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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on September 16, 2012, 08:21:32 AM
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(http://www.titanstrengthandpower.com/images/articles/PatCasey1_web.jpg)
Before steroids.
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(http://www.davedraper.com/site%20images/Pat-Casey-Incline-DB-220s.jpg)
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(http://www.titanstrengthandpower.com/images/articles/PatCasey1_web.jpg)
Before steroids.
Well hes hardly mr olympia is he now
Oh yeah looks like shit hope this helps
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(http://powerliftinghub.com/images/caseyprofile.jpg)
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YyoU0unwdog/TLmTKCX9hbI/AAAAAAAAAgo/rOf3FJEFcgs/s1600/Pat_Casey_1.jpg)
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(http://www.benchpresschampion.com/CHAMPIONS2/Casey.jpg)
This man would snap the neck of chocolate bunny "Mr. O" Phil Heath.
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yeah everyone can become a massively overweight, borderline obese, waterlooged fatzo naturally.
steroids are used in order to build lean muscle, not bloat.
whats new?
So I'm assuming you're outbenching his numbers?
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your mentally ill if you think hes not used steroids.
goof ball.
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So I'm assuming you're outbenching his numbers?
(http://www.missfitnesslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Miss_Fitness_working_out_making_you_fat_lifter.jpg)
If it was being strong and looking fit and healthy I know what I would choose.
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Thanks BLS for posting those beautiful pics of the Legend himself.
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His best lifts were done late 60's - early 70's. Also he's #330 - 340 in many pictures, so he's holding the weight well. Also, steroids or not, he was physically a large man, here's a pic a bit before he died -
(http://davedraper.com/site%20images/george-frenn-and-pat-casey.jpg).
Also in the pic is George Frenn, another famous powerlifter that passed.
Casey was a terrible smoker, and passed of lung cancer I believe.
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Never saw that pic BB, also didn't know PC was a smoker.
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Some people think just because a pic is black & white, its pre-steroids, and everyone had morals, there was no crime, it was a perfect world with the birds chirping and flowers blossoming. Like every other Ironage forum member
Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced. Reeves, Park, Grimek, yes, all the holier than thou names used
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gross.
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we need 15 to come on over here and tell us pat's stack, so that he can con us into buying some of his gear :D :D :D
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naturals who are deluded about whats possible, these are amongst the dumbest, most ignorant people walking earth.
Do you mean the people that believe that selective God given genes were attributed to some, and due to that and their super human work ethic and clean living, they achieved feats that are normally reserved for a chemically enhanced elite ?
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we need 15 to come on over here and tell us pat's stack, so that he can con us into buying some of his gear :D :D :D
^^
THIS is why I LOVE GetBig... ;D
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Never saw that pic BB, also didn't know PC was a smoker.
Yeah, I remember a joke he made that he'd go running for cardio, and then smoke afterward.
As far as steroids, yes, he probably used, he was a star in powerlifting then, and he was very much a part of the scene with Bill Pearl, and other name lifters and strongmen, so he wasn't just some farmer that came out of the woods one day. Also he was great across all three lifts which is rare for a natural, he was the first to squat 800lbs plus, and also the first to go over #2000 in total.
Also, just from a personal experience, late in his career, he spoke of wanting to give up the life style because his heath was bothering him, usually life style is code for other things.
P.S. - he was also a competitive bodybuilder early on, while not great, he did place decently.
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BB LEX, Thanks for posting those Casey photos. I was no further than 10 feet away when a couple of those shots were taken.
So I hope you don’t mind if I take some time and space to “remenis’. (I can’t spell ‘reminis” .... but it does mean a humble attempt to recall some good old days and good old people most of whom have long passed away ..... so I may not be as accurate at reminiscing as I use to be.)
But I did know Pat and some of his friends back then in the early 1960's when Wes was most likely a ‘twinkel in his old man’s eye’. I think that’s an old time Irish saying.
Anyway it was a sunny Saturday morning and I was stationed at Camp Pendleton with a 48 hour pass , got up early, and started the short drive down to San Diego to watch some big kid attempt to set a new 600 pound bench press record in some SD Police Academy “Gym” close to the San Diego Zoo - which becomes somewhat of intertest later on in this storty.
Some of you GetBiggers have read my shit before – so I gotta ask ya not to disclose the ending,
I was there because I happened to be a strong kid from many years of climbing very tall trees (but never Redwoods because they were ‘sacred’ among my Indian tribe friends) and lifting heavy things before, during, and after school; so I was there to see if any human being could actually bench-press 600 pounds; and possibly be an active witness to ‘Odd Lift History”.
If I recall this moment of history correctly, this big kid by the name of ‘Pat’ was going to make a 600 pound bench attempt and set a new record which would b e accepted or rejected by whomever ran the selection/rejection process in them good old days.
This 600 pound attempt was going to be ‘attempted’ in a small area that appeared to be the Police Academy locker room with one 10x10 area reserved for a wobbily bench (see photo) and an Olympic bar and numerous 45 pound plates that were more or less 45 pounds each.
The AAU wasn’t involved because they were only interested in bodybuilding if it was held in support of local Olympic Lifting contests, and the IFBB was just a fledging baby in numerous P.O. Boxes throughout the civilized and uncivilized world where some local kid would stop by and pick up a letter or two each month addressed to someone named IFBB.
And the NPC was still unborne and wasn’t even a ‘twinkle’ in anyone’s eye just yet.
So I don’t even know if this was sanctioned or if the ‘judges’ were ‘official’ but I will admit that everyone was damn serious with one particular goal in mind … getting Pat psyched up to set a record!
And I forget the details but Pat did manage to get his 600 pound bench and it looked damn good to me.
No arch in his back.
Arms fully extended.
Both feet on the floor.
Etc, Etc.
But what the hell did I know about officiating!?
I was just a kid who liked to lift heavy things and see others who could lift heavier things than I could lift. And I had to leave Pendleton and go to San Diego to see that happen because climbing trees at an early age (No Redwoods, Chief!) caused me to respect thoese few individuals who were stronger than myself … as well as those individuals who made every attempt to become just as strong.
And to this very day .... I still respect them. Natural or Supernatural ... it makes no difference to me at all.
Yada, yada, yada.
So I only realized that Pat had a last name immediately after he set that new bench press record..
And although I’ve forgotten most of the finer details of that day, I’lll always remembetr that the lion made a tremendous ROAR as soon as Pat Casey made that lift.
And most of us followed suit and roared as well because someone was able to do what back then was tought to be impossible to get done and PC let us know what could be done …… If one really wanted to “DONE IT”!
BB LEX, you are most definitely INCORRECT about your pre-steroid statement.
I don’t recall the exact dates those photos were taken but I’m gonna guess around 1962 – 63 when I could walk into any drug store and purchase a bottle of D-Bol (I think it was D-Bol) without a prescription.
And it the early 60’s in SoCal the roids were just starting to become in vogue among the very few individuals who lifted heavy things on a daily basis.
Thiose were the good old days of Bill “Peanuts” West, George Frenn, Rev Zuver, the Dungeon, Pearl, Hoffman, Mabel and Perry, Joe and Ben and so many others whom I also knew but presently cannot recall.
Each of them were major contributors to what you all seem to love or hate so venhemently today, (I can’t sell that word either.)
I could tell ya so much more but …. Then I’d have to shoot ya!
Thanks , BB LEX!
Cliff Notes are $10 each
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So I'm assuming you're outbenching his numbers?
Steroids do waaay less for strength than they do for muscle hypertrophy...
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dear retarded "bodybuilder lex reeves"....
i dont give the slightest shit about what i bench, i train for a lean and muscular physique, not to be an obese looking guy who can claim some meaningless bench number.
now what makes you think id care what this enourmously out of shape person lifts?
he looks like someone shat 300lbs of diarhhea into a condom
teh funny
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Its true, most of us could look that fat and gain strength every workout by eating like a fat man but thats not exactly why most people lift! Yes its good to soothe the ego by heavy benching at times but most people lift to look better , not to be a fat guy who is super strong! Props to this guys strength but it really means nothing in life how strong you are! It wont make you a great fighter,wont make you get women, and it sure wont win you a bodybuilding contest....
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Generally the strength adjustment for a steroid user in the power sports is something like -
25% give or take in Powerlifting.
15% Olympic lifting.
10% Throwing.
Generally the more complex a task, the less steroids help, but they still do help.
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A gallon of milk a day and enough dbol to kill a horse could have most people putting up some big numbers, but Casey was genetically super gifted for strength as well as being an oral and bacon loaded bloat-pig
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A gallon of milk a day and enough dbol to kill a horse could have most people putting up some big numbers, but Casey was genetically super gifted for strength as well as being an oral and bacon loaded bloat-pig
well if he would have injected 15's gh then he would have been a ripped and gnarly beast making all pussies dripping wet
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A gallon of milk a day and enough dbol to kill a horse could have most people putting up some big numbers, but Casey was genetically super gifted for strength as well as being an oral and bacon loaded bloat-pig
He had a wide waist and a barrel chest. He was a big dude---meant to put up big numbers...his physique reminds me of a smaller Andre the Giant, but with a bigger chest.
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He had a wide waist and a barrel chest. He was a big dude---meant to put up big numbers...his physique reminds me of a smaller Andre the Giant, but with a bigger chest.
barrel chest plus short arms=big bench
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8)
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>:(
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:o
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;D
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what kind of surname is Casey? Anglo-Saxon or maybe Scottish?
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dear retarded "bodybuilder lex reeves"....
i dont give the slightest shit about what i bench, i train for a lean and muscular physique, not to be an obese looking guy who can claim some meaningless bench number.
now what makes you think id care what this enourmously out of shape person lifts?
he looks like someone shat 300lbs of diarhhea into a condom
And so do many of today's top bodybuilders. Just more muscular poo filled condoms. Call them "pleasure ribs" or "sensi-dots" comdoms if it makes you feel any better, brother. ;D
But yeah, I agree with you. I would rather be more muscular but Pat Casey is one of the all time greats of the iron game.
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dear retarded "bodybuilder lex reeves"....
i dont give the slightest shit about what i bench, i train for a lean and muscular physique, not to be an obese looking guy who can claim some meaningless bench number.
now what makes you think id care what this enourmously out of shape person lifts?
he looks like someone shat 300lbs of diarhhea into a condom
Translation="I am a weakling."
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Physique-wise, not much different from some WSM competitors
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Its true, most of us could look that fat and gain strength every workout by eating like a fat man but thats not exactly why most people lift! Yes its good to soothe the ego by heavy benching at times but most people lift to look better , not to be a fat guy who is super strong! Props to this guys strength but it really means nothing in life how strong you are! It wont make you a great fighter,wont make you get women, and it sure wont win you a bodybuilding contest....
So you're saying you "soothe the ego by heavy benching" 600 lbs. raw "at times"?
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I'm sure my obese nephew could put up some insane numbers as well. Let alone if he actually trained for some time. How much did Fat Casey weigh? Lifting heavy things becomes a lot easier if you weigh as much as you lift.
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I'm sure my obese nephew could put up some insane numbers as well. Let alone if he actually trained for some time. How much did Fat Casey weigh? Lifting heavy things becomes a lot easier if you weigh as much as you lift.
Bit over 6' and was #320 - 340 when he was putting up low #600's, but he had large lifts when he was in the low #200's also.
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Pat Casey. Now there's a man who had no intention of selling his asshole for a plastic BBing trophy.
Benched 425 @ 215, age 17. First to bench 500. First to bench 600. First to squat 800. First to total 2000. Better recognize!
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Pat Casey. Now there's a man who had no intention of selling his asshole for a plastic BBing trophy.
Benched 425 @ 215, age 17. First to bench 500. First to bench 600. First to squat 800. First to total 2000. Better recognize!
Impressive numbers
How much could he upright row?
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not natural lol....
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what kind of surname is Casey? Anglo-Saxon or maybe Scottish?
LOL. It's a very, very, VERY common Irish name.
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LOL. It's a very, very, VERY common Irish name.
;D ;D ;D
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Pat did D-Bol...
D-Bol gives strength and size like galeniko said.
Look at the bloat.
So what, a strength legend either way..
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Unless the guy in the black and white "before" pictures was once 500 pounds and lost a shitload of weight, those stretch marks across the chest tell the story of hormone usage.
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Good old school shit right there.
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Steroids do waaay less for strength than they do for muscle hypertrophy...
You're a funny guy.
So putting one hundred or more pounds on one of the major lifts within several months isn't too dramatic, right?
Also, Casey was using, 100 percent. Not that this is some big deal.
Fact is, he pressed a poundage many decades ago that still only a handful of folks today can do. I have no doubt he didn't pause the rep and I have little doubt he did, in fact, have an arch of some sort, as this is only prudent and wise (arching the back is paramount to maintain shoulder integrity and properly mechanically "set" the upper body, after all), but still, what a number.
Oh, one other thing. Physical strength and durability is, in a natural world, a more valuable commodity than is a ripped and sinewy body.
Hope this helps.
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Its true, most of us could look that fat and gain strength every workout by eating like a fat man but thats not exactly why most people lift! Yes its good to soothe the ego by heavy benching at times but most people lift to look better , not to be a fat guy who is super strong! Props to this guys strength but it really means nothing in life how strong you are! It wont make you a great fighter,wont make you get women, and it sure wont win you a bodybuilding contest....
True, but it will greatly advantage a person attempting to defend himself.
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Some people think just because a pic is black & white, its pre-steroids, and everyone had morals, there was no crime, it was a perfect world with the birds chirping and flowers blossoming. Like every other Ironage forum member
Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced. Reeves, Park, Grimek, yes, all the holier than thou names used
When did Reeves say he juiced? I have never heard that. He was built pre World War II when he was 16 years old. During the war he kept a 110 pound barbell with him that he used to rep out with when he was stationed in the Pacific during world war II and he was built. The first anabolic steriod was made was in the late 1950's. The only thing they had back then was straight test and I have never read anywhere that any lifter was using it for building muscle prior to the 60's. The first written case for straight testosterone for sports were the Russian olympic lifters in the late 50's and early 60's. Show me anything written in the 40's of bodybuilders using drugs. There isn't any.
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(http://www.titanstrengthandpower.com/images/articles/PatCasey1_web.jpg)
Before steroids.
Thats not Eli Manning.
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Oh, one other thing. Physical strength and durability is, in a natural world, a more valuable commodity than is a ripped and sinewy body.
yeah, but since it's an "unnatural world," physical strength only benefits manual laborers... maybe. Pretty sure the falcons of the world just stand all day using power tools.
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I'm sure my obese nephew could put up some insane numbers as well. Let alone if he actually trained for some time. How much did Fat Casey weigh? Lifting heavy things becomes a lot easier if you weigh as much as you lift.
The statement above perfectly highlights how unknowledgable a great many of you truly are.
It's staggering, really.
When you're a weak person who can only kinda-sorta grasp a top elite poundage, you're best served to keep your mouth shut. You really have no idea.
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The statement above perfectly highlights how unknowledgable a great many of you truly are.
It's staggering, really.
When you're a weak person who can only kinda-sorta grasp a top elite poundage, you're best served to keep your mouth shut. You really have no idea.
Again, I'll quote the great Bob Chic: "It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift."
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yeah, but since it's an "unnatural world," physical strength only benefits manual laborers... maybe. Pretty sure the falcons of the world just stand all day using power tools.
Ah, you're a metro sexual. Got it.
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Again, I'll quote the great Bob Chic: "It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift."
I despise a man who would state such a thing.
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Pat Casey. Now there's a man who had no intention of selling his asshole for a plastic BBing trophy.
Benched 425 @ 215, age 17. First to bench 500. First to bench 600. First to squat 800. First to total 2000. Better recognize!
Ok, in that case, ok :)
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The statement above perfectly highlights how unknowledgable a great many of you truly are.
It's staggering, really.
When you're a weak person who can only kinda-sorta grasp a top elite poundage, you're best served to keep your mouth shut. You really have no idea.
I've seen it happen several times, an obese guy walks into a gym for the first time and does a rep with 405, what is to understand? If you weigh 405, it is not a feat.
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Test was being played with as far back as 1938...
http://endo.endojournals.org/content/23/2.toc
There was a book about it also in the late 30's (test therapy), so Reeves could have used. No one knows..
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I've seen it happen several times, an obese guy walks into a gym for the first time and does a rep with 405, what is to understand? If you weigh 405, it is not a feat.
lol
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When did Reeves say he juiced? I have never heard that. He was built pre World War II when he was 16 years old. During the war he kept a 110 pound barbell with him that he used to rep out with when he was stationed in the Pacific during world war II and he was built. The first anabolic steriod was made was in the late 1950's. The only thing they had back then was straight test and I have never read anywhere that any lifter was using it for building muscle prior to the 60's. The first written case for straight testosterone for sports were the Russian olympic lifters in the late 50's and early 60's. Show me anything written in the 40's of bodybuilders using drugs. There isn't any.
Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced.
Musclemag magazine. The monthly interview feature they did on people. It was a nice long feature, where reeves detailed his diet, training, and thoughts Some time in early 90s, maybe 1992 He jokes that the guys asked him him if he was on the juice, he said he thought they meant orange juice, this was when he was a kid, a teen.
Are you looking for footage where during an outake of filming hercules, reeves turns to the camera and suddenly confesses anabolic use? That was unlikely to happen, since all bodybuilders lie about their use
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Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced.
Musclemag magazine. The monthly interview feature they did on people. It was a nice long feature, where reeves detailed his diet, training, and thoughts Some time in early 90s, maybe 1992 He jokes that the guys asked him him if he was on the juice, he said he thought they meant orange juice, this was when he was a kid, a teen.
Are you looking for footage where during an outake of filming hercules, reeves turns to the camera and suddenly confesses anabolic use? That was unlikely to happen, since all bodybuilders lie about their use
QFT
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Test was being played with as far back as 1938...
http://endo.endojournals.org/content/23/2.toc
There was a book about it also in the late 30's (test therapy), so Reeves could have used. No one knows..
Yes, synthetic test was available in the 1930s
But I'm sure all the York guys, including Grimek all knew and had access to, but due to their deep moral fibres, and cast in stone iron resolve, solely relied upon God-given genetics and pure hard work-ethic, shunning such advances in the supplementation of muscle-building.
Please understand, steroids were not immoral, illegal, nor cheating then. Only around the 60s did weider and lurie start the propaganda, to go along with moral issues. What I'm saying is they were doing "nothing wrong". But obviously, post 1982, steroids became evil, and NOBODY would ever admit, and if too obvious or caught out, they'd say they took a little once, deep into their career, it did nothing for them, and they only did it because everyone else was.
And that, is how pearl(5mg nilevar once), scott(5mg dbol once) park, reeves, grimek, became pure, unadulterated deities of the physique world. Such genetics and what morals. Wow.
There is no way they would ever admit it. Just like if you go and ask phil heath or jay cutler now, they can't admit it, and won't.
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There is no way they would ever admit it. Just like if you go and ask phil heath or jay cutler now, they can't admit it, and won't.
Pretty much admitted it there didnt he?
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Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced.
Musclemag magazine. The monthly interview feature they did on people. It was a nice long feature, where reeves detailed his diet, training, and thoughts Some time in early 90s, maybe 1992 He jokes that the guys asked him him if he was on the juice, he said he thought they meant orange juice, this was when he was a kid, a teen.
Are you looking for footage where during an outake of filming hercules, reeves turns to the camera and suddenly confesses anabolic use? That was unlikely to happen, since all bodybuilders lie about their use
Bob Kennedy knew Reeves and told me point-blank that Steve used.
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I've seen it happen several times, an obese guy walks into a gym for the first time and does a rep with 405, what is to understand? If you weigh 405, it is not a feat.
HORSESHIT
It's an extremely RARE man who, overweight or not, can press 400 pounds without considerable training.
You're so out to lunch, buddy.
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and contracts
Yes, the "weider lifestyle" clashes with anabolic use
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Bob Kennedy knew Reeves and told me point-blank that he Steve used.
Were you personally surprised to hear this? You're a smart guy with extensive knowledge of weight training and an inside view for many years, serious question.
Did bob kennedy elaborate?
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So I'm assuming you're outbenching his numbers?
Its Bodybuilding not powerlifting. Most fat people who lift seriously, can lift heavy. doesnt make me wanna be fat tho!
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Reeves himself mentioned in an interview regarding guys in his gym as a kid asking if he juiced.
Musclemag magazine. The monthly interview feature they did on people. It was a nice long feature, where reeves detailed his diet, training, and thoughts Some time in early 90s, maybe 1992 He jokes that the guys asked him him if he was on the juice, he said he thought they meant orange juice, this was when he was a kid, a teen.
Are you looking for footage where during an outake of filming hercules, reeves turns to the camera and suddenly confesses anabolic use? That was unlikely to happen, since all bodybuilders lie about their use
"I mighty Hercules will now subdue you with my chemically enhanced muscles and suck your cock, you will like it very much, of this i am certain".
One of the many scenes from Hercules and the minotaur. An early exploration of forced gay bestiality, within ancient Greek society.
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HORSESHIT
It's an extremely RARE man who, overweight or not, can press 400 pounds without considerable training.
You're so out to lunch, buddy.
How many 400 lb men have you seen benching at the gym?
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"I mighty Hercules will now subdue you with my chemically enhanced muscles and suck your cock, you will like it very much, of this i am certain".
One of the many scenes from Hercules and the minotaur. An early exploration of forced gay bestiality, within ancient Greek society.
Directors cut ?
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I’m possibly one of the very few GetBiggers who knew Reeves before he became a movie star and who worked with him while he was still among the living.
It’s my personal opinion that Steve never took roids.
And that opinion is based on many reasons … one of which I’ll mention here.
1. The ‘times’ were different then and as FIGO stated earlier, “ …….. steroids were not immoral, illegal, nor cheating then.”, so if anyone used roids during those early days, some of the ‘users’ would hold their use as a secret in an effort to have a winning edge/advantage over their competitors.; but not due to any preconceived notion of immorality, illegality, nor cheating..
The subject of roid usage was an open book and admitted openly by most anyone using them back then.
And let me assure you that Reeves told me personally that he had never taken roids and forecast that they would be (or were) the ‘ruination of bodybuilding’. He stated this to me personally about three (3) years before he passed away.
Back then the AMA insisted that steroids had no beneficial affect on the human body when it came to increased muscle mass or athletic performance.
In fact the doctors I was familiar with had to ask the bodybuilders and weight lifters about their steroid use advantages due to their own unfamiliarity with the subject which was apparently not covered in medical school.
But a small group of early day Olympic lifters had another opinion ..... and you will soon be reading a book on this very subject written by an active participant.
I’ll drop that subject now because even though I know the story, I was not there to witness the actual events …. I hate writing stuff I was not involved with but this forthcoming book is going to be very interesting and will answer lots of questions posed by many Getbiggers.
OLDTIMER – I like what you said and how you said it but I think I disagree a bit regarding your 1950’s/1960’s ‘roid knowledge’.
I’m no longer up to date on this era of streroid usage so you might have to excuse me for questioning your expertise but I believe some form of anabolics was used to treat burn patients during WWII
I am been told by reliable individuals that such treatment was beneficial for the recovery of military personal who suffered severe b urns while fighting in the Pacific during the early 1940’s.
And it was discovered that that treatment was more beneficial than was initially expected.
More to follow if there is any interest.
Photo is Tripler Army Hospital in Hawaii where Pacific Campaign WWII patients recovered
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Top info Stunt!
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Thanks, Bruce! There's more but I gotta think and make some phone calls to a couple of others who knew SR and other stuff that may be of interest.
Most GetBiggers are seeing the past through eyes of the present (their present eye-balls) but it's a completely different world today.
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How many 400 lb men have you seen benching at the gym?
Not many, but I have seen quite a few 300-pounders of pure fat and they rarely push more than 185 in total shit fashion.
Hope this helps.
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Were you personally surprised to hear this? You're a smart guy with extensive knowledge of weight training and an inside view for many years, serious question.
Did bob kennedy elaborate?
No, wasn't remotely surprised. Just thought I'd tell yas that Bob, who knew him, told me what he did.
Anything more? Can't recall, to be honest. Oh ... also that the dude was pulling beach babes like there was no tomorrow.
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Its Bodybuilding not powerlifting. Most fat people who lift seriously, can lift heavy. doesnt make me wanna be fat tho!
Heavy is relative.
To lift poundage that equates to elite or world-class, not a chance. Fat just as fat does zippo to land you anywhere NEAR a highly competitive lift or total.
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thanks stunt the world is twisted today, nobody believes anything and nobody attempts anything.
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thanks stunt the world is twisted today, nobody believes anything and nobody attempts anything.
No one attempts anything? Yeah, okay. ::)
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So Fortress what do you think about what Stunt posted who actually knew him? Did Bob know him well? What's the average annual rainfall of the amazon basin?
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Not many, but I have seen quite a few 300-pounders of pure fat and they rarely push more than 185 in total shit fashion.
Hope this helps.
Very helpful, bro. Thanks a million.
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So Fortress what do you think about what Stunt posted who actually knew him? Did Bob know him well? What's the average annual rainfall of the amazon basin?
Hey, man, I'm telling you what I recall, okay? Nothing more and nothing less. However, let's not forget other VERY well known muscle men of the era also claim natural when everyone in the know knows, ya know?
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Whoa calm down. I was just curious what your thoughts were after hearing from someone who actually knew him. No harm, no foul.
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Whoa calm down. I was just curious what your thoughts were after hearing from someone who actually knew him. No harm, no foul.
Didn't realize my post sounds like I am anything but calm. Just stating what I know. That's all.
Totally calm. Sorry.
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Like Stunt said, hormones been around for a while, its known that JFK was on steroid therapy in the early 30s already, to combat weight -loss from his ilnesses
Once again, admitting it... Lots of guys even lie to their wives regarding anabolic use, and legality not being an issue, you don't want your "advantage" to be known to all. Why would reeves dispell the mystique sorrounding him later in life.
I'd also imagine reeves wouldve been reliant on aas when in a strange country for many months filming movies to help get into shape. Italy was suffering then, not great conditions at the time
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Plenty of bodybuilding drugs available thru the 1940's and onwards.
The first anabolic steroid isolated was androstenone from human urine by Adolf Butenandt. It was later synthesized by German chemist Leopold Ruzicka in 1931. Later three competing groups raced to isolate a more powerful androgen known to be present in testes and in 1935 Karoly Gyula David, E. Dingemanse, J. Freud and Ernst Laqueur published their successful isolation in a paper "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone). The chemical synthesis of testosterone was achieved in August that year, by Butenandt and G. Hanisch. The age of anabolics was born. Clinical trials using methyltestosterone and testosterone propionate began in 1937. The sport of bodybuilding wasted no time. Testosterone propionate was mentioned in Strength and Health magazine in1938. There are unsubstantiated rumors that Nazi Germany used testosterone preparations on their armed forces. The Allied forces used them to treat malnourished concentration camp survivors. Therapeutic capacity of this class of compounds was realized the moment or even prior to the first isolations from natural tissue. One has to wonder how quickly these compounds made their way to Hollywood. I think of Mae West, who was toward the end of her Hollywood career by the end of the 1930s. What was she known for? Musclemen. She surrounded herself with musclemen. Hell, she married one in ther later years named Chester Rybinski, a Mr. California. Yes, one has to
wonder how soon Hollywood introduced steroids into the mix. Afterall, many Jews that were rescued from German concentration camps were really saved by these compounds. It is not unreasonable to think that Jewsish mogals in hollywood, that essentially ran the industry (i.e. Lewis Goldwyn - Carl Meyer et al.) knew of these things and their power?
1940
Russian sports programs began the use of testosterone derivatives in their athletic programs through the 1940s and quickly dominated Olympic lifting. At the same time in limited circles these anabolic compounds were being used for bodybuilding purposes. It is rumored that Reg Park, after winning the Mr. Briton title in 1949, visited the United States for 6 months where he met Joe Weider. It has been reported by former Mr. Universe (1972) Roger Walker that Park gained 50 lbs in that 6 months. There are also rumors that Steve Reeves used testosterone although he has denied their use in many interviews, although be did admit to B12 injections.
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Reg park was a great bber, and by many accounts a very good man,
to me, its farcical to think he did not do anabolics, and it doesn't make him any less of a champ
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Reg park was a great bber, and by many accounts a very good man,
to me, its farcical to think he did not do anabolics, and it doesn't make him any less of a champ
yep, Reg had a heart of gold, no doubt about that
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hi steve reeves
Haha.
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Haha.
LOL...
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When are people gonna realize:
All old time champions did drugs. (Reeves, Casey, Pearl, Grimek, etc).
Many IronAge heroes did "favors" nude posing for rich men, or G4P (Reeves, Arnold, etc).
I saw a video on YouTube (Weider bros I think)? Where Joe says:
"I may be retired from working these competitions, but I still like to rub oil on the boys"..
Ghey..