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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: animal1991 on October 30, 2012, 08:04:33 AM
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Not necessarily pro bikini girls, but the average girls? How do they get so lean and have abs and such?
I know diet of course and training is first? But what drugs? I've read that some bikini girls live on t3 and cycling clen?
If you look on sites with fit women etc it seems they attain their condition easily and without a lot of difficulty.
So how do they cycle their fat burners or what do they use?
I mean with diet and exercise being right its already difficult for a woman to lose bodyfat who is already moderately lean through dieting.
Those of them who are naturally skinny have it a bit easier, but those who struggle to lose weight and end up ripped? I'm sure they use drugs like t3/clen.
Please explain if possible??
Examples below:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma2d7z792P1qeaj38o1_250.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbaa2pwKum1ru9y3vo1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbmzlquEjo1rqlia6o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbs771KH6P1ryi561o1_500.jpg)
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Just as an example my sister is on t3 replacement therapy and she is skinny as hell. And she eats what she wants. I don't know if she just uses the replacement dosage or more. But I think she uses more than prescribed. Maybe 40-50mcg a day?
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Lol, just leave the fatass already, or accept she's fat...
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who's this babydoll in the yellow :P
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Lol, just leave the fatass already, or accept she's fat...
I'm asking out of interest sake dude. This hasn't got anything to do with my GF
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Not smart. T3 causes permanent thyroid shut down, which means you'll need to take the T3 for the rest of your (her) life.
Clen work well at first, but it attenuates (ie. stops working) in about 2-3 weeks.
Combos of yohimbine HCL, caffeine and clen always helped me, but there are side-effects. Insomnia is the toughest one for me to deal with.
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Regardless of drugs they use, I know a few bikini competitors, some local here, some I speak to over the internet only, but all of them eat basically nothing for weeks on end.
I'm talking about 1 small chicken breast with a salad (no nuts or oils in the salad!) 5-6 times a day.
Basically a protein fast at around 1000 kcals/day or less for 8-16 weeks.
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animal, they starve themselves into that condition and move around alot.
theyre consistens on their diets.
when women are very lean, you know theyre consistent on diet, they dont get away with shit foods.
yeah, they are on some kind of fatburners, the top pic might even be on some gh or anavar.
consistency over long period of time;lean physique.
i seen kinda fat women get very lean, all it took was long diet.
and the most important mindset to have imo, is, to not think about dieting just to get lean, one should always watch their food intake.
letting go for a month and the leannes will just fade away as if it never was there
a woman needs to starve herself heavily heavily to get very lean.not 1200calories.try half that amount
I really hate to see nice titties disappear from all this.
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They all have fake tits because of that, no worries ;D
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animal1991, any idea who the first girl is? She's hawt!
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animal, they starve themselves into that condition and move around alot.
theyre consistens on their diets.
when women are very lean, you know theyre consistent on diet, they dont get away with shit foods.
yeah, they are on some kind of fatburners, the top pic might even be on some gh or anavar.
consistency over long period of time;lean physique.
i seen kinda fat women get very lean, all it took was long diet.
and the most important mindset to have imo, is, to not think about dieting just to get lean, one should always watch their food intake.
letting go for a month and the leannes will just fade away as if it never was there
a woman needs to starve herself heavily heavily to get very lean.not 1200calories.try half that amount
Really? Because the before and afters they always make as if they never went beyond the "oh so deadly" 1200 mark.
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animal1991, any idea who the first girl is? She's hawt!
No idea, just got pics off a tumblr site
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animal1991, any idea who the first girl is? She's hawt!
the 4th girl smokes the 1st girl
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Not smart. T3 causes permanent thyroid shut down, which means you'll need to take the T3 for the rest of your (her) life.
Clen work well at first, but it attenuates (ie. stops working) in about 2-3 weeks.
Combos of yohimbine HCL, caffeine and clen always helped me, but there are side-effects. Insomnia is the toughest one for me to deal with.
There's lots of studies that proof t3 doesn't cause permanent thyroid damage. When coming off t3 it usually takes about 4 weeks until natural levels are reached again. There's no permanent shut down. The exogenous t3 only supresses your natty production while on and for a while after. Not permanently!
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Cocaine and cum
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So would you really recommend a 600 calorie diet?
I stated only what I've read about the 4 weeks or so time period.
I've had my GF on a 800 calorie diet before and then still the fat loss was slow.
And I know a lot of guys on here are gonna say she's not consistent etc etc but I know what I know.
And I know estrogen plays a huge rule in female fat loss as well and that's also why she struggles? She may have a bit higher estrogen levels than normal? I can't say for sure, but just from what I've seen she's been through I can only presume.
I've got her thyroid levels checked and everything is normal so there's no problem there.
She trains harder than any girl I know and see in the gym and I know for sure the other girls don't diet, maybe just eat healthy, but they get results and my GF doesn't?
It discourages her big time and as I've stated I'm out of ideas on what to do. We're following a low carb diet and she's on between 1000 and 1200 cals at the moment and fat loss is very, very slow.
She's also taking clen (80mcg/day) and we're doing 20-30min cardio 4-5x a day. I know I should increase to about 45-60min, but we are getting there...
The only reason I've not put her on 600 calories or less because I'm a bit afraid because it sounds like a crash diet and I don't want to mess her metabolism up. (Sounds conflicting because of the T3 issue, I know)
So is it better to do super low calories or is it better to take T3 and with a bit higher calories? Or LOW calories and T3?
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Does animal have a gf who cant stop doing late night fridge runs?
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yes, some 600 cals.
dont worry, the metabolism wont crash.
the fatloss comes slow no matter what, the key is time.
she shouldnt use t3, this will have terrible jojo effect.
maybe you should give her time to build some muscle first(no bulking,lol,no steroids), then the diet will come easier.
and estrogen will go down with lower fatlevels.
oh and dont advice her on taking anti estrogen,lol.
no cheat days, no cheat meals, take your time.
She has quite a good amount of muscle. She didn't diet when first starting weight training. So the only thing is patience and hard work
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I'm asking out of interest sake dude. This hasn't got anything to do with my GF
If I'm not mistaken you've been posting asking for diet/training advice for the last couple months. Everyone on here including myself has given you great tips/advice reposting the same thread with different titles is not gonna get your gf in shape...
If that's not you then I guess I was harsh, if you are that guy my advice to you is what I posted earlier leave her or accept the fact that she is fat and will never look like vida or any other fitness model...
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OP you're not appreciating what really goes into a women looking like that.
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Name of the second athlete with the pink bikni?
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One word....clen
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like g says, you just gotta "take the pain" and suffer
i still stand by my propostion that very had training is a requirement, as the bio-chemical changes that very hard training puts into motion IS KEY
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We cant really help u without seeing pics. The less she is wearin, the better. The naked body; its the only way we can give an accurate assessment. You really shouldnt be so selfish. Do this for your g/f.
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galinko looks great but I'm not sure if he's had personal experience with getting a female in shape...seems like men try to get much leaner than females.
Animal, she doesn't need drugs, she just needs discipline and focus and hard work if she wants to look like the pics you posted (other than the body in the yellow bikini, which looks thin but nice but perhaps as though she may not weight train).
Hard training and pretty strict dieting for 10 weeks, no illegal drugs, one Lipo 6 before training, glutamine and BCAAs for three weeks:
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I know you guys don't believe this. But we are doing strict keto Monday to Friday. And weekends we carb up a bit but we never binge and eat ourselves into a fucking coma.
I've been to a few people where I live and they also can't explain it.
Her thyroid may still be an issue. Her TSH may have tested normal levels but what I've been thinking is your body releases mainly T4 and then some of it converts in the liver to T3.
I've read that some people don't efficiently convert the T4 into T3 and this can still cause a slow metabolism.
You guys won't believe me but I know what my GF does and what she does not do, and I KNOW she does not cheat unless I say she can. And that's ONLY Saturday and Sunday and like I've stated we don't go crazy on food.
And I'm telling you both cheat days combined won't even equal over 4000 calories.
That's why I'm resorting to something like T3 because we are strict on keto, we are training our ass off, we are doing everything possible, but yet she doesn't seem to lose weight?
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If her calories were for instance 2100 calories a day to maintain her weight and now she eats 1200 calories a day for fat loss. That's already a 900 calorie deficit.
So let's say normally she would eat 14700 calories for the entire week. Now she eats only 1200x5 + the 4000 calories over the weekend. That would equal 10000 calories resulting in a 4700 calorie deficit over a week. That's 1 and a third LBS of weight loss theoretically WITHOUT any weigh training and cardio. So let's say she burns another 500 calories with exercise 3x a week. That's would equal an additional 1500 calorie deficit resulting in a 6200 calorie deficit over a week. Which is almost a 2 lb weight loss.
And it doesn't happen??
So what gives??
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but, how fat or lean was this girl before the diet?
nah i never helped get a female into shape, but i know what the fitness competitors in my gym do , same for female bodybuilders.
why wouldnt the same thing that works for men not work on them? ???
Before the diet, not fat by regular standards and lost about 10 pounds in 10 weeks.
I'm just saying there is no need for drugs to get lean (for a normal/healthy person)...but if she really has a thyroid issue maybe she should be on them as prescribed by a doctor.
animal, have you ever checked the garbage cans to see if there are ice cream bar wrappers or anything in there? Seriously...she could be cheating...or like you say could have thyroid or other issues. But you may want to check out her car and garbage cans sporadically...just to check.
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Before the diet, not fat by regular standards and lost about 10 pounds in 10 weeks.
I'm just saying there is no need for drugs to get lean (for a normal/healthy person)...but if she really has a thyroid issue maybe she should be on them as prescribed by a doctor.
animal, have you ever checked the garbage cans to see if there are ice cream bar wrappers or anything in there? Seriously...she could be cheating...or like you say could have thyroid or other issues. But you may want to check out her car and garbage cans sporadically...just to check.
Yes I check the garbage and there's nothing. I know she wouldn't hide anything from me.
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Examples below:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma2d7z792P1qeaj38o1_250.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbaa2pwKum1ru9y3vo1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbmzlquEjo1rqlia6o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbs771KH6P1ryi561o1_500.jpg)
Lawdy....I really need to cut back on the test!!
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Yes I check the garbage and there's nothing. I know she wouldn't hide anything from me.
The glove box of the car? Bet there's a snickers in there :D
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Regardless of drugs they use, I know a few bikini competitors, some local here, some I speak to over the internet only, but all of them eat basically nothing for weeks on end.
I'm talking about 1 small chicken breast with a salad (no nuts or oils in the salad!) 5-6 times a day.
Basically a protein fast at around 1000 kcals/day or less for 8-16 weeks.
Sounds like the Bombshell diet ::)
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Most girls that I know who are very thin hardly eat anything at all.
Of course if you want to be in "competitive" condition along with this then there are drugs involved.
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PED
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Most girls that I know who are very thin hardly eat anything at all.
Of course if you want to be in "competitive" condition along with this then there are drugs involved.
exactly
and then if she wants to have some shape to her figure then she needs to practice very hard and consistant training
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Not necessarily pro bikini girls, but the average girls? How do they get so lean and have abs and such?
If you want good advice post a pic of your gf from the neck down. No nude, bikini or similar. So people can actually assess her condition and bodytype.
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Dropping to sub-1000 cals is rarely needed especially in a chick <30 years old. Carbs are well tolerated and metabolically stimulating...a chick eating 800 cals is most likely suppressed to shit metabolically unless she's 90lbs. A lot can be obtained in terms of fat loss by proper macro manipulation + refeed timing, but rarely do you see someone with legit knowledge like that. A lot of these chicks just crash diet and shit happens in spite of what they do
Shit like clen,t3, fat burners all help obviously, but it's possible to reach a bf level like pics 3 and 4 without anything.
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Yes I check the garbage and there's nothing. I know she wouldn't hide anything from me.
if she wouldnt hide anything from you then why are you checking to see if she hid anything from you?
just leave her already, you're too obsessed with her weight to be happy. shortmike, bard or andreaman would be happy to take her off your hands.
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80 % ectomorph genetics + 15% eating like a bird/nothing + 2% doing abs three times a week + 3% plastic surgery for boobs...
This and clen for those of these whores who have access to it thanks to a roided gymrat.
Needless to say if your gf doesnt have ecto genetics and is ugly looking, she ll never ever look like these women you spam the board with and you want her to look like.
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80 % ectomorph genetics + 15% eating like a bird/nothing + 2% doing abs three times a week + 3% plastic surgery for boobs...
This and clen for those of these whores who have access to it thanks to a roided gymrat.
Needless to say if your gf doesnt have ecto genetics and is ugly looking, she ll never ever look like these women you spam the board with and you want her to look like.
Well that's just your opinion dude.
I'm not spamming this board I come here to ask questions and get advice, and I use the advice I get, but nothing has worked so far.
And nobody listens to what I try to say about that she is strict on diet, she is training her ass off, she does her cardio, and still doesn't lose weight?
If you can explain it by all means do, but as I've said I know what I know and what I experience with her.
And the fact that everybody thinks I want to change her are mistaken. She wants to do this and compete next year. I try to find out the best and efficient way to get her there.
Training and diet comes first, but why can't she lose weight then? There must be a hormone problem the doc overlooked.
Like I stated he only tested TSH. He didn't test T4 or T3 levels.
Can't anyone give an educated answer?
Can there be a problem from converting T4 to T3 or maybe she can't efficiently metabolize the hormones?