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Title: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: blacken700 on September 12, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Unless the Romney campaign has gamed this crisis out in some manner completely invisible to the Gang of 500, his doubling down on criticism of the President for the statement coming out of Cairo is likely to be seen as one of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campaign.

http://thepage.time.com/2012/09/12/romney-and-foreign-policy/


Romney’s decision to use a fatal attack on Americans as an opportunity to seek political gain based on a complete lie is just the latest example of his copyrighted #romneyshambles campaign. It is a classic #romneyfail.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/09/12/when-youve-lost-halperin-and-his-500/
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/12/13828189-romney-fails-critical-leadership-test


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Jumping Ship Update:

Romney’s decision to weigh in is generating criticism from fellow Republicans. Former Sen. John Sununu of New Hampshire said on MSNBC Wednesday morning: “They probably should have waited. … You look at the way things unfolded, you look at the timing of it, they probably should have waited.”
http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/romney-campaign-denies-acting-rashly-on-libyan-situation-20120912

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Bracing for trouble before the start of the protests here and in Libya, the American Embassy released a statement shortly after noon that appeared to refer to Mr. Jones : "The United States Embassy in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions." It later denounced the "unjustified breach of our embassy."

Apparently unaware of the timing of the first embassy statement, the Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, put out a statement just before midnight Tuesday saying, "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks." Mr. Romney also said he was "outraged" at the attacks on the embassy and consulate.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/three-quick-points-on-the-libya-killings/262263/

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romneys-false-libya-attack-puts-him-way-ahead-of-mainstream-gop.php?ref=fpblg
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: GigantorX on September 12, 2012, 03:20:22 PM
The media is doing all it can to deflect  this foreign policy disaster from Obama.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: blacken700 on September 12, 2012, 04:41:20 PM
romney  is doing all it can to deflect  this foreign policy disaster from Obama.  :D

Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 02:57:54 AM
The media is doing all it can to deflect  this foreign policy disaster from Obama.

Pathetic.

It was Romneys decision to appear in front of the cameras so WTF are you talking about ???
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 03:06:05 AM
It was Romneys decision to appear in front of the cameras so WTF are you talking about ???

STFU knee padder.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
STFU knee padder.

What an intelligent response ::)

You really are the stereo typical neocon.

Dumb as shit but thinks he has all the answers. Fuck of failure you dont have the brain capacity to argue with grown men
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
What an intelligent response ::)

You really are the stereo typical neocon.

Dumb as shit but thinks he has all the answers. Fuck of failure you dont have the brain capacity to argue with grown men

Romney was 100 percent correct to call out the disastrous policies of this Marxist maggot in the WH.  Funk him, fuk his wife and aunt and uncle, and F you! 
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 03:29:39 AM
Romney was 100 percent correct to call out the disastrous policies of this Marxist maggot in the WH.  Funk him, fuk his wife and aunt and uncle, and F you! 

Yeah you really debunked my claim that neocons are stupid here ::)

Keep going retard your only digging your hole deeper
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 03:42:32 AM
Skip to comments.

For Barack Obama, Muslims can do no wrong
Washington Times ^ | Kate Obenshain
Posted on September 14, 2012 3:01:55 AM EDT by neverdem

On 9/11, in response to an anti-Islam video that went viral on YouTube last week, Obama's Egyptian embassy released a statement deploring “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” This is beyond imagination: On 9/11, the anniversary of the attacks by radical Islamists on our nation, Islamic protestors compromised the U.S. embassy in Cairo, tearing the American flag to shreds to cries of “We are Usama!” and the Obama administration responds that our concern needs to be the “hurt feelings” of Muslims.

The administration’s response in Libya was not much better, placing condemnation of “denigrating religious beliefs” over outrage at the killing of our ambassador and other diplomatic staff there. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a statement saying that while the United States “deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

Finally, on Wednesday morning, Obama condemned “the outrageous attack.” The entire administration response is noteworthy for being short on outrage over the blatant attacks against America in the name of Islam. Yet coming from this administration, the weak response should surprise no one.

In June 2009 Obama spoke in Cairo, Egypt, saying he wanted “a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect.” But this is the part that gave us a clue of what was to come: “I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: headhuntersix on September 14, 2012, 04:14:09 AM
This is a absolute disaster for Obama that the media is trying real hard to shield him from.Any time Obama has to deviate from the Bush playbook he steps on his dick. No security...CIA failed to act etc etc. I hope Romney keeps hammering him...pictures of 1979...over and over and over again. Obama is a pussy...he was prodded into Bin Laden...he uses drones because the Admin is risk averse......drones and airstrikes can only do so much. If they hadn't convinced Barry that 2000lbs JDAMs weren't the answer in Pakistan, we'd have no idea that Bin Laden was dead..and it would have killed a shit ton of paki's to boot. The Bush built JSOC killers supported by the Bush built intell services killed Obama....Barry is on his own here...he BUILT IT..he OWNS its.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 05:21:51 AM
This is a absolute disaster for Obama that the media is trying real hard to shield him from.Any time Obama has to deviate from the Bush playbook he steps on his dick. No security...CIA failed to act etc etc. I hope Romney keeps hammering him...pictures of 1979...over and over and over again. Obama is a pussy...he was prodded into Bin Laden...he uses drones because the Admin is risk averse......drones and airstrikes can only do so much. If they hadn't convinced Barry that 2000lbs JDAMs weren't the answer in Pakistan, we'd have no idea that Bin Laden was dead..and it would have killed a shit ton of paki's to boot. The Bush built JSOC killers supported by the Bush built intell services killed Obama....Barry is on his own here...he BUILT IT..he OWNS its.

You make our troops look bad. Please stop posting and shoot something instead.

Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
You make our troops look bad. Please stop posting and shoot something instead.



Fuck you asshole.   He is Major in the USMC for fucks sake moron.

Typical obama slaves attack everything to prop up their failed messiah   
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 05:25:46 AM
Fuck you asshole.   He is Major in the USMC for fucks sake moron.

Typical obama slaves attack everything to prop up their failed messiah   

And he is doing a great job.
Keep at it HH6.

You have no future in politics(thats a compliment by the way).

I respect your service unlike the politicians
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: flipper5470 on September 14, 2012, 06:19:55 AM
Romney has been two things on this issue that Obama hasn't...consistent and correct.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
Romney has been two things on this issue that Obama hasn't...consistent and correct.

Romney’s decision to use a fatal attack on Americans as an opportunity to seek political gain based on a complete lie

How do you make a lie = Correct  ?
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: flipper5470 on September 14, 2012, 06:27:34 AM
Obama has fucked this situation up from day one.  Obama has played politics with the war on terror since the 2008 campaign using the deaths of servicemen and Bin Laden to further his political agenda.   Romeny is perfectly justified in pointing out the failures...
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: headhuntersix on September 14, 2012, 06:36:30 AM
Come on boys, the media is covering for Obama...this looks exactly like 1979. Now Romney isn't Reagan and he'll pull out of Afghanistan in 2014 just like Obama is, but arab spring shit has been a cluster from day one. If your isolationist like paul..then you don't care...as long as the policy is consistant, thats fine. That can be debated later.....but if your in..ala drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen...then your all in. make sure the damm Egyptian army calls the shots, back them with cash and help them wack the leaders of the Muslim brotherhood...i don't know...but do something other then like the wack jobs take over.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: headhuntersix on September 14, 2012, 06:40:17 AM
You make our troops look bad. Please stop posting and shoot something instead.




Not this tour...my days of that shit are over. My day revolves around chow and my training in the gym....and endless meetings to no where.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 06:43:35 AM
Romney’s decision to use a fatal attack on Americans as an opportunity to seek political gain based on a complete lie

How do you make a lie = Correct  ?

What was the lie you stupid fucking worthless sack of trash? 

The embassy put the apology on the website you ignorant hack. 
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: headhuntersix on September 14, 2012, 06:47:25 AM
...DOS has always been left leaning...now its full of wack job idealists eager to get back at 8 years of Bush's boys doing their thing.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2012, 07:02:46 AM
What was the lie you stupid fucking worthless sack of trash? 

The embassy put the apology on the website you ignorant hack. 

And this is the crux of the issue. The dumbass's in DC see everything an American prism, apologies don't work in the ME.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 07:20:33 AM

Not this tour...my days of that shit are over. My day revolves around chow and my training in the gym....and endless meetings to no where.

Im glad you are alive and well.

I respect your service.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: whork on September 14, 2012, 07:21:43 AM
What was the lie you stupid fucking worthless sack of trash? 

The embassy put the apology on the website you ignorant hack. 


The attack from Romney was on Obama not the... I give up.

Romney is a hero Obama is a communist traitor and the world is black and white. Happy?
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 07:22:59 AM

The attack from Romney was on Obama not the... I give up.

Romney is a hero Obama is a communist traitor and the world is black and white. Happy?


State Department is part of Obama Admn moron.   
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
This is a absolute disaster for Obama that the media is trying real hard to shield him from.Any time Obama has to deviate from the Bush playbook he steps on his dick. No security...CIA failed to act etc etc. I hope Romney keeps hammering him...pictures of 1979...over and over and over again. Obama is a pussy...he was prodded into Bin Laden...he uses drones because the Admin is risk averse......drones and airstrikes can only do so much. If they hadn't convinced Barry that 2000lbs JDAMs weren't the answer in Pakistan, we'd have no idea that Bin Laden was dead..and it would have killed a shit ton of paki's to boot. The Bush built JSOC killers supported by the Bush built intell services killed Obama....Barry is on his own here...he BUILT IT..he OWNS its.

what was Reagans response when the marine barracks were bombed in 1983


Romneys comments PRECEDED the deaths of the terrorist attack (it was not just a mob that went too far) and it's political malpractice to make comments such as Romeny did as a situation was escalating

just fucking stupid and craven and totally unbecoming the office which he seeks
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 11:20:49 AM
what was Reagans response when the marine barracks were bombed in 1983


Romneys comments PRECEDED the deaths of the terrorist attack (it was not just a mob that went too far) and it's political malpractice to make comments such as Romeny did as a situation was escalating

just fucking stupid and craven and totally unbecoming the office which he seeks


Whatever moron.  He responded to Obama Admn making a pathetic apology to the egyptians. 


Your piece of shit messiah has so fucked up foregin policy its not even funny any more. 
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2012, 11:34:12 AM
Whatever moron.  He responded to Obama Admn making a pathetic apology to the egyptians. 


Your piece of shit messiah has so fucked up foregin policy its not even funny any more. 

you seem to know even less about the facts than Romney

Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
you seem to know even less about the facts than Romney



Whatever asshole - it was right on the Embassy website. 

Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 14, 2012, 11:44:14 AM
you seem to know even less about the facts than Romney



Nothing new at all about that.

The closer the election gets the more intense his little meltdowns are.
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2012, 11:47:48 AM
Whatever asshole - it was right on the Embassy website. 

Romney's statement was in response to a statement put out by the embassy prior to any violence

I know facts are irrelevent to you but people who don't suffer from your particular type of brain damage know what a horrible move this was by the Romney campaign from both a political persepctive and from the persepctive of someone who wants to actually lead this country.    He just doesn't have the aptitude for the job and that has just become painfully apparent
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
Romney's statement was in response to a statement put out by the embassy prior to any violence

I know facts are irrelevent to you but people who don't suffer from your particular type of brain damage know what a horrible move this was by the Romney campaign from both a political persepctive and from the persepctive of someone who wants to actually lead this country.    He just doesn't have the aptitude for the job and that has just become painfully apparent

And they put that out in response to the film dipshit. 

Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2012, 11:55:25 AM
And they put that out in response to the film dipshit. 

yeah, that's what diplomats do you f'ng dumbass

and Romney decided to attempt a craven political attack without even knowing the facts and while the situation was escalating

if I didn't know better I'd guess he had a moron such as yourself giving him "advices"
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
yeah, that's what diplomats do you f'ng dumbass

and Romney decided to attempt a craven political attack without even knowing the facts and while the situation was escalating

if I didn't know better I'd guess he had a moron such as yourself giving him "advices"


LOL - yeah under obama of course - make apologies for the nation. 
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2012, 12:08:14 PM

LOL - yeah under obama of course - make apologies for the nation. 

you do understand that Romney responded to a statement by the embassy and that statement was not an apology (that what Romney charactrized it as)

here is the statement that Romney was referring to in his horribly ill-advised statement

keep in mind, I don't expect someone as profoundly stupid as yourself, someone who believes Obama said you didn't build your own business, to give a rats ass about actual facts

Quote
Tuesday, Sept. 11, Cairo, Egypt

Early Tuesday morning, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo got word that demonstrators, angry about an anti-Islamic film produced in the U.S., were gathering in the streets. It issued a safety warning to Americans: Stay out of the streets.

As the situation became increasingly tense— but while the crowd was still peaceful—the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued a statement condemning what it called "religious incitement" as it worked to calm the tensions.

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said at 6:18 a.m. EDT, shortly after noon Cairo time.

That's the statement that Romney referred to as the administration's "first response." By Wednesday morning, the Republican nominee was at a podium in Jacksonville, Fla., saying that statement "appeared to be an apology for American principles." It's a theme Romney has hammered against Obama throughout his presidential campaign, including in his campaign book, "No Apology."

But the embassy's condemnation of religious incitement hardly amounted to an apology.
Romney also said Wednesday that the Cairo Embassy "put out a statement after their grounds had been breached. Protesters were inside the grounds. They reiterated that statement after the breach."

Not quite. Almost five hours after the Cairo Embassy issued its statement—at about 11:15 a.m. EDT—Associated Press images show protesters atop the Cairo Embassy's walls. At about 11:33 a.m. EDT, the American flag there had come down.

The embassy did use its Twitter account to say, at about 8 p.m. EDT, that "this morning's condemnation ... still stands." The tweet was later deleted.

The Obama administration later backed away from the embassy's statement entirely. "That statement was not coordinated with Washington. It was taken down," a senior administration official said.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_21543165/fact-checking-romneys-statements-libya-attacks
Title: Re: TIME: One of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campa
Post by: Hawk on September 14, 2012, 08:57:31 PM
Nothing new at all about that.

The closer the election gets the more intense his little meltdowns are.

Yeah, 333386 seems to be melting at an alarming rate nowadays.

All of his posts are angry, profanity-laced tirades devoid of any sense. Pretty much just insults.

 I think he is beginning to realize that election day is not going to go well for him.  :-\