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http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-romney-electoral-college-map-reuters-poll-ipsos-2012-10?utm
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http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-romney-electoral-college-map-reuters-poll-ipsos-2012-10?utm
LOL. So laughable its not even funny. Just look at that chart.
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if romney loses ohio he loses the election,sorry it's that simple ;D
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if romney loses ohio he loses the election,sorry it's that simple ;D
LOL.
Early In Person Voting #s for Bellweather OH County (disaster for Ds)
OH early voting statistics | 10/24/2012 | LS
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:30:22 AM by LS
Just had this reported to me by GOP activist for early voting in first four weeks in Montgomery County.
CONTEXT: Montgomery is D heavy, usually goes D by 4000-5000 votes. In general, OH went HEAVY for Obama in early voting last year. McCain actually won the "election day" vote, but lost in early voting.
Here we go:
Week 1: (2008) 3427 (2012) 680
Week 2: (2008) 1918 (2012) 275
Week 3: (2008) 1508 (2012) 469
Week 4: (2008) 3794 (2012) 800
TOTALS: (2008) 10,467 (2012) 2224
Not only are the early votes down almost 80% from 08, but a higher number of Rs are voting early (though not huge). Still, in 08 early voting was close to 95% D, so even these numbers don't represent all D voters.
If other counties are anywhere close to this, it's over.
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If Romney takes PA...he can lose OH. But he's not going to lose OH.....
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If Romney takes PA...he can lose OH. But he's not going to lose OH.....
That's been discussed on both RCP and Fox News. If Romney gets Colorado/Wisconsin and New Hampshire, he can win without Ohio.
With that said, the latest Rasmussen poll has it TIED in Ohio.
Dr. Larry Sabato, from the University of Virginia, said that Ohioans shouldn't get a big head and broke down how both men can with without the Buckeye state.
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That's been discussed on both RCP and Fox News. If Romney gets Colorado/Wisconsin and New Hampshire, he can win without Ohio.
With that said, the latest Rasmussen poll has it TIED in Ohio.
Dr. Larry Sabato, from the University of Virginia, said that Ohioans shouldn't get a big head and broke down how both men can with without the Buckeye state.
what's the rcp average for ohio ??? you like them alot
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what's the rcp average for ohio ??? you like them alot
I mentioned that yesterday. Obama up by less than two (1.7 to be exact).
An incumbent with that small of a lead, less than two weeks out, spells MAJOR TROUBLE.
Plus, as has been spelled out (multiple times in multiple threads), Romney can with WITHOUT OHIO; for that matter, so can Obama.
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sure romney can but the roads alot harder and when was the last time a repub has done it
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sure romney can but the roads alot harder and when was the last time a repub has done it
Not as hard as you think. New Hampshire and Wisconsin are both within striking range for Romney has Obama's lead in both states has PLUNGED in last three weeks.
Those are states Obama could have and should have locked up months ago.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-romney-electoral-college-map-reuters-poll-ipsos-2012-10?utm
romney is going to win FL, VA, and CO moron
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mcway, you said obama was ahead on the rcp average yesterday,can you post it, i must have missed it
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mcway, you said obama was ahead on the rcp average yesterday,can you post it, i must have missed it
It was in my discussion on another thread with Vince. And it was with regards to specific states (I believe Ohio was one of them).
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romney is going to win FL, VA, and CO moron
Florida staying blue? It's not looking that way on RCP. Romney's up there by a bit less than two. Of the five polls that make up the current RCP average there, Obama leads in just one...by one.
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It was in my discussion on another thread with Vince. And it was with regards to specific states (I believe Ohio was one of them).
The OH lead is down to 1.7
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so it's gone from i mentioned that yestertday to i believe i did :-\ :-\ ::) :o :D :D uumumumumumummmmm ok
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Florida staying blue? It's not looking that way on RCP. Romney's up there by a bit less than two. Of the five polls that make up the current RCP average there, Obama leads in just one...by one.
Florida will be red.
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The OH lead is down to 1.7
They are just removing old statistics.....there's not been any change overall. Ohio is going to be longshot for Romney and a must win for him to get to 270 because he's not going to do with with Wisconsin or New Hampshire.
That 3rd debate was his last opportunity to push the polls and he didn't do it....so now he's going to have to run and gun for the last few weeks and spend a lot of money on late ads.
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Florida will be red.
Prob....but there's a ton of Latinos in Florida and AARP is still running attack ads against Romney. He'll need to keep the pressure on there
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They are just removing old statistics.....there's not been any change overall. Ohio is going to be longshot for Romney and a must win for him to get to 270 because he's not going to do with with Wisconsin or New Hampshire.
That 3rd debate was his last opportunity to push the polls and he didn't do it....so now he's going to have to run and gun for the last few weeks and spend a lot of money on late ads.
Obama has not hit 50% in even one poll that has been D+3-8. Do you realize how bad that is?
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They are just removing old statistics.....there's not been any change overall. Ohio is going to be longshot for Romney and a must win for him to get to 270 because he's not going to do with with Wisconsin or New Hampshire.
That 3rd debate was his last opportunity to push the polls and he didn't do it....so now he's going to have to run and gun for the last few weeks and spend a lot of money on late ads.
Ohio is definitely not a longshot, sorry.
Michigan is a longshot, not Ohio.
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They are just removing old statistics.....there's not been any change overall. Ohio is going to be longshot for Romney and a must win for him to get to 270 because he's not going to do with with Wisconsin or New Hampshire.
That 3rd debate was his last opportunity to push the polls and he didn't do it....so now he's going to have to run and gun for the last few weeks and spend a lot of money on late ads.
There has been a change overall. Two polls recently released have the race TIED (Suffolk) and Obama up 1 (Rasmussen).
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Ohio is definitely not a longshot, sorry.
Michigan is a longshot, not Ohio.
Ohio is a longshot...Michigan is out of play, Pennsylvania is out of play, North Carolina is out of play....anything above 2 points is out of play at this point. Early voting has already started and there's less than 3 weeks left.
Romney can win still....but he's going to have to fight very hard...especially since he didn't do well in the final debate. He might need a bayonet.... ;D
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Ohio is a longshot...Michigan is out of play, Pennsylvania is out of play, North Carolina is out of play....anything above 2 points is out of play at this point. Early voting has already started and there's less than 3 weeks left.
Romney can win still....but he's going to have to fight very hard...especially since he didn't do well in the final debate. He might need a bayonet.... ;D
Are you on the same planet?
Rasmussen and Suffolk have it TIED in Ohio (48-48 and 47-47, respectively); that ain't a long shot.
North Carolina? PLEASE!! RCP moved that from "Toss up" to Lean Romney weeks ago (the average is over FIVE POINTS); Rasmussen has done the same. Suffolk polling has pulled out of NC (along with Florida and Virginia), because it feels Romney has that all but locked, barring some strange happening within the next 13 days.
The final debate didn't mean JACK. It was foreign policy, nowhere NEAR the top priority of the American people. Even those in the focus groups and polls, who said Obama won that debate, GAVE ROMNEY THE NOD on the economy.
And, don't even bother with the early voting stuff. The Dems had the edge there two years ago....a lot of good it did them.
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One thing I need to mention....Florida isn't going to be an easy win for Romney because 22% of the population is Latino and 16% is blacks.....even though you have a large elderly population, AARP has unleashed a lot of attacks in the area which could undermine a normally Republican stronghold. McCain lost last go around because he ignored the state.
The majority of these people are not polled at all as they really don't care.....so Romney needs to pound out the cracker vote for everything that its worth because if he loses that state....it won't make a difference ;D
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One thing I need to mention....Florida isn't going to be an easy win for Romney because 22% of the population is Latino and 16% is blacks.....even though you have a large elderly population, AARP has unleashed a lot of attacks in the area which could undermine a normally Republican stronghold. McCain lost last go around because he ignored the state.
The majority of these people are not polled at all as they really don't care.....so Romney needs to pound out the cracker vote for everything that its worth because if he loses that state....it won't make a difference ;D
Dude - your political posts are almost rivaling the absurdity of your claims on airsoft guns
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Vince at 6am this morning.....
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One thing I need to mention....Florida isn't going to be an easy win for Romney because 22% of the population is Latino and 16% is blacks.....even though you have a large elderly population, AARP has unleashed a lot of attacks in the area which could undermine a normally Republican stronghold. McCain lost last go around because he ignored the state.
The majority of these people are not polled at all as they really don't care.....so Romney needs to pound out the cracker vote for everything that its worth because if he loses that state....it won't make a difference ;D
Romney's up in RCP by nearly 2, with the undecideds likely to break for him. Florida's my home; I'm aware of the breakdown. AARP has been launching attacks, because Obama is PLUNGING in that state.
And, if Romney DOES get the bulk of the white vote, Obama will get CRUSHED there, no matter how many blacks or Latinos are in the state (the latter of which, unlike the former, don't lockstep for Democrats).
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Latinos have the same basic values as the GOP. The only obstacle is the immigration situation. For a lot of them is a huge issue. But, many will vote for Romney.
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Are you on the same planet?
Rasmussen and Suffolk have it TIED in Ohio (48-48 and 47-47, respectively); that ain't a long shot.
North Carolina? PLEASE!! RCP moved that from "Toss up" to Lean Romney weeks ago (the average is over FIVE POINTS); Rasmussen has done the same. Suffolk polling has pulled out of NC (along with Florida and Virginia), because it feels Romney has that all but locked, barring some strange happening within the next 13 days.
The final debate didn't mean JACK. It was foreign policy, nowhere NEAR the top priority of the American people. Even those in the focus groups and polls, who said Obama won that debate, GAVE ROMNEY THE NOD on the economy.
As I stated...North Carolina is out of play.
Its a game of inches and Romney is still on the 10 yard line. At this point, I doubt if Romney can make up that type of ground...at the same time, he has to hold Co and Florida as those margins are razor thin. Its a juggling act for Romney.
If it plays out right...Romney can win theorically with 296 electoral votes as Bush did in 2004. But its not looking that way right now
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As I stated...North Carolina is out of play.
Its a game of inches and Romney is still on the 10 yard line. At this point, I doubt if Romney can make up that type of ground...at the same time, he has to hold Co and Florida as those margins are razor thin. Its a juggling act for Romney.
If it plays out right...Romney can win theorically with 296 electoral votes as Bush did in 2004. But its not looking that way right now
By your logic, it's also a juggling act for Obama. The margins are razor thin for him in Ohio and New Hampshire.
Obama is in virtual freefall in the swing states. They've been tilting Romney's way for weeks. If Obama doesn't develop something, beyond a stupid pamphlet with his re-hashed old agenda and boneheaded phrases like "Romnesia", he's going to get stomped on election day.
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Latinos have the same basic values as the GOP. The only obstacle is the immigration situation. For a lot of them is a huge issue. But, many will vote for Romney.
Yes, that's how Bush took Florida and New Mexico last time....problem this time is that "immigration thing". Bush wisely didn't go out there and demand them to "self deport" or try to get rid of them.....not to mention that Bush speaks fluent Spanish very well so he was able to influence the Latino vote.
Romney doesn't have the same advantage.
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Daily Swing State Tracking Poll Swing State Tracking: Romney 50%, Obama 45%
Rasmussen ^ | 10/24 | Rasmussen
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:43:09 AM by tatown
Wednesday, October 24, 2012
The full Swing State tracking update offers Rasmussen Reader subscribers a combined view of the results from 11 key states won by President Obama in 2008 and thought to be competitive in 2012. The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. If you do not already have a Rasmussen Reader account, subscribe now.
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In the 11 swing states, Mitt Romney earns 50% of the vote to Obama’s 46%. Two percent (2%) like another candidate in the race, and another two percent (2%) are undecided.
This is now the fourth time Romney has hit the 50% mark in the combined swing states in the past five days. This survey is conducted on a rolling seven-day basis, and most of the interviews for today’s update were completed before the end of Monday night’s presidential debate. Romney has now held a modest lead for 13 of the last 16 days; Obama was ahead twice, and the candidates ran even once.
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Yes, that's how Bush took Florida and New Mexico last time....problem this time is that "immigration thing". Bush wisely didn't go out there and demand them to "self deport" or try to get rid of them.....not to mention that Bush speaks fluent Spanish very well so he was able to influence the Latino vote.
Romney doesn't have the same advantage.
Immigration? Obama said he'd pass a comprehensive immigration law (whatever that means) WITHIN HIS FIRST YEAR. He didn't do it, even with a supermajority in the Senate and a near-supermajority in the House.
You will recall Univision BEAT OBAMA OVER THE HEAD with that very fact, to which Obama sheepishly tried to blame his failure on the GOP (lying through his teeth, because the GOP could NOT stop him).
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By your logic, it's also a juggling act for Obama. The margins are razor thin for him in Ohio and New Hampshire.
Obama is in virtual freefall in the swing states. They've been tilting Romney's way for weeks. If Obama doesn't develop something, beyond a stupid pamphlet with his re-hashed old agenda and boneheaded phrases like "Romnesia", he's going to get stomped on election day.
There's no free fall and the lines are pretty much shored up. I don't think that Romney nor Obama can do much more at this point as the swing voters have pretty much decided....that's why I don't think Romney can all of a sudden win Ohio if he's not leading already
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Immigration? Obama said he'd pass a comprehensive immigration law (whatever that means) WITHIN HIS FIRST YEAR. He didn't do it, even with a supermajority in the Senate and a near-supermajority in the House.
You will recall Univision BEAT OBAMA OVER THE HEAD with that very fact, to which Obama sheepishly tried to blame his failure on the GOP (lying through his teeth, because the GOP could NOT stop him).
There was still enough Republicans in the Senate to block that immigration law....funny thing is that if Romney gets elected, he'll likely run into the same thing with Obamacare......happens all the time ;D
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There's no free fall and the lines are pretty much shored up. I don't think that Romney nor Obama can do much more at this point as the swing voters have pretty much decided....that's why I don't think Romney can all of a sudden win Ohio if he's not leading already
You're in denial more than an Egyptian. Obama's lead slips by the day. The race in Ohio is effectively TIED, hardly a good position for an incumbent president.
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There was still enough Republicans in the Senate to block that immigration law....funny thing is that if Romney gets elected, he'll likely run into the same thing with Obamacare......happens all the time ;D
No, there weren't 58 de jure Democrats, 2 de facto Democrats (posing as independents)....THAT'S 60....EXACTLY how we got ObamaCare in the first place.
Plus, in case you forgot, the Supreme Court ruled that ObamaCare is a tax; hence, you don't need a supermajority in the Senate to reverse it.
A Romney win, coupled with a net of at least three Senate seats (the House, contrary to Pelosi's delusions ain't flipping this year), means ObamaCare's goose is cooked.
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which candidate has strong FL ground game?
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which candidate has strong FL ground game?
Charlie Crist. :-* :-* :-*
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Charlie Crist. :-* :-* :-*
Scoot brown 2012? Christine ODonnel? crazy carl with a bat? sharron angle? lol your list of goofball picks might be a litttttle longer than mine ;)
heck, you endorsed bloomberg for prez... he'll take your guns AND your 20 oz drinks.