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OCTOBER 30--A New Mexico cop shot a 10-year-old student in the chest with a 50,000-volt taser gun during a “career day” visit to the boy’s school, an accident that resulted in the officer’s brief suspension and recently triggered a civil lawsuit, records show.
The child was hit with the taser probes during a demonstration earlier this year at Tularosa Elementary School, where Officer Christopher Webb spoke to groups of students in the school playground about gun and taser safety.
While Webb claimed the taser “accidentally discharged,” the victim’s lawyers charge that the cop was recklessly joking around with students when the boy was struck with two electrified barbs.
Webb reportedly asked a group of students who would like to clean his patrol unit. While a group of boys said they would, the victim--identified as “R.D.” by his lawyers--“jokingly said that he did not want to clean the patrol unit,” according to a Santa Fe District Court lawsuit.
In response, Webb allegedly pointed his taser at the boy and said, “Let me show you what happens to people who do not listen to the police.” The 44-year-old cop then fired his Taser X26 model.
According to a Department of Public Safety (DPS) report, Webb, a member of the state’s Motor Transportation Police Division, removed his taser from its holster “to display it for attendees.” Once the weapon was “out of the holster, he pulled the trigger and the probes from this less-lethal weapon struck a 10 year old male subject in his chest.”
In a memo to his superiors, Webb contended that he first removed the taser cartridge before showing the weapon to an initial group of students. However, he later “removed it from the holster not realizing I put the cartridge back on. The taser accidentally discharged hitting a boy directly in the chest.”
The five-second jolt from the weapon knocked the boy to the ground, where he blacked out. The child was left with scars resembling cigarette burns on his chest, according to the lawsuit.
Webb recalled first escorting the boy to a school bathroom “to help clean him up.” When a teacher approached them in the bathroom and asked what happened, Webb wrote that, “I explained to him what had happened. Myself and the teacher escorted Ryan to the Nurses office.” Webb added that he waited until the arrival of the student’s mother, who agreed with the cop’s suggestion to take the boy “to the doctor for safety precautions.”
Webb added that the boy’s mother “stated that she wasn’t mad at what had happened.”
The mishap at the May 4 career day (a photo from which can be seen here) resulted in a three-day suspension for Webb, according to a DPS report.
The tasering also has prompted a civil complaint accusing Webb and DPS of battery, negligence, and failure to render medical care (among other claims). The October 26 lawsuit notes that the boy could have suffered “death or serious bodily injury” from the tasering.
The incident “caused the child to suffer Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome symptoms,” and the boy “has woken up in the middle of the night holding his chest afraid he is never going to wake up again.” The lawsuit does not specify actual, punitive, and compensatory damages being sought.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cop-tasers-kid-687452 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cop-tasers-kid-687452)
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Come on.... you seriously believe that it was intentional?
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Come on.... you seriously believe that it was intentional?
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'Let me show you what happens to people who do not listen to the police.'" The officer then shot "two barbs into the boys chest"
The officer even verbalised his intention! - Somebody who doesn't intend to TASER somebody, doesn't point a TASER at them. PERIOD.
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use....your....head!!!
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I wouldn't mind obama and bernanke being tasered accidentally. I'd laugh my balls off.
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Cop obviously forgot he put the cartridge back in.
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Cop obviously forgot he put the cartridge back in.
I suspect that is what really happened. BUT, consdering it was "career day" at a school, he is still liable for the tassering of that boy.
This was a careless accident and the cop should be held responsible for it.
BUT, I cringe when others rush to judgement to read into what poitical motivations were at issue.
It was pretty simple.
1. The cop made a dumb remark followed by a careless use of his unchecked tasser weopon.
2. A young person was injured from the cop's careless act.
3. The police dept ( and cop) is responsible for helong the boy and making restitution for the careless act.
End of story.
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I suspect that is what really happened. BUT, consdering it was "career day" at a school, he is still liable for the tassering of that boy.
This was a careless accident and the cop should be held responsible for it.
BUT, I cringe when others rush to judgement to read into what poitical motivations were at issue.
It was pretty simple.
1. The cop made a dumb remark followed by a careless use of his unchecked tasser weopon.
2. A young person was injured from the cop's careless act.
3. The police dept ( and cop) is responsible for helong the boy and making restitution for the careless act.
End of story.
Totally agree Howie, cop obviously fucked up but no underlying evil was involved lol.
Police force and individual should definately be culpable, regardless of the mother 'being ok with it' at the time. Imagine if he pretended to shoot the poor lad with a revolver...
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You don't point your weapon at anything you don't plan on shooting. Loaded or unloaded. Period.
Basic firearm safety.
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The real issue here is the low intelligence of the police force. Should not be allowed to carry weapons.
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The real issue here is the low intelligence of the police force. Should not be allowed to carry weapons.
and you base that on what facts exactly? I mean if you make a statement like that you must have some hard facts that prove that right? Otherwise its just more garbage from you right?
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The real issue here is the low intelligence of the police force. Should not be allowed to carry weapons.
well, that particular officer anyway.. wtf was he thinking ???
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well, that particular officer anyway.. wtf was he thinking ???
And I bet any amount of money him and his mates are all joking about it while eating donuts and coffee. The average copper believes that their is THEM & US, and every non policeman is guilty of something, so who gives a fuck if we shoot or taser someone, accidental or otherwise. I think you either have to be a sadist or a sociopath to be a policeman. You get the occasional NAIVE do-gooder, but they never last, Organised Criminals like the Mafia, Bikies and Police are always run by SHARKS! with a bunch of sociopaths coming up the ranks!
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Mexico of peace
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And I bet any amount of money him and his mates are all joking about it while eating donuts and coffee. The average copper believes that their is THEM & US, and every non policeman is guilty of something, so who gives a fuck if we shoot or taser someone, accidental or otherwise. I think you either have to be a sadist or a sociopath to be a policeman. You get the occasional NAIVE do-gooder, but they never last, Organised Criminals like the Mafia, Bikies and Police are always run by SHARKS! with a bunch of sociopaths coming up the ranks!
serious question: How many cops do you actually know, I am talking about cops that gave you a ticket but how many do you actually know and had a friendly conversation with.
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You don't point your weapon at anything you don't plan on shooting. Loaded or unloaded. Period.
Basic firearm safety.
Good post.
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and you base that on what facts exactly? I mean if you make a statement like that you must have some hard facts that prove that right? Otherwise its just more garbage from you right?
Basing it on my experiences with cops over the years, + the known facts that they have lowered entry requirements in most western countries to get more women and racial minorities. So dumber cops = more injuries and deaths. Capiche?
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Basing it on my experiences with cops over the years, + the known facts that they have lowered entry requirements in most western countries to get more women and racial minorities. So dumber cops = more injuries and deaths. Capiche?
You see you have a problem, ever argument you make is based on assumptions not actual facts, but I help you out and give you an excample.
Fakt:
They are lowering the engtry requirement (you didn't say in what area they lower them but we leave that asside)
Assumption:
That means that everybody who is now approved to become a cop is automaticly more stupid than cops that applied before they lowered the entry level.
Instead....
Made up Fakt:
The US government has made wide analysis of the average IQ of all Police officers in service at this given time and the IQ is of a mid to low standard based on these facts ,,,, yadadad
Do you fucking understand or do you want me to explain it to you further?
And btw. I'm not even commenting on your argument that you know cops because you talked to them once in your life ::)
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Your whole post is loaded with assumptions. I have been friends with a family of cops, I have first hand experience of major corruption, stupidity etc etc.
You see you have a problem, ever argument you make is based on assumptions not actual facts, but I help you out and give you an excample.
Fakt:
They are lowering the engtry requirement (you didn't say in what area they lower them but we leave that asside)
Assumption:
That means that everybody who is now approved to become a cop is automaticly more stupid than cops that applied before they lowered the entry level.
Instead....
Made up Fakt:
The US government has made wide analysis of the average IQ of all Police officers in service at this given time and the IQ is of a mid to low standard based on these facts ,,,, yadadad
Do you fucking understand or do you want me to explain it to you further?
And btw. I'm not even commenting on your argument that you know cops because you talked to them once in your life ::)
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serious question: How many cops do you actually know, I am talking about cops that gave you a ticket but how many do you actually know and had a friendly conversation with.
I have known three policeman in my time, one is a very good friend of my Mum's, the other was a motorbike policeman and friend of my brothers and the family, and another was friend of mine who lasted about two years in the police force, he left because he was shocked how corrupt it was. I have had friends who have been beaten by Police, hang out the window of multi story buildings by police, another friend loaded up with drugs and imprisoned for years, and I myself have had my fair share of negative experiences with them.
To me, they are all douchebags, I get sick of them saying, "Oh, that's just a few bad apples" Bullshit, corruption is rife and if they gave a fuck they would do something about the organisation they work for being held in such contempt. (This is typical group behaviour, when one doesn't pull their weight, or makes them look bad, they just blame that individual, rather than fix the individual to fix the group but when an individual does well, they say see, the police are great aren't they, it works both ways, one could easily say that the good policemen is the exception and not the norm) Over here is Australia, a high ranking ex-police officer and Royal Commissioner said the corruption is so entrenched he didn't believe it could ever be eradicated. The coppers even shot one of their own in the bathroom at the Police Station for ratting them out. Of course they covered it up, you know, along the lines of he slipped and fell and ate 32 bullets, something like that. If you blow the whistle, the will shit in your coffee cup (this has happened on more than one occasion) and do much worse, they will make your life a living hell.
We even used to have an Armed Offenders Squad which was the Armed Robbery Squad, a unit that regularly used excessive force and violence, an Inquiry found that the Armed Robbery Squad had committed "abuses... so grave as to warrant the most prompt institution of safeguarding reforms. These whackobs were so full of themselves they had their own self-created logo of two golden revolvers with the barrels crossed which was deemed illegal by the Courts and compared to the same type of behaviour as criminal orginisations. An Investigation into these lunatics found that the Armed Offenders Squad were "contemptuous of the law", "divisive, insular, and exclusionary", and possessed an attitude of "elitist superiority within the Police". They were eventually disbanded but the corruption has continued to this day, it is RIFE, the Police just had a major career criminal "KNOCKED" in jail because he was about to rat on them about organised hits that the Police had paid him for. Anyway, their is nothing you can tell me about the Police, it is an organised Criminal Cartel, pure and simple - Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely
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Your whole post is loaded with assumptions. I have been friends with a family of cops, I have first hand experience of major corruption, stupidity etc etc.
There you go NOW we are getting somewhere, you get the hang of it don't worry keep practicing - just one minor point - you have about what uhmm a couple 100k of cops in the US? Just because you know 1 or 2 or even lets say 100 thats 0.1% of cops that you know, hardly a number that would qualify to make a judgment call on ALL american cops wouldn't you say so yourself?
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irresponsible as fck, but he didn't mean to do it.
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but he didn't mean to do it.
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My experiences plus publicly known history of police forces throughout the world. I would say good cops are a minority working against the tide within their own ranks.
There you go NOW we are getting somewhere, you get the hang of it don't worry keep practicing - just one minor point - you have about what uhmm a couple 100k of cops in the US? Just because you know 1 or 2 or even lets say 100 thats 0.1% of cops that you know, hardly a number that would qualify to make a judgment call on ALL american cops wouldn't you say so yourself?
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I have known three policeman in my time, one is a very good friend of my Mum's, the other was a motorbike policeman and friend of my brothers and the family, and another was friend of mine who lasted about two years in the police force, he left because he was shocked how corrupt it was. I have had friends who have been beaten by Police, hang out the window of multi story buildings by police, another friend loaded up with drugs and imprisoned for years, and I myself have had my fair share of negative experiences with them.
To me, they are all douchebags, I get sick of them saying, "Oh, that's just a few bad apples" Bullshit, corruption is rife and if they gave a fuck they would do something about the organisation they work for being held in such contempt. Over here is Australia, a high ranking ex-police officer and Royal Commissioner said the corruption is so entrenched he didn't believe it could ever be eradicated. The coppers even shot one of their own in the bathroom at the Police Station for ratting them out. Of course they covered it up, you know, along the lines of he slipped and fell and ate 32 bullets, something like that. If you blow the whistle, the will shit in your coffee cup (this has happened on more than one occasion) and do much worse, they will make your life a living hell.
We even used to have an Armed Offenders Squad which was the Armed Robbery Squad, a unit that regularly used excessive force and violence, an Inquiry found that the Armed Robbery Squad had committed "abuses... so grave as to warrant the most prompt institution of safeguarding reforms. These whackobs were so full of themselves they had their own self-created logo of two golden revolvers with the barrels crossed which was deemed illegal by the Courts and compared to the same type of behaviour as criminal orginisations. An Investigation into these lunatics found that the Armed Offenders Squad were "contemptuous of the law", "divisive, insular, and exclusionary", and possessed an attitude of "elitist superiority within the Police". They were eventually disbanded but the corruption has continued to this day, it is RIFE, the Police just had a major career criminal "KNOCKED" in jail because he was about to rat on them about organised hits that the Police had paid him for. Anyway, their is nothing you can tell me about the Police, it is an organised Criminal Cartel, pure and simple - Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely
So I checked it, in 2006 there were 683,396 fully active police officers in the USA - that number must have gone up.
You said you know 3 Police officers personaly and based on your experience you say that the other 683,392 cops are as bad as the once you got to know.
Arguing with you guys is the equivalent of holding a midget on arms length while he is trying to beat your face
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My knowledge of serious corruption was of TOP COPS in a MAJOR city - do you really think their shit doesn't flow downhill?
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family of cops
I prefer not to remember Bronson that way.
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and you base that on what facts exactly? I mean if you make a statement like that you must have some hard facts that prove that right? Otherwise its just more garbage from you right?
Well, I highly doubt any of them will finish Beethoven's 10th.
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My knowledge of serious corruption was of TOP COPS in a MAJOR city - do you really think their shit doesn't flow downhill?
assumption :-*
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So I checked it, in 2006 there were 683,396 fully active police officers in the USA - that number must have gone up.
You said you know 3 Police officers personaly and based on your experience you say that the other 683,392 cops are as bad as the once you got to know.
Arguing with you guys is the equivalent of holding a midget on arms length while he is trying to beat your face
You didn't even read my post, I live in Australia, if you investigate the police force here, you will discover how deeply corrupt it is, it is no secret! Start your research by looking up Don Stewart, ex royal commisioner and one of the nation's most respected judicial figures,, who has recently stated "VICTORIA'S police force is riddled with deep-seated and continuing corruption, cleansing Victoria Police is a "herculean" task. Why the Victoria Police don't want, and the Victorian Government will not have, an independent wide-ranging judicial inquiry into police corruption, is obvious. They know that it would reveal what they don't want revealed."
- In my past I have known some questionable characters, and you learn a lot about the police through these links. I get sick of do-gooders like you doing positive PR for the Police like you somehow know something everyone else doesn't. You are either a policeman or just an A GRADE douchebag! Who cares if the majority of the force have good intentions, the Police are run by the SHARKS, the sociopaths that would make it too the top in any origination, criminal or otherwise. Only naive people believe all that Policing Positive PR Bullshit, why do you think the government spends tens of millions on Positive POLICE PR, it's because the Police suck, they do dodgy shit all the time, and it takes a really good Public relations publicist and millions of dollars to keep douchbeags like you repeating the company line.
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You didn't even read my post, I live in Australia, if you investigate the police force here, you will discover how deeply corrupt it is, it is no secret! Start your research by looking up Don Stewart, ex royal commisioner and one of the nation's most respected judicial figures,, who has recently stated "VICTORIA'S police force is riddled with deep-seated and continuing corruption, cleansing Victoria Police was a "herculean" task. Why the Victoria Police don't want, and the Victorian Government will not have, an independent wide-ranging judicial inquiry into police corruption, such as was had in Queensland and NSW, is obvious. They know that it would reveal what they don't want revealed."
- In my past I have known some questionable characters, and you learn a lot about the police through these links. I get sick of do-gooders like you doing positive PR for the Police like you somehow know something everyone else doesn't. You are either a policeman or just an A GRADE douchebag! Who cares if the majority of the force have good intentions, the Police are run by the SHARKS, the sociopaths that would make it too the top in any origination, criminal or otherwise. Only naive people believe all that Policing Positive PR Bullshit, why do you think the government spends tens of millions on Positive POLICE PR, it's because the Police suck, they do dodgy shit all the time, and it takes a really good Public relations publicist and millions of dollars to keep douchbeags like you repeating the company line.
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Okay this might come as a shock to you, I have been arrested about a gazillion times (I am joking of course but it must have been at least 50-100 times and I am including things like being picked up for simply harassing me and let go an hour later), reason were discussed on getbig a lot of times but lets just say I had a few years in my life were I've mixed with not only the wrong people but the very very wrong people - so naturally I have seen the bad the good the ugly.
I still don't make a judgment call on ALL police officers - why? - Because unless you have met them all its retarded.
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Okay this might come as a shock to you, I have been arrested about a gazillion times (I am joking of course but it must have been at least 50-100 times and I am including things like being picked up for simply harassing me and let go an hour later), reason were discussed on getbig a lot of times but lets just say I had a few years in my life were I've mixed with not only the wrong people but the very very wrong people - so naturally I have seen the bad the good the ugly.
I still don't make a judgment call on ALL police officers - why? - Because unless you have met them all its retarded.
People judge based on a preponderance of evidence... That's how it works. There's a lot of evidence to show that most cops are hypocrites and not very good people.
Do we all know some who are decent and what not... Sure we do.
Even on here, while Agnostic seems to not be open to the blue line itself, he seems an ok guy for the most part.
I have cop friends... Many of whom wish at this point in their lives they had picked different careers because they see how things are and they don't like it themselves, but it's their career.
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I prefer not to remember Bronson that way.
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I still don't make a judgment call on ALL police officers - why? - Because unless you have met them all its retarded.
That's all good and well if they were individuals, but they are part of a group, an organisation, or as they like to call themselves A FORCE. For individuals to behave a certain way within a group, the group must enable it, if it goes against the group, or the individual doesn't fit into the groups ideology, they are outed. Groups attract like minded individuals, otherwise they couldn't even be a group. In groups, one team member represents the rest and vice versa, that's the whole point of a TEAM. No good, saying, well, I'm not going to judge NAZIS because of a few bad apples WTF, if you participate in an ideology and form large groups around that ideology, you carry responsibility for the rest of the group, if you are a decent human being, you either try and get rid of the bad apples and fix the problem, and if you can't do that, because the group is inflexible, well then you leave, you don't sit back and go, well I'm a good one, I don't care that the rest of the TEAM is not pulling their weight.
If someone truly is a GOOD SEED and they do nothing about corruption in their RANKS, then they are guilty by association. No different than if you help a murderer after the fact, you may not have committed the deed, but you are an accessory after the fact. And the whole culture of Blue Silence shows that as a Group, Corruption is to be expected and whistle blowing is frowned upon, their is absolutely no opportunity for good people to fit into such an organisation. That is why they soon leave after learning the truth about the POLICE.
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irresponsible as fck, but he didn't mean to do it.
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Recent studies determined that the average IQ for law enforcement nationwide is at the critical side of low.
National spokesperson William (Bill) Lowery stated that the reasons are clear. It has nothing to do with the very low wages. It's all about the position of power. We seem to attract the people that need to feel superior to the average citizen.
Everyone of higher intelligence seek better pay with less confrontation. City and county police are by far the lowest.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/terre-haute-in/T1V20QD0A01NO0AFU
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United States District Court in New Haven agreed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, was denied an opportunity to interview for a police job because of his high test scores
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/terre-haute-in/T1V20QD0A01NO0AFU
No suprise there, I have never met a smart policemen! I like this article.
A Federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by a man who was barred from the New London police force because he scored too high on an intelligence test.
In a ruling made public on Tuesday, Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven agreed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, was denied an opportunity to interview for a police job because of his high test scores. But he said that that did not mean Mr. Jordan was a victim of discrimination.
Judge Dorsey ruled that Mr. Jordan was not denied equal protection because the city of New London applied the same standard to everyone: anyone who scored too high was rejected.
Mr. Jordan, 48, who has a bachelor's degree in literature and is an officer with the State Department of Corrections, said he was considering an appeal. ''I was eliminated on the basis of my intellectual makeup,'' he said. ''It's the same as discrimination on the basis of gender or religion or race.''
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html)
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SALT LAKE CITY (CN) - Police officers responded to a family's complaint that their diabetic son may have been in danger from driving without taking his medicine by running him off the road into an interstate highway median and shooting him to death, the family says.
Joey Tucker's father, Perry Tucker, and his fiancée Brieanne Matson say they were "concerned about his health" when they called Salt Lake City Police. Joey Tucker had not taken his diabetes medication and "had possibly taken a sleeping pill," according to the federal complaint.
The family claims a Highway Patrol trooper rammed Tucker's pickup into a concrete barrier as Tucker drove on Interstate 80, then Salt Lake Police Officer Louis "Law" Jones shot him to death while he "was simply sitting," all of which was recorded on officers' dashboard cameras.
"Perry Tucker was concerned that his son had not taken his medication for diabetes and had possibly taken a sleeping pill" and called police, the complaint states.
"Accordingly, Brieanne contacted the police to assist in locating Joey because the family was concerned about his health."
Both callers told police that Tucker was unarmed and had not been drinking alcohol.
Joey Tucker visited his fiancée at her workplace after she and Tucker's father made the calls, and police followed him as he left the business.
Officers Jones and Lisa Pascaldo and Highway Patrol Trooper Lawrence Hopper trailed Tucker on city streets and the freeway, according to the complaint.
Hopper "attempted a pit maneuver while Joey was traveling below the speed limit," the complaint states. A pit maneuver involves forcing a pursued vehicle to turn sideways to its direction of travel, immobilizing it.
Hopper's first attempt was unsuccessful, but on his second try he made Joey Tucker's vehicle "spin and collide with a cement barrier as he was traveling on I-80," the complaint states.
"Immediately after Joey's vehicle came to a stop with the vehicle in reverse with Joey sitting there with his hands on the steering wheel surrounded by Officer Jones, Officer Pascadlo, and Trooper Hopper, Officer Jones fired three shots, killing Joey," the complaint states.
"Joey was surrounded and there was nowhere for him to go. According to the dash cam video, it did not show Joey accelerating or putting his vehicle in drive to move his vehicle in an area toward the officers. At no time did any of the other officers or Trooper Hopper shoot out Joey's tires or spike the tires."
The complaint states: "Immediately after hearing Officer Jones discharge his gun in a careless, reckless manner, the only thing you can hear on the dash cam video was Trooper Hopper exclaiming, 'Oh, no! Oh, shit!'
"After the use of unreasonable excessive deadly force, Officer Jones was not terminated or reprimanded by Salt Lake City Corporation. ...
"The dash cam videos reveal that Joey did not take any action, make any threats, or do anything to cause any immediate or [im]minent threat of harm to any of the officers. Joey was simply sitting in his vehicle."
The family seeks punitive damages for wrongful death, loss of consortium and civil rights violations, and medical and funeral expenses.
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You don't point your weapon at anything you don't plan on shooting. Loaded or unloaded. Period.
Basic firearm safety.
^this.
first day (hour) at training..101..
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e-kul is seriously bitter and twisted
take that chip of your shoulder kid
your life will become instantly better
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e-kul is seriously bitter and twisted
take that chip of your shoulder kid
your life will become instantly better
I am not bitter and twisted, I am Outraged, I just choose to see life "as it is" not how I would like it to be. You go on believing in your delusions and lies if it makes "Your life better". What's that old saying "If You Are Not Outraged, You Are Not Paying Attention", this is the problem, most people aren't paying attention.