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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OTHstrong on September 29, 2012, 04:52:06 PM
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All this BS about the judges not giving it to him. I think they will give it to him, from where I sit Kai is dramatically beating him, break down the poses and it becomes to much for the judges to over look.
I am not saying Kai should win like evryone else, I am saying he will win. Then all you guys saying "they wont't give it to him" can eat your words
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Judges will think that "Phil gives the sport a better image". LoL.
Kai does not stand a chance in hell.
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All this BS about the judges not giving it to him. I think they will give it to him, from where I sit Kai is dramatically beating him, break down the poses and it becomes to much for the judges to over look.
I am not saying Kai should win like evryone else, I am saying he will win. Then all you guys saying "they wont't give it to him" can eat your words
One,
What about the grapefruit conspiracy?
"1"
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Judges will think that "Phil gives the sport a better image". LoL.
Kai does not stand a chance in hell.
NOBODY GIVES A FFFF ABOUT THE STUPID GRAPEFRUIT
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kai looks phenomenal. but he isnt good enough to beat phil. its close between them. kai wins the back double bicep i think. but phil wins all the other poses due to superior aesthetics. kai lacks traps which kills him in alot of poses. his waist , while smaller than last year, is still alot bigger than phils in the front double bicep and side chest. phil just flows much better top to bottom.
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All this BS about the judges not giving it to him. I think they will give it to him, from where I sit Kai is dramatically beating him, break down the poses and it becomes to much for the judges to over look.
I am not saying Kai should win like evryone else, I am saying he will win. Then all you guys saying "they wont't give it to him" can eat your words
I think it's real close , Phil will win but not bu much , no straights firsts for him.
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One,
What about the grapefruit conspiracy?
"1"
That's my whole point, I don't agree with you guys, the judges don't care about that anymore and are not thinking that when they are scoring. Kai will win, he beats Phil on 7-8 out of the 11 mandatory poses
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Arnold fucked plenty of grapefruits and won the OlYMPIA ''7 FUKIN TIMES''
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i think the way the commentators were raving about Phil that the decision is made. they wouldn't be saying it was a done deal if they weren't told to say it. people are such sheep that if kai is better but the announcers say phil is; then they will believe phil is better even if their eyes tell them something different.
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...people are such sheep that if kai is better but the announcers say phil is; then they will believe phil is better even if their eyes tell them something different.
This x 1,000
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I know this is.the O but remember, Kai used to beat Phil often. I know Phils different now but so is Kai now.
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NOBODY GIVES A FFFF ABOUT THE STUPID GRAPEFRUIT
apparently getbig cant let it go ::)
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look ive been the biggest kai fan on this board and have never once strayed from it, kai has one of my favortie physiques and he is by far my favorite personality. i watch his videos all the time. cant get enough. but the simple fact is that phil looks better . kai beats phil on back width and thickness and bicep size. phil has him beat on chest triceps abs and traps. plus overall aesthetics. kai looks phenomenal, phil looks like superman. even if they were tied, which they arent, you gotta knock out the champ. period. kai doesnt. that being said, i love kai and will continue to do so.
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Arnold fucked plenty of grapefruits and won the OlYMPIA ''7 FUKIN TIMES''
fixed
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I know this is.the O but remember, Kai used to beat Phil often. I know Phils different now but so is Kai now.
I agree Wiggs. I also think that Kai will wow the crowd and concinve the judges the lympia is his with his incredible posing tonight.
Hey Wiggs, how good a seat do you have for the show?
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look ive been the biggest kai fan on this board and have never once strayed from it, kai has one of my favortie physiques and he is by far my favorite personality. i watch his videos all the time. cant get enough. but the simple fact is that phil looks better . kai beats phil on back width and thickness and bicep size. phil has him beat on chest triceps abs and traps. plus overall aesthetics. kai looks phenomenal, phil looks like superman. even if they were tied, which they arent, you gotta knock out the champ. period. kai doesnt. that being said, i love kai and will continue to do so.
NOT how contests are judged , it's poses NOT parts. You can't break it down like that. Although I agree with you , Phil will win
It's very close regardless of who wins , whoever wins won't win with straight firsts
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NOT how contests are judged , it's poses NOT parts. You can't break it down like that. Although I agree with you , Phil will win
It's very close regardless of who wins , whoever wins won't win with straight firsts
poses are comprised of parts ;)
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NOT how contests are judged , it's poses NOT parts. You can't break it down like that. Although I agree with you , Phil will win
It's very close regardless of who wins , whoever wins won't win with straight firsts
Kai has a more professional way of presenting himself. If it doesn't count, then I think it should.
It is very close between the two and it doesn't matter to me if either one wins. Personally, I think Dexter looks the best.
The thing that annoys me is what passes for 'expert commentary' by the bodybuilding media.
Instead of saying what they see, they say what they think they ought to see.
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NOT how contests are judged , it's poses NOT parts. You can't break it down like that. Although I agree with you , Phil will win
It's very close regardless of who wins , whoever wins won't win with straight firsts
exactly, 11 mandatory poses + the most muscular, so 12
Side tri Kai
Side Chest Kai
Back double Kai
Back lat Kai
Ab and thighs Phil
Front double Phil
Front lats Phil (maybe)
Most muscular Kai in crab,
Phil in the hands joined
Front quarter Phil
Left querter Kai
right quarter Kai
back quarter Kai
7 for Kai and 4 for Phil on mandatories and a tie on the most muscular due to 2 different most muscular poses.
Kai wins, factor in posing and presentation to favors Kai
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All this BS about the judges not giving it to him. I think they will give it to him, from where I sit Kai is dramatically beating him, break down the poses and it becomes to much for the judges to over look.
I am not saying Kai should win like evryone else, I am saying he will win. Then all you guys saying "they wont't give it to him" can eat your words
you will be the one eating your words. he is in 2nd place, why is that complicated for you? why get all emotional about it?
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Kai - "I'm fruiting day and night"
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I know this is.the O but remember, Kai used to beat Phil often. I know Phils different now but so is Kai now.
as i told parker, figgs, they gave pre-judging to phil for a cushion going into the evening show, because kai will wreck him tonight. phil takes it by 1-5 points because of bullshit pre-judge scoring, just like jay in 2010. anyway, for the first time i was impressed by kai. dude brought it and was #1 by the end of pre-judging, after starting slow. now, i see why you were schmoeing behind them (oscar and kai) at flamengo, but your broke ass should have got a photo of mindi smith at least. >:(
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qcgkR8Zo1rasfygo1_500.jpg)
charles glass' bitches rule! 8)
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exactly, 11 mandatory poses + the most muscular, so 12
Side tri Kai
Side Chest Kai
Back double Kai
Back lat Kai
Ab and thighs Phil
Front double Phil
Front lats Phil (maybe)
Most muscular Kai in crab,
Phil in the hands joined
Front quarter Phil
Left querter Kai
right quarter Kai
back quarter Kai
7 for Kai and 4 for Phil on mandatories and a tie on the most muscular due to 2 different most muscular poses.
Kai wins, factor in posing and presentation to favors Kai
absolutely not. kai wins one pose only and thats back double bicep. if your counting the quarter turns then kai gets the rear relaxed as well. every other other shot goes to phil.
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Phil should have sex with an apple
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Not going to happen.
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Kai - "I'm fruiting day and night"
This shit again. Ok, so he did some questionable sex acts years ago, so what.
He didn't molest kids or rape some woman ,or commit a crime, etc.
Kai has the best overall physique on the Olympia stage.
If he brings it home with one of his incredible posing talent, the title belongs to Kai Green.
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poses are comprised of parts ;)
Duh not shit but you can't pick better parts and claim an entire pose , not how it works , and poses are comprised of EVERYTHING they look for , who has the superior muscular bulk AND who has the better density AND dryness and who has better balance AND proportion and who has the least amount of flaws , who is better at posing AND presentation of their physique
Poses are all encompassing when you pick out certain parts and claim some half-ass victory it shows how much you're really missing , the calves are just as important in the front double biceps pose as the biceps are , that goes for the entire physique.
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kai looks phenomenal. but he isnt good enough to beat phil. its close between them. kai wins the back double bicep i think. but phil wins all the other poses due to superior aesthetics. kai lacks traps which kills him in alot of poses. his waist , while smaller than last year, is still alot bigger than phils in the front double bicep and side chest. phil just flows much better top to bottom.
Your so love in Phil triceps it would probably break your heart if he lost
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Phil will win and he deserves it. It's not politics. If Kai were to win then you could suspect
"someone" got real pissed off at Phil.
It won't be close on the score cards.
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as i told parker, figgs, they gave pre-judging to phil for a cushion going into the evening show, because kai will wreck him tonight. phil takes it by 1-5 points because of bullshit pre-judge scoring, just like jay in 2010. anyway, for the first time i was impressed by kai. dude brought it and was #1 by the end of pre-judging, after starting slow. now, i see why you were schmoeing behind them (oscar and kai) at flamengo, but your broke ass should have got a photo of mindi smith at least. >:(
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qcgkR8Zo1rasfygo1_500.jpg)
charles glass' bitches rule! 8)
Who is the girl??? :o
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Phil will win and he deserves it. It's not politics. If Kai were to win then you could suspect
"someone" got real pissed off at Phil.
It won't be close on the score cards.
if they are neck and neck after pre-judging, based on the multiple comparisons, how in the hell does phil take the evening show and that 50% against the best presenter and poser in the game?
how? they've given phil a cushion after pre-judging to absorb the wrecking kai will inflict on him tonight.
but that's how the olympia game works. kai still goes home with 100k.
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Phil will win and he deserves it.
Phil does deserve to win it. So too does Kai.
I just can't stand the stupid 'expert commentary' that makes it sound like Heath is the second coming.
They did the same bullshit commentary with Ronnie and Jay.
Knuckleheads, the lot of them.
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if they are neck and neck after pre-judging, based on the multiple comparisons, how in the hell does phil take the evening show and that 50% against the best presenter and poser in the game?
how? they've given a phil a cushion after pre-judging to absorb the wrecking kai will inflict on him tonight.
but that's how the olympic game works. kai still goes home with 100k.
Did they already release the prejudging scores? I'm not following this too closely.
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Duh not shit but you can't pick better parts and claim an entire pose , not how it works , and poses are comprised of EVERYTHING they look for , who has the superior muscular bulk AND who has the better density AND dryness and who has better balance AND proportion and who has the least amount of flaws , who is better at posing AND presentation of their physique
Poses are all encompassing when you pick out certain parts and claim some half-ass victory it shows how much you're really missing , the calves are just as important in the front double biceps pose as the biceps are , that goes for the entire physique.
discussing things with tbomz is pointless, he has one view and can not be moved and totally delusional about everything
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if they are neck and neck after pre-judging, based on the multiple comparisons, how in the hell does phil take the evening show and that 50% against the best presenter and poser in the game?
how? they've given phil a cushion after pre-judging to absorb the wrecking kai will inflict on him tonight.
but that's how the olympia game works. kai still goes home with 100k.
I have judged for 20 yrs from the old Mr America to a local npc show.
Kai is clearly better this yr hen Phil.
I was surprised to see him looking that incredible.
The posing routine for Kai should seal the deal with the crowd , if not the judges.
Phil is a great pro but on all the main factors you judge by, Kai is going to be a clear winner.
Now, it is up to the IFBB judges ?
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Now, it is up to the IFBB judges ?
2-Time MrO Phil Heath.
You know they give pre-judging to Phil like they did with Jay in 2010 when Phil smacked Jay. Phil can't match Kai in the evening show, so he has to come in with a lead. You've judged, so you know how the game is played out.
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Did they already release the prejudging scores? I'm not following this too closely.
Cmon bro get with it... ;)
They make one final comparison at the end of pre-juging between first and second, but they only do this comparison if it's close, example Jay and Ronnie 2001. Also they made them switch spots more then once from left to right, clearly it's close, not rocket science.
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I agree with Howard cause he said it best and he's been around this stuff for a damn long time.
Kai is the better bodybuilder this weekend but they just might give it Phil due to the grapefruit controversy which is gonna cause a lods more controversy.
What AAU national contests have you judged Howard?
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If we accept that the judges are mostly homosexual, then Kai being a type of sex freak
should play in his favor, no? Wasn't Kai a gay escort some years ago (I seem to recall people on here saying that)?
I don't think Kai fucking fruit and standing on his head displaying his asshole will hurt his chances.
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Duh not shit but you can't pick better parts and claim an entire pose , not how it works , and poses are comprised of EVERYTHING they look for , who has the superior muscular bulk AND who has the better density AND dryness and who has better balance AND proportion and who has the least amount of flaws , who is better at posing AND presentation of their physique
Poses are all encompassing when you pick out certain parts and claim some half-ass victory it shows how much you're really missing , the calves are just as important in the front double biceps pose as the biceps are , that goes for the entire physique.
to quote yourself, : "DUH, NO SHIT"
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I have judged for 20 yrs from the old Mr America to a local npc show.
Kai is clearly better this yr hen Phil.
I was surprised to see him looking that incredible.
The posing routine for Kai should seal the deal with the crowd , if not the judges.
Phil is a great pro but on all the main factors you judge by, Kai is going to be a clear winner.
Now, it is up to the IFBB judges ?
Howard nailed this post on the money, big time
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I give Kai the edge over Phil on nostril width.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=386192.0;attach=418292;image
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Who is the girl??? :o
I miss Mandy Smith, she was really moving up in the figure shows
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Kai may have blown it, he came in flat tonight, Phill looks a little better as well
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Kai may have blown it, he came in flat tonight, Phill looks a little better as well
he messed it up. phil will get his second sandow and will be more full of himself than ever.