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Title: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:31:03 AM


Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Hulkotron on October 16, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Bill should be president-for-life / King.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:38:33 AM
Non-partisan credit rating agency Moody's.


Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2012, 10:39:32 AM
Didn't see but....who cares. The entire left lost credibility a loooooong time.ago.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 10:40:21 AM
his best role is when he criticizes people... when he s not president himself... As if he d do better than any of both obama or romney. He s just interested in talking loud without much risks at the moment , hoping to be in power again later, but just like the others he has no control over anything that's coming. He s just thinking about himself, gratuitous fame and attention at no cost.
Isnt he the guy who needed to be sucked off by a secretary cause his ugly fat old wife made a misery of his sex life? and you want that dude to be president? Oh well.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
his best role is when he criticizes people... when he s not president himself... As if he d do better than any of both obama or romney. He s just interested in talking loud hoping without much risks at the moment , to be in power again later, just like the others he has no control over anything that's coming. He s just thinking about himself, gratuitous fame and attention at no cost.
Isnt he the guy who needed to be sucked off by a secretary cause his ugly fat old wife made a misery of his sex life? and you want that dude to be president? Oh well.

He's the guy who was President of the United States during the longest period of peace and prosperity in American history...


So yeah, that trumps any dumb babbling you spew in order to get attention...
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
He's the guy who was President of the United States during the longest period of peace and prosperity in American history...


So yeah, that trumps any dumb babbling you spew in order to get attention...
boo hoo looks like i hurt your hero, stupid mongrel.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 16, 2012, 10:47:47 AM
He's the guy who was President of the United States during the longest period of peace and prosperity in American history...


So yeah, that trumps any dumb babbling you spew in order to get attention...
This x 10!
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: tu_holmes on October 16, 2012, 10:48:53 AM
boo hoo looks like i hurt your hero, stupid mongrel.

I don't think stating a fact is really hurting anyone.

The fact is that Bill Clinton is by far one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:50:03 AM
boo hoo looks like i hurt your hero, stupid mongrel.

You resort to simple, non-substantive attacks in order to defend your position.

Sounds a lot like Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

The numbers don't lie, get the facts.









 
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
Unless you're a millionaire or billionaire, do you honestly think Mitt Romney is looking out for your best interest?

Mitt Romney's own words:


Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: _bruce_ on October 16, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
his best role is when he criticizes people... when he s not president himself... As if he d do better than any of both obama or romney. He s just interested in talking loud without much risks at the moment , hoping to be in power again later, but just like the others he has no control over anything that's coming. He s just thinking about himself, gratuitous fame and attention at no cost.
Isnt he the guy who needed to be sucked off by a secretary cause his ugly fat old wife made a misery of his sex life? and you want that dude to be president? Oh well.

x2
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Shockwave on October 16, 2012, 10:55:43 AM

The numbers don't lie, get the facts.
???

Gallup - Romney 50%/Obama 46%
 Gallup ^ | 10/16 | Gallup

Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:05:38 PM by tatown

Romney - 50% Obama - 46%


(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...



Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 10:57:11 AM
???

Gallup - Romney 50%/Obama 46%
 Gallup ^ | 10/16 | Gallup

Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:05:38 PM by tatown

Romney - 50% Obama - 46%


(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...






Are you deflecting?

What is your position on Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan's economic plans?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Shockwave on October 16, 2012, 10:58:36 AM

What is your position on Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan's economic plans?
That it will probably take Romney's magic underwear to pull off what they're claiming they can do.

You're the one that said the numbers don't lie, I just posted them. Well, maybe they don't pertain to what you were talking about, but I think they may be relevant.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
You're the one that said the numbers don't lie, I just posted them. Well, maybe they don't pertain to what you were talking about, but I think they may be relevant.

How are those polling numbers relevant to the economy?

Because Mitt Romney has persuaded a certain number of Americans his economic plan would benefit the middle class?

The math in Romney/Ryan economics have been analysed, and it doesn't work.



That it will probably take Romney's magic underwear to pull off what they're claiming they can do.

I don't think it takes magic underwear, but maybe a good liar?



Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Tito24 on October 16, 2012, 11:08:37 AM
that was a real president
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2012, 11:15:13 AM
Let's face it, you libs are in a state of panic. Obama is taking a shit in every poll. He was supposedly kicking Romneys ass just a few weeks ago now Romney is either beating or even witht he lier in chief.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Hulkotron on October 16, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Let's face it, you libs are in a state of panic. Obama is taking a shit in every poll. He was supposedly kicking Romneys ass just a few weeks ago now Romney is either beating or even witht he lier in chief.

Are you going to watch the debate tonight, Coach?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: James28 on October 16, 2012, 11:17:18 AM
his best role is when he criticizes people... when he s not president himself... As if he d do better than any of both obama or romney. He s just interested in talking loud without much risks at the moment , hoping to be in power again later, but just like the others he has no control over anything that's coming. He s just thinking about himself, gratuitous fame and attention at no cost.
Isnt he the guy who needed to be sucked off by a secretary cause his ugly fat old wife made a misery of his sex life? and you want that dude to be president? Oh well.

What's coming? For years now people talk about 'what's coming'. You've been on about it for a long time now. What exactly is coming and when can we look forward to welcome it?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
What's coming? For years now people talk about 'what's coming'. You've been on about it for a long time now. What exactly is coming and when can we look forward to welcome it?

Well looks like someone needs to open some books, especially history books.

I ll make it quick and simple for you tho; what happen when you suddenly have 4 people and only enough food / ressources for only one?

We ve created generations of spoiled immature kids who have no idea what's coming their way, a disaster built by those who were supposed to take care of their future.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: James28 on October 16, 2012, 11:31:06 AM
Well looks like someone needs to open some books, especially history books.

I ll make it quick and simple for you tho; what happen when you suddenly have 4 people and only enough food / ressources for only one?

So, nothing is coming? Oh ok, another war? Then what? Business as usual afterwards. Good times roll, then what? Oh, another war. Surely you don't think this is a secret?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 11:32:23 AM
So, nothing is coming? Oh ok, another war? Then what? Business as usual afterwards. Good times roll, then what? Oh, another war. Surely you don't think this is a secret?
Ha ha, i see we have another tough guy here.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: James28 on October 16, 2012, 11:41:52 AM
Ha ha, i see we have another tough guy here.

And I see you still cannot tell 'what's coming'. Vague and cryptic as if anyone is impressed whilst you yourself have no idea. I'll venture a guess. An awakening from the shackles of religion. A war between Islam and the West.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: SilverSpoon on October 16, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
It is pretty simple if you have a firm understanding of economics.

Bill Clinton was absolutely in the right place at the right time, and was no dobut the beneficiary of Reagan's "Trickle Down" Economics taking a firm hold.

How long do you think it truly takes for an economic plan to take full effect?  Hmmmm....about 8-12 years???
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Emmortal on October 16, 2012, 12:03:31 PM
How are those polling numbers relevant to the economy?

Because Mitt Romney has persuaded a certain number of Americans his economic plan would benefit the middle class?

The math in Romney/Ryan economics have been analysed, and it doesn't work.



I don't think it takes magic underwear, but maybe a good liar?



Please outline the Obama economic plan that will radically change the situation we are in and start job growth in the next 12 months.

Also please detail the plan that Obama instituted over the last 4 years as POTUS that has brought economic prosperity to anyone except the rich.  Note: The 1% over the last 4 years have made more money than they have in the previous 4 years under Bush just as an FYI.  So please explain how this economic plan by Obama has helped the middle class, go into precise detail.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: ChopperRider on October 16, 2012, 12:43:09 PM
Unless you're a millionaire or billionaire, do you honestly think Mitt Romney is looking out for your best interest?


Do you think Bill, or any Clinton for that matter, are looking out for your best interest?  ::)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Shockwave on October 16, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Do you think Bill, or any Clinton for that matter, are looking out for your best interest?  ::)
Lol, believing any politician at that level cares about you, epic gullibility.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
And I see you still cannot tell 'what's coming'. Vague and cryptic as if anyone is impressed whilst you yourself have no idea. I'll venture a guess. An awakening from the shackles of religion. A war between Islam and the West.
lol you re a moron, i didnt repeat myself cause i mentioned it so many times...

Europe economy is collapsing, usa economy is right behind, then asia/china have nobody to buy their shit anymore. Tons of people lose their jobs but those who work in security, food and clothes production, there's an hyperinflation and bills arent worth the paper they re printed on anymore. Nanny states cant pay retired people and fire most of their employees.. Throw in some muslim headcases, racial/ethnic urban wars in most occidental countries between white and colored middle and lower classes, and you get the picture. And i m not going to develop the fact that tons of youths are formed for jobs that are useless in the west and will be even more useless during a global recession/depression.
Last fatherless , depressed spoiled raised by batshit crazy leftist feminist women generations are used to nanny states and having everything for nothing, playing video games all day long while getting welfare checks, but all this "lalaland"  is built on emptiness, vacuity, and the rich people who are cautious not to let know the morons from down below what's going to hit them are preparing their nests in secure places while the average joe is going to struggle more and more every single day to put food on the table. Lots of angry, frustrated, uneducated people who want to find a scapegoat as hunger grows...who all think they re tough guys cause they spent the last 40 years admiring action movies heroes...

It's has alrdy begun and it's going to last at least one or two decades, but who knows. Basically if you or your parents dont own shit, worse if you have debts, you re screwed.
Most realistic thinkers are now convinced we re going to face a global de-civilization process with no end in sight, basically returning to the middle age for a while before a new kind of society emerges, IF a new society successfuly emerges, but nothing is certain. Obviously, a lot of people wont be part of this new society. Let's not forget that nowadays most people in occident are faithless -but muslims- and would sell their mother to buy the last pair of shoes or videogame... A kind of free for all like we ve never seen before.

Religion actually gave a meaning to people lives, to the past, present, and future , explained their place in the big picture, nowadays people believe in "nothing" but their own self satisfaction and gratification thru material goods and a blind, animalistic race for more money that dont even make them any happier, and as a result dont even reproduce nor take care of their kids if they have any. And they re facing an ever growing number of fanatical islamists worldwide who catter to most of those in the west who are nostalgic of past socialo communist "experiences", andwho swore it is as "announced" their time to "conquer the world".
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: ChopperRider on October 16, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Lol, believing any politician at that level cares about you, epic gullibility.

Like Michelle Obama wouldn't trample over 10,000 starving, homeless kids just to get her man elected, let's be real here folks.
 ::)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2012, 01:00:38 PM
Uh Oh!


http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2012, 01:03:07 PM
You resort to simple, non-substantive attacks in order to defend your position.

Sounds a lot like Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

The numbers don't lie, get the facts.





Mmmm, if you've been paying attention since that debate, Ryan's numbers were pretty much right on. Biden's lies in that debate already came back to bite him in his ass....even the lib media tore him up.





 
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 01:05:08 PM
Well, he's hardly gonna trash Barack. Plus, he's using the spotlight to continue to burnish himself/his legacy. Shrewd. 
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: bike nut on October 16, 2012, 01:14:42 PM
Well, he's hardly gonna trash Barack. Plus, he's using the spotlight to continue to burnish himself/his legacy. Shrewd. 

Trying to keep his ugly fucking wife out of jail for her fuckup at the Consulate in Libya....
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Trying to keep his ugly fucking wife out of jail for her fuckup at the Consulate in Libya....
Out of nowhere it's bike nut with some crazy. Never know what you're gonna get, folks.    ;D
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: bike nut on October 16, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Out of nowhere it's bike nut with some crazy. Never know what you're gonna get, folks.    ;D

Shillary Covering for the Chocolate Failure....

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html

I know you're slow, try to keep up....mmmkay?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 01:25:11 PM
Shillary Covering for the Chocolate Failure....

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html

I know you're slow, try to keep up....mmmkay?
Not bad. She's falling on her sword. Pretty sure reduced security for US consulates, worldwide, was a Republican 'budgetary' policy initiative. But that was a while ago, so I'm sure you've forgotten.    ;)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Lord Humungous on October 16, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
Romney wont be any worse than the Kenyan, give him the keys for a while
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: bike nut on October 16, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
Not bad. She's falling on her sword. Pretty sure reduced security for US consulates, worldwide, was a Republican 'budgetary' policy initiative. But that was a while ago, so I'm sure you've forgotten.    ;)

Joe Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security."

The facts:

On Wednesday, the State Department's former point man on security in Libya told the House Oversight Committee that he asked for additional security help for the Benghazi facility months before the attack, but was denied.

Various communications dating back a year asked for three to five diplomatic security agents, according to testimony at Wednesday's hearing. But Eric Nordstrom, the one-time regional security officer, said he verbally asked for 12 agents.

The request for 12 agents was rebuffed by the regional director of the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, Nordstrom testified.

"For me and my staff, it was abundantly clear that we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident," Nordstrom said.

Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy responded, at the hearing, to suggestions the State Department was responsible for a lack of preparedness: "We regularly assess risk and resource allocation, a process involving the considered judgments of experienced professionals on the ground and in Washington, using the best available information."

Conclusion: It's unclear how high Nordstrom's request got in the administration, but he did ask the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs for more security help at the Benghazi post.

Spin it all you want Chimp.....the Chocolate Failure takes full blame.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 01:38:08 PM
Joe Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security."

The facts:

On Wednesday, the State Department's former point man on security in Libya told the House Oversight Committee that he asked for additional security help for the Benghazi facility months before the attack, but was denied.

Various communications dating back a year asked for three to five diplomatic security agents, according to testimony at Wednesday's hearing. But Eric Nordstrom, the one-time regional security officer, said he verbally asked for 12 agents.

The request for 12 agents was rebuffed by the regional director of the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, Nordstrom testified.

"For me and my staff, it was abundantly clear that we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident," Nordstrom said.

Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy responded, at the hearing, to suggestions the State Department was responsible for a lack of preparedness: "We regularly assess risk and resource allocation, a process involving the considered judgments of experienced professionals on the ground and in Washington, using the best available information."

Conclusion: It's unclear how high Nordstrom's request got in the administration, but he did ask the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs for more security help at the Benghazi post.

Spin it all you want Chimp.....the Chocolate Failure takes full blame.
Took you long enough to cobble that together. And the source? 
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Hulkotron on October 16, 2012, 01:40:44 PM
Yes, no source = suspicious
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: bike nut on October 16, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
Took you long enough to cobble that together. And the source? 

CNN Fact Check.....

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/politics/fact-check-benghazi-security/index.html

But nice attempt at the liberal "blame Bush" fallback position.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 01:58:25 PM
CNN Fact Check.....

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/politics/fact-check-benghazi-security/index.html

But nice attempt at the liberal "blame Bush" fallback position.
Blame Bush!? Where did that come from?  Wait, I can guess.   


Same article:

The facts:

According to Democratic House Oversight Committee staff, the amount that the GOP-led House passed for two accounts that pay for embassy security in fiscal 2012 ($2.311 billion) was $330 million less than the Obama administration had requested ($2.641 billion).

A GOP House Appropriations Committee aide confirmed the House bill had less in these accounts than what the administration requested.

However, the final bill, after being worked on by the Democratic-led Senate, put in more money than what had passed in the House. The final bill, which passed with bipartisan support, gave a total of $2.37 billion to these accounts for fiscal 2012 -- about $270 million less than what the administration had requested.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2012, 02:09:37 PM
Blame Bush!? Where did that come from?  Wait, I can guess.   


Same article:

The facts:

According to Democratic House Oversight Committee staff, the amount that the GOP-led House passed for two accounts that pay for embassy security in fiscal 2012 ($2.311 billion) was $330 million less than the Obama administration had requested ($2.641 billion).

A GOP House Appropriations Committee aide confirmed the House bill had less in these accounts than what the administration requested.

However, the final bill, after being worked on by the Democratic-led Senate, put in more money than what had passed in the House. The final bill, which passed with bipartisan support, gave a total of $2.37 billion to these accounts for fiscal 2012 -- about $270 million less than what the administration had requested.


Sorry Chimps, but you lost me at "According to DEMOCRATIC House Oversite Committee Staff". Regardless, they claim they didn't have enough for security but they found a way to pay for hundreds of millions of dollars for Chevy Volt charging stations throughout all of the US Consulates?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Sorry Chimps, but you lost me at "According to DEMOCRATIC House Oversite Committee Staff". Regardless, they claim they didn't have enough for security but they found a way to pay for hundreds of millions of dollars for Chevy Volt charging stations throughout all of the US Consulates?
Hi Coach. Actually, I was quoting from an article that bike nut cited (see above). Take it up with him.      ;D 
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
Please outline the Obama economic plan that will radically change the situation we are in and start job growth in the next 12 months.


Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 16, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Didn't see but....who cares. The entire left lost credibility a loooooong time.ago.

and the right is credible?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: The_Hammer on October 16, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Outline of President Obama's strategy Vs. Mitt Romney's.


http://www.barackobama.com/plans?source=OM2012_LB_YT_20120926_table_vid_URL&subsource=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=20120926_table_vid_URL (http://www.barackobama.com/plans?source=OM2012_LB_YT_20120926_table_vid_URL&subsource=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=20120926_table_vid_URL)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Shockwave on October 16, 2012, 02:22:45 PM


Responding with a TV ad, classic.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Shockwave on October 16, 2012, 02:23:27 PM
Outline of President Obama's strategy Vs. Mitt Romney's.


http://www.barackobama.com/plans?source=OM2012_LB_YT_20120926_table_vid_URL&subsource=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=20120926_table_vid_URL (http://www.barackobama.com/plans?source=OM2012_LB_YT_20120926_table_vid_URL&subsource=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=20120926_table_vid_URL)
You realize that link has no specifics, right? Same as Romney. You're just parroting talking points.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: bike nut on October 16, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
The facts:
According to Democratic House Oversight Committee staff, the amount that the GOP-led House passed for two accounts that pay for embassy security in fiscal 2012 ($2.311 billion) was $330 million less than the Obama administration had requested ($2.641 billion).
A GOP House Appropriations Committee aide confirmed the House bill had less in these accounts than what the administration requested.
However, the final bill, after being worked on by the Democratic-led Senate, put in more money than what had passed in the House. The final bill, which passed with bipartisan support, gave a total of $2.37 billion to these accounts for fiscal 2012 -- about $270 million less than what the administration had requested.

From the Congressional Hearings....

At a hearing of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on October 10th, Representative Darrell Issa, Republican of California and the committee’s chairman, talked of “examining security failures that led to the Benghazi tragedy.” He said lawmakers had an obligation to protect federal workers overseas.

On “Face The Nation” on October 14th, Issa did say that if more money was truly needed for embassy security, “Congress would respond.” But he also stressed that he didn’t see money as the reason behind the security failures in Libya: “In the case of our committee, we’re recognizing that there was 2.2 billion dollars in a discretionary fund that could have been used for security, still could be used for security enhancements throughout the region. Plus, the DOD, the military, if we need these things to keep our diplomats safe in these countries, we need to start spending that money and not claim that we don’t have enough money.”

Issa went on to note that Charlene Lamb, the State Department official who fielded security requests from the Libya U.S. diplomatic officials had said that money wasn’t the reason for the slim security in Libya. Consider this exchange from the congressional hearing on Libya last week:

“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

“No, sir,” said Lamb.

During the hearings, Elijah Cummings, a Democratic congressman from Maryland and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, tried to make the GOP funding cuts a major issue — only to be foiled by Lamb’s response in her exchange with Rohrabacher.

It wasn’t insufficient funds that emerged as the key problem in the hearings; instead, it was the State Department’s refusal to acknowledge that the level of danger in Libya warranted additional security — possibly because of the pressure to not make the decision to get involved in Libya look like a debacle. “In those conversations, I recall I was specifically told you cannot request a SST [Site Security Team] extension,” Eric Nordstrom, who was a regional security officer at the State Department who had been stationed in Libya for several months and had made security requests, testified last week about his conversations with Charlene Lamb. “How I interpreted that was that there was going to be too much political costs, or for some reason, there was hesitancy on that.”


Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: _bruce_ on October 16, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: tu_holmes on October 16, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
It is pretty simple if you have a firm understanding of economics.

Bill Clinton was absolutely in the right place at the right time, and was no dobut the beneficiary of Reagan's "Trickle Down" Economics taking a firm hold.

How long do you think it truly takes for an economic plan to take full effect?  Hmmmm....about 8-12 years???

So we are saying that Obama's economic upswing won't be fully realized for another 4-8 years?

Interesting.

Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
Didn't see but....who cares. The entire left lost credibility a loooooong time.ago.

Didn't see it? but who cares? my god your a fucking moron, please don't vote. Stay home and listen to rush.

You are the sheep we speak of, you only listen to right wing bullshit (no left wing bullshit) but fall for it. You are a christian also, which explains a lot.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: GigantorX on October 16, 2012, 04:42:12 PM
So we are saying that Obama's economic upswing won't be fully realized for another 4-8 years?

Interesting.



The difference is that Obama doesn't have nor has ever had an economic plan.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: tu_holmes on October 16, 2012, 04:46:37 PM
The difference is that Obama doesn't have nor has ever had an economic plan.

That's not true... You may not agree with it, but the stimulus, was in fact, part of a plan.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
Not bad. She's falling on her sword. Pretty sure reduced security for US consulates, worldwide, was a Republican 'budgetary' policy initiative. But that was a while ago, so I'm sure you've forgotten.    ;)

State department testified that budgetary matters had nothing to do with security levels. 

You = FAIL
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Fury on October 16, 2012, 05:39:44 PM
Not bad. She's falling on her sword. Pretty sure reduced security for US consulates, worldwide, was a Republican 'budgetary' policy initiative. But that was a while ago, so I'm sure you've forgotten.    ;)

The $2 billion they have a sitting in account for security measures says otherwise.


I find it funny that the same people who criticize defense and military spending for being too high are now advocating for more defense and military spending because Obama has been backed into a corner as a result of his pussy-whipped pandering to Islamists. Haha.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: whork on October 17, 2012, 01:12:45 AM
The $2 billion they have a sitting in account for security measures says otherwise.


I find it funny that the same people who criticize defense and military spending for being too high are now advocating for more defense and military spending because Obama has been backed into a corner as a result of his pussy-whipped pandering to Islamists. Haha.

What a pathetic post ::)
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: garebear on October 17, 2012, 01:15:40 AM
Well looks like someone needs to open some books, especially history books.

I ll make it quick and simple for you tho; what happen when you suddenly have 4 people and only enough food / ressources for only one?

We ve created generations of spoiled immature kids who have no idea what's coming their way, a disaster built by those who were supposed to take care of their future.
Plus they don't pray enough, right?

Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: James28 on October 18, 2012, 08:42:40 AM
lol you re a moron, i didnt repeat myself cause i mentioned it so many times...

Europe economy is collapsing, usa economy is right behind, then asia/china have nobody to buy their shit anymore. Tons of people lose their jobs but those who work in security, food and clothes production, there's an hyperinflation and bills arent worth the paper they re printed on anymore. Nanny states cant pay retired people and fire most of their employees.. Throw in some muslim headcases, racial/ethnic urban wars in most occidental countries between white and colored middle and lower classes, and you get the picture. And i m not going to develop the fact that tons of youths are formed for jobs that are useless in the west and will be even more useless during a global recession/depression.
Last fatherless , depressed spoiled raised by batshit crazy leftist feminist women generations are used to nanny states and having everything for nothing, playing video games all day long while getting welfare checks, but all this "lalaland"  is built on emptiness, vacuity, and the rich people who are cautious not to let know the morons from down below what's going to hit them are preparing their nests in secure places while the average joe is going to struggle more and more every single day to put food on the table. Lots of angry, frustrated, uneducated people who want to find a scapegoat as hunger grows...who all think they re tough guys cause they spent the last 40 years admiring action movies heroes...

It's has alrdy begun and it's going to last at least one or two decades, but who knows. Basically if you or your parents dont own shit, worse if you have debts, you re screwed.
Most realistic thinkers are now convinced we re going to face a global de-civilization process with no end in sight, basically returning to the middle age for a while before a new kind of society emerges, IF a new society successfuly emerges, but nothing is certain. Obviously, a lot of people wont be part of this new society. Let's not forget that nowadays most people in occident are faithless -but muslims- and would sell their mother to buy the last pair of shoes or videogame... A kind of free for all like we ve never seen before.

Religion actually gave a meaning to people lives, to the past, present, and future , explained their place in the big picture, nowadays people believe in "nothing" but their own self satisfaction and gratification thru material goods and a blind, animalistic race for more money that dont even make them any happier, and as a result dont even reproduce nor take care of their kids if they have any. And they re facing an ever growing number of fanatical islamists worldwide who catter to most of those in the west who are nostalgic of past socialo communist "experiences", andwho swore it is as "announced" their time to "conquer the world".

Some truth in what you say, but not the whole truth.

The economy is not collapsing, it's correcting itself. For years the Western nations have been gouging the productive to fund the unproductive. You're correct that we've raised whole generations on a diet of government hand holding, and that cannot continue. Hence you have Greece, Spain, Italy and the likes seeing mass austerity measures. What these stupid rioting fucks cannot understand that 70-80% of the population cannot exist working for the public sector (it's 72% in Greece irrc), and tap up the private sector to fund them, this cannot continue and it's coming to pass now. Even here in the UK the Conservative government is about to cut benefits, forcing people out to work. We're now onto our 3rd generation here of people never having to lift a finger, and we've had stories here of the same family members of 3 generations never working. They're about to have the carpet pulled from under them within the next 10 years. That's why you'll see rioting and demonstrations, not because the economy is collapsing.

Also wildly inaccurate about those who work in food production and security being safe jobs. Infrastructure is huge. Massive. Alternative energies. Transport. These are all industries on the up.

You're a bit of a doom prophet aren't you?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: James28 on October 18, 2012, 08:44:32 AM
Plus they don't pray enough, right?



He's not totally wrong, but he takes it too far. There's hundreds or thousands of jobs available in the UK alone. It's just easier for people to do the bare minimum and cruise along on welfare.

It's a mindset we have to change first.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton Trashes Romney
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 11:44:02 AM



LOL!!!!!!!

Empty Binder slammed!