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Title: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 07:22:36 AM
Your wife gets raped and you will pay for the kid

No FEMA, no alerts or help for things like Hurricane Sandy

Tax breaks for the wealthy, while heroes like the first responders gets fucked..hard

Tax hikes for the middle class to pay for increased military spending

No healthinsurance for people who actually need it


USA, USA....
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 07:29:41 AM
An Obama Preisdency:

8% or higher unemployment for years on end (except the last month before the election)

Credit downgrades

$3-$4/gallon gas for over two years

More people on foodstamps

More people on welfare

High food prices

Billions of dollars pumped into "green" energy business that go belly up

Healthcare premiums SKYROCKETING by over $2000 (and you CAN'T always keep your own doctors)

Taxpayer-funded abortions.

Unlike your silly scenario, Mr ID Crisis, THIS HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA and will get worse in a second term.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Option D on November 02, 2012, 07:43:47 AM
An Obama Preisdency:
8% or higher unemployment for years on end (except the last month before the election)
Credit downgrades
$3-$4/gallon gas for over two years
More people on foodstamps
More people on welfare
High food prices
Billions of dollars pumped into "green" energy business that go belly up
Healthcare premiums SKYROCKETING by over $2000 (and you CAN'T always keep your own doctors)
Taxpayer-funded abortions.
Unlike your silly scenario, Mr ID Crisis, THIS HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA and will get worse in a second term.
lol.. this aint bias at all  ::)... no mention of dead terrorists in there?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 07:51:05 AM
lol.. this aint bias at all  ::)... no mention of dead terrorists in there?


That's right, MCWAY!  The terrorist Obama had killed will eventually decrease unemployment, upgrade USA's credit, lower gas and food prices, get people off food stamps and welfare, make "green" energy businesses come back from the grave and pay taxpayers back, lower healthcare premiums for everyone, and stop taxpayer-funded abortions.  Just give Obama four more years and you'll see.      >:(
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 07:55:06 AM
An Obama presidency:


No new wars started. (1000's of american lives saved)

Killing OBL the man behind 9/11 (something Bush was unable to do despite starting 2 wars causing the death of thousand american soldiers and many more civilians

Saved the autoindustri (something Romney first tried to take credit for and now is lying about)

People with preexisting conditions can get health insurance (thats good news for you Mcway)

No economic crash like during Bush
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 07:56:43 AM
lol.. this aint bias at all  ::)... no mention of dead terrorists in there?


Terrorists are dead....and so is our ambassador and four other people, courtesy of the very group that was supposedly on the run, because of Bin Laden being killed a year and a half ago.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
That's right, MCWAY!  The terrorist Obama had killed will eventually decrease unemployment, upgrade USA's credit, lower gas and food prices, get people off food stamps and welfare, make "green" energy businesses come back from the grave and pay taxpayers back, lower healthcare premiums for everyone, and stop taxpayer-funded abortions.  Just give Obama four more years and you'll see.      >:(

No lets give Romney 4 more years of Bush politics that worked out so well ::)
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 07:59:47 AM
An Obama presidency:


No new wars started. (1000's of american lives saved)

Killing OBL the man behind 9/11 (something Bush was unable to do despite starting 2 wars causing the death of thousand american soldiers and many more civilians

Saved the autoindustri (something Romney first tried to take credit for and now is lying about)

People with preexisting conditions can get health insurance (thats good news for you Mcway)

No economic crash like during Bush

So, remind me why Obama isn't running away with this election again, why his party got pounded in the midterms.


OH, that would be due to the aforementioned items I cited.

BTW, I already have health insurance (have had it for years).

Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 08:02:44 AM
No lets give Romney 4 more years of Bush politics that worked out so well ::)

When was unemployment over 8% under Bush again?

Gas prices were $3-$4/gallon for a few months, NOT FOR OVER TWO YEARS.

Credit downgrade? NOPE!!

In fact, the economic woes of the Bush years were the last two (which just so happen to be when the Dems ran Congress). Coincidence?

Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Option D on November 02, 2012, 08:03:50 AM
When was unemployment over 8% under Bush again?

Gas prices were $3-$4/gallon for a few months, NOT FOR OVER TWO YEARS.

Credit downgrade? NOPE!!

In fact, the economic woes of the Bush years were the last two (which just so happen to be when the Dems ran Congress). Coincidence?



So in your Opinion Bush was a great president that left a great legacy?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
So, remind me why Obama isn't running away with this election again, why his party got pounded in the midterms.


OH, that would be due to the aforementioned items I cited.

BTW, I already have health insurance (have had it for years).




Because people doesnt know shit about the economy just like you

They want the crisis to be fixed in 4 years thats simply not possible

And the president cant fix the economy only stop starting wars etc..


Congratulations about the health insurance how convenient for you. What if you need it someday and they deny it because you have failed to inform them of some condition you were unaware of?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 08:09:00 AM
So in your Opinion Bush was a great president that left a great legacy?

Great is a bit of a stretch. Fairly good would be my assessment. For six of Bush's eight years, the economy was nice (I remember when gas was under $1, in Georgia, where I stayed briefly).

The worst part of the Bush years, as stated earlier, were the last two.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 08:12:09 AM

Because people doesnt know shit about the economy just like you

They want the crisis to be fixed in 4 years thats simply not possible


And the president cant fix the economy only stop starting wars etc..


Congratulations about the health insurance how convenient for you. What if you need it someday and they deny it because you have failed to inform them of some condition you were unaware of?

Obama said he could do it four years and that he should be a one-term president if he doesn't.

Romney pegged him good on the campaign stump:His slogan was "Yes, We Can!; his slogan now is "No, I CAN'T!"

As for your health insurance questioning, I have needed, as has my family, and haven't been denied a thing.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 08:14:30 AM

And the president cant fix the economy only stop starting wars etc..


Congratulations about the health insurance how convenient for you. What if you need it someday and they deny it because you have failed to inform them of some condition you were unaware of?


Obama said he could do it four years and that he should be a one-term president if he doesn't.

Romney pegged him good on the campaign stump:His slogan was "Yes, We Can!; his slogan now is "No, I CAN'T!"

As for your health insurance questioning, I have needed, as has my family, and haven't been denied a thing.

If you wife gets raped one day are you ready to be a step father?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 08:18:15 AM
If you wife gets raped one day are you ready to be a step father?




What kind of stupid question is that? Oh, that would be your ridiculous notion, thinking Romney's going to ban abortion. Ever heard of this thing called ADOPTION?

I don't wish that on anyone (his wife being raped). Of course, people like you seem to be more obsessed with killing children in the womb than feeding or educating them outside the womb.

Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
No lets give Romney 4 more years of Bush politics that worked out so well ::)

Bush?  Why bring up Bush at this point?  Clinton left Bush a big mess, but nobody ever talks about that.  All they talk about is how great the economy was under Clinton and how he left Bush a surplus.  Yeah, right:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

In 2001, right after Bush took office, there was a recession that drove many good companies out of business and left many unemployed.  You gonna blame that on Bush too?  It was the mess Clinton left him.

But the one thing that most contributed to the worse recession since The Great Depression was Clinton's decision not to regulate derivatives, even though he had been warned that his decision would soon leave people in the US and around the world jobless, homeless, hungry, that they would lose their 401K, their savings and that it would be the worst recession since the great depression.  Clinton had a chance to prevent this mess, but he chose to do nothing.  Bush did not get that chance.

Now Obama has had a chance too, four years do regulate derivatives.  But he is still working on some BS law that won't fix anything.  Romney may not do anything about this either.  But Obama had his chance and failed.  It's time to give somebody else a chance.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: 240 is Back on November 02, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
a romney presidency won't be that much different from another 4 years of obama, guys.  It really wont. 

Obamacare is here.  Amnesty is happening.  He'll let crap/trade in too, calling it something else or passing it in pieces. 

the economy IS slowly recovering, but the rest of the world's economies suck right now too.  We'd be at 7.9% UE under mccain right now too.

Things are slowly getting better, and will, no matter who wins. All this "society will collapse if obama wins" or "Romney will destory everything" is just drama queen bullshit.  Not a lot will change.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
lol.. this aint bias at all  ::)... no mention of dead terrorists in there?


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/food-stamp-growth-75x-greater-job-creation_660073.html


YOU AND THE KENYAN MESSIAH = FAIL
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Straw Man on November 02, 2012, 09:49:23 AM
Here's what I expect if Romney wins

1.  A foreign policy more inept the GW Bush and possibly pre-emptive war with Iran
2.  A deficit that explodes because his tax cuts will never produce the growth that he has projected
3.  An attempt to get rid of the mortgage interest deduction or if not then a cap on deductions that will mostly harm the middle class and has zero impact on the top 5% income earners
4.  As a self proclaimed SEVERE conservative we will get severely conservative nominees to all judicial appointments
5.  An attempt to dismantle Fannie, Freddie and FHA which, along with the elimination or restriction of mortgage interest deduction will destroy the real estate market
6.  Trade war with China
7.  Given all of the above he will drive us into a deep recession and most likely exploded the deficit and debt....just like all modern Republican POTUS's have done in the past
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2012, 09:56:25 AM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/big-jump-unemployment-blacks_660067.html

Black UE skyrocketing under O-POFS. 
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Straw Man on November 02, 2012, 10:01:01 AM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/big-jump-unemployment-blacks_660067.html

Black UE skyrocketing under O-POFS. 

what's Romney going to do about that ?

NOTHING
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
what's Romney going to do about that ?

NOTHING

What has Obama done about it? 

MADE IT WORSE! 
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: MCWAY on November 02, 2012, 10:03:51 AM
what's Romney going to do about that ?

NOTHING

Obama was supposed to fix that. He didn't. So why does he deserve to be re-elected, again?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: tu_holmes on November 02, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
When was unemployment over 8% under Bush again?

Gas prices were $3-$4/gallon for a few months, NOT FOR OVER TWO YEARS.

Credit downgrade? NOPE!!

In fact, the economic woes of the Bush years were the last two (which just so happen to be when the Dems ran Congress). Coincidence?



When people talk about the UE under Bush I just want to puke.

If Bush had stayed in office for another 3 fucking months he would have had to deal with that too.

But because he was forced out, he gets a pass? Even though the crash that CAUSED it all happened under his presidency?

Really?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
When people talk about the UE under Bush I just want to puke.

If Bush had stayed in office for another 3 fucking months he would have had to deal with that too.

But because he was forced out, he gets a pass? Even though the crash that CAUSED it all happened under his presidency?

Really?


Everything went off the rails once pelosi and reid took over and bush mailed it in.   Look it up. 
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: tu_holmes on November 02, 2012, 10:32:13 AM

Everything went off the rails once pelosi and reid took over and bush mailed it in.   Look it up. 

That's not true either...

Everything went all the rails because the housing market was destined to collapse after about 2002 when housing prices went sky high.

So no... That's not accurate.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Straw Man on November 02, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Obama was supposed to fix that. He didn't. So why does he deserve to be re-elected, again?

he was supposed to fix black UE ?

I thought he was working on UE for everyone and it's not like Mitt has any plan for UE

His suggestion would be for everyone to borrowr money from their parents and start a business

I'm actually amazed that anyone who listens to what Romeny has said and looks at the fact believes he can do anything

His suggestions (cut taxes, drastically cut spending except for defense of course) will do much more harm than good
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2012, 10:37:21 AM
As opposed to who the govt?  Why should people consider other taxpayers their bank of first resort?

What is with you communist marxists wanting everyone to borrow off the other taxpayers.  Mittens was dead right about that. 

he was supposed to fix black UE ?

I thought he was working on UE for everyone and it's not like Mitt has any plan for UE

His suggestion would be for everyone to borrowr money from their parents and start a business

I'm actually amazed that anyone who listens to what Romeny has said and looks at the fact believes he can do anything

His suggestions (cut taxes, drastically cut spending except for defense of course) will do much more harm than good
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: Straw Man on November 02, 2012, 10:53:53 AM
As opposed to who the govt?  Why should people consider other taxpayers their bank of first resort?

What is with you communist marxists wanting everyone to borrow off the other taxpayers.  Mittens was dead right about that. 


isn't there where you got your school loans and mortgage - weren't they govt guaranteed loans ?
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
Bush?  Why bring up Bush at this point?  Clinton left Bush a big mess, but nobody ever talks about that.  All they talk about is how great the economy was under Clinton and how he left Bush a surplus.  Yeah, right:

"President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

In 2001, right after Bush took office, there was a recession that drove many good companies out of business and left many unemployed.  You gonna blame that on Bush too?  It was the mess Clinton left him.

But the one thing that most contributed to the worse recession since The Great Depression was Clinton's decision not to regulate derivatives, even though he had been warned that his decision would soon leave people in the US and around the world jobless, homeless, hungry, that they would lose their 401K, their savings and that it would be the worst recession since the great depression.  Clinton had a chance to prevent this mess, but he chose to do nothing.  Bush did not get that chance.

Now Obama has had a chance too, four years do regulate derivatives.  But he is still working on some BS law that won't fix anything.  Romney may not do anything about this either.  But Obama had his chance and failed.  It's time to give somebody else a chance.

Lol The (very few honest) dem tried wall st reform but the party who wants to remove wall st oversight is gonna fix it?

They are gonna make it worse
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 12:15:49 PM
Lol The (very few honest) dem tried wall st reform but the party who wants to remove wall st oversight is gonna fix it?

They are gonna make it worse

I did not say Romney is gonna fix it.  I said Clinton and Obama had their shot, and they both blew it.  Time to give somebody else a chance.

If this doesn't get fixed, it doesn't matter if/when the economy recovers.  There will be more frequent and more severe recessions, each worse than the previous one.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: tu_holmes on November 02, 2012, 12:33:02 PM
I did not say Romney is gonna fix it.  I said Clinton and Obama had their shot, and they both blew it.  Time to give somebody else a chance.

If this doesn't get fixed, it doesn't matter if/when the economy recovers.  There will be more frequent and more severe recessions, each worse than the previous one.

Didn't the Republicans have 8 years to try to fix it?

8 years to work on healthcare?

The problem is that when they ARE in charge, they don't seem to do shit with it.

Don't get me wrong, the Dems are fuckups... the fucked up healthcare and they fucked up wall st. reform, but they at least seem to try.

Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 12:46:36 PM
Didn't the Republicans have 8 years to try to fix it?

8 years to work on healthcare?

The problem is that when they ARE in charge, they don't seem to do shit with it.

Don't get me wrong, the Dems are fuckups... the fucked up healthcare and they fucked up wall st. reform, but they at least seem to try.




The Republicans had 8 years to pass laws to regulate derivatives?  When?  Under Bush?  The one person who warned Clinton about the coming great recession because of his decision not to regulate derivatives was told to shut up and she resigned, while Clinton was in office.

The crap didn't hit the fan until the end of Bush's 8 years.  So Clinton had an opportunity to prevent this recession, and Obama has had an opportunity to prevent the next great recession.  Both of them have failed.  Time to give someone else a chance, whether it's Romney or Gary Johnson.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: tu_holmes on November 02, 2012, 12:50:36 PM

The Republicans had 8 years to pass laws to regulate derivatives?  When?  Under Bush?  The one person who warned Clinton about the coming great recession because of his decision not to regulate derivatives was told to shut up and she resigned, while Clinton was in office.

The crap didn't hit the fan until the end of Bush's 8 years.  So Clinton had an opportunity to prevent this recession, and Obama has had an opportunity to prevent the next great recession.  Both of them have failed.  Time to give someone else a chance, whether it's Romney or Gary Johnson.

I support Gary Johnson... That's who I'm voting for.

Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
I support Gary Johnson... That's who I'm voting for.



Gary Johnson's tha man.    ;D
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 01:08:04 PM
I did not say Romney is gonna fix it.  I said Clinton and Obama had their shot, and they both blew it.  Time to give somebody else a chance.

If this doesn't get fixed, it doesn't matter if/when the economy recovers.  There will be more frequent and more severe recessions, each worse than the previous one.

If you cut taxes by 20 and increase military spending you are looking at a meltdown. Throw in a couple of wars and it will be 08 before you know it
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 02, 2012, 02:10:58 PM
If you cut taxes by 20 and increase military spending you are looking at a meltdown. Throw in a couple of wars and it will be 08 before you know it

The derivatives market already proved to be more than capable of bringing down the economy very quickly.  In fact, what happened in 2008 almost happened on Clinton's watch.  But the economy was secretly bailed out by private banks and few people even knew about this at the time.  And it won't be 08 ever again, it will be a lot worse.  Warren Buffett calls derivatives "weapons of mass destruction" for a reason.
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: whork on November 02, 2012, 02:58:08 PM
The derivatives market already proved to be more than capable of bringing down the economy very quickly.  In fact, what happened in 2008 almost happened on Clinton's watch.  But the economy was secretly bailed out by private banks and few people even knew about this at the time.  And it won't be 08 ever again, it will be a lot worse.  Warren Buffett calls derivatives "weapons of mass destruction" for a reason.

Good post
Title: Re: A Romney presidency
Post by: loco on November 07, 2012, 08:03:11 AM
The derivatives market already proved to be more than capable of bringing down the economy very quickly.  In fact, what happened in 2008 almost happened on Clinton's watch.  But the economy was secretly bailed out by private banks and few people even knew about this at the time.  And it won't be 08 ever again, it will be a lot worse.  Warren Buffett calls derivatives "weapons of mass destruction" for a reason.

I wish Obama had lost, but he won and I accept it.  The derivatives market lives on, and recessions will become more frequent and more severe.    :'(