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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19753804
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19753804
WTF, the article refers to the film as a "US-made film." instead of a film made in the US. WTF BBC, fan the flames you cocksuckers..... America didn't make the fucking film ::) A fucking egyptian living in the US made the film... It's that kind of shit that gets translated into the US backing the film. fucking chickenshit BBC doesn't have a comment section.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19753804
Yeah, let's celebrate it! ::)
The PC pussies cave to the pedophile Mohammedans once again.
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Yeah, let's celebrate it! ::)
The PC pussies cave to the pedophile Mohammedans once again.
Obama is doing this to keep carrying for his lies and scams.
Only idiots morons and mindless dolts still buy into this sham that the movie had anything to do with the attacks.
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Why did 20 cops have to show up for a parole violation?
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Why did 20 cops have to show up for a parole violation?
to make it a circuis and allow obama to keep his lie going on and to have the mindless idiots like we have on this board diverted from cover up of obama disarming the embassy and not doing shit.
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Good let him rot with cockroaches. Look, islamophobes are mad.
Hate speech is becoming free speech in America while real free speech is being censored.
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to make it a circuis and allow obama to keep his lie going on and to have the mindless idiots like we have on this board diverted from cover up of obama disarming the embassy and not doing shit.
calm down sexy.
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What laws did this guy break? I mean wtf!?
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What laws did this guy break? I mean wtf!?
This guy is the patsy for the obama cover up of the terrorist attack on the embassy by the jihaidsts obama put into power in lybia
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cmon people. Support free speech. Support hate by making anti-jew pro-hitler movies.
*sarcasm*
Because hate speech should and is punishable. Criticism and debate is one thing. Outright lying, slander and demonization is hate speech. Especially when it goes against the evidences in this case who Muhammad (pbuh) was. Yes we find it derogatory that Muhammad (pbuh) is represented in a 'homosexual action porn'. It's disgusting and disrespectful.
2 billion people > 300 million people in the US. If your government is suppose to govern your people, it is doing a poor job. If your government is trying to lead diplomacy, it is doing a shit job. In the end all you know is war.
You attack and invade a bunch of countries, and then to make things worse you disrespect the culture of those you invade after the fact you killed million+ people and impose dictatorships.
Kind of common-sense this guy should be punished.
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lol at the Islamaphobes getting upset. Even if you believe in free speech, you don't think there's anything wrong with this guy that would make him deserve punishment? He lied to the cast in the movie and duped them into playing thier parts not knowing their voices would be dubbed over - and as a result putting them in harm's way - nothing wrong with that even? He knew the cast members' faces were exposed and didn't care about their safety while he himself was trying to stay hidden, covering his face like a coward and even tried hiding his real name. Further example of his cowardness is how he's trying to resist jail on grounds that he's not safe there due to other Muslim inmates. He deserves everything he's getting.
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to make it a circuis and allow obama to keep his lie going on and to have the mindless idiots like we have on this board diverted from cover up of obama disarming the embassy and not doing shit.
Obama disarming the embassy? ??? lol where did you get this shit?
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lol at the Islamaphobes getting upset. Even if you believe in free speech, you don't think there's anything wrong with this guy that would make him deserve punishment? He lied to the cast in the movie and duped them into playing thier parts not knowing their voices would be dubbed over - and as a result putting them in harm's way - nothing wrong with that even? He knew the cast members' faces were exposed and didn't care about their safety while he himself was trying to stay hidden, covering his face like a coward and even tried hiding his real name. Further example of his cowardness is how he's trying to resist jail on grounds that he's not safe there due to other Muslim inmates. He deserves everything he's getting.
LOL - typical from a worshipper of a pedophile prophet.
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LOL - typical from a retard bigot by not addressing any of my questions.
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LOL - typical from a retard bigot by not addressing any of my questions.
Who gives a fuck. 1st amendment is what it is. If the cavemen pedophile worshipers don't like it, tough.
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Who gives a fuck. 1st amendment is what it is. If the cavemen pedophile worshipers don't like it, tough.
Still dodging my question lol - you see absolutely nothing wrong with this guy lying and misleading to the cast and dubbing voices over theirs after the fact, and with a sensitive issue that ends up changing their lives so that they end up living in hiding similar to him?!
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Still dodging my question lol - you see absolutely nothing wrong with this guy lying and misleading to the cast and dubbing voices over theirs after the fact, and with a sensitive issue that ends up changing their lives so that they end up living in hiding similar to him?!
Sure the guy is douche but the 1st amendment is what it is. Rights to offend sand rats trump sensitivities of said sand rats.
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Sure the guy is douche but the 1st amendment is what it is. Rights to offend sand rats trump sensitivities of said sand rats.
And in being a douche he violated his probation terms and deserves to be in jail.
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Still dodging my question lol - you see absolutely nothing wrong with this guy lying and misleading to the cast and dubbing voices over theirs after the fact, and with a sensitive issue that ends up changing their lives so that they end up living in hiding similar to him?!
What law did he brake?
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And in being a douche he violated his probation terms and deserves to be in jail.
Fine - but a parole violation like this requires the FEDS since when?
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lol at the Islamaphobes getting upset. Even if you believe in free speech, you don't think there's anything wrong with this guy that would make him deserve punishment? He lied to the cast in the movie and duped them into playing thier parts not knowing their voices would be dubbed over - and as a result putting them in harm's way - nothing wrong with that even? He knew the cast members' faces were exposed and didn't care about their safety while he himself was trying to stay hidden, covering his face like a coward and even tried hiding his real name. Further example of his cowardness is how he's trying to resist jail on grounds that he's not safe there due to other Muslim inmates. He deserves everything he's getting.
My question still stands - what LAW did he break? Both of our opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
Do I think his lying to the cast is wrong? Yes. Is my opinion on morality law? It is not.
And I do believe in freedom of speech, the ONLY thing I would have a problem with is his lying to the cast. But if he broke no laws, then why the fuck is he in jail?
You guys that think he belongs in jail because he slandered your religion, well you need to go kill yourselves for being such whiny, sensitive bitches.
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lol at the Islamaphobes getting upset. Even if you believe in free speech, you don't think there's anything wrong with this guy that would make him deserve punishment?
I don't believe making this film, no matter how personally distasteful I may find it, merits "punishment."
He lied to the cast in the movie and duped them into playing thier parts not knowing their voices would be dubbed over - and as a result putting them in harm's way - nothing wrong with that even? He knew the cast members' faces were exposed and didn't care about their safety while he himself was trying to stay hidden, covering his face like a coward and even tried hiding his real name. Further example of his cowardness is how he's trying to resist jail on grounds that he's not safe there due to other Muslim inmates. He deserves everything he's getting.
But for everything he did, the actors could sue him on any number of grounds.
I haven't read all the details, so perhaps I'm missing something, but I fail to see what criminal acts he performed, in making this "movie." Can you, perhaps, tell us what those acts that merit criminal punishment are and how they directly connected to the "movie" in question? And please, remember, offending people is not a crime.
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I believe there was something in his parole about not being able to use a computer.
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I don't believe making this film, no matter how personally distasteful I may find it, merits "punishment."
But for everything he did, the actors could sue him on any number of grounds.
I haven't read all the details, so perhaps I'm missing something, but I fail to see what criminal acts he performed, in making this "movie." Can you, perhaps, tell us what those acts that merit criminal punishment are and how they directly connected to the "movie" in question? And please, remember, offending people is not a crime.
It seems it is when it's Islam thats being offended, lol. But it's cool for them to say whatever they want about other religions, just better not insult theirs.
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My question still stands - what LAW did he break? Both of our opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
Do I think his lying to the cast is wrong? Yes. Is my opinion on morality law? It is not.
And I do believe in freedom of speech, the ONLY thing I would have a problem with is his lying to the cast. But if he broke no laws, then why the fuck is he in jail?
You guys that think he belongs in jail because he slandered your religion, well you need to go kill yourselves for being such whiny, sensitive bitches.
I think one of his parole terms was not to use an alias, which is what he broke.
The law isn't always perfect. Oftentimes LE will want to put a scumbag behind bars but will choose the easiest route to legally do so (in this case the fact that he used an alias or used the internet which broke his parole terms). If he had broken these parole terms and not created such an offensive video, they probably would not have handled these violations the way they did.
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I think one of his parole terms was not to use an alias, which is what he broke.
The law isn't always perfect. Oftentimes LE will want to put a scumbag behind bars but will choose the easiest route to legally do so (in this case the fact that he used an alias or used the internet which broke his parole terms). If he had broken these parole terms and not created such an offensive video, they probably would not have handled these violations the way they did.
Parole violations are one thing, and they should be dealt with as the law specifies. The video is quite another - offending people is not a crime. At least, not yet.
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Parole violations are one thing, and they should be dealt with as the law specifies. The video is quite another - offending people is not a crime. At least, not yet.
Oftentimes LE will want to put a scumbag behind bars but will choose the easiest legal route to legally do so (in this case the fact that he used an alias or used the internet which broke his parole terms).
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Oftentimes LE will want to put a scumbag behind bars but will choose the easiest legal route to legally do so (in this case the fact that he used an alias or used the internet which broke his parole terms).
If he legitimately broke his parole, that's one thing and he should be charged with that. But as for the rest, Law Enforcement personnel do lots of things to deal with "scumbags", including making shit up. But the bottom line is this: that the person is a scumbag isn't a crime and abusing the system to deal with scumbags is wrong.
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If he legitimately broke his parole, that's one thing and he should be charged with that. But as for the rest, Law Enforcement personnel do lots of things to deal with "scumbags", including making shit up. But the bottom line is this: that the person is a scumbag isn't a crime and abusing the system to deal with scumbags is wrong.
This. If he violated his parole - then he should face the consequences. But if he did not, then he should not be in jail.
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Looks like the fag has a new name:
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If he legitimately broke his parole, that's one thing and he should be charged with that. But as for the rest, Law Enforcement personnel do lots of things to deal with "scumbags", including making shit up. But the bottom line is this: that the person is a scumbag isn't a crime and abusing the system to deal with scumbags is wrong.
Obviously he broke his parole terms or wouldn't be in jail. Like I said earlier, one of the terms was to not use an alias.
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Who needs the 1st amendment, anyways?
Anyone who insults or dares speak negatively about Islam should be put in jail!
Yeah!
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Obviously he broke his parole terms or wouldn't be in jail. Like I said earlier, one of the terms was to not use an alias.
Not necessarily - as I said, cops often have no problem with "stretching" both facts and laws to deal with those they perceive as "assholes" or "scum." It happens every day.
As for using an "alias" I'm not convinced the movie equivalent of a pen name would qualify as such, but of course I'm not a Judge so my opinion on the subject, even if valid, doesn't carry much weight.
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At the end of the day he's a scumbag and deserves to be in jail. And yes, there are legal grounds to put him in jail since he did violate his probation terms (both using an alias and using the internet). In fact, like posted earlier, it appears he's used two aliases not only one.
It's funny how so many people are questioning the legalities of putting him in jail whereas when it comes to guantanemo bay inmates the majority here post that they should be locked up without questioning legalities.
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At the end of the day he's a scumbag and deserves to be in jail. And yes, there are legal grounds to put him in jail since he did violate his probation terms (both using an alias and using the internet). In fact, like posted earlier, it appears he's used two aliases not only one.
It's funny how so many people are questioning the legalities of putting him in jail whereas when it comes to guantanemo bay inmates the majority here post that they should be locked up without questioning legalities.
Not locked up - they should be doused in pigs blood and then fed in chummed shark infested waters.
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At the end of the day he's a scumbag and deserves to be in jail.
Again, being a scumbag is not a crime - hence one doesn't deserve to be in jail for being a scumbag.
And yes, there are legal grounds to put him in jail since he did violate his probation terms (both using an alias and using the internet). In fact, like posted earlier, it appears he's used two aliases not only one.
I don't know what the conditions of his parole were, so I can't comment on that. As I said, if he violated his parole, he should be dealt with like any other parolee. The "movie" and hiss scumbagginess are irrelevant when it comes down to it. If he had made a wonderful film, that everyone agreed was a masterpiece and had true artistic value, I'd still argue that it's irrelevant when it comes to a parole violation.
It's funny how so many people are questioning the legalities of putting him in jail whereas when it comes to guantanemo bay inmates the majority here post that they should be locked up without questioning legalities.
I'm not questioning the legality of putting him in jail. I'm stating that he should not be jailed because of the "movie" in question, because making offensive movies isn't illegal, offending people isn't illegal, mocking religious figures isn't illegal and being an asshole and a scumbag isn't illegal.
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At the end of the day he's a scumbag and deserves to be in jail. And yes, there are legal grounds to put him in jail since he did violate his probation terms (both using an alias and using the internet). In fact, like posted earlier, it appears he's used two aliases not only one.
It's funny how so many people are questioning the legalities of putting him in jail whereas when it comes to guantanemo bay inmates the majority here post that they should be locked up without questioning legalities.
Your feelings on this are shining through... you want him in jail because of the youtube flick, and you're using his parole violation as an excuse.
If he didn't violate the terms of his parole, he shouldn't be in jail according to our laws. Thats the way it is, regardless of how many people he offended. Its not a crime to piss people off.
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Tolerance is a one-way street with regards to a certain demographic. Check out the state-sponsored media in most of their countries to see this one-way tolerance in action.
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Your feelings on this are shining through... you want him in jail because of the youtube flick, and you're using his parole violation as an excuse.
If he didn't violate the terms of his parole, he shouldn't be in jail according to our laws. Thats the way it is, regardless of how many people he offended. Its not a crime to piss people off.
Yes he did violate his parole, and therefore he's legally back in jail where he should be for breaking a law.
On a separate note I'm happy about it (as well as many others including the cast who he lied to) because he's a scumbag.
Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
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Yes he did violate his parole, and therefore he's legally back in jail where he should be for breaking a law.
On a separate note I'm happy about it (as well as many others including the cast who he lied to) because he's a scumbag.
Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
You're missing the point. You want him in jail regardless of his parole, and it's fairly evident that you want him in jail due to the movie. The other shit is just an excuse.
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You're missing the point. You want him in jail regardless of his parole, and it's fairly evident that you want him in jail due to the movie. The other shit is just an excuse.
lol your point is fairly obvious, I'm not denying that at all.
I'm sure lots of Americans and civilized people feel the same way, including the cast of the movie who he duped and whoever was affected by his previous fraud that put him in jail in the first place.
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Obviously he broke his parole terms or wouldn't be in jail. Like I said earlier, one of the terms was to not use an alias.
and from what I read he had attempted to use many aliases
from this guys criminal record it seemed like only a matter of time before he would have been back in jail for something
from Wiki
According to the Associated Press, "Nakoula struggled with a series of financial problems".[17] In 1996, a lien for $194,000 was filed against Nakoula's gas station for unpaid taxes, penalties, and interest dating from 1989 to 1992.[15] A $106,000 lien was filed against him in 1997.[17] He filed for bankruptcy protection in 2000,[15][18] owing several banks a total of $166,500, but later failing to make payments under the bankruptcy plan.[15][19] A $191,000 tax lien was filed against him in 2006.[17]
The Daily Beast reported that Nakoula was arrested by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department in 1997 after being pulled over and found to be in possession of ephedrine, hydroiodic acid, and $45,000 in cash;[15] he was charged with intent to manufacture methamphetamine.[14] He pleaded guilty and was sentenced in 1997 to one year in Los Angeles County Jail and three years probation. According to the Los Angeles County District Attorney, he violated probation in 2002 and was re-sentenced to another year in county jail.[20]
In 2010, Nakoula pleaded no contest to federal charges of bank fraud in California. Nakoula had opened bank accounts using fake names and stolen Social Security numbers, including one belonging to a 6-year-old child,[4] and deposited checks from those accounts to withdraw at ATMs.[21] The prosecutor described the scheme as check kiting, "You try to get the money out of the bank before the bank realizes they are drawn from a fraudulent account. There basically is no money," she said.[5] Nakoula’s June 2010 sentencing transcript shows that after being arrested, he testified against an alleged ring leader of the fraud scheme, in exchange for a lighter sentence.[22][23][24] He was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison, followed by five years probation (supervised release), and ordered to pay $794,701 in restitution.[5][25] He was sent to prison, then to a halfway house,[26] and was released from custody in June 2011. A few weeks later, he began working on Innocence of Muslims.[27][26] Conditions of Nakoula's probation include not using aliases and not using the Internet without prior approval from his probation officer.[28][29]
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and from what I read he had attempted to use many aliases
from this guys criminal record it seemed like only a matter of time before he would have been back in jail for something
from Wiki
yet according to shockwave and co we should feel no preference towards him being in jail unless it is strictly for the fact that he used an alias and/or used the internet without permission lmfao
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yet according to shockwave and co we should feel no preference towards him being in jail unless it is strictly for the fact that he used an alias and/or used the internet without permission lmfao
No, I said if he violated a law he should be in jail. He should not be thrown in jail for making a movie that offends your religion anymore than he should be in jail for calling someone an asshole.
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yet according to shockwave and co we should feel no preference towards him being in jail unless it is strictly for the fact that he used an alias and/or used the internet without permission lmfao
That's not what Shockwave or I said. We said that if he violated the conditions of his parole he should be dealt with accordingly.
What should not happen is that he should not be thrown back in jail because of a legitimate exercise of a right guaranteed to him under the First Amendment. He has a right to speak even if his speech offends you. He has a right to speak even if his speech offends me. He has a right to speak even if his speech offends everyone else.
I will support his right to do so, even though I may not like what he has to say. And if that bothers you or offends you, then fuck you and the penis you rode in on.
None of this has anything to do with whether he violated his parole; if he did, he should be dealt with accordingly, which I would imagine would include going back to jail. That is unrelated to the film.
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This does not pass the smell test.
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This does not pass the smell test.
What do you mean, Beach Bum?
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What do you mean, Beach Bum?
The timing of his arrest for probation violation and holding him (without bail?) stinks.
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The timing of his arrest for probation violation and holding him (without bail?) stinks.
But wouldn't it be said that the timing was due to the sudden scrutiny placed on him, being linked from the activities in question, and the denial was due to a successful argument to show he was a flight risk?
You probably know more about this situation than me, and I'd be interested to know what you think about it.