t even show up for many of his regular intelligence briefings. His fans suggest the president is able to fully absorb the daily terrorist threat matrix by osmosis.
As Election Day draws nearer, now Governor Romney will be given daily intelligence briefings.
Chances are he’ll show up.
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Is this like when Bush knew about 9-11?
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Is this like when Bush knew about 9-11?
Bush told 48 hours befortehand speficially where and when the attack was going to happen?
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Bush told 48 hours befortehand speficially where and when the attack was going to happen?
You believe that Obama was?
Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?
Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.
I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.
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You believe that Obama was?
Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?
Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.
I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.
No - based on what the UK Independent reported.
Obama and obama alone is the cause of this mess in the ME.
He owns this disaster just like many of us warned at the time.
So once again, posters like Fury, myself, kazan, GW, HH6, were dead right on and the leftist obama slaves were proven to be wrong and foolish once again.
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I said we should stay out of Libya's mess also, so on that I agree with you, however, I do not solely blame Obama...While he certainly did something stupid in supporting the overthrow of Gaddafi, I also hold those who committed the crimes responsible as well.
Do I believe he is partly to blame? Yes... absolutely.
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I said we should stay out of Libya's mess also, so on that I agree with you, however, I do not solely blame Obama...While he certainly did something stupid in supporting the overthrow of Gaddafi, I also hold those who committed the crimes responsible as well.
Do I believe he is partly to blame? Yes... absolutely.
If it were contained to Lybia - thats one thing - but we toppled a lot of govts over there and gave the MB everything hook line and sinker.
Embassy in Tunisia on fire today too.
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If it were contained to Lybia - thats one thing - but we toppled a lot of govts over there and gave the MB everything hook line and sinker.
Embassy in Tunisia on fire today too.
That's why I have always said, if you harm my people, consider your country a pane of glass, because that's all you're going to be when I'm through with you.
Serious question. Do you think that it's possible that anyone in the US would back something like this to make Obama specifically look weak on foreign policy?
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That's why I have always said, if you harm my people, consider your country a pane of glass, because that's all you're going to be when I'm through with you.
Serious question. Do you think that it's possible that anyone in the US would back something like this to make Obama specifically look weak on foreign policy?
Anything is possible.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/anti-islam-film-protests_n_1883474.html#liveblog
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BREAKING!!Libya closes Benghazi airport after Islamists fire at U.S. drones
haaretz ^ | 9/14/2012 | ha
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 1:42:12 PM
Libya closed its air space over Benghazi airport temporarily because of heavy anti-aircraft fire by Islamists aiming at U.S. reconnaissance drones flying over the city, days after the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed in an attack.
The closure of the airport prompted speculation that the United States was deploying special forces in preparation for an attack against the militants who were involved.
A Libyan official said the spy planes flew over the embassy compound and the city, taking photos and inspecting locations of radical militant groups who are believed to have planned and staged the attack on the U.S. consulate on Tuesday.
Militants used anti-aircraft guns to fire at the drones, forcing the authorities to shut the airport because they feared for the safety of passenger planes. "Two American drones flew over Benghazi last night with knowledge of the Libyan authorities," Deputy Interior Minister, Wanis al-Sharif told Reuters.
"They were visible to the eye, and came under attack by anti-aircraft weapons used by armed militias."
"For this reason, Benghazi security decided to close down the Benghazi airport air space. Any decision to allow an operation of any sort on Libya soil will be made in coordination with the congress and the new government."
Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the other Americans died after gunmen attacked the lightly fortified U.S. consulate and a safe house refuge in Benghazi on Tuesday night. The attack, which U.S. officials believe could have been planned in advance, emerged from a protest blaming America for a film they said insulted the Prophet Mohammed.
At least four international UN staff running the United Nations mission in Benghazi pulled out on Friday for security reasons, a UN source said. Several Western diplomats including the Italian consul have also left the city, according to Libyan officials
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Obama to welcome home remains of Americans killed in Libya
Yahoo News ^ | 14 Sep 2012 | Olivier Knox,
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 1:52:42 PM by mandaladon
President Barack Obama will travel to Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington on Friday to welcome home the remains of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the three other Americans killed in an attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
"The President and Secretary Clinton will attend the Transfer of Remains Ceremony marking the return to the United States of the remains of the four Americans killed this week in Benghazi, Libya; the President and Secretary Clinton will deliver brief remarks," the White House said in a statement.
Obama's attendance, announced at the last minute, came as protests spread at American diplomatic facilities across northern Africa, the Mideast and Asia. Demonstrators stormed the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and replaced it with an Islamist banner. The embassy in Yemen came under attack on Thursday.
The president has been working the phones with leaders in the region, calling those in Egypt, Libya and Yemen to urge greater security for American facilities. He has also ordered special Marine units tasked with protecting—and, if necessary, evacuating—embassies and consulates to both Libya and Yemen.
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Absolutely love this.
Posted on September 13, 2012 by Paul Mirengoff in 2012 Presidential Election, Egypt, Libya, Mitt Romney
What is “Chicago way” Obama prepared to do?
Bill Otis offers another suggestion for how Mitt Romney should address the atrocity in Libya and his opponents’ claims that Romney erred in criticizing the Obama administration’s initial statement about that atrocity. I post Bill’s suggested statement because it is a near-perfect expression of how I view the matter. Whether it would be politicially wise for Romney to make this statement is a separate question. My inclination would be to go for it.
The ostensible cause of the escalating violence against our embassies and our diplomatic representatives is anger by some Muslims at a film mocking the Prophet Mohammed. The United States honors freedom of speech as a universal human right as well as an American constitutional right. That means that the filmmakers are free, without government interference, to produce and market their message; and others, of any religion and wherever they may be, are free peacefully to protest it.
When the protest turns violent, however — and still more when it turns into murder, with a United States Ambassador’s corpse paraded through the streets — a line has been crossed. When I am President, therefore, I will issue the following order to our embassy security personnel: Any deliberate and hostile intrusion onto the grounds of a United States embassy or consulate is to be repelled by force. If the force needed is shooting to kill, that is to be the force applied. American lives and American property are not the playthings for our enemies, whether free-lance mobs or government-controlled mobs. If our enemies don’t know this — and under the current administration, they don’t — it’s time for them to find out.
I also want to note that freedom of speech extends to political debates in the United States, including the debates about the policy and conduct of our country that are the whole reason political campaigns exist, not to mention being at the very heart of the Constitutional framework our forefathers designed. President Obama, who showed no compunction about blaming his predecessor for foreign crises that occurred before January 2009, is in no position to take the scoundrel’s refuge of patriotism by trying to muzzle those who doubt his current strategy of apology and weakness. The President’s policy, which increases the danger to American lives and sovereignty, is a vitally important question in the vote our country will be taking in a little more than 50 days. Stifling a discusssion of that policy is not something the American people want or will tolerate; indeed, stifling robust debate is, as the Democratic Party once understood in the dark days of Joe McCarthy, fundamenatally unAmerican.
The attempt to bully and intimidate Mr. Obama’s critics is not the answer. Indeed it’s not even the question. The question is what is Mr. Obama going to do about this murderous outrage — not what he’s going to say, or the protest notes he’s going to write, or the aimless “consultations” he’s going to plan, or the next hour-long speech he’s going to give.
When our Ambassador’s body is paraded through the streets, the answer is not high-minded talk followed by more high-minded talk. The answer is to act in unapologetic and unambiguous defense of American sovereignty and lives.
Mr. Obama, what are you going to do?
Or, as Sean Connery put it, “what are you prepared to do.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/what-is-chicago-way-obama-prepared-to-do.php
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Breaking: Libyan Official Confirms Benghazi Assault a Pre-Planned Militant Attack Timed for 9-11
pj media ^ | 9-14-12
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 2:19:27 PM by doug from upland
Breaking: Libyan Official Confirms Benghazi Assault a Pre-Planned Militant Attack Timed for 9-11
The film blamed for the riots: far less relevant to the attacks than the date on which they occurred.
A senior security official says the attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff.
Wanis al-Sharef, eastern Libya’s deputy interior minister, said on Thursday the attacks were suspected to have been timed to mark the 9/11 anniversary and that the militants used civilians protesting an anti-Islam film as cover for their action.
This confirmation puts the murder, and reported rape, of Ambassador Christopher Stevens into the category of assassination.
The Obama administration’s handling of this has played directly into the terrorists’ hands, humiliating the U.S. on the anniversary of the deadliest terror attack ever perpetrated on our soil. Instead of focusing on the timing and purpose of the attacks, the administration keeps mentioning the film.
It’s clear that the film is a pretext, and may even be another taqiyya scam similar to the Danish cartoon campaign.
The usual suspects are waging war on the United States, and our president either doesn’t realize it or is being dishonest about what is really going on
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opinion and commentary website. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D and what did rush say :D
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State Department Denies Holding Up Blackwater Libya Contract
BuzzFeed.com ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Hastings
Posted on September 14, 2012 4:51:33 PM EDT by Daffynition
The State Department is denying charges it held up a security contract to protect the U.S. Ambassador in volatile post-conflict Libya.
On an appearance last night on Piers Morgan Tonight , former Romney and United Nations spokesperson Ric Grenell said he’d been told by State Department officials that Academi “was set to go in and provide security for the Ambassador in Libya.”
“They have been waiting,” Grenell said. “They've done some preliminary evaluations, but for two months, they have been waiting while the State Department decides to get the paperwork right."
A second source with ties to Foggy Bottom confirmed the substance of Grenell's account to BuzzFeed.
But State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland issued a blanket denial this morning of the claim that State Department red tape held up a contract with the firm.
(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...
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Hillary Celebrates End of Ramadan at State Department with Libyan Ambassador
CNSNews ^
Posted on September 14, 2012 8:05:19 PM EDT by Sub-Driver
Hillary Celebrates End of Ramadan at State Department with Libyan Ambassador By Penny Starr September 14, 2012
(CNSNews.com) – At an event officials say was planned before the attacks in Libya that killed four Americans on Sept. 11, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Libyan Ambassador to the U.S., Ali Aujali, celebrated the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan at the State Department on Thursday.
The Eid ul-Fitr reception was held almost a month after the official end of the month on Aug. 19, delayed, officials say, because of Clinton’s travel schedule.
“The date [of the reception] was set purely because of scheduling considerations, especially given lengthy travel abroad recently,” a State Department spokesman told CNSNews.com via email.
The spokesman provided a copy of the Secretary’s schedule, showing that Thursday’s event was scheduled about 24 hours ahead of the attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
“Although I am many weeks overdue in saying it: Eid Mubarak,” Clinton said. “No matter how belated we are honoring Eid and the end of Ramadan, this is a cherished tradition here at the State Department.”
Clinton acknowledged the deaths, saying, “Tonight, our gathering is more somber than any of us would like. This comes during sad and difficult days for the State Department family.
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Official: No Marines in Libya at time of Benghazi attack
The Washington Times ^ | September 15, 2012 | Kristina Wong
Posted on September 15, 2012 4:46:37 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No U.S. Marines were in Libya when protesters stormed a diplomatic mission in the eastern city of Benghazi and killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans late Tuesday, a senior Obama administration official said Saturday.
The official’s comments contradict earlier reports of a small Marine presence at State Department facilities in the North African nation.
The U.S. diplomatic compound breached Tuesday by Libyan protesters in Benghazi had a relatively light security posture compared to diplomatic facilities in other conflict zones.
Marines are guarding diplomatic facilities in Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen, Defense Press Secretary George Little told reporters Thursday.
“The State Department has the lead for embassy security around the world. Naturally, if they ask for our advice in given situations, we’ll offer it up, no question about it,” Mr. Little said in response to a question about who plans security at embassies and diplomatic facilities.
Part of the reason Marines were not stationed at the Benghazi compound is that it is not an embassy or consulate, but a “diplomatic mission,” officials said.
In some conflict zones, State Department officials work in buildings other than embassies or consulates in order to conduct “expeditionary diplomacy” — establishing an initial presence and building a relationship with locals, as in post-revolution Libya, officials said.
Senior administration officials described the facility in Benghazi as an “interim” one that the State Department had acquired before the fall of dictator Moammar Gadhafi, consisting of a main building and several ancillary buildings, as well as an annex farther away....
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White House says 'no intelligence’ could have been acted on to prevent attacks (blame the video)
The Hill ^ | 9/14/12 | Jonathan Easley
Posted on September 15, 2012 5:15:25 PM EDT by Libloather
White House says 'no intelligence’ could have been acted on to prevent attacks
By Jonathan Easley - 09/14/12 12:40 PM ET
The White House on Friday said a report stating the president failed to act on knowledge of a potential attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was “absolutely wrong.”
White House press secretary Jay Carney said there was “no actionable intelligence” ahead of the attack that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.
“There was no intelligence that could in any way have been acted on to prevent these attacks,” he said. “The report was false.”
Embassies in Egypt, Yemen and Tunisia have been attacked by mobs protesting an anti-Islamic video circulating on the Internet.
Republican lawmakers have said the attack on the Libyan consulate, which took place on the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, looked more like a coordinated effort by militants.
But Carney on Friday said there was no evidence it was a planned terrorist assassination. He said it appeared that, like the embassy storming in Cairo, Egypt, the attack was sparked by a trailer circulating on the Internet for a supposed anti-Islam film.
“We have no information to suggest it was a pre-planned attack,” Carney said. “The unrest we’ve seen across the region was in response to a video ... not in response to a 9/11 anniversary, that we know of.”
A report in the UK newspaper The Independent on Thursday said “the U.S. State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and ‘lockdown,’ under which movement is severely restricted.”
The report cited anonymous senior diplomatic sources, and received wide attention in the United States after a link to the Drudge Report.
Carney put the full blame of the Middle East unrest on the video, saying the reason the embassies seemed unprepared to deal with the attacks was because of the unpredictable Muslim reaction to the obscure film.
“What we have seen is unrest around the region in response to a video that Muslims find offensive,” he said. “We have seen incidents like this in the past in reaction to other actions, cartoons, other actions taken that have led to protests and violence in the region and we have managed those situations and we are working to ensure that our diplomatic personnel ... are secure as we deal with response to this video.”
The administration has also been criticized by some who say Stevens, the ambassador to Libya, was not adequately protected. There are conflicting and still emerging reports about whether his security detail was sufficiently armed to deal with an attack.
“It was unfortunately not enough to resist the attacks that we saw,” Carney said. “And it resulted in a tragic loss of life, but there was security. It's also the case that in reaction to this, the president has ordered that we review all of our security arrangements for embassy facilities and other diplomatic facilities around the world.”
President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will make remarks at a return of remains ceremony for the Americans killed in Libya at the Joint Base Andrews this afternoon.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444517304577653680320732176.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories
Just like we said jihadis and al Queada taking over.
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Hardly Mentioned: 8 Americans Wounded in Benghazi - Local Security Abandoned the Property
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 9-14-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook
Posted on September 15, 2012 10:21:10 PM EDT by maggiesnotebook
The UK Independent article has been quoted many times concerning the news that the US had a 48-hour warning before the Cairo Embassy and Benghazi Consulate attacks, but little has been known about another 8 Americans wounded, some of them Military, or that the 30+ force of Libyan guards on the property abandoned it, for the most part. Also, news that the Consulate had just had a "security health check," by local sources, due to the coming day of 9/11, and apparently passed. A pressing question: how badly wounded are these 8 Americans. Other than emotional scars, will they bear life-alternating physical limitations? UPDATE: Some later reports say 14 were wounded, but I haven't found confirmation, or clarification that they were all Americans.
According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night.
There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."
Maybe the State Department will try to help Mr. Ali Fetori get himself and his family out of the country. His future is grim now that his name and his story is in western news. Hopefully we learned something from the arrest of the Pakistani doctor who aided us in the bin Laden raid, but is now in prison.
Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.
An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa." UK Independent
Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.
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O the apologist
By MICHAEL GOODWIN
Last Updated: 5:05 AM, September 16, 2012
Posted: 12:40 AM, September 16, 2012
According to President Obama’s narrative, the murder of four Americans in Libya is a story of “senseless violence” provoked by an anti-Islam video. According to his Praetorian Guards in the media, the story is how Mitt Romney rudely criticized Obama’s foreign policy.
Here’s the real story: The murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others is the most important terrorist attack on American civilians since 9/11. And it happened on the 11th anniversary of that day of infamy, on Obama’s watch.
There were no Marines on guard, and there are reports that the Benghazi embassy had been warned of an al Qaeda assault, yet there were no precautions. It is likely the organized attackers, some carrying rocket-propelled grenades, had inside information about a “safe house,” where they killed two of the Americans.
Obama, after offering condolences and vowing to find those responsible, flew to a campaign event in Vegas.
If that were all, it would be reason enough to doubt his competency and character. But it’s not all.
The crisis, including riots at our embassies in 20 countries, is the full flowering of a policy predicated on appeasement and apology. To borrow a phrase, the Obama chickens are coming home to roost.
The essence of his doomed approach is revealed in Obama’s refusal to meet with the prime minister of Israel while finding time to meet with the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt. The choice raises a fundamental question: Whose side are you on, Mr. President?
To ask is to concede despair. Starting with his Cairo speech in 2009, Obama promised a “new beginning” in our relations with Muslims. Had the comment been a marketing tool for a new administration, it would have been understandable. But the speech was far from benign. It foretold the ruinous path he would follow.
In Cairo, Obama insisted that, after 9/11, America “acted contrary to our ideals,” by using torture — a libel against his own country and the warriors who defend it. Under the Obama “ideals,” we follow a “kill or release” protocol, blasting terrorist leaders with drones while freeing all others without interrogation. So death is now more humane than waterboarding.
He suggested in Cairo that Americans harbor bigotry against Muslims, saying, “We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretense of liberalism.” That, too, was a slander, and the policy corollary is that he says nothing about the slaughter of Christians in Arab lands.
He misstated Mideast history to draw a moral equivalency between Israelis and Palestinians. His portrayal of a “humanitarian crisis” in Gaza was spun of whole cloth, as was his claim that Israeli settlement activity “violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace.” As a result, there have been no direct negotiations during his term.
On Iran, he talked as if the mad mullahs and the US are equally responsible for the 30-year rupture, even though Iran was at that moment helping to kill our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said, “No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons,” a tip-off to his feckless policy.
The central idea of that speech is that America and Israel are largely to blame for radical Islam. The same instinct drips from the statement issued by Obama’s Cairo representative last Tuesday.
Utterly craven, the statement “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions . . . we firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
Deciphering the childish gibberish leads to the conclusion that free speech is OK only until Muslim feelings are hurt. Then we surrender our values to the mob.
In its cockeyed defense, the White House offered conflicting claims: one, that the statement came before the riots began; two, that we should, Obama said, “cut folks a little bit of slack” when they fear for their lives.
Let’s see — there was no riot, but they feared for their lives?
In fact, the embassy reaffirmed the apology twice while the riots raged.
After the statement was online for nearly 10 hours, Mitt Romney called it disgraceful and the White House quickly disavowed it. Until then, the apology for free speech was the sole response from the White House to the day’s events.
And why not? It is perfectly consistent with the last four years.
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You believe that Obama was?
Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?
Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.
I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.
You believe that Obama was?
Based on some dude on frontpagemag.com?
Hahaha... man... I like you, but you hate Obama sooooo much that you are willing to believe any kind of nonsense that's thrown around.
I have no doubt in my mind that NO President of the United States would let something like these things happen if they had advanced knowledge of what was going on.
he believes any one that follows his agenda
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he believes any one that follows his agenda
STFu you piece of garbage. Obamadinajad handed the ME over to crazies you stupid fuck.
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This is the result of a power vacuum and a fucked up ME policy. Another prime of example of government acting before it considers to consequence. The media blitz and all the other crap is cover, trying to shut the barn door long after the horse left. The whole Obama presidency is smoke and mirrors, with media compliance. Every American should not only be embarrassed, but outraged by the sheer incompetence of this administration and the so called journalist.
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State Dept. Rules of Engagement Kept Marines out of Tripoli, Benghazi in Libya
Breitbart ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 16, 2012 2:55:51 PM EDT by yoe
Paul Mirengoff at Powerline (reported) that the Marine Corps issued a statement on Thursday confirming that prior to the September 11 murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, no Marines were stationed in Libya, either at the United States mission in Benghazi or the United States embassy in Tripoli.
The Marine Corps has issued a statement regarding its involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya. ..
In Libya, the Corps says that no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli or the Consulate in Benghazi. Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear.
Decisions regarding whether to have Marines at particular U.S. embassies and consulates fall to the State Department, according to the Marine Corps statement. In the case of Tripoli, the Corps says there were discussions with the State Department about establishing a detachment at the embasssy in Tripoli, a new embassy, some time in the next five years. That may seem like a long time, but for bureaucrats it is often considered ASAP.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
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State Department Denies Holding Up Blackwater Libya Contract
BuzzFeed.com ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Hastings
Posted on September 14, 2012 4:51:33 PM EDT by Daffynition
The State Department is denying charges it held up a security contract to protect the U.S. Ambassador in volatile post-conflict Libya.
On an appearance last night on Piers Morgan Tonight , former Romney and United Nations spokesperson Ric Grenell said he’d been told by State Department officials that Academi “was set to go in and provide security for the Ambassador in Libya.”
“They have been waiting,” Grenell said. “They've done some preliminary evaluations, but for two months, they have been waiting while the State Department decides to get the paperwork right."
A second source with ties to Foggy Bottom confirmed the substance of Grenell's account to BuzzFeed.
But State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland issued a blanket denial this morning of the claim that State Department red tape held up a contract with the firm.
These sources can produce their evidence, and destory Obama. But they can't make accusations like this without proof.
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State Dept. Rules of Engagement Kept Marines out of Tripoli, Benghazi in Libya
Breitbart ^ | September 14, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 16, 2012 2:55:51 PM EDT by yoe
Paul Mirengoff at Powerline (reported) that the Marine Corps issued a statement on Thursday confirming that prior to the September 11 murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, no Marines were stationed in Libya, either at the United States mission in Benghazi or the United States embassy in Tripoli.
The Marine Corps has issued a statement regarding its involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya. ..
In Libya, the Corps says that no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli or the Consulate in Benghazi. Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear.
Decisions regarding whether to have Marines at particular U.S. embassies and consulates fall to the State Department, according to the Marine Corps statement. In the case of Tripoli, the Corps says there were discussions with the State Department about establishing a detachment at the embasssy in Tripoli, a new embassy, some time in the next five years. That may seem like a long time, but for bureaucrats it is often considered ASAP.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
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Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear
If there had been contractors there, you can bet they sure would have kept the Americans safe. They have a very high success rate precisely because they aren't limited by the same rules of engagement, as you point out.
They would have firebombed a crowd threatening the embassy, had they been there. Without a doubt. No way you'd have 3 guys shooting it out in 3 directions, then the ambassador dying of smoke inhalation.
You would have had 6 'operators' firing RPGs into the crowd and things getting very safe very fast :)
Now, 33, get on record... Do you have a CT as to Obama purposely keeping security ouft of there - to create a 911 attack - to give him that support in polls which usually follows terror attacks? DOn't be coy. Get off the fence. Did Obama purposely have limited security and ignore warnings because he wanted an 'incident'?
He's skyrocketed in polls since the attack, which he knew would happen.
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Bro - really? My track record on Lybia and Egypt w Obama is 10000% right now.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/49566?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=70a77a5fec-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email
If there had been contractors there, you can bet they sure would have kept the Americans safe. They have a very high success rate precisely because they aren't limited by the same rules of engagement, as you point out.
They would have firebombed a crowd threatening the embassy, had they been there. Without a doubt. No way you'd have 3 guys shooting it out in 3 directions, then the ambassador dying of smoke inhalation.
You would have had 6 'operators' firing RPGs into the crowd and things getting very safe very fast :)
Now, 33, get on record... Do you have a CT as to Obama purposely keeping security ouft of there - to create a 911 attack - to give him that support in polls which usually follows terror attacks? DOn't be coy. Get off the fence. Did Obama purposely have limited security and ignore warnings because he wanted an 'incident'?
He's skyrocketed in polls since the attack, which he knew would happen.
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great article - but it's all "IF", IF", "IF".
33, straight up... Do you believer the US President allowed the embassy to be very very lightly guarded in order to let an attack happen (that he believed was about to happen), to benefit him politically?
Yes or No?
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great article - but it's all "IF", IF", "IF".
33, straight up... Do you believer the US President allowed the embassy to be very very lightly guarded in order to let an attack happen (that he believed was about to happen), to benefit him politically?
Yes or No?
Yes, my track record on Obama and the ME is 100000% right now. Obama is trying to collapse the ME so that a power vacuum emerges and a pan Islamic caliphate can take over everything and destroy Israel and over Saudi arabia.
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Yes, my track record on Obama and the ME is 100000% right now. Obama is trying to collapse the ME so that a power vacuum emerges and a pan Islamic caliphate can take over everything and destroy Israel and over Saudi arabia.
so he intentionally let those 4 people be killed, knowing an attack was coming? Thats a false flag attack on US soil. That's what you're accusing obama of doing?
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so he intentionally let those 4 people be killed, knowing an attack was coming? Thats a false flag attack on US soil. That's what you're accusing obama of doing?
Absolutely. Obama does not give a shit about this country.
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Absolutely. Obama does not give a shit about this country.
wow. that's huge. Do you agree with Alex Jones that foreigners were imported to make the attack happen? Do you think Obama helped plan the attack, or just let it happen? (LIHOP or MIHOP)? These are big allegations youre making against obama dude.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/libyan-presidentforeigner-responsible-for-embassy-attack.html
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wow. that's huge. Do you agree with Alex Jones that foreigners were imported to make the attack happen? Do you think Obama helped plan the attack, or just let it happen? (LIHOP or MIHOP)? These are big allegations youre making against obama dude.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/libyan-presidentforeigner-responsible-for-embassy-attack.html
Obama put the islamo crazies into power in order to collapse the ME and create a massive pan arab superstate governed by Sharia that will kill off Israel and Saudi Arabia. Then they can take over the oil and get nukes and shift the balance of power in the world.
That s obamas plan and I warned you over a year ago and it is happening now!
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Obama put the islamo crazies into power in order to collapse the ME and create a massive pan arab superstate governed by Sharia that will kill off Israel and Saudi Arabia. Then they can take over the oil and get nukes and shift the balance of power in the world.
That s obamas plan and I warned you over a year ago and it is happening now!
holy shit your glen beck :D :D :D
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Obama put the islamo crazies into power in order to collapse the ME and create a massive pan arab superstate governed by Sharia that will kill off Israel and Saudi Arabia. Then they can take over the oil and get nukes and shift the balance of power in the world.
That s obamas plan and I warned you over a year ago and it is happening now!
That is a huge conspiracy theory. Do you think Romney will call Obama out on it? Why or why not?
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That is a huge conspiracy theory. Do you think Romney will call Obama out on it? Why or why not?
hahahahahaah i hope he does :D :D
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That is a huge conspiracy theory. Do you think Romney will call Obama out on it? Why or why not?
Not a conspiracy. Reality. Again - who has been right - you and blacken or me?
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Not a conspiracy. Reality. Again - who has been right - you and blacken or me?
shit your proven wrong so many times i can't even count them
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shit your proven wrong so many times i can't even count them
On this issue? Lol. Other than GW, fury and myself no one is even close to being as accurate.
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well we should stay the fuck out of all the middle east all these people know is fighting. we wasted lives and money in iraq. just let them fight among themselves
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well we should stay the fuck out of all the middle east all these people know is fighting. we wasted lives and money in iraq. just let them fight among themselves
Go tell that to Obama.
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that's both repub and dem. bush was the last one to put us in this shit,try to build democracy,those people don't want that
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Go tell that to Obama.
Funny how Simple Jack ignores the fact that Obama bypassed congress to go to war with Libya, and look at where that got us. He is one stupid fuck.
Great work, Usurper. ::)
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that's both repub and dem. bush was the last one to put us in this shit,try to build democracy,those people don't want that
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Funny how Simple Jack ignores the fact that Obama bypassed congress to go to war with Libya, and look at where that got us. He is one stupid fuck.
Great work, Usurper. ::)
but dont worry, apprently he says he doesnt support obama either....
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Funny how Simple Jack ignores the fact that Obama bypassed congress to go to war with Libya, and look at where that got us. He is one stupid fuck.
Great work, Usurper. ::)
mommy's out of the house so your on the internet :D :D :D that's special :D
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so the repubs don't do that shit :D
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mommy's out of the house so your on the internet :D :D :D that's special :D
Haha, you're autistic. :D :D :D :D
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Haha, you're autistic. :D :D :D :D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YzWP4F22y68/SyrVLijfs-I/AAAAAAAABOI/w9fL_SH-PmQ/s400/20080731_simple-jack.jpg)
tell everyone where you live and don't lie :D :D :D :D
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so the repubs don't do that shit :D
Obama made the choice to wage war in lybia remember moron?
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tell everyone where you live and don't lie :D :D :D :D
We all know you live in your parent's basement. You're on this board all fucking day, 24/7/365.
Hurry up and log on Whork to back yourself up, you autistic dipshit. :D :D :D :D
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We all know you live in your parent's basement. You're on this board all fucking day, 24/7/365. :D :D :D :D
Don't know bro. Blacken has the hallmarks of someone at a shelter.
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We all know you live in your parent's basement. You're on this board all fucking day, 24/7/365.
Hurry up and log on Whork to back yourself up, you autistic dipshit. :D :D :D :D
:D :D you didn't answer the question mommy's boy, remember don't lie ;D
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Don't know bro. Blacken has the hallmarks of someone at a shelter.
:D :D :D how can you talk about anyone ,you live in the slums :D
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:D :D :D how can you talk about anyone ,you live in the slums :D
I'm like a zoo keeper. Keeping watch over the animals.
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I'm like a zoo keeper. Keeping watch over the animals.
:D :D that's a good one
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Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate
France24 ^ | 9/17/2012 | Leela JACINTO
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 11:59:10 AM by 1066AD
Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate By Leela JACINTO the 17/09/2012 - 15:18
New reports gleaned from Libyan officials and militia commanders suggest that contrary to earlier accounts, last week's deadly attack apparently occurred at two different Benghazi sites in two stages.
Amid contradictory accounts of whether the deadly attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was spontaneous or premeditated, alarming new details have emerged on the September 11 assault, which killed the US ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.
According to senior Libyan officials, as well as militia sources and witnesses on the ground, last week’s seemingly carefully planned assault occurred in two stages at two different sites in the eastern Libyan port city.
In an exhaustive account of the attack, the French daily Le Figaro reported Sunday that only US Ambassador Christopher Stevens perished – from smoke inhalation - inside the US consulate premises. (Click here for the report in French)
At least three other people, including two US Marines, were killed in a house – sometimes called “a farm” by Libyan sources – about a kilometre away from the US consulate premises, according to Le Figaro.
In a timeline of the sequence of events that fateful night - which Le Figaro described as “worthy of a spy novel” – a rebel commander told the French daily that hours after the attack on the US consulate began, he was ordered to go the Benghazi airport to support US Marines who had flown in from the capital of Tripoli.
The order came at around 3am on September 12, according to Imad Shaqabi, a commander of the Dernaa Brigade, one of numerous militias still operating in Libya following the 2011 uprising that ousted Muammar Gaddafi.
According to Shaqabi, they were given no details of their mission. His men assumed they were being called to provide support for the US team to reach a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens’ body.
The body of the US ambassador to Libya was extracted from the consulate around 1am and had been taken to the hospital in a private car minutes later, according to witness reports.
But when the Libyan militia fighters arrived at Benghazi airport, US Marines provided them with GPS coordinates of a second site about a kilometre from the consulate where US diplomatic staff had fled, the newspaper reported.
A secret second site?
Reports of a second site - which some Libyan officials have called a “safe house” - emerged days after the attack, which killed the first US ambassador in more than 30 years.
In an interview with Reuters last week, Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al-Sharif said hours after the attack on the consulate started, US commando units arrived from the capital of Tripoli to evacuate the consulate staff from a Benghazi safe house.
"It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it,” Sharif told Reuters.
Sharif’s account of a US commando unit arriving from Tripoli, as well as the deaths of two US personnel in a second Benghazi location, matches the sequence of events relayed by the Dernaa Brigade commander to Le Figaro.
If true, the reports suggest that the assault had been planned in advance by a group – or groups - with access to sensitive security information.
Planned or spontaneous?
Details of the September 11 attack have been sketchy, with senior US officials warning reporters against jumping to conclusions while investigations are still underway.
But over the weekend, senior US officials appeared to backtrack from earlier statements that the assault on the US consulate in Benghazi was premeditated.
"People gathered outside the embassy (consulate) and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control," US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told Fox News Sunday.
"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, a premeditated attack,” she noted.
Her comments however were in stark contrast to the assessments of senior Libyan officials as well as militia sources in Benghazi.
"The way these perpetrators acted, and moved... leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, determined, predetermined," Mohammed al-Megaryef, president of the Libyan National Congress, told CBS News.
In a phone interview with FRANCE 24 from Benghazi, a fighter with the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade, who declined to be named, said he witnessed the assault on the US consulate and he was sure it was a planned attack.
“They knew the embassy (consulate) very well. They came with heavy weapons and they overtook the place very fast, it was very quick. You can’t do something like that without planning,” he said.
According to the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade fighter, he was unable to get near the consulate premises due to the heavy fighting Tuesday night. Instead his group of fighters were stuck a few blocks away from the by-now burning building, vainly awaiting orders from their commanders.
“It was a mess, there was very heavy fighting. I didn’t understand what was going on. The people attacking the consulate looked like Islamists, they were not at all like the fighters from my katiba (brigade). It was obvious that they had planned this before and they now had a good pretext to attack the embassy (consulate),” he said.
An unclaimed 9/11 attack
The timing of the assault – on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in the US – has also raised questions among security experts.
In a message posted on jihadist sites before the attack, al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri called on Libyans to target Americans in order to avenge the death of his former deputy, Abu Yahya al-Libi, who was killed on June 4 by a US drone in Pakistan”.
In a statement released over the weekend, the Yemen-based al Qaeda affiliate AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula) said al Libi’s killing “increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mukhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet".
But the group has not claimed responsibility for the attack.
Libyan officials have arrested around 50 suspects in the attack and have pointed a finger at a Salafist group, Ansar al-Sharia, or “Supporters of Islamic law”.
But following the public outcry against the attack by Benghazi residents, the group’s leaders have tried to distance themselves from the assault, often in what the New York Times called “muddled or contradictory ways”.
So basically Obama lied again.
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No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says
Fox News ^ | September 17, 2012
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 1:16:22 PM
An intelligence source on the ground in Libya told Fox News that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.
The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.
"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.
These details appear to conflict with accounts from the Obama administration that the attack spawned from an out-of-control protest. The Libyan president also said Sunday that the strike was planned in advance
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/obama-administration-libyan-president-clash-over-explanation-on-consulate/#ixzz26kRlhH5s
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Obama lied - the ambassador died
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No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says
Fox News ^ | September 17, 2012
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2012 1:16:22 PM
An intelligence source on the ground in Libya told Fox News that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.
The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.
"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.
These details appear to conflict with accounts from the Obama administration that the attack spawned from an out-of-control protest. The Libyan president also said Sunday that the strike was planned in advance
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/obama-administration-libyan-president-clash-over-explanation-on-consulate/#ixzz26kRlhH5s
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Obama lied - the ambassador died
Your jumping the gun here 333, we need to wait for Obama's statement to be clarified for us
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Your jumping the gun here 333, we need to wait for Obama's statement to be clarified for us
He too busy watching "Homeland"
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He too busy watching "Homeland"
What I fail to understand is why lie? Maybe you could get away with it 20-30 years ago, but not in this day and age.
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What I fail to understand is why lie? Maybe you could get away with it 20-30 years ago, but not in this day and age.
See Kazan - here is what you need to grasp - Obama needs the story to be about the video since if its about the video - obama can continue his policies in creating pan-islamist caliphate to take over the ME headed by the MB.
If the issue is obama's policies, then he can not continue his policies as such.
Remember - obama's goal is to allow Iran to get a nuke and for the MB to take over the ME so that they can shift the balance of power to the ME and weaken the USA.
Obama wants us paying drastically higher oil prices and this is one of the ways he can accomplish that.
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U.S., Libyan officials offer vastly different version of Benghazi consulate attack that killed 4
Glass, debris and overturned furniture are strewn inside a room in the gutted U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, after an attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. | Ibrahim Alaguri/AP
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By Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — U.S. and Libyan officials are giving significantly different accounts of the gunfire and rocket-propelled grenade attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.
The Obama administration says the assault was a spontaneous local reaction inspired by a demonstration that was taking place at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo against a video made in the United States slurring the Prophet Muhammad, the founder of the Islamic faith. It also contends that the attack grew out of a small protest.
A senior Libyan official says the attack was organized and planned by foreigners – some with links to al Qaida – involved a local Islamic militia, and was timed for the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. Moreover, the Libyan official appeared to question whether there was a protest beforehand.
“The way these perpetrators acted and moved, and their choosing a specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think that this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, pre-determined,” Mohammad Magarief, the head of the Libyan National Congress, the recently elected interim government, said Sunday.
The drastically different versions come as the investigation into the assault still is in its preliminary stages. FBI agents who are to assist their Libyan counterparts have yet to arrive in the North African country, and the Libyan Interior Ministry official who was in charge of the investigation was fired Monday.
Both governments would have good reason to promote their version of the incident.
Libya’s factionalized and weak interim government is confronting growing violence by militias and Islamic extremist groups that refused to disarm after overthrowing the late dictator Moammar Gadhafi last year. The interim government would appear less ineffectual and feckless if the attack were a deep-rooted conspiracy by the world’s most feared terrorist network.
President Barack Obama’s claims that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism and dealt debilitating blows to the remnants of al Qaida have been centerpieces of his appeal for re-election in November. Those claims could be questioned by GOP candidate Mitt Romney and other Republicans if al Qaida is found to have planned a well-coordinated attack on such a significant date without being detected by U.S. intelligence.
The attack claimed the lives of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was visiting Benghazi from the capital of Tripoli, Sean Smith, an information technology specialist, and two security men, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, both former Navy SEALs.
Scores of attackers firing assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades charged the walled compound from two directions, swarmed inside and attacked the main building, setting it afire, witnesses have told McClatchy. Stevens and Smith apparently died from smoke inhalation. Woods and Doherty were shot dead protecting up to 30 U.S. staffers who had taken refuge in a nearby annex.
The consulate compound’s landlord, Mohammed al Bishari, and a 27-year-old guard, who was wounded and asked to remain anonymous, told McClatchy last week that no protest was taking place when the attack was launched at 9:35 p.m. local time. They described the assault as sudden and well-coordinated.
The assailants were carrying the black flag of a local Islamic extremist group, Ansar al Shariah, Bishari said.
Al Qaida is suspected of playing a role because a video posted on the Internet the evening before featured Ayman al Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden’s successor, calling for revenge for the death of his second in command, Abu Yahya al Libi, a Libyan cleric, who was killed in a June 4 CIA drone strike in Pakistan’s tribal region.
Two senior Republican lawmakers questioned the administration’s version of the attack, with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., saying it “defies common sense.” He called for a congressional investigation.
“It is imperative that Congress conduct an investigation into this matter as the two scenarios are vastly different in terms of scope and depth,” Graham said in a statement on Monday. “A planned and coordinated assault points loudly to a security lapse, and the problems associated with such a scenario are much deeper than a violent riot over a film.”
“It is my belief, as stated by the Libyan president, that this was a coordinated attack by al Qaida or like-minded groups,” said Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said he was told by Pentagon and CIA officials that they were “only moderately confident that it was a spontaneous event because there are huge gaps in what we know.”
“I think it’s just too early to make that conclusion,” he told Fox News on Sunday.
Rogers, a former FBI agent, said that the attack “seemed to be military style, coordinated,” featured “indirect fire coordinated with direct-fire rocket attacks,” and took place on the 11th anniversary of al Qaida’s strikes on the United States. The assailants also “repelled a fairly significant Libyan force that came to rescue” the consulate.
“It just has all the markings of an al Qaida-style event,” he said.
Aaron Zelin, an expert on Islamic extremist groups at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said he agreed that the attack was most likely planned in advance because the assailants launched a second attack on the consulate’s safe house, which U.S. officials have been referring to as the annex.
“Not only was there the attack on the consulate, but they knew where that safe house was,” he said. “They had to have some kind of reconnaissance ahead of time.”
“I think that has more to do with the anniversary of 9/11 than anything else,” he said.
He noted that Ansar al Shariah leaders have denied ordering the attack. But they didn’t condemn it, either, he said, adding that it appeared that group members were present “in their individual capacities.”
At the same time, he said there are “no known operational links” between Ansar al Shariah and any al Qaida-affiliated groups operating in the region.
Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said in an email that the administration’s version is “our assessment based on the information available.”
“I can’t speak to the factual basis for statements made by Libyan officials,” he said. He declined to comment on the statements by Rogers and Graham.
Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, laid out the administration’s version on Sunday talk shows.
“Our current best assessment, based on the information we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was spontaneous – not a pre-meditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” she said on ABC News’ “This Week.” “We believe . . . that a small number of people came to the . . . consulate . . . to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons.”
A senior intelligence official who asked not to be further identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the subject offered a similar assessment. “Simply put, while everything is still under investigation, the available information suggests the protests in Cairo inspired what the attackers decided to do later that night in Benghazi,” the official said. “Right now, this points to a plan that was hatched opportunistically that day. Of course, if credible new information suggests otherwise, the investigation will pursue those leads.”
In contrast, Magarief, the Libyan official, told CBS News’ “Face the Nation” that the attack was “planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival.”
The foreigners included people from Algeria and Mali, the North African country whose northern half has been overrun by Islamic militants linked to al Qaida and whose arms are thought to have come from looted Gadhafi storehouses.
In a related development, Wanif al Sharif, the deputy interior minister who was in charge of eastern Libya and headed the investigation, was fired, according to the Libya Herald, because of the attack. Sharif was the only Libyan official to publicly say that there had been a protest before the attack. He didn’t respond to calls Monday seeking comment.
Even before the assault, many Libyans had complained about deteriorating security in Benghazi, where the uprising against Gadhafi first erupted. Scores of rogue militias have been drafted by the government to provide security in the absence of a regular force, and the role of extremists, including members of Ansar al Shariah, has been controversial.
The city is divided block by block among the groups, which have kept the weapons they procured during the uprising. Many of the militias occupy bases lined with tanks and machine-gun mounted trucks and are led by self-styled colonels.
Every time there was a bombing or other attack, Sharif blamed remnants of Gadhafi’s regime, despite evidence that groups empowered by the state were behind the violence, said Michel Cousins, the editor of the Libya Herald. The attack on the compound was the last straw for Libya’s first elected government, he said.
Magarief has been a critic of the Interior Ministry before, blaming it last month for involvement in the destruction of mosques and shrines associated with the moderate Sufi strain of Islam. Interior Minister Fawzi Abdel Al handed in his resignation after Magarief’s criticism, but he rescinded it two days later, saying the threat from Islamist militants was too great for him to step down.
Nancy A. Youssef contributed reporting from Cairo.
Email: jlanday@mcclatchydc.com; Twitter: @jonathanlanday
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/17/168782/us-libyan-officials-offer-vastly.html#storylink=cpy
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Ambassador Stevens Murdered By Terrorists He Helped Bring To Power
September 17, 2012 By Doug Book 21 Comments
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The enthusiastic celebration of Arab Spring by the American left has at last been repudiated by the gruesome realities of Islamic Jihad. But don’t expect to hear much about this sudden intrusion of brutal fact into the left’s pathetic dabblings in American foreign policy. Politically embarrassing events such as the failure to protect American diplomats being murdered and dragged through the streets before cheering throngs rarely make for lasting headlines, especially not when a Democrat president has ignored advance warning of the threat which he more than anyone else was responsible for bringing about.
“Once the US successfully overthrew [Muammar] Gaddafi and began focusing on stabilizing Libya, [Ambassador Christopher] Stevens ceased to be a useful idiot and became a useless nuisance.” This assessment by Frontpage Magazine’s Daniel Greenfield goes directly to the heart of the left’s fantastic belief that becoming best buddies with Islamic terrorists renders American dhimmis immune from a murderous payoff when their services are no longer required.
“[Christopher Stevens] was an avid student of Islam and the Middle East, and consistently strove to build the proverbial bridge between our two cultures in the face of sometimes overwhelming antagonism and bitter misunderstanding,” said a friend of the Ambassador after his murder by the Muslim terrorists Steven’s had done so much to bring to power in Libya.
But Greenfield prefers to describe Stevens as “… a Middle Eastern diplomat who typified the new breed going from the University of Berkeley and the Peace Corps to desks in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Syria.” Years of self-delusion about Islam being a religion which befriends those who actively appease its most radical practitioners caused Stevens to rush back to Libya in April of 2011 when the efforts of the “formerly” Muslim President Obama to oust Muammar Gaddafi had begun to gather steam.
However, it seems that Stevens succeeded only in offering his diplomatic services to many of the same jihadists who later dragged his corpse through Benghazi streets, all no doubt to the cheers of those members of al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood to whom Obama himself had so thoroughly apologized for the unforgiveable religious affronts of the Islamophobic American public.
Many remember the extraordinarily successful appeasement by Jimmy Carter of yet another beacon of the tender mercies of Islamic refinement as the brilliant Georgia peanut farmer betrayed the Shah of Iran in favor of the merciful Ayatollah Khomeini in the Fall of 1979. Of course the American media refused to blame dhimmi Jimmy for the 444 days Americans spent as kidnap victims of the Iranian government, just as today’s mock journalists continue to claim the contents of an obscure 15 minute video to be responsible for Muslim uprisings across the globe. The fact that assaults on the American Embassy in Egypt had been planned before the video was even known to exist apparently just gets in the way of a good story.
Liberal, useful idiots like Stevens will continue to exist in sufficient numbers to betray both American interests and lives throughout the increasingly barbaric nations of the Middle East. But as they continue to advance the farcical notion that “Islamophobic” Americans are somehow responsible for the acts of bestial cruelty practiced for 14 centuries by the sub-human worshippers of a cult of prescribed, “religious” murder, these fools represent an ever increasing danger to the security of the United States and its citizens.
Making foolish gambles with their own lives is one thing. Demanding Americans eventually share their fate by ignoring the evidence of our own eyes is something else. It’s time American’s stop following the march of the radical left to Sharia-mandated extermination.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/ambassador-stevens-murdered-by-terrorists-he-helped-bring-to-power
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NBC News: Obama Administration Not Telling the Truth on Benghazi Security Lapses
TownHall ^
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:57:16 PM by TigerClaws
I'm somewhat mystified by the Obama administration and campaign's continued attempts to convince Americans that the deadly raid on our consulate in Benghazi was not premeditated. They're obviously trying to shield the president from political fallout for the horrifically inadequate security measures at our outpost there, but contradictory evidence is mounting. Libyan officials and eyewitnesses have described the nature of the attack as clearly pre-planned, and US Senators briefed on the matter have drawn similar conclusions. The president has fielded precisely zero questions on this matter (one wonders if he's eager to respond to inquiries about how often he does or does not read the intelligence memos about which he's rarely briefed). He has outsourced the whole Q&A annoyance to various underlings, including UN Ambassador Susan Rice -- who ironically once admitted that her boss was "not ready" for a proverbial 3 am phone call on a pressing international crisis. Appearing on Sunday's Meet the Press, Rice claimed that two of the four American diplomatic staff murdered in Benghazi were security personnel; evidence, she said, that the diplomatic outpost was not unprotected. NBC Nightly News now reports that her assertion was untrue:
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New information suggests White House knew about pending attack on U.S. consulate in Libya
As information on last week’s attack on the U.S. embassy in Libya continues to be released, questions about how much the Obama administration knew and when officials knew it are piling up.
On Friday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters the raid that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and two other Americans was “in response not to United States policy, and not to, obviously, the administration, or the American people, but it is in response to a video, a film that we have judged to be be reprehensible and disgusting.”
U.S. ambassador to the UN Susan Rice said echoed Carney’s explanation on Sunday, claiming that the attacks in Libya were a “spontaneous” response to a “reprehensible” video about the Prophet Muhammed released by an American filmaker, and were not a reflection of anti-American sentiment abroad.
The administration official described the incident as one in which “a mob was ultimately hijacked by a handful of extremists” on CNN’s ”State of the Union.”
“People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent. Those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post revolutionary Libya, and that then spun out of control,” she said on “FOX New Sunday.”
However, Rice was almost immediately contradicted by interim Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif who said that the attack was in fact premeditated.
“The way these perpetrators acted and moved, and their choosing a specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think that this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, pre-determined,” he said Sunday.
Now, news outlets are reporting that the United States did in fact know about the imminent assault three days before it occurred, giving the U.S. an adequate amount of time to secure the consulate ahead of the terrorist threat. Other details of the attacks have also lead those familiar with the situation to believe that the strike was unarguably pre-planned.
Furthermore, respected media company McClatchy is reporting that even the reports about the protest itself are false and no protest was occurring outside the consulate ahead of the attack as the U.S. and Libyan governments are claiming.
And Wired magazine’s “Danger Room” blog reports that contrary to the State Department’s initial claims, a foreign security company named Blue Mountain had been contracted to help protect the United States Embassy in Libya ahead of U.S. officials’ return to the country in the way of the recent Libyan revolution.
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor reportedly told McClatchy in an email that the Obama administration’s version of events is “our assessment based on the information available.”
When asked by ABC’s Jake Tapper on“This Week” why more troops were not stationed at the Libyan embassy, Rice said Sunday that, ”Our presence in Tripoli, as in Benghazi is relatively new, as you’ll recall. We have been back post-revolution, only for a matter of months,” noting that for this reason, the amount of security the U.S. thought was needed was in place at the time.
But with the attack occurring late Tuesday EST, it’s not clear why the White House wouldn’t have been fully briefed on the timeline of events by Sunday morning or why the White House and the State Department still maintain that the attack was not pre-planned nearly a week after it occurred.
Update: During the White House press briefing Tuesday Carney told reporters that the Obama administration has ”provided information about what we believe was the precipitating cause of the protest and the violence, based on the information that we have had available.”
Carney also accused a reporter of “conveniently conflating” the anniversary of the bombing of the World Trade Center and the attack in Libya and said that to his knowledge, the U.S. was not made aware that an attack was in the works in Libya before it occurred, despite what news outlets and the Libyan government are reporting.
“Based on information that we — our initial information, and that includes all information — we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack; that we saw evidence that it was sparked by the reaction to this video,” Carney said in the briefing.
He refused to comment on the Libyan President’s contradictory statement that the attack was pre-planned and doubled down on Ambassador Rice’s previous statements on the incident, saying, “ I would point you to what Ambassador Rice said and others have said about what we know thus far about the video and its influence on the protests that occurred in Cairo, in Benghazi and elsewhere.
“And all I can tell you is that steps are taken, both seen and unseen, in advance of and in preparation for times like the anniversary of 9/11 when it is judged that there might be greater threats. And those steps are based on the threat assessments that we have at the time. But I would refer you in terms of specific security for specific facilities to the State Department,” he said.
By Francesca Chambers /// September 18, 2012
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OBAMA ADMIN SENT UNARMED BRITISH FIRM TO PROTECT U.S. MISSION IN BENGHAZI "No Bullets" ROE
Breitbart ^ | 091812 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 19, 2012 1:05:42 AM EDT by Fred
EDITORS' NOTE: According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration's policy following Muammar Gaddafi's death has been to keep a "low profile" during a chaotic time.
For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a "low profile," the administration didn't even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the "no bullets" Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.
In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.
As of now, the State Department has not disclosed the full State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.
Here is the full story.
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OBAMA ADMIN SENT UNARMED BRITISH FIRM TO PROTECT U.S. MISSION IN BENGHAZI "No Bullets" ROE
Breitbart ^ | 091812 | Michael Patrick Leahy
Posted on September 19, 2012 1:05:42 AM EDT by Fred
EDITORS' NOTE: According to a source close to Breitbart News and high up in the intelligence community, the Obama administration's policy following Muammar Gaddafi's death has been to keep a "low profile" during a chaotic time.
For this reason, according to the source, American Marines were not stationed at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli or the American mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case. In the spirit of a "low profile," the administration didn't even want an American company in charge of private security. Blue Mountain, the British firm the State Department hired, was willing to abide by the "no bullets" Rules of Engagement (ROE), so were a logical fit for the contract. These sub-standard protections for American diplomats were signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the ROE.
In essence, the Obama Administration tasked an unarmed British firm with security responsibilities that should have been handled by armed American servicemen, and it was all approved by the Secretary of State. Needless to say, the plan failed and an Ambassador was murdered, along with several others.
As of now, the State Department has not disclosed the full State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.
Here is the full story.
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LOL @ Sources close to Breitbart high in the intel community... probably bullshit,.. but anyway the story looks spot on in my opinion. The attempt at a low profile agenda has also extended well past Libya. I think 3333 knows what's going on with this but he's happy to use the news for his goals. forbid there might be a bigger story to tell, lets just go with the angle that gets my man elected.....
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LOL @ Sources close to Breitbart high in the intel community... probably bullshit,.. but anyway the story looks spot on in my opinion. The attempt at a low profile agenda has also extended well past Libya. I think 3333 knows what's going on with this but he's happy to use the news for his goals. forbid there might be a bigger story to tell, lets just go with the angle that gets my man elected.....
No, I'm just smitten with being proven right on this mess from Day 1.
I took a ton of shit for saying I preferred Gadaffi in power at the time because obama was supporting the jihadis and it looks i was right.
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No, I'm just smitten with being proven right on this mess from Day 1.
I took a ton of shit for saying I preferred Gadaffi in power at the time because obama was supporting the jihadis and it looks i was right.
I think that's a good call on keeping Gaddafi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam. Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported. Wonder why?
But that's not what I was talking about in my post. You know there's something else going on concerning your post I replied to above. Post it!
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I think that's a good call on keeping Gadaffi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam. Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported. Wonder why?
But that's not what I was talking about in my post. You know there's something else going on concerning your original post. Post it!
I believe that Hillary and the commies in the State Department are appeazing the jihadis and not putting a military presence at these embassies so as to not hurt the sensitivities of the muslim sand rats.
As a result - bad shit happens and people die.
again - its very easy to predict the future w obama.
Step 1. Believe the opposite of anything he ever says or proclaims.
Step 2. Understand that everything he does is meant to destroy or collapse this country and its institutions, reputation, and traditions.
Step 3. Look at his probably long term aim in trying to implement a policy with step 2 in mind.
Step 4. Try to warn people of said plans by obama and get called a nut job.
Step 5. Watch it unfold in front of your eyes
Step 6. Remind obama drones of Step 4.
Step 7. Say 'I told you so" and move on.
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I believe that Hillary and the commies in the State Department are appeazing the jihadis and not putting a military presence at these embassies so as to not hurt the sensitivities of the muslim sand rats.
As a result - bad shit happens and people die.
again - its very easy to predict the future w obama.
Step 1. Believe the opposite of anything he ever says or proclaims.
Step 2. Understand that everything he does is meant to destroy or collapse this country and its institutions, reputation, and traditions.
Step 3. Look at his probably long term aim in trying to implement a policy with step 2 in mind.
Step 4. Try to warn people of said plans by obama and get called a nut job.
Step 5. Watch it unfold in front of your eyes
Step 6. Remind obama drones of Step 4.
Step 7. Say 'I told you so" and move on.
I'm pretty sure I'm absolutely done talking to you ever again. If I wanted this level of pure crap, I would tune into hannity and drop kick the fucking radio out of sight. You know there's something else here and you puke this reply? GFYS YSOS.
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I'm pretty sure I'm absolutely done talking to you ever again. If I wanted this level of pure crap, I would tune into hannity and drop kick the fucking radio out of sight. You know there's something else here and you puke this reply? GFYS YSOS.
LOL - I have said from Day 1 what obama is doing.
He is collapsing the Middle East intentionally in order to create a pan-arab islamist superstate that can balance the power w the EU, USA, Asia, etc.
He wants Iran to be the head of this superstate and get nukes and the rest of the middle east states will be under the umbrella.
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LOL - I have said from Day 1 what obama is doing.
He is collapsing the Middle East intentionally in order to create a pan-arab islamist superstate that can balance the power w the EU, USA, Asia, etc.
He wants Iran to be the head of this superstate and get nukes and the rest of the middle east states will be under the umbrella.
I think you should lay down the crack pipe for a while
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I think that's a good call on keeping Gaddafi in power and there are plenty on the right and left that would flip over that but you're right imo--same thing with Saddam. Kinda starting to look like a pattern of going after dictators that we previously supported. Wonder why?
But that's not what I was talking about in my post. You know there's something else going on concerning your post I replied to above. Post it!
A shit ton of people said to leave both of those clowns alone and let them run their own countries... But what's done is done you know.
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Benghazi Friday Sermon Preacher, "Stab Them in Their Main Artery"
Middle East Media Research Institute ^ | September 14, 2012 | MEMRI
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:12:01 AM by CaptainKrunch
Full title:
Benghazi Friday Sermon Preacher, in Wake of Killing of US Ambassador, Calls to "Detonate Our Wrath upon Them" and "Stab Them in Their Main Artery" - the Economy
Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon in Benghazi, Libya, which aired on Libya Al-Hurra TV on September 14, 2012.
Preacher: Oh nation of Islam, I was so overwhelmed with grief that I could not express it. How could I possibly depict the tragedy that had happened? We remained quiet when they butchered the elderly. We remained quiet when they slaughtered the children. We were restrained when they violated the honor of women. All that is left is the mocking of our Prophet. No, a thousand times no.
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Oh nation of Islam, who will come to the aid of the Messenger of Allah? Who will come to the aid of Muhammad, who sacrificed everything he had in order to deliver us this religion?
Oh, how he suffered for our sake! Oh, how often his honorable face was spat upon for our sake! Oh, how many times he was banished from his land for our sake! After all this, how can we not boycott anyone who attacks our beloved Prophet?
Indeed, oh Muslims, the time has come for us to adopt a firm stance, and to detonate our wrath upon them, with deeds they will not be able to ignore. Let us stab them in their main artery, the secret behind their power. Let us stab them in their economy. The Prophet Muhammad said: "Wage Jihad against the polytheists, using your wealth, your hands, and you tongues."
Oh Allah, destroy the rancorous Christians. Oh Allah, destroy the rancorous Christians and the corrupting Jews. Oh Allah, destroy them for they cannot withstand you.
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Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say
Published September 19, 2012
FoxNews.com
Intelligence sources tell Fox News they are convinced the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was directly tied to Al Qaeda -- with a former Guantanamo detainee involved.
That revelation comes on the same day a top Obama administration official called last week's deadly assault a "terrorist attack" -- the first time the attack has been described that way by the administration after claims it had been a "spontaneous" act.
"Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy," Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said during a Senate hearing Wednesday.
Olsen echoed administration colleagues in saying U.S. officials have no specific intelligence about "significant advanced planning or coordination" for the attack.
However, his statement goes beyond White House Press Secretary Jay Carney and Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, saying the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate was spontaneous. He is the first top administration official to call the strike an act of terrorism.
Sufyan Ben Qumu is thought to have been involved and even may have led the attack, Fox News' intelligence sources said. Qumu, a Libyan, was released from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2007 and transferred into Libyan custody on the condition he be kept in jail. His Guantanamo files also show he has ties to the financiers behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
Olson, repeating Wednesday that the FBI is handling the Benghazi investigation, also acknowledged the attack could lead back to Al Qaeda and its affiliates.
"We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda's affiliates, in particular Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb," he said at the Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing.
Still, Olsen said "the facts that we have now indicate that this was an opportunistic attack on our embassy, the attack began and evolved and escalated over several hours," Olson said.
Carney said hours earlier that there still is "no evidence of a preplanned or pre-meditated attack," which occurred on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks.
"I made that clear last week, Ambassador Rice made that clear Sunday," Carney said at the daily White House press briefing.
Rice appeared on "Fox News Sunday" and four other morning talk shows to say the attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was "spontaneous" and sparked by an early protest that day outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, over an anti-Islamic video.
"It was a reaction to a video that had nothing to do with the United States," Rice told Fox News. "The best information and the best assessment we have today is that this was not a pre-planned, pre-meditated attack. What happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo."
However, that account clashed with claims by the Libyan president that the attack was in fact premeditated. Other sources, including an intelligence source in Libya who spoke to Fox News, have echoed those claims. The intelligence source even said that, contrary to the suggestion by the Obama administration, there was no major protest in Benghazi before the deadly attack which killed four Americans. A U.S. official did not dispute the claim.
In the face of these conflicting accounts, Carney on Tuesday deferred to the ongoing investigation and opened the door to the possibility of other explanations.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/top-administration-official-says-strike-in-libya-was-terror-attack/#ixzz26xoefsdq
oh boy
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Al Qaeda Suspected of Killing U.S. Ambassador
6:05 PM, Sep 19, 2012 • By THOMAS JOSCELYN
The Obama administration has conceded that the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Libya on September 11 was, in fact, an act of terrorism. And intelligence officials suspect that al Qaeda’s affiliate, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), orchestrated the raid.
Matthew Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), said there were “indications” that al Qaeda was responsible during testimony before the Senate Homeland Security Committee today. According to Foreign Policy’s Josh Rogin, Senator Joseph Lieberman asked Olsen about the Benghazi attack. During one of his answers Olsen replied, “I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”
“We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda's affiliates; in particular, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,” Olsen elaborated.
Olsen could not say whether the attack was pre-planned, or if the terrorists simply took advantage of a supposedly spontaneous protest.
During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, CIA director David Petraeus also reportedly pointed the finger at al Qaeda. Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the ranking Democrat on the House Intel Committee, summarized Petraeus’s briefing during an interview with ABC News.
“At this point it looks as if there was a spontaneous situation that occurred and that as a result of that, the extreme groups that were probably connected to al Qaeda took advantage of that situation and then the attack started,” Ruppersberger said.
The role of protesters angered by an anti-Islam film remains in dispute, however.
Thomas Joscelyn is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
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See Kazan - here is what you need to grasp - Obama needs the story to be about the video since if its about the video - obama can continue his policies in creating pan-islamist caliphate to take over the ME headed by the MB.
If the issue is obama's policies, then he can not continue his policies as such.
Remember - obama's goal is to allow Iran to get a nuke and for the MB to take over the ME so that they can shift the balance of power to the ME and weaken the USA.
Obama wants us paying drastically higher oil prices and this is one of the ways he can accomplish that.
Good point.
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Oil prices pretty much went up when America engaged in WAR. You can literally see the pattern before. 1999 yugoslavia. 1989-1991 gulf war/etc... vietnam.. then 2001> afghanistan, iraq, then obama's extra wars in pakistan, somalia, yemen, then of course now libya, syria and what these sickos expect iran. Mark my words, we won't be able to GET TO WORK or GET TO GROCERIES or get groceries if America starts ANOTHER war
(http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/oil_price_1945_2005.png)
And they are dropping initially with obama's election and slowdown in the wars, which then accelerated further
(http://thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/oil-price-history.gif)
Oil barrel pricing is not whats going on... its what the companies in the west are determining as gas pricing. If oil barrel pricing REALLY went up we'd all be fucked and unable to go to work or do our groceries. Then they'd be forced to lower their prices but its such a stinky game!
If you make more war, higher prices will happen. It's that simple.
In Canada when the people complained of gas pricing the corporations responded to the government saying well its their right to set prices anyway they see fit even if oil barrel prices drop.
The thing is each time they increase, they NEVER EVER decrease... I remember when in Canada gas was <49cents a liter!
(http://climate.uvic.ca/people/ewiebe/car/gas_price.png)
(http://delaney55.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/omg-gas-prices.jpg)
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/al-qaeda-suspected-killing-us-ambassador_652731.html
FAIL
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/al-qaeda-suspected-killing-us-ambassador_652731.html
lib = scumbag
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http://www.washingtonguardian.com/revising-libya-story
Obama lied again - go figure.
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http://www.washingtonguardian.com/revising-libya-story
Obama lied again - go figure.
Why the fuck does the media have to clarify 99% of what Obama says? Give me a fucking break..........
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Why the fuck does the media have to clarify 99% of what Obama says? Give me a fucking break..........
Because the leftist incompetent media is doing anying to wallpaper over obama's disastrous failures.
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Because the leftist incompetent media is doing anying to wallpaper over obama's disastrous failures.
The guy can't utter a fucking sentence without it having to be revised 50 times. Half the time it is complete bullshit that has to be "walked back".
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/anti-islam-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Obama lied our ambassador died.
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Obama lied again.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205825/Sufyan-Ben-Qumu-Former-Gitmo-inmate-planned-al-Qaeda-attack-Libyan-consulate.html
Just wow.
hhhmmmm - no mention of a film.
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State Department was discussing putting Marines in Libya 'sometime in the next five years’
Posted By Josh RoginThursday, September 20, 2012 - 1:03 PM Share
Prior to the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, the State Department and the Marines Corps had been discussing deploying Marines to guard the U.S. Embassy in the Libyan capital Tripoli "sometime in the next five years," according to the Marine Corps.
The issue of security at U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya has been front and center as Congress and others begin to investigate whether or not those facilities were sufficiently protected before the attacks that killed Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
The State Department won't discuss the specifics of its security posture in Libya before the attack, but the Marine Corps has briefed congressional staffers on the issue, for example in a Sept. 13 email obtained by The Cable.
"Typically, when a new embassy is established, it takes time to grow a new [Marine Corps Embassy Security Group] detachment," wrote Col. Harold Van Opdorp, director of the Marine Senate Liaison office, in the e-mail. "[In conjunction with] the State Department, there is discussion about establishing a detachment in Tripoli sometime in the next five years."
The State Department did not respond to questions about how high the discussion of deploying Marines to Libya reached, whether that discussion amounted to a recognition that Marines were needed there, or why it might take five years to set it up. A Marine Corps FAST team was deployed to protect the embassy on Sept. 12 after the attack and could stay there indefinitely.
According to the Marines, out of the 285-plus U.S. diplomatic security facilities worldwide, 152 have Marine Corps detachments, primarily to protect the facilities and the classified information they contain.
"Overall, the plan is to grow the number of MCESG detachments worldwide to 173. It is also important to note the detachments are charged with protection of the chancery. Perimeter security is the responsibility of the HN [host nation] police/security forces," Van Opdorp wrote.
Many on Capitol Hill are pressing the State Department for details about the exact security arrangements at the Benghazi consulate, contesting the State Department's repeated assertion that there was a "strong" security presence protecting the facility.
One congressional aide told The Cable that the State Department initially reported to Congress that the security personnel at the embassy consisted of an unarmed local security force and six armed Libyan government personnel.
The Washington Guardian reported Wednesday that the two former Navy SEALs who were killed in the attack were not part of the ambassador's security detail but had unspecified security responsibilities related to the consulate and engaged the attackers after the firefight began.
Lawmakers are still trying to get details about the State Department's security posture in Libya and the heads of the Senate Homeland Security Committee have already called on the department to investigate the security failures surrounding the Benghazi attack.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is set to brief Congress on the issue Thursday afternoon. Earlier this week, she defended the security presence in Benghazi, saying, "Let me assure you that our security in Benghazi included a unit of host government security forces, as well as a local guard force of the kind that we rely on in many places around the world."
Late Wednesday, Pentagon officials briefed House Armed Services Committee members on the Libya attacks, after which Chairman Buck McKeon (R-CA) said that he was increasingly concerned about the lack of security at U.S. diplomatic posts in Libya.
McKeon said it was "inconceivable" that that there were no military personnel stationed in Benghazi, despite a June bomb attack on the consulate, and he said he was "really concerned about the lack of support that the ambassador had, the lack of protection."
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/20/us-usa-libya-security-idUSBRE88J18R20120920
Inside job
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Spinning over Libya
By Boston Herald Editorial Staff
Friday, September 21, 2012 - Updated 12 hours ago
The U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, is dead. Native son Glen Doherty, an ex-Navy SEAL, has just been laid to rest. In all four heroes were lost on Sept. 11 and still the Obama administration continues to lie, obfuscate and shade the truth of what happened that day in Benghazi.
But for the first time this week, one official has stepped forward to reveal some hard truths.
Matthew Olsen, director of the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center, said it is unlikely that Stevens and his team were killed by random protesters.
“I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy,” Olsen told members of the Senate Homeland Security Committee Wednesday. “A number of different elements appear to have been involved in the attack, including individuals connected to militant groups . . . [that] may have made connections to al-Qaida or al-Qaida’s affiliates, including al-Qaida in the Maghreb.”
The revelation came after U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice had insisted on at least three Sunday talk show appearances that it was all about that offensive anti-Muslim YouTube video. After Olsen’s testimony White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.”
But then intent on having it both ways he added, “We have no information at this point to suggest that this is a significantly [emphasis added] pre-planned attack,” Carney said.
And this president has the nerve to criticize Mitt Romney for “shooting first and aiming later.”
Even the head of Libya’s interim government has insisted that the attack was premeditated — that there was nothing “spontaneous” about it.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) wasn’t buying the White House spin. Neither was Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.). And neither should the American public.
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U.S. probes whether Benghazi attackers had inside help
By Mark Hosenball
WASHINGTON | Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:10pm EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. authorities are investigating possible collusion between militants who launched a deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya and locally hired Libyan personnel guarding the facility, three U.S. officials said.
So far there is no proof that the attackers, who killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other U.S. officials, were helped by Libyan security personnel hired by the consulate. One official said the Obama administration was playing down this possibility.
However, all the officials said that the question of whether the attackers had inside help or advice was a serious issue in the U.S. investigation into the attack, which occurred on the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.
Officials discussed the inquiry, still in its initial stages, only on condition of anonymity.
A team of FBI investigators has gone to Libya to lead the investigation.
The question of whether the Benghazi attackers could have been helped by locally hired guards was raised during a hearing on Wednesday by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security.
The panel's top Republican, Senator Susan Collins, asked Matthew Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, whether there were indications of communications between militants and the Libyan guards prior to the attack.
Olsen said this was an issue "better addressed" in closed briefings that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and National Intelligence Director James Clapper were scheduled to give to Congress on Thursday afternoon.
One possible indication of suspicious activity on the part of Libyan guards at the consulate is a cryptic message which Sean Smith, an American diplomat killed in the Benghazi attack, sent to friends in the online gaming community, in which he was a long-time participant.
A gaming website called The Mittani on September 12 posted what it said was a message Smith sent before his death. In the message, a person using the screen-name "Vile_rat", which The Mittani said was Smith's, the writer said: "assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures."
U.S. officials familiar with investigations into the attack had no immediate comment on Smith's purported message.
The State Department has said Blue Mountain Group, a private security company based in Carmarthen, Wales, had a contract related to vetting and hiring local residents to perform security tasks at the Benghazi consulate.
A government contracting database shows the department signed a contract of this nature last May for $387,000, with options raising the value to $783,000. The database entry, which does not name Blue Mountain Group, describes the work the contractor was supposed to do as "Local Guard Program - Benghazi."
Blue Mountain Group's Internet homepage describes it as a security company whose personnel had "many years" service in British special forces, including the Britain's two most elite commando units, the Special Air Service and Special Boat Service.
A person who answered the phone at Blue Mountain Group's offices declined to comment.
British authorities shut their consulate in Benghazi earlier this year after a convoy carrying the British ambassador was attacked by militants with a rocket-propelled grenade. Two bodyguards were injured but Ambassador Dominic Asquith escaped unhurt. British authorities have said that violent Islamic factions are more prevalent in Benghazi and its surrounding area than other parts of Libya.
One group that has been linked to the attack is Ansar al Sharia, or Supporters of Sharia. U.S. officials acknowledged this week that a leader of that militant faction is a former inmate of the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The officials told Reuters that the militant leader, known as Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed bin Qumu, was released from Guantanamo in 2007 by President George W. Bush's administration.
The officials said that it was unclear whether Qumu participated in or helped to direct the Benghazi attack. At least one purported Ansar al Sharia spokesman has denied the group's involvement in the violence.
(Additional reporting by Andrew Quinn and Warren Strobel; Editing by Claudia Parsons)
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Republican senators decry ‘useless, worthless' Clinton briefing on Libya attack
Posted By Josh RoginThursday, September 20, 2012 - 6:23 PM Share
Several high-level GOP senators emerged from Thursday afternoon's classified briefing with top administration officials incensed that Obama team had offered them no new information and answered none of their questions about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that resulted in the death of four Americans.
"That was the most useless, worthless briefing that I have attended in a long time. Believe me, there is more written in every major and minor publication in America about what happened." said Senate Foreign Relations Committee member Bob Corker (R-TN), emerging from the all-senators briefing that included Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Deputy Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Joint Chiefs Vice Chairman Adm. Sandy Winnefeld. "It was like a one-hour filibuster with absolutely not one single bit of new information being brought forth... very disappointing."
Corker said that the briefing was so poorly received by senators that it would spur Congress to push for more independent investigations about the causes of the attack, the perpetrators, the security at the consulate, and the personal security of Amb. Chris Stevens, who died in the attack.
"[The briefing], if anything, built far greater distrust about what's happening than just answering questions. It was pretty unbelievable," said Corker. "In every event, when a serious question was asked, the answer was, ‘It's under investigation.' If I were them I would not have come to the Hill ... I think it is going to cause folks to push for something different, because it was received so poorly."
Senate Armed Services Committee ranking Republican John McCain (R-AZ) agreed and said the briefing was indicative of the administration's pattern of not sharing information with Congress about important national security matters. He also said the administration is maintaining its argument that the Benghazi attack was the result of militants taking advantage of protests spurred by an anti-Islam video on the Internet.
"I learned nothing in that briefing that I hadn't seen or read in the media," said McCain. "They still are blaming the video and they have a fundamental misunderstanding. It's not the video; it's the Islamists that are pushing this video throughout the world to inflame passions on the part of people of the Muslim faith."
McCain highlighted recent statements from administration officials acknowledging that the Benghazi incident was a "terrorist attack" and said that while he didn't know exactly how long it had been pre-planned, there was mounting evidence that significant planning did go into the assault.
"It's very likely that there is a terrorist organization, affiliated with al Qaeda, that at least had some role in this attack, which had mortars, heavy equipment, and rocket propelled grenades -- not exactly a spontaneous demonstration," McCain said, citing open source information, not the briefing, which was classified.
Senate Foreign Relations Committee member Marco Rubio (R-FL) was also critical of the briefing, and said that the situation in Benghazi was materially different from protests last week in Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, and other places, where protesters cited the video directly.
"The only demonstrations in Libya have been anti-terrorist demonstrations. Compare Libya to the other countries -- in Libya, there aren't anti-American protests going on there," Rubio said. "We heard on Sunday that this was all the result of a YouTube video; now it's clear that's not the case. [The administration is] not accurately assessing what happened in Libya, and that's not helping anyone."
Democratic senators emerging from the briefing declined to speak with reporters. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said earlier Thursday, "It is self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack," but maintained that there was no specific intelligence pointing to planning by the attackers in advance.
Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns was in Tripoli Thursday and met with Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf, Prime Minister Abdul-Rahim al-Keeb, the new Prime Minister-Elect Mustafa Abushagur, and Foreign Minister Ashour Bin Khayal. Burns also delivered remarks at a memorial service for Stevens and the three other Americans killed.
"Chris would be the first to remind us that dignity, respect, hope, and freedom are powerful words and noble aspirations -- but translating them into reality takes hard work and great sacrifice. That is the responsibility before all Libyans, and before all of us in America and around the world who remain committed to supporting you in this crucial effort. There are formidable tasks ahead: to build democratic institutions to safeguard human rights for every Libyan; to build security institutions to protect your own citizens and the diplomats who serve here; to build an economy which realizes the full potential of all Libyans," he said.
"None of this will be easy. It will take time. There will be more difficult moments along the way. But you have already achieved so much, and so much more is possible. Libyans will have to continue to make hard choices, to live up to your responsibilities, and to ensure that violent extremists don't hijack the promise of your revolution."
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Yet another cover up for the administration, Hilary may have just sunk her chances of a 2016 run with this disaster
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Yet another cover up for the administration, Hilary may have just sunk her chances of a 2016 run with this disaster
The the marxist left failure is actually good thing if it helps collapse the nation and shrink our power.
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Obama Donor Heads Organization that Freed Terrorist Accused of Plotting Attack in Benghazi
http://www.menrec.com/2012/09/obama-donor-heads-organization-that.html
There are reports tonight that a radical left-wing organization is responsible for helping to free a former detainee at Guantanamo Bay named Abu Sufian bin Qumu. Bin Qumu has been cited by multiple sources at Fox News as at least being involved with, and possibly playing the lead role in the attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Those attacks resulted in the deaths of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other American diplomats.
Michelle Malkin has revealed that the Center for Constitutional Rights represented Qumu and helped lead the charge in freeing him back in 2007.
Longtime readers know that I’ve extensively covered the troublesome conflict of interest at the Department of Justice involving Attorney General Eric Holder and his former law firm, Covington and Burling, which has represented a score of Gitmo detainees. See my archive of posts on the matter here. Many readers have asked whether the firm represented Abu Sufian bin Qumu, the former Gitmo detainee released in 2007 — and now named as the possible lead plotter in the bloody attacks on our consulate personnel, staff, and private security contractors in Benghazi.
The left-wing organization that helped spring Qumu was the Center for Constitutional Rights. Last April, the group issued an indignant press release painting Qumu as a harmless victim and blasting those concerned about his unrepentant jihadi ways. After a trove of Gitmo documents found their way to Wikileaks and were published by the New York Times, CCR rose to Qumu’s defense and parroted jihadi propaganda that the aggrieved Qumu was actually a friend of the U.S.
President Emeritus of the CCR, Michael Ratner, has long advocated for closing Guantanamo Bay's doors, and for the right of Gitmo detainees within. In a 2009 article for the Huffington Post, Ratner sings the praises of his organization's efforts, calling the release of two thirds of Gitmo detainees an "amazing success".
While feeling that terrorists caught on the battlefield were privy to the same rights as ordinary Americans, Ratner also repeatedly advocated for the prosecution of senior-level Bush administration officials, calling the detention of those terrorists, like bin Qumu, unlawful. His op-ed for CNN made a case for prosecuting former President George W. Bush for torture under the War Crimes Act.
In other words, terrorists captured on the battlefield were being held illegally, but the Bush administration officials who were gathering intelligence from those terrorists should be tried for war crimes.
In 2008, Ratner signed an endorsement for Barack Obama in his presidential bid, based on a belief that Obama would best represent the rights of Gitmo detainees. He and 79 other lawyers said in a joint statement, that they believed Obama was the best choice to roll back the Bush-Cheney administration's detention policies in the war on terrorism and thereby to "restore the rule of law, demonstrate our commitment to human rights, and repair our reputation in the world community."
Ratner, on the same day as endorsing Obama in word, also endorsed through donation, sending $2,300 to the Obama campaign.
Sadly for Ratner, much like other voters in 2008, he became disillusioned with President Obama, stating recently that there is little difference between the humans rights policies of Obama and those of Bush.
The question now is, will Ratner also call for Obama to be charged for war crimes violations?
And will he admit the danger involved in releasing terrorists that have a high rate of recidivism upon gaining freedom? His organization played a key role in the release of a man who would later launch a terrorist attack on sovereign U.S. soil.
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Libyan Official: ‘We Don’t Have Enough Power’ To Catch US Ambassador’s Killers
September 21, 2012 9:06 AM
An armed man waves his rifle as buildings and cars are engulfed in flames after being set on fire inside the U.S. consulate compound in Benghazi late on Sept. 11, 2012. (credit: STR/AFP/Getty Images)
WASHINGTON (CBSDC) — A Libyan official admitted they will most likely not be able to find the killers behind the deadly attack at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last week.
Interior Ministry spokesman Izzedine Fezzen told CBS News that Libya just doesn’t have the “power” to find the attackers who killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
“We don’t have enough power to catch them,” Fezzen said.
Benghazi’s attorney general also told CBS News that they don’t have the “expertise or technology to do a proper investigation.”
The FBI will be handling the investigation.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Thursday that the attack on the consulate was a form of terrorism, but during an interview with Univision, President Obama explained that he still doesn’t know if the deadly attack was terrorism.
“We’re still doing an investigation and there will be different circumstances in different countries,” Obama told Univision.
CBS News has learned that officials are focusing on Islamist militia Ansar al Sharia for the attack.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_CLINTON?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-21-13-45-17
Hillary finally admitting the truth. Funny obama, misery be upon him, lied about this too.
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Video of Stevens Murder: What Really Happened
Video which some news outlets claimed had showed Libyans trying to save Ambassador Stevens turns out to show the opposite.
By Elad Benari
First Publish: 9/21/2012, 4:43 AM
The U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is seen in flames during a protest
Reuters
A video released over the weekend, which some news outlets claimed had showed Libyan men trying to save U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens as his body is recovered from the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, has turned out to show the opposite.
Arutz Sheva posted a report on the video with the translation given by prominent news sources, but raised immediate doubts as to the authenticity of its interpretation, which have now been shown to be well founded.
According to an alternative translation provided to Alex Jones' Infowars by a native Arabic speaker, there is no evidence whatsoever that the men in the video are pleased Stevens is still alive or are trying to rescue him.
In fact, the video appears to show the men celebrating the fact that he is dead. Stevens is hauled out of the window and dumped on the floor as the men stick cameras in his face, fist pump the air and chant, “Allahu Akbar” (G-d is great), which is routinely shouted by Islamic radicals following a successful attack.
There is no indication whatsoever that the men are attempting to save Stevens’ life or get him to a hospital.
Note: Viewer discretion is advised as the video is somewhat graphic. Stevens' body is clearly visible, albeit briefly, about halfway through.
Right at the start of the clip, the men are heard shouting “sawer sawer,” meaning “film, film,” hardly the actions of people concerned with saving a dying man, noted Infowars.
“At no point does someone say ‘he’s alive’ after the body is pulled out,” the Arabic speaker told the site, adding that the men seem very excited to see Stevens’ body, overwhelmingly suggesting they are reveling in his death, not trying to save his life.
The video also contradicts reports that Stevens managed to escape the consulate but was killed either en route or inside a nearby safe house.
Reports in other outlets indicated that the one of the men said: "Is there a doctor around? Does anyone know a doctor?” Another person was reported to have checked the pulse of the victim.
A report in the New York Times quoted the men as having said, “The man is alive. Move out of the way,” others shout. Just bring him out, man.”
“Move, move, he is still alive! Alive, Alive! G-d is great,” the report quoted the men as saying as someone calls to bring Stevens to a car.
Infowars noted that the New York Times’ translation of the video appears to have originated from a Twitter user who supported both the U.S.-backed assault in Libya and the attempt to topple President Bashar Assad in Syria by supporting the same Islamic militants.
Meanwhile on Thursday, CNN reported that Stevens had said he was on Al-Qaeda’s hit list. A source familiar with Stevens' thinking told CNN that in the months leading up to his death, Stevens had been worried about Al-Qaeda’s stepped-up presence in Libya and mentioned that his name was on an Al-Qaeda hit list.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, however, was quoted by CNN as having said Thursday she has "absolutely no information or reason to believe there is any basis" to suggest that Stevens believed he was on an Al-Qaeda hit list.
Also on Thursday the White House, after insisting for eight days that the deadly attack on the consulate in Benghazi was a "spontaneous" act, conceded that it was "self evident" that it was an act of terror. The 9/11 date was seen as not coincidental.
As the search continues for those directly involved in the attack on the embassy in Benghazi, it was revealed Thursday that a former inmate of the Gunatanamo Bay detention facility may have been the leader of the attack.
Former inmate Sufyan Ben Qumu, one of the leaders of Ansar al-Sharia, a militant Islamist group based in Derna, Libya, has been identified by local officials as being involved in the attack in Benghazi that killed the ambassador.
Click here for Phyllis Chesler's analysis.
So the lying ghetto thug lied again!
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Posted at 12:11 PM ET, 09/21/2012
Obama’s embassy cover story dissolves
By Jennifer Rubin
It is a measure of how skewed the reporting is and how intellectually inconsistent is most of the “analysis” from the mainstream media that while Mitt Romney’s comment on the embassy attacks held the attention of the press for days (when in fact he had correctly surmised that the administration was trying to make excuses for the embassy attack by expressing regret over an anti-Muslim video), there has been comparatively little concern with a much more critical story: Did the Obama team intentionally lie to voters (or just shoot first and aim later) for a week about what it knew, and did the deaths of four Americans result, in part, from defective security and preparation at the Benghazi consulate? Well, thankfully some reporters are beginning to perk up, although the “opinion makers” are trying their best to bury their heads in the sand, wary, no doubt, about attacking the president and effectively admitting they had failed to grasp the real story.
There is ample evidence that the administration screwed up. The Wall Street Journal has a must-read in-depth report that explains what the administration has refused to tell us:
The deadly assault on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya on Sept. 11 was preceded by a succession of security lapses and misjudgments, compounded by fog-of-battle decisions, that raise questions about whether the scope of the tragedy could have been contained.
U.S. officials issued alerts and ordered security precautions in neighboring Egypt ahead of protests and violence on Sept. 11, but largely overlooked the possibility of trouble at other diplomatic postings in the region.
The State Department chose to maintain only limited security in Benghazi, Libya, despite months of sporadic attacks there on U.S. and other Western missions
That is a scandal of the first order, which in any unbiased media environment would be the biggest story of the year and reason to demand a full explanation from the White House. Did Obama and his advisers incorrectly assess the ongoing threat of jihadists, lack sufficient intelligence on the ground in Libya (after chest-thumping about our leading-from-behind strategy in the war) and fail to grasp that blaming a video is only feeding into the mentality of the jihadists (i.e., the West is to blame for violence)?
Now, let’s see how the administration, either by mendacity or incompetence, put out a false story of the attacks, which is now shredding day by day.
For a week the White House press secretary, the ambassador to the United Nations and the president told us this was about an anti-Muslim video, was spontaneous and did not reflect on the United States or its policies. Then yesterday, as news reports and lawmakers were decrying this as patently false (and the day after a national security official called the assault a “terrorist” attack), the White House changed its tune. Jay Carney for the first time used “terrorist” in connection with the attack. And the president for the first time conceded that the video was a pretext. The Associated Press reports:
President Barack Obama said Thursday that extremists used an anti-Islam video as an excuse to assault U.S. interests overseas, including an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.
The president’s comments came as Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton faced questions from members of the House and Senate about the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate in Benghazi in a series of closed-door classified briefings on Capitol Hill. . . .
“What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests,” the president said at a candidate forum on the Spanish-language network Univision.
Asked if that meant al-Qaida, Obama said, “We don’t know yet.”
In short, only under pressure from outside reports and lawmakers, who openly disputed the administration’s cover story and blew up over a useless briefing, did the administration try an about-face.
There is no way to reconcile the first Obama story (spontaneous, all about the movie) and the new version (terrorism, the movie was a pretext). By definition, terrorists don’t act spontaneously, nor do they get offended by movies. They are “offended” by the West and are at war with us.
National security reporter Eli Lake is one of the few to connect the dots and point the finger back to the White House. He writes:
Ten days after the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the White House’s official story about the incident appears to be falling apart.
In the days following the killing of the U.S. ambassador and two ex-Navy SEALs, President Obama and top State Department officials portrayed the attack as a spontaneous reaction to an Internet video depicting the Muslim prophet Mohammad as a lascivious brute. The protests, White House spokesman Jay Carney said last week, were “in response to a video—a film—that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting.”
It remains an open question whether the administration was intentionally misleading the public so as to avoid the appearance of an administration failure, or was simply making things up without pinning down the facts (what the Democrats accused Romney of doing). Lake quotes a retired CIA official as saying: “I think this is a case of an administration saying what they wished to be true before waiting for all the facts to come in.” That’s the most generous take on what happened.
But now that we know the administration was wrong, why no demands for an apology, let alone an explanation? Why do the pundits turn a blind eye after raking Romney over the coals for calling out the administration’s first sniveling responses to the attack?
The State Department spokeswoman was doing her best yesterday to be nondefinitive:
QUESTION: Before we leave this part of the world, can I just ask you about reporting out there? That’s – a former Guantanamo detainee – detainees – is believed to have been behind the attack in Benghazi.
MS. NULAND: I saw that report. Frankly, I don’t have anything for you on it one way or the other. The intelligence community, I expect, will speak to it.
That might be the most honest thing said since the murders occurred, namely that the Obama administration doesn’t know very much.
There is, as always, a media scandal here, a deliberate effort, conservatives believe, to construct narratives that favor the president. But that is small potatoes compared with the mounting evidence of a scandal in the Obama administration. If the administration was negligent in planning, convinced of its own spin (the war on terror is over!) and politicized national security to aid the president's reelection campaign, that is all a big deal. In any event, it should make for an interesting foreign policy presidential debate.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/anti-islam-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Obama lied our ambassador died.
What did he lie about?
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What did he lie about?
He lied about the film being the cause of the terrorist attack.
The film had ZERO do with anything.
Obama / Hillarys policies and incompetence and delusions are the cause of the problems.
OBAMA = GLOBAL FAILURE
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U.S. envoy Christopher Stevens, killed by terrorists in Libya.
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The facts as they’ve emerged point inescapably to the conclusion that America suffered the country’s worst terrorist attack since 9/11 in the consular assault that killed four Americans in Libya.
The intense quality of the violence, including the use of heavy weaponry, suggested as much from the start. Yet fully nine days passed before President Obama’s spokesman clearly admitted the truth — while suggesting it should have been obvious to the public all along.
“It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack,” press secretary Jay Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One.
Self-evident? Not exactly.
While Obama spoke of “acts of terror” in his initial statement on the attack, his administration went to great lengths to paint the episode as an outburst triggered by fury over the movie trailer that insulted the Prophet Muhammed.
Most visibly, United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice insisted on Sunday: “Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo,” where mobs first set upon an American embassy.
Eventually, she added, the action in Libya “seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons.”
Obama stuck to emphasizing the video as a driving force even after Carney acknowledged that a terror attack had taken the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three colleagues. Said the President, whose reelection campaign has touted his role in killing Osama Bin Laden:
“I don’t want to speak to something until we have all the information. The natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests.”
On Friday, it then fell to Secretary of State Clinton to endorse that the U.S. is, in fact, dealing with an act of terror, not a deadly temper tantrum.
That same day, administration officials speaking as anonymous sources revealed that at least 50 people, many wearing masks, some on gun trucks, participated in the assault in Benghazi.
Accounts in the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times described the attackers taking command of the consular compound, setting a building ablaze with diesel fuel, driving the Americans to a hoped-for safehouse and ambushing them there with mortar fire.
Away from the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, no organized enemy has pulled off an orchestrated attack against the U.S. of this magnitude since 9/11. The assault is part of Obama’s record, one that demands far more presidential candor.
VIA NY Daily News.
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AP: Benghazi consulate attack was led by 50 masked men using “military: tacticsUpdate.....
Hotair ^ | 6:36 pm on September 21, 2012 | Allahpundit
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:13:20 AM by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Update: Libyan officials “absolutely convinced” attack was planned
I don’t want to inch too far out on the limb here, but I’m starting to suspect that this was preplanned.
U.S. intelligence indicates that 50 or more people, many of them masked, were responsible for the Sept. 11 assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi. Gun trucks provided added firepower. The attackers set up a perimeter, controlling access in and out of the compound. A first wave of attacks sent the Americans fleeing to a fallback building, where a second group of extremists beset them with precise mortar fire.
Intelligence reports were still coming in, but officials told The Associated Press that what may have initially seemed like a protest over an anti-Islam movie that had spun out of control now showed the hallmarks of a more sophisticated operation.
In a country coming off a civil war, a level of battlefield savvy does not prove the attack on the compound was planned well in advance. How much planning went into the operation and whether it could have been detected or prevented remain unanswered questions, officials said.
I’ve made this point before, but the debate we’re mired in over how “preplanned” the operation was is so stupid that it’s worth making again. Isn’t it more damning of the administration if the attack was planned in a few hours rather than a few weeks? If your consulate is smack dab in the middle of an area that’s teeming with jihadist groups that are heavily armed, battle-seasoned, and able to operate with impunity thanks to a barely functioning central government, then it’s incumbent upon the State Department to provide strong security at the consulate. You can’t rely on U.S. intelligence to detect and disrupt a plot in advance, since there are too many militias to keep close tabs on and there won’t necessarily be much “advance” time. You need armed troops prepared for the worst already in place. What did we get instead? Ask the Wall Street Journal:
U.S. officials issued alerts and ordered security precautions in neighboring Egypt ahead of protests and violence on Sept. 11, but largely overlooked the possibility of trouble at other diplomatic postings in the region.
The State Department chose to maintain only limited security in Benghazi, Libya, despite months of sporadic attacks there on U.S. and other Western missions. And while the U.S. said it would ask Libya to boost security there, it did so just once, for a one-week period in June, according to Libyan officials.
The U.S. didn’t seriously consider sending in the military during the attack. It summoned rapid-response teams of Marines only after the U.S. ambassador was dead. State Department officials said they doubted the Pentagon could have mobilized a rescue force quickly enough to make a difference during the fighting. The Pentagon waited for guidance from State, which is responsible for diplomatic security, a senior military official said…
The apparent lapses extended to firefighting equipment. Rescue attempts at the main building were thwarted in part by the absence of smoke-protection masks and fire extinguishers, said Libyan guards.
To repeat: Insofar as some sort of sophisticated attack on the consulate was foreseeable from the day the building opened, it was “preplanned” — and yet, presumably to keep a “light footprint” in the area and not antagonize local jihadists with an American “occupation” presence, Chris Stevens was left essentially defenseless. The Libyans who own the villa rented by U.S. diplomats told Reuters they were shocked to see how few precautions were taken, basically nothing beyond the kind of security cameras and barbed wire that middle-class Benghazians already use. There weren’t even concentric rings of security to defend the building if/when the outer wall was first breached.
Here’s House Armed Services Committee chair Buck McKeon tenderly noting, “You hate to think that the president would purposely mislead the American people, but it sure looks like it to me.” Exit question: Has anyone come up with a solid explanation yet for how this militia knew Stevens was at the consulate that night? He wasn’t based in Benghazi, remember; the embassy is in Tripoli. He was there temporarily, and yet somehow the local jihadis caught him at just the right moment. Amazing how they managed to put together a “spontaneous” attack on a night when Stevens just happened to be in town, huh?
About 100 attackers carried out a “coordinated assault” last week on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, intelligence sources tell Fox News, further discrediting earlier Obama administration claims that the deadly attack was a “spontaneous” outburst in response to an anti-Islam film.
Fox News’ sources say the attack came in two waves and involved rocket-propelled grenades, as well as mortar fire, and both the consulate and safe house were attacked seemingly with inside knowledge.
Libyan officials are now “absolutely convinced” the attack was preplanned, sources say, adding to recent indications that Al Qaeda was involved, specifically a former Guantanamo detainee named Sufyan Ben Qumu.
It’s as self-serving for Libyan officials to believe it was preplanned as it is for U.S. intel to believe it was spontaneous, as it slightly mitigates their failure to defend the consulate. But the facts sure are on their side. A hundred attackers, in two separate waves? Sounds like the only thing that was “spontaneous” about this was the tip they got from inside the consulate that Stevens was in the building.
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CNN Reveals Finding Ambassador Christopher Stevens' Journal And Discloses Reporting With It
Posted: 09/22/2012 10:26 am EDT Updated: 09/22/2012 10:37 am EDT
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NEW YORK -- Anderson Cooper revealed Friday night that CNN had found U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens' personal journal following the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that killed him and acknowledged the network used the journal in its reporting without previously disclosing the source.
On Wednesday on his show, "Anderson Cooper 360," Cooper told Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) that "a source familiar with Ambassador Stevens' thinking told us that in the months before his death he talked about being worried about the never-ending security threats that he was facing in Benghazi and specifically about the rise in Islamic extremism and growing al Qaeda presence." The source, Cooper continued, "also mentioned [Stevens] being on an al Qaeda hit list."
But what Cooper didn't reveal at the time was that CNN's sourcing was tied, at least partially, to Stevens' thinking as written in his personal journal.
The Huffington Post reached out to CNN Friday afternoon after receiving a tip that the network may have obtained Stevens' journal. CNN had no immediate comment, but referred to Cooper's comments after they aired.
On Friday's "Anderson Cooper 360," which airs at 8 p.m., Cooper acknowledged the network had obtained the journal and that it played a role in CNN's reporting.
On Wednesday of this week, we reported that a source familiar with Ambassador Stevens' thinking said in the months before his death, Ambassador Stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in Benghazi.
We also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in Islamic extremism, the growing Al Qaeda presence in Libya and said he was on an Al Qaeda hit list. The information for that report, like all of CNN's reporting, was carefully vetted. Some of that information was found in a personal journal of Ambassador Stevens in his handwriting.
We came upon the journal through our reporting and notified the family. At their request, we returned that journal to them. We reported what we found newsworthy in the ambassador's writings. A reporter followed up on what we found newsworthy, as I said, in the ambassador's writings.
Shortly after 1 a.m. Saturday, CNN published an un-bylined story online with more details about the journal, saying it was found "on the floor of the largely unsecured consulate compound where [Stevens] was fatally wounded." From the CNN.com story:
CNN notified Stevens' family about the journal within hours after it was discovered and at the family's request provided it to them via a third party.
The journal consists of just seven pages of handwriting in a hard-bound book.
For CNN, the ambassador's writings served as tips about the situation in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular. CNN took the newsworthy tips and corroborated them with other sources.
A source familiar with Stevens' thinking told CNN earlier this week that, in the months leading up to his death, the late ambassador worried about what he called the security threats in Benghazi and a rise in Islamic extremism.
CNN has done extensive reporting in the 10 days following the consulate attack and had senior international correspondent Arwa Damon reporting on the ground in Benghazi shortly after the attack. And according to the un-bylined article, CNN only used the journal for "tips" and therefore the "source familiar with Ambassador Stevens' thinking" is not Stevens' own writing.
But it's still unclear to what extent the journal played into CNN's reporting, and most importantly, why the network did not reveal having seen it until Friday night on air. It's also not unclear why CNN did not immediately return the journal to the authorities investigating the attack. (The State Department did not immediately offer comment Friday regarding the journal).
"We came upon the journal through our reporting and notified the family," a CNN spokeswoman told The Huffington Post late Friday night. "At their request, we returned it to them. We reported on what we found newsworthy in the Ambassador's writings."
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Six Libyan security forces 'executed' in Benghazi
A Libyan demonstrator holds up a gun as others flash the victory sign and a car burns in the background near the headquarters of the hardline Islamist group Ansar el-Sharia in Benghazi. Six members of Libya's security forces were killed, apparently "executed," after clashes in Benghazi pitting protesters against a defence ministry brigade, a Libyan medical examiner told AFP Saturday.
AFP - Six members of Libya's security forces were killed, apparently "executed," after clashes in Benghazi pitting protesters against a defence ministry brigade, a Libyan medical examiner told AFP Saturday.
"From the nature of the wounds it is clear that the six were executed," the medical examiner said on condition of anonymity, adding that four of them were shot in the head while the others were shot in the chest as well as the head.
An official at the prosecutor's office confirmed the toll.
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Posted on September 23, 2012 1:21:06 AM EDT by Nachum
Forget the 3 AM phone call. Obama couldn’t even be trusted with an 11 PM phone call. They say that only a man with a clear conscience, or no conscience at all, can sleep this way. But hey, he had to be rested for the next fundraiser and the next party. Jay-Z and Beyonce, unlike dead ambassadors and Libyan militias, actually matter.
Fox News’ Special Report informed us that Barack Obama knew of the attack on the Libyan consulate within 90 minutes of it beginning. There is no doubt that Obama knew that the attacks involved AK-47s, along with Rocket propelled grenades. He knew that his ambassador was in grave danger and yet knowing all of this, and not knowing the status of Ambassador Stevens, Obama allegedly went quietly to bed
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told on a second hahahahahaahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaah sorry :D :D :D :D
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/22/world/africa/libya-ambassador-journal/index.html
The Imam in Thief lied again
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Sacking of Benghazi consulate “a catastrophic intelligence loss”
Hotair ^ | 12:01 pm on September 24, 2012 | by Ed Morrissey
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2012 10:54:28 PM by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Among the more obvious catastrophes of the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi — the loss of a dedicated diplomat in J. Christopher Stevens and three brave Americans who tried to defend the station — is perhaps a more significant loss for our counter-terrorism operations in the region. The New York Times reported last night that the CIA considers the loss of the Benghazi consulate as “a catastrophic intelligence loss,” which prompts even more questions about security for the site:
The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans has dealt the Central Intelligence Agency a major setback in its intelligence-gathering efforts at a time of increasing instability in the North African nation.
Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of militant armed groups in and around the city.
“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”
Before we go farther, has the FBI actually begun investigating the scene of the “crime”? According to CBS News this morning, the answer is no:use it for broadcast. Shouldn’t that raise a few questions about the American response to this attack, too, that State can ignore?
The NYT analysis of this attack shows even further how silly the initial administration spin was. The station had been compromised, something Stevens apparently knew, as was their fallback safe house, which he discovered far too late. That strongly suggests that the terrorist network(s) that conducted this attack had significant data on the American mission in the eastern part of Libya, and attacked it not just for reasons of prestige. These networks have begun operating much more openly since the US-led NATO military mission deposed Moammar Qaddafi, and the CIA needed to keep track of groups like al-Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb and Ansar al-Sharia.
Now that we know that this station was critical to American intelligence efforts in an area rife with the kind of terrorist networks we have been fighting for the last eleven years, one has to ask why it was left so poorly secured. That question was relevant even without the CIA connection, as the terrorist networks had already made Benghazi an unsafe place for the US to conduct normal diplomatic tasks. If this was as critical an intelligence post as the NYT report suggests, the weak security arrangements can only be seen as staggeringly incompetent — and worthy of a major Congressional investigation.
The bottom line, though, is that we’ve lost an important post to keep track of the radical Islamists set loose by the NATO intervention Obama championed. It’s nothing short of a “catastrophe” for American security.>
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http://www.debbieschlussel.com/54687/us-amb-to-libya-stevens-reduced-embassy-security-didnt-want-to-offend-muslims
September 24, 2012, - 3:30 pm
US Amb to Libya Stevens Reduced Embassy Security b/c Didn’t Want to Offend Muslims
By Debbie Schlussel
Chris Stevens and three others died in Libya because Stevens didn’t want to offend Muslims by having adequate security. Putz.
The attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and the murder of the U.S. Ambassador and three others is the fault not only of Hillary Clinton’s State Department–which was responsible for security and screwed it up big-time–but also the fault of Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The comedy of errors began with him, as he felt that adequate security might offend the savage Muslims he helped put into power. Stevens wanted to avoid the appearance of a “militarized U.S. presence” and instead, show “faith” in Libya’s newly installed animals. Whatta moron! It’s truly disgusting. Three lives other than his own paid the ultimate price for Stevens’ political correctness.
They Were Murdered Because . . .
. . . This Dhimmi Idiot Didn’t Want to Offend Muslims w/ Adequate Security
Current and former officials said the security choices in Benghazi reflected efforts by Mr. Stevens to maintain a low-profile security posture and show faith in Libya’s new leaders, despite questions about their ability to rein in heavily armed bands of militants. Officials say Mr. Stevens personally advised against having Marines posted at the embassy in Tripoli, apparently to avoid a militarized U.S. presence.
The security plan for the consulate also reflected confidence Mr. Stevens felt in a city where he worked for months with rebels battling Moammar Gadhafi’s rule. State Department officials said he didn’t consult with Washington before traveling to Benghazi, located in an area that has become notorious for its volatile mix of Islamist militancy and heavy weaponry.
Total dumbass!
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Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack
NBC News ^ | Sept. 26, 2012 | NBC News staff
Posted on September 26, 2012 3:12:50 AM EDT by Free ThinkerNY
An anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had "nothing to do with" a deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this month, Libya's president told NBC News.
In an exclusive interview with NBC News' Ann Curry, President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube. He noted that the assault happened on Sept. 11 and that the video had been available for months before that.
"Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September," he said. "They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message."
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