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Title: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: HTexan on October 18, 2012, 08:58:38 AM
Wyclef tweeted this yesterday.  :-\
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/17/15/enhanced-buzz-wide-11545-1350502799-3.jpg)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Wiggs on October 18, 2012, 08:59:57 AM
Wyclef tweeted this yesterday.  :-\
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/17/15/enhanced-buzz-wide-11545-1350502799-3.jpg)

clearly 1 week out, enjoying a bike ride before the big show. Tren Hard, Eat Clen.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: BigCyp on October 18, 2012, 09:00:50 AM
Tbombz just tore a hole in the front of his ageing boxers seeing that
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 09:02:59 AM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: _bruce_ on October 18, 2012, 09:04:44 AM
Tbombz just tore a hole in the front of his ageing boxers seeing that

Hahahaha
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: BigCyp on October 18, 2012, 09:06:35 AM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.

Hahaha.

On a serious note Moen, how much would you pay me to bang you in the ass RNCNPO?
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
Hahaha.

On a serious note Moen, how much would you pay me to bang you in the ass RNCNPO?

Nothing. I'm a top only  ;)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: bradistani on October 18, 2012, 09:46:38 AM
i listen to some snoop when hitting the weights  8)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2012, 09:50:51 AM
THUUUUUUUUUUUG LIFE!




 ::)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: axestream on October 18, 2012, 10:04:03 AM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.

No way this man is gay!  :D

(http://tekstovi-pesama.com/g_img2/0/e/48042/elton%2520john-3.jpg)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: HTexan on October 18, 2012, 10:29:31 AM
Tbombz just tore a hole in the front of his ageing boxers seeing that
lol
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 10:31:06 AM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.
Wyclef had a relationship with Lauren Hill, and he's been known to get some fine females.

And as far as rappers singing, thank Nelly for that.
And what happened to hip-hop, people can say Kanye happened to hiphop, or one can say that hiphop is burning itself out
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: quadzilla456 on October 18, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.
This same logic applies to acting. No true heterosexual would stand in front of a camera and play act. That shit used to be the domain of women and children.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 11:20:13 AM
This same logic applies to acting. No true heterosexual would stand in front of a camera and play act. That shit used to be the domain of women and children.

Singing, rapping, dancing, acting, no sane heterosexual would ever do any of this.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2012, 11:25:57 AM
76ers killed him off this year, ticket buying public voted him out. :( :(
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
Wyclef tweeted this yesterday.  :-\
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/17/15/enhanced-buzz-wide-11545-1350502799-3.jpg)
Met Wyclef at Diamond Gym a couple of times when he was being trained by the late John Kemper. Chill guy...came across as quite humble.

I think all the pics of bodybuilders on the walls affected his common sense. Oiled up and posing onstage is one thing. Posing greased up on your motorcycle in your driveway? Not a good look, bro.  :-X

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CPZh45vN_kc/TPlxZIN8FlI/AAAAAAAAADo/Gfq5Xo6cSWg/s1600/5572.jpg)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Fortress on October 18, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
Hip hop and rap has always been the domain of idiocy and cheesy and low-rent thuggery.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: True on October 18, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
THUUUUUUUUUUUG LIFE!




 ::)



  8)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: True on October 18, 2012, 12:42:34 PM
Hip hop is certainly not what it used to be, but there are still fellas that keep it real in the game. Found this gem the other day, and I was happily surprised by its hip hop value and lyrics. Hell, its even called hip hop and the beat is really nice as well! Give it a go, hip hop is not completely dead... yet. ;)


Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: True on October 18, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
Heres another one. Cant front. 8)


Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:44:23 PM
I heard of the existence of white people who listen to hip hop. Can you imagine that?

They probably rap along thinking they be all tuff and stuff.

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:49:39 PM
Hip hop is certainly not what it used to be, but there are still fellas that keep it real in the game. Found this gem the other day, and I was happily surprised by its hip hop value and lyrics. Hell, its even called hip hop and the beat is really nice as well! Give it a go, hip hop is not completely dead... yet. ;)




Let's hope it dies soon then. We definitely need a Final Solution for hip hop as well. It would be an absolute honor to personally press the start button of a gas chamber filled with the entire Wessssss sssiiiiiitttttttttteeeee eeee gangsta scene.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:51:29 PM
Note to self: we may need more Zyklon B than we needed for the Jews since these guys are used to sitting in rooms filled with toxic fumes.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:52:23 PM
Wyclef tweeted this yesterday.  :-\
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/17/15/enhanced-buzz-wide-11545-1350502799-3.jpg)
What drugs is he on? More than purple drank I'm sure :D








Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
Heres another one. Cant front. 8)



That is not  really current rap music in style or substance, but LEGENDARY artists who comprise the very top of the genre's lyrical food chain coming together to do a record.  Most people under the age of thirty who listen to today's rap music have never even heard of Rakim (the greatest), Nas, KRS1, or DJ Premier. And that is sad.

Kanye had ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS being on that recording with those other emcees.  >:( Simply a bone thrown to the younger generation of rap music listeners.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
Be clear everyone...Wyclef and The Fugees held it down, and "The Score" was a great album.  ;)

(http://www.nogenremusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/the-score.jpg)

As far as the hip-hop of today...most of what I hear (and I don't listen to much of it) sounds tremendously WACK. The southern sound dominates, and the artists tend to be short on lyrics and long on repetitive party chants.

The idea of an emcee carving his own niche and trying to not sound like anyone else appears to be pretty much dead. Its about selling cds instead of proving your unique skills, making the genre more hip-POP than hip-hop in the 2000's.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: True on October 18, 2012, 01:04:46 PM
That is not  really current rap music in style or substance, but LEGENDARY artists who comprise the very top of the genre's lyrical food chain coming together to do a record.  Most people under the age of thirty who listen to today's rap music have never even heard of Rakim (the greatest), Nas, KRS1, or DJ Premier. And that is sad.

Kanye had ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS being on that recording with those other emcees.  >:( Simply a bone thrown to the younger generation of rap music listeners.

Yes, nothing will save hip hop, but there are at least some few up and coming cats who keep the spirit alive, like Hopsin for example. But yes, the golden days are defintly over. Commercial (c)rap is what we mostly get... :'(
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 01:11:15 PM
Immortal Technique is the only relatively young emcee consistently putting out new material that truly impresses me. Admittedly, I don't follow the new music scene all that closely anymore.

Sadly, I get the feeling Tech is largely only appreciated by older rap heads like myself, and is somewhat of an "underground" rapper who probably is largely unknown to high school and college age rap fans.


Representing Harlem, USA!  8)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: claymore on October 18, 2012, 01:11:29 PM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.

"Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?"....Yes
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
"Immortal Technique" hahahaha

Played a little too much Mortal Kombat probably
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Nicademus on October 18, 2012, 01:17:00 PM
Wyclef was never hip-hop more like hip-pop.  The South ruined a generation of rap starting with Master-P and the HotBoyz.

The best rap right now you won't hear on the radio. 
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: bigmc on October 18, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
what happened to hip hop

that got tupac shot
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 01:21:10 PM
Wyclef was never hip-hop more like hip-pop. 
incorrect

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The South ruined a generation of rap starting with Master-P and the HotBoyz.
tend to agree

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The best rap right now you won't hear on the radio.
Most likely true. However it didn't used to be that way during rap's golden age, and I don't have the patience to search for hidden gems by scouring the internet.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 01:25:23 PM
Immortal Technique is the only relatively young emcee consistently putting out new material that truly impresses me. Admittedly, I don't follow the new music scene all that closely anymore.

Sadly, I get the feeling Tech is largely only appreciated by older rap heads like myself, and is somewhat of an "underground" rapper who probably is largely unknown to high school and college age rap fans.


Representing Harlem, USA!  8)

Kendrick Lemar.
Section 8.0 and Overly Dedicated... dope
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:26:57 PM
hip hop isnt really popular anymore.. you still get a little bit here and there..  

this is pretty good..  snoop and wiz.. soundtrack to their movie "high school"  (if you havent seen it, its on netflix. pretty good if your into marijuana and bitches)

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Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
what happened to hip hop

that got tupac shot
::)
The best rap was made before Mr. Shakur came on the scene as a solo artist.  ;) He was a very charismatic, if schizophrenic, dude. However, he didn't do much to advance the lyricism of the art form in any significant way, in my opinion.

You can listen to virtually any Tupac song and be able to recite the lyrics word-for-word along with him after hearing it three times. Try doing that with some of Rakim's, Big Pun's, G Rap's, Nas's, or Treach's best work, to name a few. It'll take you five or ten tries to get it right at a minimum.  ;)

Had he not behave so erratically during his short time on earth and get himself killed, I think Tupac may have had a more impressive career as an actor than as a music artist.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
your talking about hip hop, benny.. spoken word hip hop mostly.. rap is something a little different.. more about the rhythm than the lyrics.. tupac absolutely crushed it in terms of rhythm..  lyrics not as much..
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 18, 2012, 01:42:33 PM

Most likely true. However it didn't used to be that way during rap's golden age, and I don't have the patience to search for hidden gems by scouring the internet.
Then you are not a true fan, you are a fan of convenience. Hiphop is not dead, it is alive and well,  but it does not reside on the airwaves of mainstream America. As posted above, hipPop rules the airwaves, dominating top 20 lists. It's all monkeys yellin over club beats.  :(
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Nicademus on October 18, 2012, 01:43:19 PM
incorrect

No that is correct.


The best rap was made before Mr. Shakur came on the scene as a solo artist.  ;) He was a very charismatic, if schizophrenic, dude. However, he didn't do much to advance the lyricism of the art form in any significant way, in my opinion.

Obvious East Coast bias.  That's cool though because my golden age is 90's West coast rap.  I'll take 2Pac, Dre, Spice-1, Quik over any East Coast MC.

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 03:50:40 PM
your talking about hip hop, benny.. spoken word hip hop mostly.. rap is something a little different.. more about the rhythm than the lyrics.. tupac absolutely crushed it in terms of rhythm..  lyrics not as much..
PLEASE do not attempt to lecture on what is the meaning of hip-hop, son.  ::) I have forgotten more about this cultural art form than you will ever begin to know. You read about it...I lived it.

the greatest  8)

Eric B. & Rakim - My Melody
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Wiggs on October 18, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
your talking about hip hop, benny.. spoken word hip hop mostly.. rap is something a little different.. more about the rhythm than the lyrics.. tupac absolutely crushed it in terms of rhythm..  lyrics not as much..

Hahahahahahhahahahahahha hahahahha...Leave it to Tay-Tay to open his mouth and insert foot or cock in it.  Why don't you continue to educate a n*gga from NY about the finer points of hip-hop and rap.

You're such a nasty, confused little imp.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 04:03:25 PM

Obvious East Coast bias.  That's cool though because my golden age is 90's West coast rap.  I'll take 2Pac, Dre, Spice-1, Quik over any East Coast MC.

Dre? Quik? L-O-L.

There have been some great rappers from various parts of the country, but Dre & Quik do not qualify.
Snoop? Xzibit? The D.O.C.?, among many others? certainly

Of course I have an east coast bias. That is where the art form began [BRONX, NEW YORK], and where the greatest lyricists resided during the golden age of hip-hop (New York metropolitan area).  ;)

From wikipedia:
Hip hop's "golden age" (or "golden era") is a name given to a period in mainstream hip hop, usually cited as being a period varying in time frames during the 1980s and 1990s said to be characterized by its diversity, quality, innovation and influence. There were strong themes of Afrocentricity and political militancy, while the music was experimental and the sampling eclectic.The artists most often associated with the phrase are Run–D.M.C., Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Boogie Down Productions, Eric B. & Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, De La Soul, EPMD, Wu-Tang Clan, A Tribe Called Quest, and the Jungle Brothers. Releases by these acts co-existed in this period with, and were as commercially viable as, those of early gangsta rap artists such as N.W.A, the sex raps of 2 Live Crew, and party-oriented music by acts such as Kid 'n Play, DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince and MC Hammer.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
Personally, after the top two well-earned spots, I would definitely move some artists around in the pecking order. However, without really studying it too closely or going through the list with a fine-toothed comb, I think they did a solid job of at least getting the right names on the list.
Note: I love Lauren Hill, but I feel like she was put at #9 in order to get a female in the top ten (ie., political correctness).


The Source's Top 50 Lyricists Of All Time
Here's what it is according to The Source Magazine Issue #253 on newsstands now:

#1.Rakim

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#2. Nas

#3. The Notorious B.I.G.

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#4. Jay Z

#5. 2PAC

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#6. Eminem

#7.KRS-ONE

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#8. Big Daddy Kane

#9. Lauryn Hill

#10. Melle Mel

#11. LL Cool J

#12. Chuck D

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#13. Andre 3000
#14. Ice Cube
#15. Slick Rick
#16. Scarface
#17. The D.O.C.
#18. Kool G. Rap
#19. Big Pun
#20. Q Tip
#21. Redman
#22. Common
#23. Mos Def
#24. Jadakiss
#25. Queen Latifah
#26. Big L
#27. Pharoahe Monch

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#28. Talib Kweli
#29. Snoop Dogg
#30. Guru
#31. Kanye West
#32. GZA
#33. Method Man
#34. Black Thought
#35. Bun B
#36. Lil Wayne

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#37. Busta Rhymes
#38. Posdnous
#39. Prodigy
#40. T.I.
#41. Fabolous
#42. Ludacris
#43. DMX
#44. Canibus
#45. Lil Kim
#46. Rick Ross

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#47. Styles P
#48. Royce Da 5'9"
#49. Lupe Fiasco
#50. 50 Cent

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Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
Immortal Technique is the only relatively young emcee consistently putting out new material that truly impresses me. Admittedly, I don't follow the new music scene all that closely anymore.

Sadly, I get the feeling Tech is largely only appreciated by older rap heads like myself, and is somewhat of an "underground" rapper who probably is largely unknown to high school and college age rap fans.


Representing Harlem, USA!  8)

A lot of people are down with Immortal, as well as Jay-Dee (RIP), and MF Doom.
It is the college age and HS that best appreciate the underground rappers. Where do you think Kanye got his biggest push from? It was the college age, and Kanye was considered a groundbreaking producer. Remember him walking around with a backpack, like he was still underground after he blew up.
Then you have guys like Clipse who are that fringe of underground and mainstream, they have sleeper albums, and so does RZA, but he's more into producing.
I mainly listen to R&B, and I have to search for the good shit, because like hip-hop, r&b is mostly garbage. It's the "neo-soul" artists that I like the most.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
A lot of people are down with Immortal, as well as Jay-Dee (RIP), and MF Doom.
Perhaps. Honestly, I wouldn't know. If so, good for them.

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It is the college age and HS that best appreciate the underground rappers. Where do you think Kanye got his biggest push from? It was the college age, and Kanye was considered a groundbreaking producer. Remember him walking around with a backpack, like he was still underground after he blew up.
Kanye? For me, who cares. He is overrated and puts out mostly wack garbage. An ego run amok.

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Then you have guys like Clipse who are that fringe of underground and mainstream, they have sleeper albums, and so does RZA, but he's more into producing.
I mainly listen to R&B, and I have to search for the good shit, because like hip-hop, r&b is mostly garbage. It's the "neo-soul" artists that I like the most.
RZA is almost as old as many of the early rappers out of the Bronx. He's definitely no kid...likely in his late 40's.

I will always have an appreciation for the art of rap, but its a new day and the sound is different. I mostly only listen to the old-school stuff I like and that bring the nostalgia for me. lol Occasionally a newer artist like a Lupe Fiasco comes into my sights, but that is more and more rare. I don't even listen to music like I used to. You are more likely to find me listening to 70's-80's R&B, or some jazz or classical music if anything.




Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Rudee on October 18, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
If I had legs that skinny, I wouldn't dare wear shorts or trunks.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on October 18, 2012, 04:53:05 PM
Hasn't Wyclef always been a f a g g o t?

But let's be honest, any man that sings is really a homo. Those gangsta rapper's can act tough all they want, no true heterosexual would pick up a microphone and start singing.

wyclef is................a..... ..... gangsta......rapper?  ??? ::)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 18, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
Lol...as if talking is a skill.

Anyone can rap.  Benny B just admitted it, it takes a whole TEN tries to mimic to most complex rappers.

Try picking up a guitar and see how many trIes it takes to mimic Eddie Van Halen.

FucKing rap is a joke, and only morons listen to it.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 18, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
Wyclef had a relationship with Lauren Hill, and he's been known to get some fine females.

And as far as rappers singing, thank Nelly for that.
And what happened to hip-hop, people can say Kanye happened to hiphop, or one can say that hiphop is burning itself out

Did you catch the VH1 show about some married couple who's husband does g4p yet claims he's straight.lol


http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/846503/nick-and-becky.jhtml#id=1695588
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
Lol...as if talking is a skill.

Anyone can rap.  Benny B just admitted it, it takes a whole TEN tries to mimic to most complex rappers.
No I didn't.  ???
You can recite the lyrics to a Sam Cooke song after listening to it once or twice. Does that mean you could therefore make a record and become a legendary music artist on that basis?

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Try picking up a guitar and see how many trIes it takes to mimic Eddie Van Halen.
Yes, learning to play a musical instrument is more difficult than reciting the lyrics of a song. No shit, Sherlock.  ::)

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FucKing rap is a joke, and I am a moron.
On the moron part, yes I believe you are right.  ;)

If you don't like or can't relate to a certain type of music, that's fine. However, being an arrogant asshole about it is not.

You like Eddie Van Halen...I prefer John Coltrane. I am not going to call you and everyone who likes the sound of a screeching electric guitar a "moron."  C'mon son! That's lame.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: erics on October 18, 2012, 05:43:40 PM
Then you are not a true fan, you are a fan of convenience. Hiphop is not dead, it is alive and well,  but it does not reside on the airwaves of mainstream America. As posted above, hipPop rules the airwaves, dominating top 20 lists. It's all monkeys yellin over club beats.  :(

This.

Hip-pop is the domain of the producer. Convenience rules the airwaves.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: booty on October 18, 2012, 05:49:37 PM
Why is he wearing his undies? 
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 18, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ocjr2lQn1rt4r7po1_500.jpg)

Why is he wearing his undies? 

legit question
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 05:56:57 PM
Lol...as if talking is a skill.

Anyone can rap.  Benny B just admitted it, it takes a whole TEN tries to mimic to most complex rappers.

Try picking up a guitar and see how many trIes it takes to mimic Eddie Van Halen.

FucKing rap is a joke, and only morons listen to it.
Ryan Leslie, artist r&b/hiphop producer, play piano over Lil Wayne's Lollipop...you can't deny that there talent...
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Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 18, 2012, 06:06:31 PM
No I didn't.  ???
You can recite the lyrics to a Sam Cooke song after listening to it once or twice. Does that mean you could therefore make a record and become a legendary music artist on that basis?
Yes, learning to play a musical instrument is more difficult than reciting the lyrics of a song. No shit, Sherlock.  ::)
On the moron part, yes I believe you are right.  ;)

If you don't like or can't relate to a certain type of music, that's fine. However, being an arrogant asshole about it is not.

You like Eddie Van Halen...I prefer John Coltrane. I am not going to call you and everyone who likes the sound of a screeching electric guitar a "moron."  C'mon son! That's lame.

You can recite them, but you can't sing them, big difference.

I can rap, it's Childs play. All.I do is make believe I had a lobotomy and I sound exactly like these "musicians"....ha ha HAAAA

And I'm really no big fan of Van Halen, just an example..
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
You can recite them, but you can't sing them, big difference.

I can rap, it's Childs play. All.I do is make believe I had a lobotomy and I sound exactly like these "musicians"....ha ha HAAAA

And I'm really no big fan of Van Halen, just an example..
Frestyling/battle rapping is hard, it takes yrs...Comin up with/spitting something off the top of your head, especially battling someone is a skill. Quick thinking, knowing metaphors, etc.

Then there is the writing of rhymes. Good lyrical content is hard...you know the good ones are the ones you have to say, "rewind that?", and your like damn...
But today it's watered down, they are not challenged. It's mostly what sounds good in the club. Which translates to catchphrases, and bangin bass.

I personally would rather listen to Yoyo Ma or Esperanza Spalding or Nneka than the majority of hip-hop today.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: f450 on October 19, 2012, 06:49:59 AM
Hip hop and rap has always been the domain of idiocy and cheesy and low-rent thuggery.

Hope this helps.

this is true of pop music in general of which hip hop is major part.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2012, 02:49:48 AM
You can recite them, but you can't sing them, big difference.

I can rap, it's Childs play. All.I do is make believe I had a lobotomy and I sound exactly like these "musicians"....ha ha HAAAA

And I'm really no big fan of Van Halen, just an example..
Sure you can. LOL  ::)

I'd love to hear you...a fifty year-old white guy...bust a few rhymes that would impress serious rap fans. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for the laughs, bro!  :D


Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2012, 08:04:36 AM
Nas - "ILLMATIC" Album Release Press Kit (1994)
Promotional Video for Nas' debut album release of Illmatic.

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 21, 2012, 08:25:29 AM
They are selling you a product.

All hardcore rap fans are being played.

You can bet there is some rich, old white men behind all of it... not JZ or PuffyDaddy (or whatever that moron calls himself today).
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
They are selling you a product.

All hardcore rap MUSIC fans are being played.

You can bet there is some rich, old white men behind all of it... not JZ or PuffyDaddy (or whatever that moron calls himself today).

FIXED

Thanks for expressing the obvious.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 21, 2012, 08:37:07 AM
FIXED

Thanks for expressing the obvious.

Not these days....save for radio garbage.

Most music these days is self financed/produced with no money involved outside touring/swag.

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2012, 08:48:16 AM
Not these days....save for radio garbage.

Most music these days is self financed/produced with no money involved outside touring/swag.


Yesterday, today and tomorrow...music artists are selling you a product. They are not musicians in the entertainment business to not make money and performing purely out of the goodness of their hearts in order to give you a pleasurable experience.

There have always been underground, self-financed music artists. Nothing new under the sun.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 21, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
FIXED

Thanks for expressing the obvious.

Sorry for my racist post Mr B.  You sure schooled me.. GetBig style.





 ::) 
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Benny B on October 21, 2012, 09:01:23 AM
Sorry for my racist post Mr B.  You sure schooled me.. GetBig style.


 ::) 
You're welcome.  ;)

Who was it that stated that your post was racist, "Mr Anabolic"?  ???










 ::) :P ;)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 21, 2012, 09:29:59 AM
Yesterday, today and tomorrow...music artists are selling you a product. They are not musicians in the entertainment business to not make money and performing purely out of the goodness of their hearts in order to give you a pleasurable experience.


No we perform because we love doing it, as do most of the musicians I know. Many pay to play these days. Only an idiot gets into music to make money.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 21, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
Ryan Leslie, artist r&b/hiphop producer, play piano over Lil Wayne's Lollipop...you can't deny that there talent...
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he makes some good music too

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 21, 2012, 12:34:03 PM
PLEASE do not attempt to lecture on what is the meaning of hip-hop, son.  ::) I have forgotten more about this cultural art form than you will ever begin to know. You read about it...I lived it.

the greatest  8)

Eric B. & Rakim - My Melody


you "lived" hip-hop, huh ?  ;D what does that even mean ? are you saying that your a recording artist ? or that you simply lived in NYC and listened to the music with your friends?  ;D the majority of hip-hop artists have soled drugs in their past and make drug dealing and drug using a big part of their lyrics.. have you done those things? pimping bitches, you done that ? living a life of crime, you done that ? how about the more enlightened side of hip hop, philosophical, moral, spiritual, political preaching .. you able to do any of that ?    

my man benny..   you seem like a cool cat.. so keep it cool,,  mcfly..  ;)
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 21, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
Hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahha...Leave it to Tay-Tay to open his mouth and insert foot or cock in it.  Why don't you continue to educate a n*gga from NY about the finer points of hip-hop and rap.

You're such a nasty, confused little imp.
LOL... you using the term "n*gga" is just plain hilarious..  ;D
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: cephissus on October 21, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
benny, why the hate for kanye?



???

people who say he's a shit mc... have forgotten
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: cephissus on October 21, 2012, 01:08:12 PM
otoh, i see what you're saying ;D

Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: tbombz on October 21, 2012, 01:12:07 PM
otoh, i see what you're saying ;D



NAS is legit. illmatic is dope, every single track. pick up that album if you dont have it.


Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: cephissus on October 21, 2012, 01:20:49 PM
NAS is legit. illmatic is dope, every single track. pick up that album if you dont have it.




it's been sitting in my car's cd player for the last year.   flip it on whenever i get sick of the radio's nonsense.

honestly though i might like it was written better.  i gave you power, take it in blood, if i ruled the world, the message... the production on these tracks is incredible, nothing on illmatic comes close.  but lyrically he's less consistent on it was written, i think.
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: The Scott on October 21, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
Hippity Hop is for mental midgets and rap is for those who don't even measure up to that level.  There is musical excellence in black people.  It's called Jazz. 
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Snorlax on October 21, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
stfu tdongz u dun know shit  ::) >:(
Title: Re: What has happen to hip hop?
Post by: Tightskin on October 21, 2012, 02:25:44 PM
benny, why the hate for kanye?



???

people who say he's a shit mc... have forgotten
Kanye is a jackass.  Obuma approved.