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Title: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
A few weeks ago I hurt myself throwing back db's for incline presses. Foot slipped as I did it and hurt my shoulder, I trianed around it a workout or two before realising it was hurt so I took 2-3 weeks off. I think I am now almost 100% and ready to train again - I will know tomorrow anyway.

To prevent injuring it i am considering doing almost a full body workout 4x week or something similar whereby I train movements as opposed to bodypart splits. They days I squat I will do very little else apart from maybe assistance exercises or silly things like biceps just to keep everything ticking over.

I will also start very low and pick maybe 6-8 exercises and do 2 sets of each everyday that I feel that bodypart/movement has recovered. Has anyone any thoughts on this. I done it before with good success. It also meant that I could train in approximately an hour which also helped and suited me a lot.

I was thinking of focusing on

Bench
Squat
Deadlift
Standing Press
Chins
Rows
Dips, CG Bench or Inclines
Good Mornings.

Obviously I will start very light and build it up, but any thoughts on this.

On a routine where I benched 5x week my 5RM went to a 8RM in approx 6 weeks.

Saying this I could go down to gym tomorrow and not feel 100%.

I also do not wish to lose size so if this happens I will up food intake.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: maxkane69 on October 28, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
A few weeks ago I hurt myself throwing back db's for incline presses. Foot slipped as I did it and hurt my shoulder, I trianed around it a workout or two before realising it was hurt so I took 2-3 weeks off. I think I am now almost 100% and ready to train again - I will know tomorrow anyway.

To prevent injuring it i am considering doing almost a full body workout 4x week or something similar whereby I train movements as opposed to bodypart splits. They days I squat I will do very little else apart from maybe assistance exercises or silly things like biceps just to keep everything ticking over.

I will also start very low and pick maybe 6-8 exercises and do 2 sets of each everyday that I feel that bodypart/movement has recovered. Has anyone any thoughts on this. I done it before with good success. It also meant that I could train in approximately an hour which also helped and suited me a lot.

I was thinking of focusing on

Bench
Squat
Deadlift
Standing Press
Chins
Rows
Dips, CG Bench or Inclines
Good Mornings.

Obviously I will start very light and build it up, but any thoughts on this.

On a routine where I benched 5x week my 5RM went to a 8RM in approx 6 weeks.

Saying this I could go down to gym tomorrow and not feel 100%.

I also do not wish to lose size so if this happens I will up food intake.

This is a great routine only for a young beginners !
Anyone who has a little bit of experience will overtrain after only a week following this routine and get injured in the process !!!

Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2012, 09:50:49 AM
I intend to wave cycle my weights and also back cycle my weights after a predetermined time.

E.g

Day
1 - 115 2x5
2 - 117.5 2x5
3 - 120 2x5
4 - 117.5 2x5
5 - 120 2x5
6 - 122.5 2.5
etc...

Then say when I get to 130kg drop back to 120 and continue up to 135 etc

6 bench workouts may be 6 days training at the start but may be over 3 weeks later on in the cycle.

Similar approach will be applied to other exercises (apart from squat and deadlift) however initially I may stagger the difficulty so that in 6 week all exercises are not tough.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: BB on October 28, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
I'd go 4x a week to get the volume in.

I'd also lower the amount of exercises, but bump up the number of sets, something like -

Alternating weekly Squats or Deadlifts 3-4 sets of five - 6.

Alternate weekly incline or flat bench - 3 x 5, 1 x 10 - 12, the high rep back off set to help hold size.

Wide grip chins - 3 x 6 - 8, 1 high rep set.

Press out of rack - 3 x 5 or 6.

Straight Barbell curls 2-3 x 6-10

I'd probably throw in a couple of sets of pullovers or similar here too.

Till I knew it was healed, I'd play every thing by feel, especially the pressing movements.







Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Metabolic on October 28, 2012, 10:27:53 AM
You could try some of this

http://www.elitefts.com/ws4sb/WS4SB.pdf
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
I'd go 4x a week to get the volume in.

I'd also lower the amount of exercises, but bump up the number of sets, something like -

Alternating weekly Squats or Deadlifts 3-4 sets of five - 6.

Alternate weekly incline or flat bench - 3 x 5, 1 x 10 - 12, the high rep back off set to help hold size.

Wide grip chins - 3 x 6 - 8, 1 high rep set.

Press out of rack - 3 x 5 or 6.

Straight Barbell curls 2-3 x 6-10

I'd probably throw in a couple of sets of pullovers or similar here too.

Till I knew it was healed, I'd play every thing by feel, especially the pressing movements.









Can you elaborate one the 1 set of higher rep - is this only every other week?
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: BB on October 28, 2012, 10:41:59 AM
No, every bench workout. Back when lots of guys followed full body stuff, they found that if they added in a set or two of higher rep work it would help them retain size better. It seems to work very well and only takes a extra minute or two.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2012, 01:03:29 PM
Thanks for input,

Has anyone else anything constructive to add?
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 28, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
We follow a Westside template. Today is a maximum effort upper. Reverse band bench. 10 x 2 working to 100%
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Darren Avey on October 29, 2012, 01:56:49 AM
Er what?!!
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 29, 2012, 02:17:21 AM
Go on a losing weight routine tubby.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: BigCyp on October 29, 2012, 02:22:06 AM
We follow a Westside template. Today is a maximum effort upper. Reverse band bench. 10 x 2 working to 100%

Sounds like you love the cock with all your heart mind and soul.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 29, 2012, 02:24:45 AM
Sounds like you love the cock with all your heart mind and soul.

Yes Big C, every post that coach makes just reeks of unwashed penis.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: cephissus on October 29, 2012, 02:30:54 AM
nothing more boring or pointless fretting over training routines after decades of experience in the gym...

push yourself a little, but not too much.  keep it simple, with few movements.  that's all.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: BigCyp on October 29, 2012, 02:33:57 AM
Yes Big C, every post that coach makes just reeks of unwashed penis.

He sounds like the type of guy who adds a mandatory 'How long and thick is your penis' and 'are you circumcised' question to his 'gym' membership forms oh brother gayer than decaff
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: dr.chimps on October 29, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
Thanks for input,

Has anyone else anything constructive to add?
If you ever find yourself being chased by a crocodile, do not run in a straight line; he'll reel you in for lunch. However, running laterally at points should dump the croc on his side and allow you a clean getaway.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Marty Champions on October 29, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
ursus doesnt make any sense to me

for a "life time natural" hes already standing pressing 315 for reps

and now wants to go on a "strength routine"

....oh brother...
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: _bruce_ on October 29, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
315 press is unreal.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: funk51 on October 29, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
A few weeks ago I hurt myself throwing back db's for incline presses. Foot slipped as I did it and hurt my shoulder, I trianed around it a workout or two before realising it was hurt so I took 2-3 weeks off. I think I am now almost 100% and ready to train again - I will know tomorrow anyway.

To prevent injuring it i am considering doing almost a full body workout 4x week or something similar whereby I train movements as opposed to bodypart splits. They days I squat I will do very little else apart from maybe assistance exercises or silly things like biceps just to keep everything ticking over.

I will also start very low and pick maybe 6-8 exercises and do 2 sets of each everyday that I feel that bodypart/movement has recovered. Has anyone any thoughts on this. I done it before with good success. It also meant that I could train in approximately an hour which also helped and suited me a lot.

I was thinking of focusing on

Bench
Squat
Deadlift
Standing Press
Chins
Rows
Dips, CG Bench or Inclines
Good Mornings.

Obviously I will start very light and build it up, but any thoughts on this.

On a routine where I benched 5x week my 5RM went to a 8RM in approx 6 weeks.

Saying this I could go down to gym tomorrow and not feel 100%.

I also do not wish to lose size so if this happens I will up food intake.
look up bill seno or reg park.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: cephissus on October 29, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
ursus doesnt make any sense to me

for a "life time natural" hes already standing pressing 315 for reps

and now wants to go on a "strength routine"

....oh brother...

another wise post
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
Yes Big C, every post that coach makes just reeks of unwashed penis.

You must know a lot about how unwashed penises smell.
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 30, 2012, 02:59:34 PM
Never once claimed 315 for reps!

Go on a losing weight routine tubby.

Diet
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Marty Champions on October 30, 2012, 03:02:03 PM
Never once claimed 315 for reps!

Diet

lol weve seen your vids already toying with 315 on standing miliatry bro  ::) i dont even stand press 225 your strength is absurd  all that heme iron killed your hair but gave you super human strenth
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on October 30, 2012, 03:12:42 PM
thought goudy still had his hair?
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Ursus on October 30, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
I do still have my hair.

Never repped 315 I could MAYBE semi push press it for 1
Title: Re: Contemplating a strength routine - thoughts and advices
Post by: Hulkotron on October 30, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Make sure to do the correct number of reps and sets.