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Flailing in Ohio, Romney rolls out Jeep ploy: editorial
Monday, October 29, 2012
By The Plain Dealer Editorial Board
Mitt Romney is desperate to convince Ohio voters that he's the candidate most committed to the U.S. auto industry -- no matter how much confusion he must sow to do it.
Last week, Romney recklessly told a large audience in Defiance that he'd read that Chrysler's Italian owners -- that would be Fiat, which has controlled the American automaker since 2009 -- were planning to move all Jeep production to China. The Republican presidential nominee's statement predictably drew groans in Northwest Ohio, where the auto industry is critical to prosperity. He pledged to keep American jobs in America, if elected.
But apparently Romney had been reading a blogger who misunderstood reports that Chrysler was looking to again make some Jeeps in China for that expanding market. The news is a sign of Chrysler's health, not of some sinister intentions by its management. The company is investing $500 million and hiring 1,100 workers at its Toledo Jeep plant. The day Romney misspoke, Chrysler announced plans to add 1,100 employees in Detroit, too. A company spokesman called any suggestion that Chrysler is abandoning its U.S. plants "a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats."
Ah, but not for a presidential candidate who needs a wedge in auto-dependent Ohio. Romney is now running an ad that reinforces the erroneous perception he laid out in Defiance, but in language that is technically true: "Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China."
In one sentence, Romney presses hot buttons about bankruptcy -- though he, too, favored that route, albeit without direct federal investment -- foreigners and outsourcing. It's a masterpiece of misdirection.
The Romney campaign clearly is being hurt by the fact that Chrysler and GM were saved by the decisions of President Barack Obama. So Romney and his surrogates claim that Obama essentially followed their blueprint for the rescue or that it really wasn't a good deal -- because some plants and dealerships closed -- or, now, that the wolf is back at the door.
It won't work. Ohio voters know who stepped up when the auto industry was at the abyss -- and it wasn't Romney.
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Oct 29, 2012
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yup.
and probably not mentioned on Fox News.
all day.
well, maybe Shepard Smith.
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Its okay because Obama is a commie, thug bla bla..
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333386 has been suspiciously absent in this thread.
would like to read spin on why MR is correct and Jeep folks got their info wrong. :D
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There will be a new smaller Jeep model on sale in the near future for North America and it will be built in Italy.
Chinese/Asian markets will be satiated by Chinese/Asian factories no matter the company. But Europe is a crap shoot, far too expensive to shutter factories, way to expensive and drawn out to lay-off workers....there is also a recession/dramatic slowdown in the Eurozone and a ton of unused capacity. China will produce regionally while companies with factories in the EU will be scrambling to find ways to use the spare capacity
Romney got caught reading a Bloomberg article based on a blog post that wasn't exactly true.
He should be more careful next time.
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There will be a new smaller Jeep model on sale in the near future for North America and it will be built in Italy.
Chinese/Asian markets will be satiated by Chinese/Asian factories no matter the company. But Europe is a crap shoot, far too expensive to shutter factories, way to expensive and drawn out to lay-off workers....there is also a recession/dramatic slowdown in the Eurozone and a ton of unused capacity. China will produce regionally while companies with factories in the EU will be scrambling to find ways to use the spare capacity
Romney got caught reading a Bloomberg article based on a blog post that wasn't exactly true.
He should be more careful next time.
you would think as a 65 year old man he would have the experience by now to admit when he made a mistake and just move on
very odd behaviour for someone who wants to be the most important decision maker on the planet
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I already nuked this thread, Romney was righ ton jeep, they move to Italy who will outsource to china.
BAM!!
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I already nuked this thread, Romney was righ ton jeep, they move to Italy who will outsource to china.
BAM!!
:D :D :D you must be retarded
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:D :D :D you must be retarded
Stranger things have happened.
Chrysler doesn't really have a say, anyways.
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I already nuked this thread, Romney was righ ton jeep, they move to Italy who will outsource to china.
BAM!!
Every post increasingly reveals how you are both annoying and very, very stupid. :-\
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I already nuked this thread, Romney was righ ton jeep, they move to Italy who will outsource to china.
BAM!!
You vote gop right?
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Romney Versus the Automakers
Published: October 31, 2012 67
When General Motors tells a presidential campaign that it is engaging in “cynical campaign politics at its worst,” that’s a pretty good signal that the campaign has crossed a red line and ought to pull back. Not Mitt Romney’s campaign. Having broadcast an outrageously deceitful ad attacking the auto bailout, the campaign ignored the howls from carmakers and came back with more.
Mr. Romney apparently plans to end his race as he began it: playing lowest-common-denominator politics, saying anything necessary to achieve power and blithely deceiving voters desperate for clarity and truth.
What Mr. Romney cannot admit is that all this is a direct result of the government investment he would have rejected. It’s bad enough to be wrong on the policy. It takes an especially dishonest candidate to simply turn up the volume on a lie and keep repeating it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/opinion/mitt-romney-versus-the-automakers.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1351775530-5pEHmf7nyICQJvQ4vpSIHw
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Factcheckers and Chrysler are commies ::)
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33333 Respond to this shit...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=446089.0;attach=490516;image)
;D
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The Washington Post Fact Checker has declared that Mitt Romney's television ad about Jeep production being moved overseas, which has "hurt" the "feelings" of the Obama campaign and the left, is "factually defensible" and "technically correct."
Actually, the Fact Checker's Glenn Kessler gave the Jeep ad four Pinocchios, somehow conveying a verdict of gross dishonesty, despite the fact that no statement in Romney's ad is incorrect. But my headline conveys the "overall impression" of Kessler's article--which is the standard he uses to attack Romney.
Here is the naked truth about Romney's claims about Jeep. Romney was wrong to say, in a speech in Ohio last week, that Jeep is moving "all" production to China. That statement, even if it was just a slip, was worthy of correction.
But the Jeep ad airing in Ohio makes no such statement. It says that Chrysler, Jeep's parent, was sold "to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China." That is 100% correct, and has been since 2010, as Tony Lee pointed out yesterday. It is also true that "Fact checkers confirm that [Obama's] attacks on Mitt Romney [on the auto bailout] are false" and that Romney "is supported by Lee Iacocca and the Detroit News."
So what is the Fact Checker upset about? The "overall impression," which is an entirely subjective judgment of whether Obama or Romney had the better of the argument about whose policy was best for the auto industry.
This is yet another example of the corruption of so-called "fact checkers" in the mainstream media, who routinely run interference for the Obama campaign. Kessler's attack on Romney--for that is what it is--even resembles the complaints of Obama aides David Axelrod and Jim Messina on a call with reporters yesterday.
No doubt the Obama campaign will work up a television ad featuring Kessler's four Pinocchios--and the Washington Post will be in no hurry to remind readers that it acknowledged Romney was actually correct on the facts.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/30/WaPo-Rates-Romney-Jeep-Ad-Correct
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The Washington Post Fact Checker has declared that Mitt Romney's television ad about Jeep production being moved overseas, which has "hurt" the "feelings" of the Obama campaign and the left, is "factually defensible" and "technically correct."
Actually, the Fact Checker's Glenn Kessler gave the Jeep ad four Pinocchios, somehow conveying a verdict of gross dishonesty, despite the fact that no statement in Romney's ad is incorrect. But my headline conveys the "overall impression" of Kessler's article--which is the standard he uses to attack Romney.
Here is the naked truth about Romney's claims about Jeep. Romney was wrong to say, in a speech in Ohio last week, that Jeep is moving "all" production to China. That statement, even if it was just a slip, was worthy of correction.
But the Jeep ad airing in Ohio makes no such statement. It says that Chrysler, Jeep's parent, was sold "to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China." That is 100% correct, and has been since 2010, as Tony Lee pointed out yesterday. It is also true that "Fact checkers confirm that [Obama's] attacks on Mitt Romney [on the auto bailout] are false" and that Romney "is supported by Lee Iacocca and the Detroit News."
So what is the Fact Checker upset about? The "overall impression," which is an entirely subjective judgment of whether Obama or Romney had the better of the argument about whose policy was best for the auto industry.
This is yet another example of the corruption of so-called "fact checkers" in the mainstream media, who routinely run interference for the Obama campaign. Kessler's attack on Romney--for that is what it is--even resembles the complaints of Obama aides David Axelrod and Jim Messina on a call with reporters yesterday.
No doubt the Obama campaign will work up a television ad featuring Kessler's four Pinocchios--and the Washington Post will be in no hurry to remind readers that it acknowledged Romney was actually correct on the facts.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/30/WaPo-Rates-Romney-Jeep-Ad-Correct
how the fuck is he correct on the facts when what he said was blatantly false?
is Jeep moving all production to china? NO
Is jeep producing in China? YES, does that impact the US? NO, so why mention it? because he is playing on peoples fears and is a dirtbag.
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Post more beitbart links. We all believe them!
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Post more beitbart links. We all believe them!
You should, he was the one who called out Anthony Weiner and got his ass busted. You going to deny that as well? ::)
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You should, he was the one who called out Anthony Weiner and got his ass busted. You going to deny that as well? ::)
Are you the man behind coachisright.com?
And, by the way, didn't The National Enquirer break the Edwards story?
Should we post a bunch of links from there?
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I already nuked this thread, Romney was righ ton jeep, they move to Italy who will outsource to china.
BAM!!
You are mistaken. Try reading a little more.
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Trump had to speak up about it as well. The CEO of Chrysler has a few words for him:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/02/chrysler-ceo-tells-trump-you-are-full-of-shit-on-twitter/
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another 'oops' moment for the mitt.
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Every post increasingly reveals how you are both annoying and very, very stupid. :-\
X2
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The Jeep Plant Mitt Romney Said Was Moving To China Is Booming In Ohio
Source: TPM
Igor Bobic
The auto plant at center of a misleading TV ad run by Mitt Romney's campaign during the 2012 presidential election is booming, Bloomberg reported Friday.
In a last-ditch effort to swing Ohio into the Republican column in the waning days of the campaign, Romney's team aired an ad that gave the impression that Chrysler would ship jobs to China because of President Obama's auto rescue.
"Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China," the ad's narrator claimed.
Not only is the factory in question still in Ohio, demand for Jeeps is so great that Chrysler is planning on hiring up to 1,000 part-time workers as a way to alleviate pressure on regular employees who work 60 hours per week.
FULL story at link.
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oh my god, a bold face lie was in fact a lie.
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This is the lie that's important to the country right now. Can we blame George Bush for some more stuff while we are at it?
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This is the lie that's important to the country right now. Can we blame George Bush for some more stuff while we are at it?
It's an example of the type of thinking that has you assholes in the situation you are in.
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This is the lie that's important to the country right now. Can we blame George Bush for some more stuff while we are at it?
;)
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Holy shit the cry baby fest is full tilt right now LOL