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		Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: elvis on November 25, 2005, 05:19:09 PM
		
			
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				hi guys, i have been reading thread after thread to answer my own ? but have had no luck. i have been post cycle about 10 weeks had a great 14 weeks on and took all pct. now the ?.  can i hop on some winni for 5 weeks while i am leaning out, AND not have to go thru the whole gonad shrinking bit, or am i going to need pct all over again (not that i mind) but would like to keep my chemical intake at a minimal  any help would be awsome, i just dont have as much knowledge on winni to take it yet.
			
 
			
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				what consist of your last cycle !
-u always need PCT !
			 
			
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				EQ, sustenon, deca, test e.  and then hcg with nolva and clomid to end.
i guess my ? is more about winni in respect to test, both are anabolic but the does the winni affect the production of natural testosterone. i feel its a bit soon for me to use a product that will supress my production. so i can just wait (but i dont want to)  i miss the feeling!!!!
			 
			
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				some people may disagree with me but i believe that all gear shuts u down (even primo to an extent) so  even alittle pct would help after that, u said u been off for 10wks, get into a nother cycle and add test prop and winny and run it for 6-8wks at 100mg prop eod and 50mg ed (taken pill form or drinking the injectable winny) that would be a great way to lean out and u really want add tren at 75-100mg eod for the duration of cycle but if u do that take some liver aids it can be toxic so use them just to be safe, better safe than sorry! good luck bro.
muscle
			 
			
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 50mg ed (taken pill form or drinking the injectable winny) 
can the winny be injected sub q instead of an IM jab or drinking it?   since winny is water based can a small (29guage) insulin pin be used going sub q?
			 
			
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add tren at 75-100mg eod for the duration of cycle but if u do that take some liver aids it can be toxic so use them just to be safe
Tren is not liver toxic.
It's possibly kidney toxic though.......
DIV
			 
			
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				i would not inject winny sub-q always intramuscular. the only problem is the frewuent jabs and the painful results, since it is water based u can drink it and get the same results, ull be better off trust me. go to a health food store and buy 00 sixe empty gel caps it will hold 1 ml of winny which is the right amount.
muscle
			 
			
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can the winny be injected sub q instead of an IM jab or drinking it?   since winny is water based can a small (29guage) insulin pin be used going sub q?
it would plug up the 29g. would be a pain
			 
			
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Tren is not liver toxic.
It's possibly kidney toxic though.......
DIV
I was gonna say the same thing. If you do Tren, drink an extra GALLON of water a day. So if you drink a gallon and a half now, drink two and a half. You gotta keep pissin' those toxins out.
			 
			
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				yeah thats what i meant, tren is very toxic so like emntioned above driink plenty of water and take ur supps.
muscle