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Holy cow!
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Obama seems to have already forgotten that his own Libyan ambassador was sodomized and murdered. In fact, he forgot within 24 hours when he left to campaign and party in Vegas.
Talk about amnesia......
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Holy cow!
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LOL at the fucking brain dead moochers of society in the background behind him. Not one of them will ever earn more than $25k/yr in their entire lifetime.
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Holy cow!
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Now that's one HELLUVA Sheru Classic!
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Obama seems to have already forgotten that his own Libyan ambassador was sodomized and murdered. In fact, he forgot within 24 hours when he left to campaign and party in Vegas.
Talk about amnesia......
Sodomized eh? ::)
He died of smoke inhalation.
It's a tragedy that a human was murdered, but it's plain disgusting when people turn the death of a person into a political talking point.
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What do you think Obama is doing by covering his ass before a election.. None of them can get their story straight and Obama is saying what he is saying to protect his election bid.. The document ws just released stating that the ambassador and his staff wanted more security.. They didn't get it.. Yet the Brits took their people out because it wasn't safe.. So who is using it for political purposes ? To say obama and his admin is not responsible is silly... They attacked the embassy twice in 4months.. Yet Obama keeps them there without proper security even after it was asked for? His fault... To cover up the details is a insult to those who died.. If you don't think so ask the families.. They are getting very vocal..
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What do you think Obama is doing by covering his ass before a election.. None of them can get their story straight and Obama is saying what he is saying to protect his election bid.. The document ws just released stating that the ambassador and his staff wanted more security.. They didn't get it.. Yet the Brits took their people out because it wasn't safe.. So who is using it for political purposes ? To say obama and his admin is not responsible is silly... They attacked the embassy twice in 4months.. Yet Obama keeps them there without proper security even after it was asked for? His fault... To cover up the details is a insult to those who died.. If you don't think so ask the families.. They are getting very vocal..
HOW MANY MUTHERFUCKERS FROM THE USA LIVE IN HOT ZONES AND NEED MORE SECURITY? I'M TIRED OF HEARING THIS SHIT. AN EXTRA DOZEN MARINES, JUST MEANT AN EXTRA 12 DEAD!
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Obama acting like the baby he is
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AN EXTRA DOZEN MARINES, JUST MEANT AN EXTRA 12 DEAD!
Sorry, no.
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Holy cow!
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Obama only attacks Romney but doesn’t lay out any of his plans. Not ONE word.
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Obama only attacks Romney but doesn’t lay out any of his plans. Not ONE word.
Here are MANY words for you Princess. You have Romney's plan laying around?
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THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT
1. Tax Cuts to Help America’s Small Businesses Hire and Grow
- Cutting the payroll tax in half for 98 percent of businesses: The President’s plan will cut in half the taxes paid by businesses on their first $5 million in payroll, targeting the benefit to the 98 percent of firms that have payroll below this threshold.
- A complete payroll tax holiday for added workers or increased wages: The President’s plan will completely eliminate payroll taxes for firms that increase their payroll by adding new workers or increasing the wages of their current worker (the benefit is capped at the first $50 million in payroll increases).
- Extending 100% expensing into 2012: This continues an effective incentive for new investment.
- Reforms and regulatory reductions to help entrepreneurs and small businesses access capital.
2. Putting Workers Back on the Job While Rebuilding and Modernizing America
- A “Returning Heroes” hiring tax credit for veterans: This provides tax credits from $5,600 to $9,600 to encourage the hiring of unemployed veterans.
- Preventing up to 280,000 teacher layoffs,while keeping cops and firefighters on the job.
- Modernizing at least 35,000 public schools across the country,supporting new science labs, Internet-ready classrooms and renovations at schools across the country, in rural and urban areas.
- Immediate investments in infrastructure and a bipartisan National Infrastructure Bank, modernizing our roads, rail, airports and waterways while putting hundreds of thousands of workers back on the job.
- A New “Project Rebuild”, which will put people to work rehabilitating homes, businesses and communities, leveraging private capital and scaling land banks and other public-private collaborations.
- Expanding access to high-speed wireless as part of a plan for freeing up the nation’s spectrum.
3. Pathways Back to Work for Americans Looking for Jobs.
- The most innovative reform to the unemployment insurance program in 40 years: As part of an extension of unemployment insurance to prevent 5 million Americans looking for work from losing their benefits, the President’s plan includes innovative work-based reforms to prevent layoffs and give states greater flexibility to use UI funds to best support job-seekers, including:
Work-Sharing: UI for workers whose employers choose work-sharing over layoffs.
- A new “Bridge to Work” program: The plan builds on and improves innovative state programs where those displacedtake temporary, voluntary work or pursue on-the-job training.
- Innovative entrepreneurship and wage insurance programs: States will also be empowered to implement wage insurance to help reemploy older workers and programs that make it easier for unemployed workers to start their own businesses.
- A $4,000 tax credit to employers for hiring long-term unemployed workers.
- Prohibiting employers from discriminating against unemployed workers when hiring.
- Expanding job opportunities for low-income youth and adults through a fund for successful approaches for subsidized employment, innovative training programs and summer/year-round jobs for youth.
4. Tax Relief for Every American Worker and Family
- Cutting payroll taxes in half for 160 million workers next year: The President’s plan will expand the payroll tax cut passed last year to cut workers payroll taxes in half in 2012 – providing a $1,500 tax cut to the typical American family, without negatively impacting the Social Security Trust Fund.
- Allowing more Americans to refinance their mortgages at today’s near 4 percent interest rates, which can put more than $2,000 a year in a family’s pocket.
5. Fully Paid for as Part of the President’s Long-Term Deficit Reduction Plan.
- To ensure that the American Jobs Act is fully paid for, the President will call on the Joint Committee to come up with additional deficit reduction necessary to pay for the Act and still meet its deficit target. The President will, in the coming days, release a detailed plan that will show how we can do that while achieving the additional deficit reduction necessary to meet the President’s broader goal of stabilizing our debt as a share of the economy.
AMERICAN JOBS ACT OVERVIEW
The American people understand that the economic crisis and the deep recession weren’t created overnight and won’t be solved overnight. The economic security of the middle class has been under attack for decades. That’s why President Obama believes we need to do more than just recover from this economic crisis – we need to rebuild the economy the American way, based on balance, fairness, and the same set of rules for everyone from Wall Street to Main Street. We can work together to create the jobs of the future by helping small business entrepreneurs, by investing in education, and by making things the world buys. The President understands that to restore an American economy that’s built to last we cannot afford to outsource American jobs and encourage reckless financial deals that put middle class security at risk.
To create jobs, the President unveiled the American Jobs Act – nearly all of which is made up of ideas that have been supported by both Democrats and Republicans, and that Congress should pass right away to get the economy moving now. The purpose of the American Jobs Act is simple: put more people back to work and put more money in the pockets of working Americans. And it would do so without adding a dime to the deficit.
Tax Cuts to Help America’s Small Businesses Hire and Grow
New Tax Cuts to Businesses to Support Hiring and Investment:The President is proposing three tax cuts to provide immediate incentives to hire and invest:
- Cutting the Payroll Tax Cut in Half for the First $5 Million in Wages:This provision would cut the payroll tax in half to 3.1% for employers on the first $5 million in wages, providing broad tax relief to all businesses but targeting it to the 98 percent of firms with wages below this level.
- Temporarily Eliminating Employer Payroll Taxes on Wages for New Workers or Raises for Existing Workers:The President is proposing a full holiday on the 6.2% payroll tax firms pay for any growth in their payroll up to $50 million above the prior year, whether driven by new hires, increased wages or both. This is the kind of job creation measure that CBO has called the most effective of all tax cuts in supporting employment.
- Extending 100% Expensing into 2012:The President is proposing to extend 100 percent expensing, the largest temporary investment incentive in history, allowing all firms – large and small – to take an immediate deduction on investments in new plants and equipment.
- Helping Entrepreneurs and Small Businesses Access Capital and Grow: The President’s plan includes administrative, regulatory and legislative measures – including those developed and recommended by the President’s Jobs Council – to help small firms start and expand. This includes changing the way the government does business with small firms. The Administration will soon announce a plan to accelerate government payments to small contractors to help put money in their hands faster. The President is also charging his CIO and CTO to, within 90 days, stand up a one-stop, online portal for small businesses to easily access government services. As part of the President’s Startup America initiative, the Administration will work with the SEC to conduct a comprehensive review of securities regulations from the perspective of these small companies to reduce the regulatory burdens on small business capital formation in ways that are consistent with investor protection, including expanding “crowdfunding” opportunities and increasing mini-offerings. Finally, the President’s plan calls for Congress to pass comprehensive patent reform, increase guarantees for bonds to help small businesses compete for infrastructure projects and remove burdensome withholding requirements that keep capital out of the hands of job creators.
Putting Workers Back on the Job While Rebuilding and Modernizing America
- Tax Credits and Career Readiness Efforts to Support Veterans’ Hiring:The President is proposing a Returning Heroes Tax Credit of up to $5,600 for hiring unemployed veterans who have been looking for a job for more than six months, and a Wounded Warriors Tax Credit of up to $9,600 for hiring unemployed workers with service-connected disabilities who have been looking for a job for more than six months, while creating a new task force to maximize career readiness of servicemembers.
- Preventing Layoffs of Teachers, Cops and Firefighters:The President is proposing to invest $35 billion to prevent layoffs of up to 280,000 teachers, while supporting the hiring of tens of thousands more and keeping cops and firefighters on the job. These funds would help states and localities avoid and reverse layoffs now, requiring that funds be drawn down quickly. Under the President’s proposal, $30 billion be directed towards educators and $5 billion would support the hiring and retention of public safety and first responder personnel.
- Modernizing Over 35,000 Schools – From Science Labs and Internet-Ready Classrooms to Renovated Facilities:The President is proposing a $25 billion investment in school infrastructure that will modernize at least 35,000 public schools – investments that will create jobs, while improving classrooms and upgrading our schools to meet 21st century needs. This includes a priority for rural schools and dedicated funding for Bureau of Indian Education funded schools. Funds could be used for a range of emergency repair and renovation projects, greening and energy efficiency upgrades, asbestos abatement and removal, and modernization efforts to build new science and computer labs and to upgrade technology in our schools. The President is also proposing a $5 billion investment in modernizing community colleges (including tribal colleges), bolstering their infrastructure in this time of need while ensuring their ability to serve future generations of students and communities.
- Making an Immediate Investment in Our Roads, Rails and Airports: The President’s plan includes $50 billion in immediate investments for highways, transit, rail and aviation, helping to modernize an infrastructure that now receives a grade of “D” from the American Society of Civil Engineers and putting hundreds of thousands of construction workers back on the job. The President’s plan includes investments to improve our airports, support NextGen Air Traffic Modernization efforts, and resources for the TIGER and TIFIA programs, which target competitive dollars to innovative multi-modal infrastructure programs. It will also take special steps to enhance infrastructure-related job training opportunities for individuals from underrepresented groups and ensure that small businesses can compete for infrastructure contracts.The President will work administratively to speed infrastructure investment through a recently issued Presidential Memorandum developed with his Jobs Council directingdepartments and agencies to identify high impact, job-creating infrastructure projects that can be expedited in a transparent manner through outstanding review and permitting processes. The call for greater infrastructure investment has been joined by leaders from AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka to U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Thomas Donohue.
- Establishing a National Infrastructure Bank:The President is calling for Congress to pass a National Infrastructure Bank capitalized with $10 billion, in order to leverage private and public capital and to invest in a broad range of infrastructure projects of nationaland regional significance, without earmarks or traditional political influence. The Bank would be based on the model Senators Kerry and Hutchison have championed while building on legislation by Senators Rockefeller and Lautenberg and the work of long-time infrastructure bank champions like Rosa DeLauro and the input of the President’s Jobs Council.
- Project Rebuild: Putting People Back to Work Rehabilitating Homes, Businesses and Communities. The President is proposing to invest $15 billion in a national effort to put construction workers on the job rehabilitating and refurbishing hundreds of thousands of vacant and foreclosed homes and businesses. Building on proven approaches to stabilizing neighborhoods with high concentrations of foreclosures, Project Rebuild will bring in expertise and capital from the private sector, focus on commercial and residential property improvements, and expand innovative property solutions like land banks. This approach will not only create construction jobs but will help reduce blight and crime and stabilize housing prices in areas hardest hit by the housing crisis.
- Expanding Access to High-Speed Wireless in a Fiscally Responsible Way: The President is calling for a deficit reducing plan to deploy high-speed wireless services to at least 98 percent of Americans, including those in more remote rural communities, while freeing up spectrum through incentive auctions, spurring innovation, and creating a nationwide, interoperable wireless network for public safety.
Pathways Back to Work for Americans Looking for Jobs
- Reform Our Unemployment Insurance System to Provide Greater Flexibility, While Ensuring 6 Million People Do Not Lose Benefits: Drawing on the best ideas of both parties and the most innovative states, the President is proposing the most sweeping reforms to the unemployment insurance (UI) system in 40 years help those without jobs transition to the workplace. Alongside these reforms, the President is reiterating his call to extend unemployment insurance, preventing 6 million people looking for work from losing their benefits and extending what the independent Congressional Budget Office has determined is the highest “bang for the buck” option to increase economic activity.
- Reemployment Assistance: States will be required to design more rigorous reemployment services for the long-term unemployed and to conduct assessments to review the longest-term claimants of UI to assess their eligibility and help them develop a work-search plan. These reforms are proven to speed up UI beneficiaries’ return to work.
- Work-sharing:The President will expand “work-sharing” to encourage arrangements using UI that keep employees on the job at reduced hours, rather than laying them off.
- State Flexibility for Bold Reforms to Put the Long-Term Unemployed Back To Work:The President is proposing to provide additional funds to allow states to introduce new programs aimed at long-term unemployed workers, including:
- “Bridge to Work” Programs:States will be able to put in place reforms that build off what works in programs like Georgia Works or Opportunity North Carolina, while instituting important fixes and reforms that ensure minimum wage and fair labor protections are being enforced. These approaches permits long-term unemployed workers to continue receiving UI while they take temporary, voluntary work or pursue work-based training. The President’s plan requires compliance with applicable minimum wage and other worker rights laws.
- Wage Insurance: States will be able to use UI to encourage older, long-term unemployed Americans to return to work in new industries or occupations.
- Startup Assistance: States will have flexibility to help long-term unemployed workers create their own jobs by starting their own small businesses
- Other Reemployment Reforms: States will be able to seek waivers from the Secretary of Labor to implement other innovative reforms to connect the long-term unemployed to work opportunities.
- Tax Credits for Hiring the Long-Term Unemployed:The President is proposing a tax credit of up to $4,000 for hiring workers who have been looking for a job for over six months.
- Investing in Low-Income Youth and Adults: The President is proposing a new Pathways Back to Work Fund to provide hundreds of thousands of low-income youth and adults with opportunities to work and to achieve needed training in growth industries. The Initiative will do three things: i) support summer and year-round jobs for youth, building off of successful programs that supported over 370,000 such jobs in 2009 and 2010; ii) support subsidized employment opportunities for low-income individuals who are unemployed, building off the successful TANF Emergency Contingency Fund wage subsidy program that supported 260,000 jobs in 2009 and 2010; and iii) support promising and innovative local work-based job and training initiatives to place low-income adults and youths in jobs quickly.
- Prohibiting Employers from Discriminating Against Unemployed Workers: The President’s plan calls for legislation that would make it unlawful to refuse to hire applicants solely because they are unemployed or to include in a job posting a provision that unemployed persons will not be considered.
More Money in the Pockets of Every American Worker and Family
- Cutting Payroll Taxes in Half for 160 Million Workers Next Year: The President’s plan will expand the payroll tax cut passed last December by cutting workers payroll taxes in half next year. This provision will provide a tax cut of $1,500 to the typical family earning $50,000 a year. As with the payroll tax cut passed in December 2010, the American Jobs Act will specify that Social Security will still receive every dollar it would have gotten otherwise, through a transfer from the General Fund into the Social Security Trust Fund.
- Helping More Americans Refinance Mortgages at Today’s Historically Low Interest Rates: The President has instructed his economic team to work with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, their regulator the FHFA, major lenders and industry leaders to remove the barriers that exist in the current refinancing program (HARP) to help more borrowers benefit from today’s historically low interest rates. This has the potential to not only help these borrowers, but their communities and the American taxpayer, by keeping borrowers in their homes and reducing risk to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Fully Paid for as Part of the President’s Long-Term Deficit Reduction Plan.
- To ensure that the American Jobs Act is fully paid for, the President will call on the Joint Committee to come up with additional deficit reduction necessary to pay for the Act and still meet its deficit target. The President will, in the coming days, release a detailed plan that will show how we can do that while achieving the additional deficit reduction necessary to meet the President’s broader goal of stabilizing our debt as a share of the economy.
WWW.WHITEHOUSE.GOV
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Thats a plan. Now where are Romneys again?
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Thats a plan. Now where are Romneys again?
Why hasn't Obama enacted any of it you kneepadding hack?
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Why hasn't Obama enacted any of it you kneepadding hack?
Ask him.
Now Obama has a plan.
Romney doesnt even have that. Maybe he should campaign less and work more
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Ask him.
Now Obama has a plan.
Romney doesnt even have that. Maybe he should campaign less and work more
LOL!!!!!!
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Romney's plan is secret and, quite frankly, none of your business.
Just vote for him.
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Romney's plan is secret and, quite frankly, none of your business.
Just vote for him.
;D
All he ever says is "I know what it takes. Vote for me."
...but he's either unable or unwilling to state what it will take.
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All he ever says is "I know what it takes. Vote for me."
...but he's either unable or unwilling to state what it will take.
Thats good enough for 33.... And he is the one who calls dem voters sheeps LMFAO
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Thats good enough for 33.... And he is the one who calls dem voters sheeps LMFAO
I told you - I would vote for hitler or stalin over obama
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I told you - I would vote for hitler or stalin over obama
Thats why remotely intelligent people has compassion for you because you are so sad
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Here are MANY words for you Princess. You have Romney's plan laying around?
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THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT
Looks good on paper doesn't it! Nice try.
You sure seem to have changed your tune recently ;) Even your buddy, Peter Schiff doesn't like it.
P.S. You obviously didn't look at the video ~ which is what I was referring to.
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Looks good on paper doesn't it! Nice try.
You sure seem to have changed your tune recently ;) Even your buddy, Peter Schiff doesn't like it.
P.S. You obviously didn't look at the video ~ which is what I was referring to.
He posted a plan.
Where is Romneys plan?
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He posted a plan.
Where is Romneys plan?
Is your hand too tired to search?
http://www.mittromney.com/jobs
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Is your hand too tired to search?
http://www.mittromney.com/jobs
Great plan
Reduce the spending by increasing it and cutting taxes as well
Math isnt your strong point is it?
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Looks good on paper doesn't it! Nice try.
You sure seem to have changed your tune recently ;) Even your buddy, Peter Schiff doesn't like it.
P.S. You obviously didn't look at the video ~ which is what I was referring to.
Hey Princess,
1) So, first Obama supposedly did not have a plan...now that you were corrected, it is problematic because it "looks good on paper?" Interesting.
2) Please show me how my tune has changed recently.
3) Not only did I watch the video, but I will break it down for you.
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Obama began by discussing the 5 symptoms of "Romnesia"
1. Romney says he is for equal pay for equal work, but he refuses to sign a bill that supports it.
Here was Obama's proposal....MANY words:
Calendar No. 410
112th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. 3220
To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies to victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
May 22, 2012
Ms. MIKULSKI (for herself, Mr. AKAKA, Mr. BLUMENTHAL, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Mr. CARDIN, Mr. CASEY, Mr. DURBIN, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mrs. HAGAN, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. LEVIN, Mrs. MCCASKILL, Mr. MERKLEY, Mrs. MURRAY, Mr. REED, Mr. REID, Mr. SANDERS, Mrs. SHAHEEN, Mr. UDALL of New Mexico, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Mr. KERRY, Ms. LANDRIEU, Mr. BENNET, Ms. KLOBUCHAR, Mr. FRANKEN, Mr. COONS, Mr. LAUTENBERG, Ms. CANTWELL, and Mr. INOUYE) introduced the following bill; which was read the first time
May 23, 2012
Read the second time and placed on the calendar
A BILL
To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies to victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Paycheck Fairness Act’.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
Congress finds the following:
(1) Women have entered the workforce in record numbers over the past 50 years.
(2) Despite the enactment of the Equal Pay Act of 1963, many women continue to earn significantly lower pay than men for equal work. These pay disparities exist in both the private and governmental sectors. In many instances, the pay disparities can only be due to continued intentional discrimination or the lingering effects of past discrimination.
(3) The existence of such pay disparities--
(A) depresses the wages of working families who rely on the wages of all members of the family to make ends meet;
(B) undermines women’s retirement security, which is often based on earnings while in the workforce;
(C) prevents the optimum utilization of available labor resources;
(D) has been spread and perpetuated, through commerce and the channels and instrumentalities of commerce, among the workers of the several States;
(E) burdens commerce and the free flow of goods in commerce;
(F) constitutes an unfair method of competition in commerce;
(G) leads to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of goods in commerce;
(H) interferes with the orderly and fair marketing of goods in commerce; and
(I) in many instances, may deprive workers of equal protection on the basis of sex in violation of the 5th and 14th Amendments.
(4)(A) Artificial barriers to the elimination of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex continue to exist decades after the enactment of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 201 et seq.) and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000a et seq.).
(B) These barriers have resulted, in significant part, because the Equal Pay Act of 1963 has not worked as Congress originally intended. Improvements and modifications to the provisions added by the Act are necessary to ensure that the provisions provide effective protection to those subject to pay discrimination on the basis of their sex.
(C) Elimination of such barriers would have positive effects, including--
(i) providing a solution to problems in the economy created by unfair pay disparities;
(ii) substantially reducing the number of working women earning unfairly low wages, thereby reducing the dependence on public assistance;
(iii) promoting stable families by enabling all family members to earn a fair rate of pay;
(iv) remedying the effects of past discrimination on the basis of sex and ensuring that in the future workers are afforded equal protection on the basis of sex; and
(v) ensuring equal protection pursuant to Congress’s power to enforce the 5th and 14th Amendments.
(5) The Department of Labor and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission have important and unique responsibilities to help ensure that women receive equal pay for equal work.
(6) The Department of Labor is responsible for--
(A) collecting and making publicly available information about women’s pay;
(B) ensuring that companies receiving Federal contracts comply with anti-discrimination affirmative action requirements of Executive Order 11246 (relating to equal employment opportunity);
(C) disseminating information about women’s rights in the workplace;
(D) helping women who have been victims of pay discrimination obtain a remedy; and
(E) being proactive in investigating and prosecuting equal pay violations, especially systemic violations, and in enforcing all of its mandates.
(7) The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is the primary enforcement agency for claims made under the provisions added by the Equal Pay Act of 1963, and issues regulations and guidance on appropriate interpretations of the law.
(8 ) With a stronger commitment by the Department of Labor and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to their responsibilities, increased information about the provisions added by the Equal Pay Act of 1963, wage data, and more effective remedies, women will be better able to recognize and enforce their rights.
(9) Certain employers have already made great strides in eradicating unfair pay disparities in the workplace and their achievements should be recognized.
SEC. 3. ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT OF EQUAL PAY REQUIREMENTS.
(a) Bona Fide Factor Defense and Modification of Same Establishment Requirement- Section 6(d)(1) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 206(d)(1)) is amended--
(1) by striking ‘No employer having’ and inserting ‘(A) No employer having’;
(2) by striking ‘any other factor other than sex’ and inserting ‘a bona fide factor other than sex, such as education, training, or experience’; and
(3) by inserting at the end the following:
‘(B) The bona fide factor defense described in subparagraph (A)(iv) shall apply only if the employer demonstrates that such factor (i) is not based upon or derived from a sex-based differential in compensation; (ii) is job-related with respect to the position in question; and (iii) is consistent with business necessity. Such defense shall not apply where the employee demonstrates that an alternative employment practice exists that would serve the same business purpose without producing such differential and that the employer has refused to adopt such alternative practice.
‘(C) For purposes of subparagraph (A), employees shall be deemed to work in the same establishment if the employees work for the same employer at workplaces located in the same county or similar political subdivision of a State. The preceding sentence shall not be construed as limiting broader applications of the term ‘establishment’ consistent with rules prescribed or guidance issued by the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission.’.
(b) Nonretaliation Provision- Section 15 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 215) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)(3), by striking ‘employee has filed’ and all that follows through ‘committee;’ and inserting ‘employee--
‘(A) has made a charge or filed any complaint or instituted or caused to be instituted any investigation, proceeding, hearing, or action under or related to this Act, including an investigation conducted by the employer, or has testified or is planning to testify or has assisted or participated in any manner in any such investigation, proceeding, hearing, or action, or has served or is planning to serve on an industry committee; or
‘(B) has inquired about, discussed, or disclosed the wages of the employee or another employee;’; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
‘(c) Subsection (a)(3)(B) shall not apply to instances in which an employee who has access to the wage information of other employees as a part of such employee’s essential job functions discloses the wages of such other employees to an individual who does not otherwise have access to such information, unless such disclosure is in response to a charge or complaint or in furtherance of an investigation, proceeding, hearing, or action under section 6(d), including an investigation conducted by the employer. Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the rights of an employee provided under any other provision of law.’.
(c) Enhanced Penalties- Section 16(b) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 216(b)) is amended--
(1) by inserting after the first sentence the following: ‘Any employer who violates section 6(d) shall additionally be liable for such compensatory damages, or, where the employee demonstrates that the employer acted with malice or reckless indifference, punitive damages as may be appropriate, except that the United States shall not be liable for punitive damages.’;
(2) in the sentence beginning ‘An action to’, by striking ‘either of the preceding sentences’ and inserting ‘any of the preceding sentences of this subsection’;
(3) in the sentence beginning ‘No employees shall’, by striking ‘No employees’ and inserting ‘Except with respect to class actions brought to enforce section 6(d), no employee’;
(4) by inserting after the sentence referred to in paragraph (3), the following: ‘Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal law, any action brought to enforce section 6(d) may be maintained as a class action as provided by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.’; and
(5) in the sentence beginning ‘The court in’--
(A) by striking ‘in such action’ and inserting ‘in any action brought to recover the liability prescribed in any of the preceding sentences of this subsection’; and
(B) by inserting before the period the following: ‘, including expert fees’.
(d) Action by Secretary- Section 16(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 216(c)) is amended--
(1) in the first sentence--
(A) by inserting ‘or, in the case of a violation of section 6(d), additional compensatory or punitive damages, as described in subsection (b),’ before ‘and the agreement’; and
(B) by inserting before the period the following: ‘, or such compensatory or punitive damages, as appropriate’;
(2) in the second sentence, by inserting before the period the following: ‘and, in the case of a violation of section 6(d), additional compensatory or punitive damages, as described in subsection (b)’;
(3) in the third sentence, by striking ‘the first sentence’ and inserting ‘the first or second sentence’; and
(4) in the last sentence--
(A) by striking ‘commenced in the case’ and inserting ‘commenced--
‘(1) in the case’;
(B) by striking the period and inserting ‘; or’; and
(C) by adding at the end the following:
‘(2) in the case of a class action brought to enforce section 6(d), on the date on which the individual becomes a party plaintiff to the class action.’.
SEC. 4. TRAINING.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs, subject to the availability of funds appropriated under section 10, shall provide training to Commission employees and affected individuals and entities on matters involving discrimination in the payment of wages.
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Obama's NO word plan...continued...
SEC. 5. NEGOTIATION SKILLS TRAINING FOR GIRLS AND WOMEN.
(a) Program Authorized-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Labor, after consultation with the Secretary of Education, is authorized to establish and carry out a grant program.
(2) GRANTS- In carrying out the program, the Secretary of Labor may make grants on a competitive basis to eligible entities, to carry out negotiation skills training programs for girls and women.
(3) ELIGIBLE ENTITIES- To be eligible to receive a grant under this subsection, an entity shall be a public agency, such as a State, a local government in a metropolitan statistical area (as defined by the Office of Management and Budget), a State educational agency, or a local educational agency, a private nonprofit organization, or a community-based organization.
(4) APPLICATION- To be eligible to receive a grant under this subsection, an entity shall submit an application to the Secretary of Labor at such time, in such manner, and containing such information as the Secretary of Labor may require.
(5) USE OF FUNDS- An entity that receives a grant under this subsection shall use the funds made available through the grant to carry out an effective negotiation skills training program that empowers girls and women. The training provided through the program shall help girls and women strengthen their negotiation skills to allow the girls and women to obtain higher salaries and rates of compensation that are equal to those paid to similarly situated male employees.
(b) Incorporating Training Into Existing Programs- The Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Education shall issue regulations or policy guidance that provides for integrating the negotiation skills training, to the extent practicable, into programs authorized under--
(1) in the case of the Secretary of Education, the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 6301 et seq.), the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act of 2006 (20 U.S.C. 2301 et seq.), the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001 et seq.), and other programs carried out by the Department of Education that the Secretary of Education determines to be appropriate; and
(2) in the case of the Secretary of Labor, the Workforce Investment Act of 1998 (29 U.S.C. 2801 et seq.), and other programs carried out by the Department of Labor that the Secretary of Labor determines to be appropriate.
(c) Report- Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, and annually thereafter, the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Education shall prepare and submit to Congress a report describing the activities conducted under this section and evaluating the effectiveness of such activities in achieving the purposes of this Act.
SEC. 6. RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND OUTREACH.
The Secretary of Labor shall conduct studies and provide information to employers, labor organizations, and the general public concerning the means available to eliminate pay disparities between men and women, including--
(1) conducting and promoting research to develop the means to correct expeditiously the conditions leading to the pay disparities;
(2) publishing and otherwise making available to employers, labor organizations, professional associations, educational institutions, the media, and the general public the findings resulting from studies and other materials, relating to eliminating the pay disparities;
(3) sponsoring and assisting State and community informational and educational programs;
(4) providing information to employers, labor organizations, professional associations, and other interested persons on the means of eliminating the pay disparities;
(5) recognizing and promoting the achievements of employers, labor organizations, and professional associations that have worked to eliminate the pay disparities; and
(6) convening a national summit to discuss, and consider approaches for rectifying, the pay disparities.
SEC. 7. ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NATIONAL AWARD FOR PAY EQUITY IN THE WORKPLACE.
(a) In General- There is established the Secretary of Labor’s National Award for Pay Equity in the Workplace, which shall be awarded, as appropriate, to encourage proactive efforts to comply with section 6(d) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 206(d)).
(b) Criteria for Qualification- The Secretary of Labor shall set criteria for receipt of the award, including a requirement that an employer has made substantial effort to eliminate pay disparities between men and women, and deserves special recognition as a consequence of such effort. The Secretary shall establish procedures for the application for and presentation of the award.
(c) Employer- In this section, the term ‘employer’ includes--
(1)(A) a corporation, including a nonprofit corporation;
(B) a partnership;
(C) a professional association;
(D) a labor organization; and
(E) a business entity similar to an entity described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (D);
(2) an entity carrying out an education referral program, a training program, such as an apprenticeship or management training program, or a similar program; and
(3) an entity carrying out a joint program, formed by a combination of any entities described in paragraph (1) or (2).
SEC. 8. COLLECTION OF PAY INFORMATION BY THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION.
Section 709 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000e-8) is amended by adding at the end the following:
‘(f)(1) Not later than 18 months after the date of enactment of this subsection, the Commission shall--
‘(A) complete a survey of the data that is currently available to the Federal Government relating to employee pay information for use in the enforcement of Federal laws prohibiting pay discrimination and, in consultation with other relevant Federal agencies, identify additional data collections that will enhance the enforcement of such laws; and
‘(B) based on the results of the survey and consultations under subparagraph (A), issue regulations to provide for the collection of pay information data from employers as described by the sex, race, and national origin of employees.
‘(2) In implementing paragraph (1), the Commission shall have as its primary consideration the most effective and efficient means for enhancing the enforcement of Federal laws prohibiting pay discrimination. For this purpose, the Commission shall consider factors including the imposition of burdens on employers, the frequency of required data collection reports (including which employers should be required to prepare reports), appropriate protections for maintaining data confidentiality, and the most effective format for the data collection reports.’.
SEC. 9. REINSTATEMENT OF PAY EQUITY PROGRAMS AND PAY EQUITY DATA COLLECTION.
(a) Bureau of Labor Statistics Data Collection- The Commissioner of Labor Statistics shall continue to collect data on women workers in the Current Employment Statistics survey.
(b) Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs Initiatives- The Director of the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs shall ensure that employees of the Office--
(1)(A) shall use the full range of investigatory tools at the Office’s disposal, including pay grade methodology;
(B) in considering evidence of possible compensation discrimination--
(i) shall not limit its consideration to a small number of types of evidence; and
(ii) shall not limit its evaluation of the evidence to a small number of methods of evaluating the evidence; and
(C) shall not require a multiple regression analysis or anecdotal evidence for a compensation discrimination case;
(2) for purposes of its investigative, compliance, and enforcement activities, shall define ‘similarly situated employees’ in a way that is consistent with and not more stringent than the definition provided in item 1 of subsection A of section 10-III of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Compliance Manual (2000), and shall consider only factors that the Office’s investigation reveals were used in making compensation decisions; and
(3) shall reinstate the Equal Opportunity Survey, as required by section 60-2.18 of title 41, Code of Federal Regulations (as in effect on September 7, 2006), designating not less than half of all nonconstruction contractor establishments each year to prepare and file such survey, and shall review and utilize the responses to such survey to identify contractor establishments for further evaluation and for other enforcement purposes as appropriate.
(c) Department of Labor Distribution of Wage Discrimination Information- The Secretary of Labor shall make readily available (in print, on the Department of Labor website, and through any other forum that the Department may use to distribute compensation discrimination information), accurate information on compensation discrimination, including statistics, explanations of employee rights, historical analyses of such discrimination, instructions for employers on compliance, and any other information that will assist the public in understanding and addressing such discrimination.
SEC. 10. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.
(a) Authorization of Appropriations- There is authorized to be appropriated $15,000,000 to carry out this Act.
(b) Prohibition on Earmarks- None of the funds appropriated pursuant to subsection (a) for purposes of the grant program in section 5 of this Act may be used for a congressional earmark as defined in clause 9(e) of rule XXI of the Rules of the House of Representatives.
SEC. 11. SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE.
(a) Effective Date- This Act and the amendments made by this Act shall take effect on the date that is 6 months after the date of enactment of this Act.
(b) Technical Assistance Materials- The Secretary of Labor and the Commissioner of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission shall jointly develop technical assistance material to assist small businesses in complying with the requirements of this Act and the amendments made by this Act.
(c) Small Businesses- A small business shall be exempt from the provisions of this Act to the same extent that such business is exempt from the requirements of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 pursuant to clauses (i) and (ii) of section 3(s)(1)(A) of such Act (29 U.S.C. 203(s)(1)(A)).
SEC. 12. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.
Nothing in this Act, or in any amendment made by this Act, shall affect the obligation of employers and employees to fully comply with all applicable immigration laws, including any penalties, fines, or other sanctions.
Calendar No. 410
112th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. 3220
A BILL
To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies to victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.
May 23, 2012
Read the second time and placed on the calendar
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s3220/text
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Please share Romney's plan Princess.
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Hey Slyy - obama cant get his plan passed so what good is it? The Demos are not going to win the house so who cares what oTHUG says?
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Obama's 2nd point regarding "Romnesia" in the video I did not watch:
2. Romney says women should have access to contraceptive care, but supports legislation allowing employers to deny contraceptive care.
Obama's plan = Obamacare (I won't copy and paste such a large document, but there are MANY words in Obama's plan with regard to this issue).
Where does Romney stand on this issue?
Mitt supports Blunt Amendment
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"Romnesia" sets in:
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Obama's 3rd point regarding "Romnesia" in the video I did not watch:
3. Romney respects a woman's right to choose, then states that he would deny a woman ALL RIGHTS to have an abortion.
Obama is pro-choice, as you are aware.
Pro-choice Romney (listen to his reasoning...):
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Then, Romney said he would be "delighted" to sign a bill that ended ALL abortion:
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Now, Romeny is Pro-life...ish, allowing exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother (start at 23sec):
Romnesia???
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LOL - and what is this nation going hrough now - OBAMAGEDDON!!!!!
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Obama's 4th point regarding "Romnesia" in the video I did not watch:
4. Romney stated he was going to cut taxes for the top 1% and in the first debate...stated he has no idea where that came from. I should note here, I posted OBAMA's plan in my first post (you know...the one you responded to...saying I did not watch the video). There it states the explicit tax cuts Obama proposes.
Romney stated he will "cut taxes on everybody in the country by 20%, including the top 1%"
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Romney stated he "will not reduce the taxes paid by high income Americans"
Is this Romnesia? ???
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Obama's 5th point and final point regarding "Romnesia" in the video I did not watch:
5. Romney stated he was the "champion of the coal industry," but as governor...Romney stood in front of a coal plant and stated that this plant will kill you.
Here are Obama's MANY words on not only coal, but energy overall (so MANY words, that his proposal would not fit in 4 separate messages).
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/blueprint_secure_energy_future.pdf
Here is Romney's view on coal and coal plants:
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Romney as the "champion of coal"
Is Romney coming down with a case of...."Romnesia"?
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Hey Slyy - obama cant get his plan passed so what good is it? The Demos are not going to win the house so who cares what oTHUG says?
Whether his plans will get passed...is to be continued 333. My post was based on Princess' statement:
Obama only attacks Romney but doesn’t lay out any of his plans. Not ONE word.
Her response was not only uninformed, it was completely false.
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I love this thread to much truth for the neocons though
Much easier to live on a ie
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Obama seems to have already forgotten that his own Libyan ambassador was sodomized and murdered. In fact, he forgot within 24 hours when he left to campaign and party in Vegas.
Talk about amnesia......
He also forgot that he was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%. He forgot not to raise taxes on us. He forgot to make all his policies available on C-Span. At times, he forgets that HE, not George Bush, is president.
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He also forgot that he was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%. He forgot not to raise taxes on us. He forgot to make all his policies available on C-Span. At times, he forgets that HE, not George Bush, is president.
Go read Harry Potter Mcway you are looking for a wizard
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Go read Harry Potter Mcway you are looking for a wizard
A wizard? Is that what you use to change from Whork to Blacken and back?
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Hey Princess,
1) So, first Obama supposedly did not have a plan...now that you were corrected, it is problematic because it "looks good on paper?" Interesting.
Whether his plans will get passed...is to be continued 333. My post was based on Princess' statement:
Her response was not only uninformed, it was completely false.
As I said, I was specifically referring to the posted video. It sounded more like a stand-up routine at a comedy club.
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As I said, I was specifically referring to the posted video. It sounded more like a stand-up routine at a comedy club.
Not even a $50 a night comic would deliver such cheesy bs as obama did
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Obama's 5th point and final point regarding "Romnesia" in the video I did not watch:
5. Romney stated he was the "champion of the coal industry," but as governor...Romney stood in front of a coal plant and stated that this plant will kill you.
Here is Romney's view on coal and coal plants:
This (old) video refers to SPECIFIC coal plants in MA.
The Salem Harbor Power Station
Back on Feb. 5, 2003, Romney made several statements during a showdown over the future of the controversial, coal-burning Salem Harbor Power Station, in the Boston area.
A couple of years earlier, Massachusetts had passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions of nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide and mercury, to be phased in over several years. The mercury standard would not be finalized until 2004. As governor, Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.
Massachusetts singled out its most egregious polluters as the "Filthy Five" plants, including Salem Harbor. Public health and environmental scientists at Harvard studied the emissions from two of the plants in 2000 and concluded that Salem Harbor was responsible for 53 deaths, 570 emergency room visits, 14,400 asthma attacks and 99,000 incidents of upper respiratory symptoms -- all per year.
Local residents and others who wanted to keep the Salem Harbor plant open (for jobs and tax revenues) disputed those figures, saying they resulted from unproven modeling. It turned out that the Harvard scientists had revised their figures in 2002, putting premature deaths from Salem Harbor’s pollution at 30 per year and reducing the number of emergency room visits to 400 and the asthma attacks at 2,000, according to the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald.
But the scientists stood by the broader conclusion -- that emissions from dirty power plants can be deadly. The Harvard methodology has now been widely replicated and is respected by health scientists, according to several environmental authorities we spoke with. Romney appeared to accept their findings, too.
The spat with Salem Harbor turned into a testy exchange after Salem Harbor’s then-owner, Pacific Gas and Electric, sought an extension until 2006 to comply with Massachusetts’ emissions rules -- and plant supporters showed up to to demand that the governor back off. Romney was adamant that the company comply by 2004 and appeared at a press conference near the plant to emphasize the point.
His statements that day show how he felt, and they’re documented in this video: "I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant -- that plant kills people."
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This (old) video refers to SPECIFIC coal plants in MA.
The Salem Harbor Power Station
Back on Feb. 5, 2003, Romney made several statements during a showdown over the future of the controversial, coal-burning Salem Harbor Power Station, in the Boston area.
A couple of years earlier, Massachusetts had passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions of nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide and mercury, to be phased in over several years. The mercury standard would not be finalized until 2004. As governor, Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.
Excellent article, thanks for sharing Princess.
So, during the 2nd debate, Romney stated:
"I was in coal country. People grabbed my arms and said, 'Please save my job.' The head of the EPA said, 'You can't build a coal plant. You'll virtually -- it's virtually impossible given our regulations.'"
Your article states:
A couple of years earlier, Massachusetts had passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions of nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide and mercury, to be phased in over several years. The mercury standard would not be finalized until 2004. As governor, Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.
Then he shut down SPECIFIC coal plants in Massachusetts.
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Does Romney have "Romnesia" Princess? He is all about regulations according to the very article you shared, he even personally (and with great pride) shut plants down due to violations of those regulations.
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Excellent article, thanks for sharing Princess.
So, during the 2nd debate, Romney stated:
"I was in coal country. People grabbed my arms and said, 'Please save my job.' The head of the EPA said, 'You can't build a coal plant. You'll virtually -- it's virtually impossible given our regulations.'"
Your article states:
Then he shut down SPECIFIC coal plants in Massachusetts.
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Does Romney have "Romnesia" Princess? He is all about regulations according to the very article you shared, he even personally (and with great pride) shut plants down due to violations of those regulations.
No, I don't think he does. Complete misrepresentation by Obama. Those regulations were put in place a couple of years prior to 2003. As the 2003 video demonstrates, the company had been given notice to clean up certain aspects (emissions) of the plant by 2004. It was only when they ignored that that Romney said what he did in front of it so they were shut down. He is in favor of clean and sustainable energy. What is wrong with that?
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Go read Harry Potter Mcway you are looking for a wizard
don't be hard on mcway he can only parrot what hannidy tells him :D :D :D
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No, I don't think he does. Complete misrepresentation by Obama. Those regulations were put in place a couple of years prior to 2003. As the 2003 video demonstrates, the company had been given notice to clean up certain aspects (emissions) of the plant by 2004. It was only when they ignored that that Romney said what he did in front of it so they were shut down. He is in favor of clean and sustainable energy. What is wrong with that?
It's wonderful! Obama agrees as he stated in the second debate, "With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter."
However, Obama did NOT misrepresent the fifth assertion in his speech, as proven by your article:
A couple of years earlier, Massachusetts had passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions...Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.
As such, Romney was clearly pro-coal plant regulations. What happened when the regulations Romney supported were not followed? Not only did Romney close the plant down with pride, he also stated, "that plant kills."
Proof Romney stated the "plant kills"
His statements that day show how he felt, and they’re documented in this video: "I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant -- that plant kills people."
Proof that Romney "took great pride in shutting it down"
The spat with Salem Harbor turned into a testy exchange after Salem Harbor’s then-owner, Pacific Gas and Electric, sought an extension until 2006 to comply with Massachusetts’ emissions rules -- and plant supporters showed up to to demand that the governor back off. Romney was adamant that the company comply by 2004 and appeared at a press conference near the plant to emphasize the point.
To conclude, in the second debate, Obama PROPERLY stated:
"Governor, when you were governor of Massachusetts, you stood in front of a coal plant and pointed at it and said, 'This plant kills,' and took great pride in shutting it down. And now suddenly you're a big champion of coal."
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With regard to Romney's "Romnesia" that Obama spoke of, it set in again during the second debate when Romney stated:
"I was in coal country. People grabbed my arms and said, 'Please save my job.' The head of the EPA said, 'You can't build a coal plant. You'll virtually -- it's virtually impossible given our regulations.'"
As you know, Romney was implying that Obama is killing the coal industry with all these regulations. Why would Romney make such a statement regarding REGULATIONS...when according to your article:
A couple of years earlier, Massachusetts had passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions of nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide and mercury, to be phased in over several years. The mercury standard would not be finalized until 2004. As governor, Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.
Then he shut down SPECIFIC coal plants in Massachusetts.
To conclude, Romney supported the new regulations to reduce power plant emission "as he made clear repeatedly." Romney was adamant that a particular coal plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported; as a result, Romney appeared at a press conference near the coal plant to emphasize his demand that the plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported. Finally, Romney shut the coal plant down due to the plant not abiding by the regulations he repeatedly supported and stated "that plant kills!" Now, Romney is going to condemn Obama for having regulations in place for coal plants??!!
Romnesia???
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don't be hard on mcway he can only parrot what hannidy tells him :D :D :D
Still talking to yourself, ID Crisis Boy......and putting your foot in your mouth, just as you did, claiming that there were no complaints from Democrats about the moderator of the first debate and that I simply got that from Hannity.
Keep it up. It shows shows how utterly stupid you sound, no matter which gimmick you use.
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Still talking to yourself, ID Crisis Boy......and putting your foot in your mouth, just as you did, claiming that there were no complaints from Democrats about the moderator of the first debate and that I simply got that from Hannity.
Keep it up. It shows shows how utterly stupid you sound, no matter which gimmick you use.
It's not that no one complained ever, it's just that relatively, the amount of complaining wasn't even close.
Did you see what Bill Maher said about Obama after the first debate? You think any of the windbags on the right would ever approach that level of honesty? We both know they wouldn't.
It's quite clear that, if the right doesn't like some information, it simply becomes a conspiracy. We've been seeing it over and over the past few weeks, and that's an undeniable fact.
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It's not that no one complained ever, it's just that relatively, the amount of complaining wasn't even close.
Did you see what Bill Maher said about Obama after the first debate? You think any of the windbags on the right would ever approach that level of honesty? We both know they wouldn't.
It's quite clear that, if the right doesn't like some information, it simply becomes a conspiracy. We've been seeing it over and over the past few weeks, and that's an undeniable fact.
This case closed
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It's wonderful! Obama agrees as he stated in the second debate, "With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter."
Producing & burning for energy are two different things!
Would you want to live within 30 miles of one of the "filthy five"?
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Admit it! Obama is spewing BS on that issue! You can't possibly agree with everything he says.
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Still talking to yourself, ID Crisis Boy......and putting your foot in your mouth, just as you did, claiming that there were no complaints from Democrats about the moderator of the first debate and that I simply got that from Hannity.
Keep it up. It shows shows how utterly stupid you sound, no matter which gimmick you use.
why don't you post where i said that,maybe the talking snake told you :D :D :D :D :D about time for hannity to come on and inform you of your world views :D :D :D :D :D :D :D priceless :D :D
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Producing & burning for energy are two different things!
Would you want to live within 30 miles of one of the "filthy five"?
Princess,
You have spent years on getbig developing credibility. Don't throw it all away by speaking on matters that you have zero knowledge.
Now, I will openly bait you here: ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT OBAMA IS AGAINST BURNING CLEAN ENERGY?
To help you in this discussion, the answer is a CLEAR "no." Based on that, Romney came to the second debate and told America that Obama's regulations are burying the coal industry (as evidenced by the debate itself and reiterated numerous times by my quotes above).
However, while governor, Romney supported new regulations to reduce power plant emission "as he made clear repeatedly." Romney was adamant that a particular coal plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported; as a result, Romney appeared at a press conference near the coal plant to emphasize his demand that the plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported. Finally, Romney shut the coal plant down due to the plant not abiding by the regulations he repeatedly supported and stated "that plant kills!" Now, Romney is going to condemn Obama for having regulations in place for coal plants??!!
Romnesia???
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Admit it! Obama is spewing BS on that issue! You can't possibly agree with everything he says.
Again Princess, you have spent way too long on getbig building credibility...to make such an illogical rebuttal.
I used 565 words, backed with credible citations to definitively dismantle your argument that Obama completely misrepresented Romney's "Romnesia" regarding the coal industry. And...your rebuttal is, "Admit it! Obama is spewing BS on that issue!"? Really?
You are better than that Princess.
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Princess,
You have spent years on getbig developing credibility. Don't throw it all away by speaking on matters that you have zero knowledge.
Now, I will openly bait you here: ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT OBAMA IS AGAINST BURNING CLEAN ENERGY?
To help you in this discussion, the answer is a CLEAR "no." Based on that, Romney came to the second debate and told America that Obama's regulations are burying the coal industry (as evidenced by the debate itself and reiterated numerous times by my quotes above).
However, while governor, Romney supported new regulations to reduce power plant emission "as he made clear repeatedly." Romney was adamant that a particular coal plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported; as a result, Romney appeared at a press conference near the coal plant to emphasize his demand that the plant abide by the regulations he repeatedly supported. Finally, Romney shut the coal plant down due to the plant not abiding by the regulations he repeatedly supported and stated "that plant kills!" Now, Romney is going to condemn Obama for having regulations in place for coal plants??!!
Haven't you heard?
Getbig is dead!
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And no, I am not suggesting Obama is AGAINST burning clean energy. The regulations (with ref to the "filthy five") were put into place long before Obama, yet he continues to use a ~9 year old video (and what it's content meant) against Romney. You didn't answer the question. Would you want to live near one of them (as they were)?
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Again Princess, you have spent way too long on getbig building credibility...to make such an illogical rebuttal.
I used 565 words, backed with credible citations to definitively dismantle your argument that Obama completely misrepresented Romney's "Romnesia" regarding the coal industry. And...your rebuttal is, "Admit it! Obama is spewing BS on that issue!"? Really?
You are better than that Princess.
Yes I am Mr. Galacowitz!
I need a break (and 2 Excedrin) before going to listen to another screaming liberal (Jackson Browne) ;)
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Haven't you heard?
Getbig is dead!
8)
;D
And no, I am not suggesting Obama is AGAINST burning clean energy. The regulations (with ref to the "filthy five") were put into place long before Obama, yet he continues to use a ~9 year old video (and what it's content meant) against Romney.
When did Obama use Romney's own stance and actions as governor regarding coal plants against Romney? AFTER Romney attacked Obama in the second debate by saying:
"But what we don't need is to have the president keeping us from taking advantage of oil, coal and gas. This has not been Mr. Oil, or Mr. Gas, or Mr. Coal."
The one example where Romney acted as a governmental president (governor of MA)...Romney kept coal plants from taking advantage of coal. Romney was NOT Mr. Coal when it was his turn to act as a governmental president. There is no better example for Obama to reference then when Romney was the governor of Massachusetts. That, Princess, is WHY Obama used that example and why it is so fitting.
You didn't answer the question. Would you want to live near one of them (as they were)?
I would not live near the "clean five," let alone the "filthy five." I found Romney's action's regarding the coal plants extremely commendable. What I find inconceivable is how Romney contradicted his meritorious coal plant record (you know...enforcing regulations that he supported and shutting coal plants down) by insulting Obama for his regulations on coal plants.
Romnesia???
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Yes I am Mr. Galacowitz!
You mean, DOCTOR Galacowitz... ;)