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Tried it back in the 80's. Great if you were fat but was a joke!
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I don't, but on these lines, does anyone remember that guy Jeff (can't remember his last name) and he had a line of low budget shit and sent out black and white newsletters that said STEROIDS on them? He had glasses and looked a bit fat.
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that stuff came with a booklet that had nutrition info in it and I believe a 3phase training routine that was volume volume volume.
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Came with a video...the workout was brutal...told you to lay in the sun or tanning booth to release test, also came out with Phase One with was to be taken before the Cybergenics kit. Other bodybuilders at the time used to laugh at Franco but as they used to tell me..."he's paying his bills". I believe the Kit was $159.00 and Phase One was $79.99. Crazy expensive...but also at the time was the DASH kit. Both kits had the little dropper of liquid to release GH at night and after workouts...sort of like the HOT STUFF Smilex dropper. All bullshit!
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Lying,,,FILT,,
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Santoriello claimed natural... he had Jesus as I recall.
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Santoriello claimed natural... he had Jesus as I recall.
had gyno,but great build short,legs,delts all good ,him and eddie robinson had a bit rivarlry,,,,
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first thing that came to my mind. Company was owned by some fatass that dressed in Venice beach baggies all the time. He bought the original bat mobile.
Btw, y lately wen I quote pix they don't show up?
Maybe it's a ipad thing
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Tried it back in the 80's. Great if you were fat but was a joke!
I do..I fell for it :-\
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I do..I fell for it :-\
i was too poor back then to fall for it
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Cybergenics had a huge run. The original EAS. Someone made millions.
Sorry about the small pic. LOL. So good!
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I do..I fell for it :-\
Yep..me too. Bought one kit...tried the workouts for a couple of weeks and felt like shit from overtraining. Would've been cheaper to just buy more boron... :)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/billpearlman/BillCybergenics.jpg).
Scott Chinery was the guy behind it, later he hit it again with Xenedrine. Took the money and bought a giant guitar collection, which was the envy of many folks.
The key was the workout and the healthy dose of E/C contained in the supplements.
CYBERGENICS WORKOUT
**Notes on training:
-All training is done immediately following a 13-15 hr fast period, on an empty stomach.
-The muscles are brought to positive and negative failure.
-Rest time is limited to how long your partner takes to finish his/her superset(s).
-Concentrate on raising the weight quick, while lowering it very slow, up to six seconds to do so.
-Do not count reps. Everything is done to failure.
- You can substitute exercises of your choice.
(DAYS 1 and 4)
Diet Day 1: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 4: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs with moderate protein consumption, about 1 to 1.5 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Quads and Hams:
Cycle 1 (repeat cycle 4 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Squats at 80% max to + and - failure
Squats at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Sissy squats to + and - failure
Deep knee bends to + and - failure
Flexing for 30 seconds
Cycle 2 (repeat cycle 2 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Leg extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Leg extensions at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Leg curls at 80% max to + and - failure
Leg curls at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Calves:
Cycle 3 (repeat cycle 3 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Calf raises at 90% max to + and - failure
Calf raises at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Single leg calf raises (holding dumbbell) 80% max to + and - failure
Calf raises (without weight) to + and - failure
Flexing for 30 seconds
Traps:
Cycle 4 (repeat cycle 4 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Barbell shrugs at 90% max to + and - failure
Dumbbell shrugs at 90% max to + and - failure
Upright rows at 75% max to + and - failure
Upright rows at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Abs:
Cycle 5 (repeat cycle 3 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Crunches at 50% max to + and - failure
Crunches (no added weight) to + and - failure
Leg raises (no added weight) to + and - failure
DAYS 2 & 5
Diet Day 2: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 5: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Chest:
Cycle 1(repeat 4 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Dumbbell flyes at 80% max to + and - failure
Dumbbell flyes at 50% of above to + and - failure
Bench press at 60-70% max to + and - failure
flex for 30 seconds
Cycle 2(repeat 2 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Incline press at 90% max to + and - failure
Incline press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Dips (without added weight) to + and - failure
Back:
Cycle 3 (repeat 6 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Lat pulldowns (shoulder width grip) at 95% max to + and - failure
Lat pulldowns (close grip) at 50% of above to + and - failure
Lat pulldowns (close grip) at 50% of above to + and - failure
Cycle 4 (repeat 5 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Seated cable rows at 90% max to + and - failure
Seated cable rows at 50% of above to + and - failure
Seated cable rows at 50% of above to + and - failure
DAYS 3 & 6
Diet Day 3: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 6: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Shoulders:
Cycle 1 (Repeat 5 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Barbell press at 95% max to + and - failure
Barbell press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Barbell press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Lat raises at 80% max to + and - failure
Lat raises at 40% of above to + and - failure
Biceps
Cycle 2 (Repeat 3 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Barbell curls at 95% max to + and - failure
Barbell curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Barbell curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Cycle 3 (Repeat 2 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Single arm concentration curls at 95% max to + and - failure
Single arm concentration curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Single arm concentration curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Triceps
Cycle 4 (Repeat 4 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Lying barbell extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Close grip bench press w/same weight as above to + and - failure
Lying barbell extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Close grip bench press w/same weight as above to + and - failure
Cycle 5 (Repeat 2 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Medium grip press downs at 90% max to + and - failure
Medium grip press downs at 50% of above to + and - failure
Medium grip press downs at 50% of above to + and - failure
Day 7
Diet Day 7: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Rest.
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This program looks like it would destroy your central nervous system after two weeks or so
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yousnotallowed is the first company i became a lawyer for, i was young and inexperienced but i learned a lot.
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This program looks like it would destroy your central nervous system after two weeks or so
lol....
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Total horseshit scam
Much like ... well, much like MuscleTech and all the rest.
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Total horseshit scam
Much like ... well, much like MuscleTech and all the rest.
8) What he said .
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Tried it back in the 80's. Great if you were fat but was a joke!
saw it figured it was a scam.....
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Franco's in jail for recreational drugs...
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Wasn't that ProSource's brand? Total bullshit. I bought it and I didn't notice shit. The two supps in the world that I ever noticed a huge boost from.
1. Original Ultimate Orange.
We've talked about it a lot on here but this shit was crack + Meth + Speed + ECA mixed with Tang
2. Fizogen On/Off cycle.
This was during the prohormone boom. This shit was straight up Superdrol, A-Drol, D-bol, Tren mixed into a tab. My arms and chest looked sick, full pump, veins popping. They wouldn't ship this to Cali but I got it anyways.
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I'm pretty sure he is a NJ guy. I remember seeing his Lambo during a photo shoot by the beach.
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that stuff came with a booklet that had nutrition info in it and I believe a 3phase training routine that was volume volume volume.
It came with some pretty crazy ideas.
You trained and lifted in fasted conditions and did these jump squats between leg exercises.
Sure, that works to lose some fat, but so would running around your block and starving yourself.
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Franco
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i still to this day wonder if that first batch of phosphagen HP was tainted with steroids , my arms felt so crazy pumped like that had been pumped up with an air compressor
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the training program was a spin-off on Mike Mentzer's old Heavy Duty routine which he actually used back in the late 70s
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I remember it. I watched part of the video when it came out.... I was confused because there was so much emphasis on training and starving yourself.
Never fell for it :D
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i still to this day wonder if that first batch of phosphagen HP was tainted with steroids , my arms felt so crazy pumped like that had been pumped up with an air compressor
Your brain believed and your body followed... nothing more.
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Seriously gentlemen, MetRx blew away Cybergenetics. Both had incredible marketing campaigns, but MetRx took the cake. Phillips did not make outrageous claims, but he sure did imply them. Phillips had everyone in on MetRx train... Lee Labrada (ESPN commercials), Jeff Everson ("walks like a duck, it must be a duck"), Dr Scott Connelly (invented the term "anti-catabolic"), Danny Hester (looked great then). I'm probably missing a few more shills. Phillips even mentioned that Clint Eastwood was using the product while filming the movie "The Rookie" and gave MetRx the credit for Clint's arm development.
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Danny, Hester still looks good! I saw him at the Mr Olympia expo,and he looked jst as good if not better then he used to.He wears glasses now, Danny and his wife, are really nice people.They own there own gym in California.Danny is thinking of doing Nationals, coming up really quick here.He said, he is training nd if he feels he is ready, he wil do the show as a Middelweight.Danny is no mass monster and he isnt huge, but he has great shape.He has great lines and good detail.
I think if he does Nationals he will be on the top 3 for sure.
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Seriously gentlemen, MetRx blew away Cybergenetics. Both had incredible marketing campaigns, but MetRx took the cake. Phillips did not make outrageous claims, but he sure did imply them. Phillips had everyone in on MetRx train... Lee Labrada (ESPN commercials), Jeff Everson ("walks like a duck, it must be a duck"), Dr Scott Connelly (invented the term "anti-catabolic"), Danny Hester (looked great then). I'm probably missing a few more shills. Phillips even mentioned that Clint Eastwood was using the product while filming the movie "The Rookie" and gave MetRx the credit for Clint's arm development.
Wasn't Bill Phillips EAS and Muscle Media, and Met-Rx Scott Conelly
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Didn't they get the idea for the name from the Terminator movie?
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Tried it back in the 80's. Great if you were fat but was a joke!
I remember it, they had Lee Priest in their ads IIRC.
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Wasn't Bill Phillips EAS and Muscle Media, and Met-Rx Scott Conelly
What happen was Phillips was your standard bodybuilding fan that had family money and a successful little news letter (Anabolic Update) , he hooks up with Connelly, who was at the time, a critical care hospital doctor. They decide to try and market Connelly's recovery drink to lifters via Phillips's news letter. The news letter turns into Muscle Media 2000, and steadily promotes Met-Rx and Bill's circle of friends.
Phillips's becomes friends with the original owners of EAS, a pair of scientist that were researching creatine. He helps them promote Phosphagen through MM, then a bit later buys the company out right. The split with Connelly came around then, I'm not sure of all the in and outs, but EAS released their own MPR, a horrible tasting creatine/protein blend called Phospagain, then a year or so later, Myoplex.
It was a nasty split, and for many years Met-Rx was banned from being mentioned in Muscle Media, they'd call it the leading brand, or bar out the full name.
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Muscle Media 2000 was the bomb in the mid-90s
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What happen was Phillips was your standard bodybuilding fan that had family money and a successful little news letter (Anabolic Update) , he hooks up with Connelly, who was at the time, a critical care hospital doctor. They decide to try and market Connelly's recovery drink to lifters via Phillips's news letter. The news letter turns into Muscle Media 2000, and steadily promotes Met-Rx and Bill's circle of friends.
Phillips's becomes friends with the original owners of EAS, a pair of scientist that were researching creatine. He helps them promote Phosphagen through MM, then a bit later buys the company out right. The split with Connelly came around then, I'm not sure of all the in and outs, but EAS released their own MPR, a horrible tasting creatine/protein blend called Phospagain, then a year or so later, Myoplex.
It was a nasty split, and for many years Met-Rx was banned from being mentioned in Muscle Media, they'd call it the leading brand, or bar out the full name.
I remember Met-Rx had creatine in it when it first came out.Troy Aikman was the spokesmen
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Cybergenecs was REAL popular! I even tried that shit! Didnt work for crap. Neither did Hot Stuff or boron. The supps back in the 80's were shit! Only thing that worked was Ultimate Orange
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Cybergenecs was REAL popular! I even tried that shit! Didnt work for crap. Neither did Hot Stuff or boron. The supps back in the 80's were shit! Only thing that worked was Ultimate Orange
yep, ultimate orange was da shit 8)
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I remember the 'vortex' amino acids from this company. :-D pretty good.
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Muscle Media 2000 was the bomb in the mid-90s
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Remember that long awaited article about the guy who successfully smuggled gear back over the border from MEX? Back then, it felt like watching an episode of Locked Up Abroad. lol
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Remember that long awaited article about the guy who successfully smuggled gear back over the border from MEX? Back then, it felt like watching an episode of Locked Up Abroad. lol
yep, they kept it real back then in that mag
including dan ducahine's articles and the promotion of creatine as it was and still is the one and only valid legal supp for size and stength gains
they also gave the ECA stack on good push back then, from what i remember
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What happen was Phillips was your standard bodybuilding fan that had family money and a successful little news letter (Anabolic Update) , he hooks up with Connelly, who was at the time, a critical care hospital doctor. They decide to try and market Connelly's recovery drink to lifters via Phillips's news letter. The news letter turns into Muscle Media 2000, and steadily promotes Met-Rx and Bill's circle of friends.
Phillips's becomes friends with the original owners of EAS, a pair of scientist that were researching creatine. He helps them promote Phosphagen through MM, then a bit later buys the company out right. The split with Connelly came around then, I'm not sure of all the in and outs, but EAS released their own MPR, a horrible tasting creatine/protein blend called Phospagain, then a year or so later, Myoplex.
It was a nasty split, and for many years Met-Rx was banned from being mentioned in Muscle Media, they'd call it the leading brand, or bar out the full name.
Cool, thanks for explaining, didn't know phillips was a partner in Met-Rx originally. So Connelly was actually a real doctor.
Both companies became real big, sponsored major events, lots of exposure
And props to Phillips, back in the day, duchaine's day, MM2k was a great mag
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I remember Met-Rx had creatine in it when it first came out.Troy Aikman was the spokesmen
I don't think the original Met-Rx had creatine. Creatine was introduced as Phosphagen by EAS. At least that's what I remember.
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Cybergenecs was REAL popular! I even tried that shit! Didnt work for crap. Neither did Hot Stuff or boron. The supps back in the 80's were shit! Only thing that worked was Ultimate Orange
HA!...I think the 80's were when ALL of us were really gullible and fell for everything advertised in the magazines...I think because thats when bodybuilding began to be marketed better and the builds of that time looked as if they could be attainable...also the personalities around then helped to push all that junk on us before we all realized that it was all about drugs and nothing else....
I remember other supps like Carnitine, Chromium Picolinate, Smilax (which I got taken to the cleaners twice for $35.00 per bottle!!!!)
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I don't think the original Met-Rx had creatine. Creatine was introduced as Phosphagen by EAS. At least that's what I remember.
CORRECT METRX WAS 2 BASE POWDERS ORIGINALLY
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CORRECT METRX WAS 2 BASE POWDERS ORIGINALLY
Yes, but one was "Base" and the other one was "Plus". One had the carbs and thickener and the other had the protein. It cost a ridiculous amount of money too, something like $70-80 for those two small containers. The main part of the forumula was casein protein, maltodextrin, corn syrup solids and xanthan gum.
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Company to first come out with creatine in a 2gm wafer was Atletika
I don't think the original Met-Rx had creatine. Creatine was introduced as Phosphagen by EAS. At least that's what I remember.
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Company to first come out with creatine in a 2gm wafer was Atletika
was that before sportpharma?
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Yes, but one was "Base" and the other one was "Plus". One had the carbs and thickener and the other had the protein. It cost a ridiculous amount of money too, something like $70-80 for those two small containers. The main part of the forumula was casein protein, maltodextrin, corn syrup solids and xanthan gum.
VERY $$$$$$,,RAN OUT IN LIKE 7 DAYS OR 10 SOMETHING RIDICULOUS,,THE PACKS WERE GOOD ORIGINAL MAKE PUDDING WITH THEM.
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Wasn't that ProSource's brand? Total bullshit. I bought it and I didn't notice shit. The two supps in the world that I ever noticed a huge boost from.
1. Original Ultimate Orange.
We've talked about it a lot on here but this shit was crack + Meth + Speed + ECA mixed with Tang
2. Fizogen On/Off cycle.
This was during the prohormone boom. This shit was straight up Superdrol, A-Drol, D-bol, Tren mixed into a tab. My arms and chest looked sick, full pump, veins popping. They wouldn't ship this to Cali but I got it anyways.
That shit was expensive as fuck...Way cheaper to use the real deal
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Tried it back in the 80's. Great if you were fat but was a joke!
They are actually still around. Paul Becker I believe owns the rights
http://www.trulyhuge.com/cybergenics.htm