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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
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You stupid bitch.
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
Go away LOSER
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out
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Amazing that an unemployed fake lawyer can talk shit about other people.
:D
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
Hey bitch.. you and I had a Bet.. youre not going to Honor it..
I figured as much.. youre filth.
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LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!!
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bet ???
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bet ???
x 2
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
Adios, PEA BRAIN!
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
Till the bitter end i see...
Question is... you are you gonna follow around Robin?
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Till the bitter end i see...
Question is... you are you gonna follow around Robin?
Haha, weak.
You think this board will be good without 333's posts? I don't. Like him or not, he posted a lot of political threads.
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
Yep. Won't be able to dangle from his balls anymore hoping to pounce upon some trivial detail. Talk about needing suicide watch...lol
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Haha, weak.
You think this board will be good without 333's posts? I don't. Like him or not, he posted a lot of political threads.
100k x 0 = 0
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Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
It will be dead not because of 333 being gone but since the election is over and Romney lost so there isn't much to debate anymore.
333 has nothing to do with it. He spent years of his life making nearly 100k posts and it had zero effect since his hero still lost.
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I like 33 because every single Obama voter had to choose obama -
KNOWING FULL WELL -
That he let the embassy happen, that he delivered serious debt, that he probably was born in Kenya...
33 destroyed that rock star image that obama had in 2008, helped everyone realize the good and bad of 2012, and really made sure everyone knew in 2012 that Obama was a phony.
Now, Repubs didn't lose because obama was awesome, they lost because Romney sucked as a candidate. We can say it now. Romney was the WORST - he wrote obamacare, he signed a gun ban. There is NO way, particularly in the tea party era, that a ROmney shuold have won. It's not even like he had an amazing personality to overcome his weak record. People didn't like him.
I hope 333386 stays... someone needs to let us know how bad the dems suck. I'd hate for this place to 'give in' to the left.
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100k x 0 = 0
There have been some good discussions on this board over the last four years. As it stands, we're going to be left with a schizophrenic gimmick posting comedy central clips over and over.
It will be dead not because of 333 being gone but since the election is over and Romney lost so there isn't much to debate anymore.
333 has nothing to do with it. He spent years of his life making nearly 100k posts and it had zero effect since his hero still lost.
Not really. It was pretty lively over the last four years and there will be plenty to post about.
Or are you one of those people who think things will magically fix themselves because he won re-election?
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Or are you one of those people who think things will magically fix themselves because he won re-election?
X2...That is exactly the type of person he is.
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Someone is in need of new ovaries to attach themselves to since the biggest liar on the board has left.
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Go figure. Maybe bike nut needs a fanboy.
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
true
people expect cars n products to magically appear while penalizing those who maek them more and more
gm shouda went outa biz for making shit and had assets bought by ford
nope
reward cronies
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Aw shucks! Romney loses and 33333 misses 100k posts. It's a dark day. :D
Get your commy uniforms ready. Everything 33333 warned off is going to happen now while OB is playing golf.
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true
people expect cars n products to magically appear while penalizing those who maek them more and more
gm shouda went outa biz for making shit and had assets bought by ford
nope
reward cronies
Ford was in no position to buy anything at the time. They were hurting too. GM would have been bought by Tata or some Chinese company.
The bailout was the right thing to do.
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Ronald Reagan bailed out Chrysler in the 80s.
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Ronald Reagan bailed out Chrysler in the 80s.
And Raised Taxes... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Republicans are so stupid.
Now they are blaming Romney for being too liberal.
Morons.
If you had let him run on his original feelings then he would have been MORE electable. Republicans are ignorant.
Republicans lost on social issues. End of story. They lost because they keep bringing up abortion. They are not very good on immigration. They alienated the gay vote.
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TEN MILLION obama voters form 2008 didn't show up yesterday.
Romney DID Lose it - obama sure didn't win it. Romney underachieved badly the entire campaign.
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Yep. Won't be able to dangle from his balls anymore hoping to pounce upon some trivial detail. Talk about needing suicide watch...lol
SUCK IT LOSER ! Once you go Black you never go back ;D
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TEN MILLION obama voters form 2008 didn't show up yesterday.
Romney DID Lose it - obama sure didn't win it. Romney underachieved badly the entire campaign.
Romney didn`t lose it. The Republicans Party lost it. People are tired of their dinosaur ideas, hatred towards women, failure to protect individual rights and their inability to promote science, reason and facts over religion.
They are worthless for the most part and I don`t understand how any sane individual with at least average intelligence could support any of them at this point. As long as they keep in that direction, they will lose.
If they let Romney be Romney, who really is more or less a moderate democrat, there would have been more of a chance, not much more, but the loss would have been even closer.
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Romney didn`t lose it. The Republicans Party lost it. People are tired of their dinosaur ideas, hatred towards women, failure to protect individual rights and their inability to promote science, reason and facts over religion.
They are worthless for the most part and I don`t understand how any sane individual with at least average intelligence could support any of them at this point. As long as they keep in that direction, they will lose.
If they let Romney be Romney, who really is more or less a moderate democrat, there would have been more of a chance, not much more, but the loss would have been even closer.
Bingo!
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It will be dead not because of 333 being gone but since the election is over and Romney lost so there isn't much to debate anymore.
333 has nothing to do with it. He spent years of his life making nearly 100k posts and it had zero effect since his hero still lost.
His hero? You obviously don't know much then. He thought Romney was horrible.
Most people here were hardly thrilled with Romney, and offered up plenty of candidates that were better. It was obvious the Republicans were a mess, and most thought Romeny didn't have a chance until the data starting trending that way after the first debate. In the last week, it started trending away, and as it turns out, 9% or something did not decide until the last few days.
Independents (me) and many right wingers here hardly considered Romney a hero/messiah. Just thought he was slightly better than the incumbent.
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His hero? You obviously don't know much then. He thought Romney was horrible.
Most people here were hardly thrilled with Romney, and offered up plenty of candidates that were better. It was obvious the Republicans were a mess, and most thought Romeny didn't have a chance until the data starting trending that way after the first debate. In the last week, it started trending away, and as it turns out, 9% or something did not decide until the last few days.
Romney was THE best candidate out of all of them to beat Obama. Nobody else would have done as well.
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Romney was THE best candidate out of all of them to beat Obama. Nobody else would have done as well.
I don't know, to be honest. I occasionally listen to a Conservative talk show host here (Mass) who started a site called "anyonebutMitt" or something to that effect, which stated reasons why he was unelectable. Seems he was right.
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Obama wins!
And there was much rejoicing.
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Republicans are so stupid.
Now they are blaming Romney for being too liberal.
Morons.
If you had let him run on his original feelings then he would have been MORE electable. Republicans are ignorant.
Republicans lost on social issues. End of story. They lost because they keep bringing up abortion. They are not very good on immigration. They alienated the gay vote.
Romney barely touched the social issues, in no small part due to establishment Republicans chiding him not do so. That may have cost him some evangelical voters, especially in Florida and Virginia.
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Romney didn`t lose it. The Republicans Party lost it. People are tired of their dinosaur ideas, hatred towards women, failure to protect individual rights and their inability to promote science, reason and facts over religion.
They are worthless for the most part and I don`t understand how any sane individual with at least average intelligence could support any of them at this point. As long as they keep in that direction, they will lose.
If they let Romney be Romney, who really is more or less a moderate democrat, there would have been more of a chance, not much more, but the loss would have been even closer.
Thread closed
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Romney barely touched the social issues,
He touched on them plenty in the debates - and those videos of him saying he'd de-fund planned parenthood didn't help him.
That shit mattered to women who didn't even use PP!
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Ford was in no position to buy anything at the time. They were hurting too. GM would have been bought by Tata or some Chinese company.
The bailout was the right thing to do.
How was the bailout the right thing to do? GM is heading for bankruptcy again. That money was pissed away because the government cannot run anything correctly.
What's wrong with Tata or a Chinese company buying them? They'd still be around. Fiat didn't kill Chrysler when they bought them.
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Romney was THE best candidate out of all of them to beat Obama. Nobody else would have done as well.
Imagine the outcome if Cain or Bachmann or Frothy had been running against Obama. LOL!!!
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He touched on them plenty in the debates - and those videos of him saying he'd de-fund planned parenthood didn't help him.
That shit mattered to women who didn't even use PP!
Republicans want women to be forced to have a trans-vaginal probe inserted in their vagina if they have to have an abortion so they can be forced to see their fetus, raped or not.
If that isn`t some sick shit, and a violation of privacy not to mention forcing the Government to perform a medical procedure that is unneeded, I don`t know what is. Abortion for anybody is not a fun time, probing and humiliating them more and violating their personal rights is just sick.
This is what Republicans are and this is what the Paul Ryans champion. Its sick.
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Republicans want women to be forced to have a trans-vaginal probe inserted in their vagina if they have to have an abortion so they can be forced to see their fetus, raped or not.
If that isn`t some sick shit, and a violation of privacy not to mention forcing the Government to perform a medical procedure that is unneeded, I don`t know what is. Abortion for anybody is not a fun time, probing and humiliating them more and violating their personal rights is just sick.
This is what Republicans are and this is what the Paul Ryans champion. Its sick.
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Someone is in need of new ovaries to attach themselves to since the biggest liar on the board has left.
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Go figure. Maybe bike nut needs a fanboy.
Are you talking about yourself because it looks like you've made more posts about 333 leaving than you have about Obama winning.
Fucking creepy stalker. :-\
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333, if you indeed don't come back, good luck and God bless, bro.
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How was the bailout the right thing to do? GM is heading for bankruptcy again. That money was pissed away because the government cannot run anything correctly.
What's wrong with Tata or a Chinese company buying them? They'd still be around. Fiat didn't kill Chrysler when they bought them.
Fiat didn't buy all of Chrysler. They bought a percentage of them.
Tata or a Chinese competitor would have bought te entire thing and the corvette would be made in India. It would have been a disaster.
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Republicans are fucking sickos about some things.
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Fiat didn't buy all of Chrysler. They bought a percentage of them.
Tata or a Chinese competitor would have bought te entire thing and the corvette would be made in India. It would have been a disaster.
Fiat owns 52% of Chrysler. They can move production wherever they want and no one can do anything to stop them.
And GM has already started building cars in China so that means what? Also, BMW and Toyota have very successful plants down south (non-unionized, of course) so why wouldn't Fiat move production down there before moving it to China?
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Are you talking about yourself because it looks like you've made more posts about 333 leaving than you have about Obama winning.
Fucking creepy stalker. :-\
Is the #1 Fanboy feeling left behind? It's ok. You will find another piss stain to latch on to.
In the meantime, continue to remain on mommys tit until the drive through shift starts for you.
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Republicans want women to be forced to have a trans-vaginal probe inserted in their vagina if they have to have an abortion so they can be forced to see their fetus, raped or not.
I've never heard of this and do not doubt you've read up on it, but I hardly think this is a widespread belief throughout the party. Just as I don't believe the communist beliefs are rampant with the Dems.
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Is the #1 Fanboy feeling left behind? It's ok. You will find another piss stain to latch on to.
In the meantime, continue to remain on mommys tit until the drive through shift starts for you.
This is comical considering the fact that you follow him around the board like a lost dog and are guaranteed to log 10-15 hours a week doing it.
I hope that my greatest life accomplishment can be following someone around a forum. You go, girl!
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I've never heard of this and do not doubt you've read up on it, but I hardly think this is a widespread belief throughout the party. Just as I don't believe the communist beliefs are rampant with the Dems.
Its State Law in a few states already.
Alabama: State Sen. Clay Scofield offered his own ultrasound measure a few weeks ago, which included a penalty of up to 10 years in jail and a $15,000 fine if doctors don't carry out the procedure. But Schofield backed off component of the bill that would have required doctors to stick a probe in women's vaginas, instead offering that a woman could undergo the "method of ultrasound that she would be more comfortable with."
Idaho: State Sen. Chuck Winder (R-Boise) has introduced yet another bill requiring an ultrasound before an abortion, expanding upon a law already in place in the state that requires doctors to offer an ultrasound by forcing them to do it and to show the woman the image. As one anti-abortion advocate in the state described it to the local press, the idea behind the law is to make women undergo the procedure because it "gives her a window into her womb."
Illinois: The House Agriculture Committee advanced a bill on February 22 that would require doctors to carry out an ultrasound and show it to the woman, unless she declines to view it in writing. And yes, you read that correctly: the "Ultrasound Opportunity Act" came from the agriculture committee. This prompted opponents to show up at the hearing wearing "Women are not livestock" T-shirts.
Kentucky: The state Senate approved a new bill requiring that a woman undergo an ultrasound before she can get an abortion, and instituting criminal penalties if the ultrasound isn't carried out. The bill is is not expected to advance in the House.
North Carolina: This law passed in 2011 was pretty much exactly like Virginia's, but as the local press pointed out, it didn't get nearly as much attention because people weren't talking about the "transvaginal" aspect. A federal judge ruled last October that doctors don't have to show women the ultrasound image, at least.
Pennsylvania: A pair of Republican state representatives introduced the "Women’s Right to Know Act," which passed out of committee last month before the uproar in Virginia prompted the majority leader to shelve it.
Texas: The Lone Star State was ahead of the curve on transvaginal ultrasounds, passing its bill in May 2011 under "emergency" status. A legal challenge to the law failed last month, and it became effective immediately.
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I've never heard of this and do not doubt you've read up on it, but I hardly think this is a widespread belief throughout the party. Just as I don't believe the communist beliefs are rampant with the Dems.
The very Vice-President nominee, Paul Ryan supports all of that shit. He is a sick fuck in my opinion.
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This is comical considering the fact that you follow him around the board like a lost dog and are guaranteed to log 10-15 hours a week doing it.
I hope that my greatest life accomplishment can be following someone around a forum. You go, girl!
You followed him around all day by way of liplock on those ovaries.
Funny how you constantly call 240 a liar and yet sucking the dregs of a skin bag that is known as the biggest liar on the board. Hypocrisy much? Or just stupidity? Doesn't matter though as they haven't made meds yet that help either.
No doubt if the drive thru allowed employees to surf the net you would achieve that life dream of yours.
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Its State Law in a few states already.
Alabama: State Sen. Clay Scofield offered his own ultrasound measure a few weeks ago, which included a penalty of up to 10 years in jail and a $15,000 fine if doctors don't carry out the procedure. But Schofield backed off component of the bill that would have required doctors to stick a probe in women's vaginas, instead offering that a woman could undergo the "method of ultrasound that she would be more comfortable with."
Idaho: State Sen. Chuck Winder (R-Boise) has introduced yet another bill requiring an ultrasound before an abortion, expanding upon a law already in place in the state that requires doctors to offer an ultrasound by forcing them to do it and to show the woman the image. As one anti-abortion advocate in the state described it to the local press, the idea behind the law is to make women undergo the procedure because it "gives her a window into her womb."
Illinois: The House Agriculture Committee advanced a bill on February 22 that would require doctors to carry out an ultrasound and show it to the woman, unless she declines to view it in writing. And yes, you read that correctly: the "Ultrasound Opportunity Act" came from the agriculture committee. This prompted opponents to show up at the hearing wearing "Women are not livestock" T-shirts.
Kentucky: The state Senate approved a new bill requiring that a woman undergo an ultrasound before she can get an abortion, and instituting criminal penalties if the ultrasound isn't carried out. The bill is is not expected to advance in the House.
North Carolina: This law passed in 2011 was pretty much exactly like Virginia's, but as the local press pointed out, it didn't get nearly as much attention because people weren't talking about the "transvaginal" aspect. A federal judge ruled last October that doctors don't have to show women the ultrasound image, at least.
Pennsylvania: A pair of Republican state representatives introduced the "Women’s Right to Know Act," which passed out of committee last month before the uproar in Virginia prompted the majority leader to shelve it.
Texas: The Lone Star State was ahead of the curve on transvaginal ultrasounds, passing its bill in May 2011 under "emergency" status. A legal challenge to the law failed last month, and it became effective immediately.
You'd want Jezebele to get an abortion without the ultrasound? Wouldn't you prefer the doctor takes a quick peak exactly where/how the fetus is situated before he goes shoving instruments up her kid chute?
I've recently heard news that some members of the house are suggesting that patients be required to get an echocardiogram (ultrasound of the heart...) before their heart surgery.
Where will it end??
If your "doctor" intends to suck out your pre-baby WITHOUT taking a peak at things before hand....odds are that his office is also his van.
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You'd want Jezebele to get an abortion without the ultrasound? Wouldn't you prefer the doctor has a look-see at how the fetus is situated before he goes shoving instruments up there?
I've recently heard news that some members of the house are suggesting that patients be required to get an echocardiogram (ultrasound of the heart...) before their heart surgery.
Where will it end??
There is no medical reason to use a Trans Vaginal probe or FORCE BY LAW it to be used on a woman. Its not necessary and the only reason it exists is for further humiliation.
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
I think real question is what are you guys going to do without your fearless leader???
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
No one will miss 333 more than his #1 fanboy
I assumed you were leaving too since you spend your entire life inside his rectum
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Republicans are so stupid.
Now they are blaming Romney for being too liberal.
Morons.
If you had let him run on his original feelings then he would have been MORE electable. Republicans are ignorant.
Republicans lost on social issues. End of story. They lost because they keep bringing up abortion. They are not very good on immigration. They alienated the gay vote.
agreed....guys like Rick Perry and Romney can't be themselves when they run..they have to be beholden to the Tea Party
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Obama wins!
And there was much rejoicing.
haha!
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This is comical considering the fact that you follow him around the board like a lost dog and are guaranteed to log 10-15 hours a week doing it.
I hope that my greatest life accomplishment can be following someone around a forum. You go, girl!
Go hang yourself LOSER :D
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Romney didn`t lose it. The Republicans Party lost it. People are tired of their dinosaur ideas, hatred towards women, failure to protect individual rights and their inability to promote science, reason and facts over religion.
They are worthless for the most part and I don`t understand how any sane individual with at least average intelligence could support any of them at this point. As long as they keep in that direction, they will lose.
If they let Romney be Romney, who really is more or less a moderate democrat, there would have been more of a chance, not much more, but the loss would have been even closer.
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This.....even being a Christian, you simply cannot advance the human race without science and technology. Backwards thinking lost them this race
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No one will miss 333 more than his #1 fanboy
I assumed you were leaving too since you spend your entire life inside his rectum
As you said... every time 333 got kicked in the ovaries, Fairy was right there with the icepack. Frostbitten lips are not a pretty sight.
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There is no medical reason to use a Trans Vaginal probe or FORCE BY LAW it to be used on a woman. Its not necessary and the only reason it exists is for further humiliation.
It's less humiliating to watch the doctor doing that "feeling around" face where he kinda looks off somewhere and moves his lips around as he concentrates on the searching?
That face should be made when you're digging around for something you dropped in some crevice....not by your doctor as he performs a surgical procedure. No legitimate doctor would perform any kind of procedure blindly and most already require an ultrasound anyway.
The problem with ultrasounds is that they are sound waves....and any wave of a given frequency requires the medium it travels through to have a certain density in order to be effective at transmitting information. Ultrasounds provide very clear images when traveling through water....but they can look like shit very quickly otherwise. That has nothing to do with medicine, it is a property of waves that just is. You can get good images if the female has a full bladder....but it's also "uncomfortable" for the female and the images still aren't going to be as good as trans-vaginal.
You also have to deal with the whole "responsibility" issue of trusting that the female will remember to load up her bladder properly before the appointment when she already has a history of not remembering to pop her birth control pill.
It's not the government's job to dictate how medical professionals practice...especially when most of them are absolute retards when it comes to anything science or medical related....but any female who prefers to get a baby sucked out of her body without an ultrasound beforehand should be prepared to handle the complications that are much more likely to arise.
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
333386,
I just checked my front porch and there was no free stuff out there. I thought it would be delivered by UPS by now. Is President Obama going back on his promise to send me a free phone and some birth control pills? Oh that's right, I can't get pregnant anyway. ;D
Had a blast last night at the Democratic election night party. I did get a lot of free drinks and food as thanks for helping with some of the campaigns. We won some and lost a couple. All in all the results were really good. Everyone was in good spirits with big smiles on their faces, unlike the faces of the crowds at the Republican events which were shown on the news. Clearly it is more fun to back a winner than a it is to have supported a loser.
Sorry for you loss, 333386. Better luck next time.
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Any chance the Republicans will drop this abortion bullshit by 2016?
Probably not
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Romney didn`t lose it. The Republicans Party lost it. People are tired of their dinosaur ideas, hatred towards women, failure to protect individual rights and their inability to promote science, reason and facts over religion.
They are worthless for the most part and I don`t understand how any sane individual with at least average intelligence could support any of them at this point. As long as they keep in that direction, they will lose.
If they let Romney be Romney, who really is more or less a moderate democrat, there would have been more of a chance, not much more, but the loss would have been even closer.
You have this right. What is more, these results are a real blow to the "tea party" folks. Of course it is hard to win votes when your head is stuck up your ass. :)
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It's less humiliating to watch the doctor doing that "feeling around" face where he kinda looks off somewhere and moves his lips around as he concentrates on the searching?
That face should be made when you're digging around for something you dropped in some crevice....not by your doctor as he performs a surgical procedure. No legitimate doctor would perform any kind of procedure blindly and most already require an ultrasound anyway.
The problem with ultrasounds is that they are sound waves....and any wave of a given frequency requires the medium it travels through to have a certain density in order to be effective at transmitting information. Ultrasounds provide very clear images when traveling through water....but they can look like shit very quickly otherwise. That has nothing to do with medicine, it is a property of waves that just is. You can get good images if the female has a full bladder....but it's also "uncomfortable" for the female and the images still aren't going to be as good as trans-vaginal.
You also have to deal with the whole "responsibility" issue of trusting that the female will remember to load up her bladder properly before the appointment when she already has a history of not remembering to pop her birth control pill.
It's not the government's job to dictate how medical professionals practice...especially when most of them are absolute retards when it comes to anything science or medical related....but any female who prefers to get a baby sucked out of her body without an ultrasound beforehand should be prepared to handle the complications that are much more likely to arise.
Ultrasounds do not require vaginal penetration.
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Ultrasounds do not require vaginal penetration.
No, but abortions do.
What you're missing here is that I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact that it isn't the government's role to require the ultrasound's.
The difference between you and I is that I'm against it because I don't believe it is the role of government to decide how medical doctors should care for their patients (the untrained aren't qualified to tell the trained how to best perform their skill), while you are against it because you don't like this particular decision by the government.
You aren't against the government deciding what we can and cannot do because they "know what's best for us." You are only against the government deciding what is "best for us" when you don't agree with their decision...which is no different than than the "slimeballs" on the right who agree with the government on the ultrasound issue.
You're no different than the ignorant fools on the right, you just wear a different dunce cap. In the end, you both follow the mantra of being FOR intrusive government when you don't mind the intrusion...and AGAINST an intrusive government when you don't like the intrusion. You both use the same childish logic of thinking it's okay if the government dictates what you do...when you want to do it the way they say...because, I don't mind being forced to do X since I already do X anyway....therefore it's fine if no one is allowed to do Y.
Plus...when the government intrudes in the way you want it to you get to gloat to the other guy about how smart you are because you agree with the new intrusion...because the other side disagrees, which makes them dumb.
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No, but abortions do.
lol
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No, but abortions do.
No they dont
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No they dont
Surely they do?
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Surely they do?
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You eat a pill
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You eat a pill
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I honestly don't understand why Abortion is such a huge issue one way or the other.
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You eat a pill
Does the pill eat the fetus?
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Does the pill eat the fetus?
No the fetus comes out by itself when its dead(from the pill)
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No the fetus comes out by itself when its dead(from the pill)
How big is said fetus?
I know they don't just "fall out" during birth....but I'm assuming they only get too big to slide-through "by itself" during those last couple of days, right?
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I honestly don't understand why Abortion is such a huge issue one way or the other.
Because you could be stuck with something you do not want for the rest of your life which could be your complete ruination. That certainly is not the only reason. If you truly believe in personal freedom and liberty, a woman should have the right to do with her body whatever she wants.
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SUCK IT LOSER ! Once you go Black you never go back ;D
Wow...it has been five years...I have missed your posts...I liked your aggressive responses to neocons.
hope to hear more from you.
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How big is said fetus?
I know they don't just "fall out" during birth....but I'm assuming they only get too big to slide-through "by itself" during those last couple of days, right?
Of course if you wait 9 months before you get an abortion its gonna be complicated
The fetus will fall out when it dies(after a little time of course)
It happens naturally all the time
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Because you could be stuck with something you do not want for the rest of your life which could be your complete ruination. That certainly is not the only reason. If you truly believe in personal freedom and liberty, a woman should have the right to do with her body whatever she wants.
Except if that woman is the doctor....then she must give a high percentage of her newly found (and hard earned) income in taxes so that the ignorant sluts who can't remember to pop a pill each morning can be certain to get cheap abortions from a doctor who has to "go in blind," lest the loose-lipped-leech be "embarrassed" by an ultrasound beforehand.
Of course, if said doctor f's anything up because the surface ultrasound sucked and the slut didn't have a full bladder....she can look forward to the malpractice suit that's sure to follow!
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Of course if you wait 9 months before you get an abortion its gonna be complicated
The fetus will fall out when it dies(after a little time of course)
It happens naturally all the time
Ask any woman who's miscarried on her first pregnancy after as little as 3-4 months (before she's even really begun to "show") how her baby "fell out."
I'll give you a hint....it doesn't take very long at all before they stop just "falling out" and become something that must be "birthed" in a decidedly uncomfortable manner for the woman.
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Ask any woman who's miscarried on her first pregnancy after as little as 3-4 months (before she's even really begun to "show") how her baby "fell out."
I'll give you a hint....it doesn't take very long at all before they stop just "falling out" and become something that must be "birthed" in a decidedly uncomfortable manner for the woman.
I guess this is an excellent reason for a women to make the decision to abort as early in the pregnancy as possible....such as taking "the morning after pill".
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I guess this is an excellent reason for a women to make the decision to abort as early in the pregnancy as possible....such as taking "the morning after pill".
the morning after pill is contraception and not an abortion pill
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the morning after pill is contraception and not an abortion pill
You are not telling me something I didn't already know. The point I was making is that it is far better and healthier for women to prevent pregnancies in the first place then to have to abort the fetus later on.
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Because you could be stuck with something you do not want for the rest of your life which could be your complete ruination. That certainly is not the only reason. If you truly believe in personal freedom and liberty, a woman should have the right to do with her body whatever she wants.
I understand that, and I realize that Abortion caused crime rates to plummet in the 90's. I'm okay with abortion.
I just don't understand why people go ape shit like their "rights" are being taken from them. Who the fuck plans on needing an abortion. These pro-choice lunatics act like abortion will affect them. Who the fuck gets an abortion? Fucking trash?
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You are not telling me something I didn't already know. The point I was making is that it is far better and healthier for women to prevent pregnancies in the first place then to have to abort the fetus later on.
fair enough
I just see people on this board refer to the morning after pill as an abortion pill and it always bugs me
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I understand that, and I realize that Abortion caused crime rates to plummet in the 90's. I'm okay with abortion.
I just don't understand why people go ape shit like their "rights" are being taken from them. Who the fuck plans on needing an abortion. These pro-choice lunatics act like abortion will affect them. Who the fuck gets an abortion? Fucking trash?
Nobody ever plans on abortion and ALL WALKS of life have them. I have known many girls from wealthy families that have had them.
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Nobody ever plans on abortion and ALL WALKS of life have them. I have known many girls from wealthy families that have had them.
Hmmm... Maybe I'm just naive.
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Hmmm... Maybe I'm just naive.
It happens a lot more than you can imagine. Years ago, My Financial Advisor`s son, whose parents are Catholic and Republican, had to have two of them and he could not go to his parents with this information or ask them for money. Instead, he came to my mom who gladly gave him the money each time.
One was an orthodontists daughter and ones parents own a furniture company.
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Nobody ever plans on abortion and ALL WALKS of life have them. I have known many girls from wealthy families that have had them.
Correct. They're all whores™
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Correct. They're all whores™
Not at all.
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I understand that, and I realize that Abortion caused crime rates to plummet in the 90's. I'm okay with abortion.
I just don't understand why people go ape shit like their "rights" are being taken from them. Who the fuck plans on needing an abortion. These pro-choice lunatics act like abortion will affect them. Who the fuck gets an abortion? Fucking trash?
I believe you are stereotyping women who have an abortion. There are many reasons why someone would get an abortion.
The Catholic church does not condone abortion even when continuing a pregnancy threatens the mother's life.
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I believe you are stereotyping women who have an abortion. There are many reasons why someone would get an abortion.
The Catholic church does not condone abortion even when continuing a pregnancy threatens the mother's life.
There's only ONE reason why someone would get an abortion; that would be to end a pregnancy.
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I always wondered why a bank would offer a free toaster, beach blanket, or sports jersey if you signed up for their credit card or filled out some question form.
Now I know why. People are suckers and dupes at the thought of getting free stuff while not realizing nothing in life is free and in fact probably costs more than if you just paid for it out of pocket. Same is true for Obama voters. You sold your freedom for a free phone and birth control.
The parasites have overtaken the host.
THE LOSER is online here and no doubt dying to post.
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I believe you are stereotyping women who have an abortion. There are many reasons why someone would get an abortion.
The Catholic church does not condone abortion even when continuing a pregnancy threatens the mother's life.
The vast vast vast majority elective...there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy that will make abortion irrelevant as there isnt a pregnancy to begin with.
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It happens a lot more than you can imagine. Years ago, My Financial Advisor`s son, whose parents are Catholic and Republican, had to have two of them and he could not go to his parents with this information or ask them for money. Instead, he came to my mom who gladly gave him the money each time.
One was an orthodontists daughter and ones parents own a furniture company.
I understand that whores come from all socioeconomic backgrounds.
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The vast vast vast majority elective...there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy that will make abortion irrelevant as there isnt a pregnancy to begin with.
hopefully they were all elective
Do we have forced abortions in the US ?
I'm interested in hearing about the ways of preventing pregnancy that WILL make abortion irrelevent
have you discovered a form of time travel ?
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hopefully they were all elective
Do we have forced abortions in the US ?
I'm interested in hearing about the ways of preventing pregnancy that WILL make abortion irrelevent
have you discovered a form of time travel ?
elective as in not for medical reasons...I didnt think I needed to explain that but I forget about the leader of the liberal goof troop
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Haha, what are all these stalkers going to do without you 333? Talk politics? I doubt it as they haven't done it for 4+ years now.
Like 333 or not, this board will be dead without his posts.
Death looks appealing on ocassion
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elective as in not for medical reasons...I didnt think I needed to explain that but I forget about the leader of the liberal goof troop
ok so only abortions for Tony approved medical reasons ? (I'm joking)
what are the acceptable medical reasons again and also what are these ways of preventing pregnancy that will make abortion irrelevent
It sounds like we're on the verge of some huge news here
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The vast vast vast majority elective...there are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy that will make abortion irrelevant as there isnt a pregnancy to begin with.
I completely agree that prevention is better than an abortion. However, look at the demographic that is having unwanted babies.
Demographic Disparities
• Unintended pregnancy rates are highest among poor and low-income women, women aged 18–24, cohabiting women and minority women.
• The rate of unintended pregnancy among poor women (those with incomes at or below the federal poverty level) in 2006 was 132 per 1,000 women aged 15–44, more than five times the rate among women at the highest income level (24 per 1,000).
• Poor women’s high rate of unintended pregnancy results in their also having high rates of both abortions (52 per 1,000) and unplanned births (66 per 1,000). In 2006, poor women had an unintended birth rate six times as high as that of higher-income women.
• In 2006, black women had the highest unintended pregnancy rate of any racial or ethnic groups. At 91 per 1,000 women aged 15–44, it was more than double that of non-Hispanic white women (36 per 1,000).
• In 2006, women without a high school degree had the highest unintended pregnancy rate among all educational levels (80 per 1,000 women aged 15–44), and rates decreased as years of education attained increased.
• Some groups—including higher-income women, white women, college graduates and married women—are comparatively successful at timing and spacing their pregnancies. For example, higher-income white women experience unintended pregnancy at one-third the national rate (17 vs. 52 per 1,000).
• The proportion of pregnancies that are unintended generally decreases as age increases. The highest unintended pregnancy rate in 2006 was among women aged 20–24 (107 per 1,000 women).
• Traditional estimates understate the extent to which sexually active teens experience unintended pregnancies, because they typically include all women, whether or not they are sexually active. While most older women are sexually active, many teens are not. The unintended pregnancy rate among only those teens who are sexually active is more than twice the rate among all women.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Unintended-Pregnancy-US.html
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I like 33 because every single Obama voter had to choose obama -
KNOWING FULL WELL -
That he let the embassy happen, that he delivered serious debt, that he probably was born in Kenya...
33 destroyed that rock star image that obama had in 2008, helped everyone realize the good and bad of 2012, and really made sure everyone knew in 2012 that Obama was a phony.
Now, Repubs didn't lose because obama was awesome, they lost because Romney sucked as a candidate. We can say it now. Romney was the WORST - he wrote obamacare, he signed a gun ban. There is NO way, particularly in the tea party era, that a ROmney shuold have won. It's not even like he had an amazing personality to overcome his weak record. People didn't like him.
I hope 333386 stays... someone needs to let us know how bad the dems suck. I'd hate for this place to 'give in' to the left.
You can be his successor. Your quite the douche yourself.
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I completely agree that prevention is better than an abortion. However, look at the demographic that is having unwanted babies.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Unintended-Pregnancy-US.html
I dont get your point prime, we all know that abortions are higher in poor minority communities...
LOL at "unintended" pregnancy...WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
you mean having sex without protection and the guy nutting in you causes pregnancy?
WHO FUCKING KNEW???
Id be ok with elective abortion if the retards get sterlized after
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I dont get your point prime, we all know that abortions are higher in poor minority communities...
LOL at "unintended" pregnancy...WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
you mean having sex without protection and the guy nutting in you causes pregnancy?
WHO FUCKING KNEW???
Id be ok with elective abortion if the retards get sterlized after
So intention is the issue for you?
If someone used contraception and still got pregnant then Tony's rules would allow them to choose an elective abortion/
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As you said... every time 333 got kicked in the ovaries, Fairy was right there with the icepack. Frostbitten lips are not a pretty sight.
:D :D :D
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I dont get your point prime, we all know that abortions are higher in poor minority communities...
LOL at "unintended" pregnancy...WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
you mean having sex without protection and the guy nutting in you causes pregnancy?
WHO FUCKING KNEW???
Id be ok with elective abortion if the retards get sterlized after
Women should insist on protection or use protection if they don't want to get pregnant or cannot afford to raise a child. However, men should take equal responsibility. If a man doesn't want or cannot afford a child, they should make sure if the woman isn't using birth control that they use protection. Of course, to look at pregnancy in this practical way, both parties would have to be intelligent and mature acting people regardless of their age. Apparently from the statistics, maturity, income and intelligence does count when it comes to unintended pregnancies.
The truth is, I have little personal experience with this matter. My wife wanted 5 children and we had 2 for a number of reasons. Both of our children were planned and wanted. Our children, when they became adults and were settled in their marriages, had children which they wanted and which were planned. I do have one niece who has four children and who has never been married. She lives in public housing, gets public assistance and occasionally finds some work that doesn't pay well. She was nine months pregnant with her first child when she graduated high school many years ago. That child is fifteen years old today. When she was turning 30, she complained that she hadn't had the chance to really live and enjoy life yet. That was her choice.
Many people who argue against abortion also complain about welfare recipients who are often unwed mothers. In our welfare systems around the country, having children is something of a plus if you are unskilled and unable to find work that pays a living wage because with children qualifying for public assistance is easier. I don't like supporting others who made poor decisions anymore than the next person. What bothers me more is seeing children who were not wanted in the first place, being abused by their parents. There are often horror stories in the news about some child that was abused by demented parents or step parents. This breaks my heart. Children are precious. Many people who have children as a result of unintended pregnancies seem to fail to realize this.
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100k x 0 = 0
LMAO. This may be out of reach for him chimps. ;D
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I have to say, it was 333 that made me aware of what a slime Holder is. Worst ever, next to Gonzalez.
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Women should insist on protection or use protection if they don't want to get pregnant or cannot afford to raise a child. However, men should take equal responsibility. If a man doesn't want or cannot afford a child, they should make sure if the woman isn't using birth control that they use protection. Of course, to look at pregnancy in this practical way, both parties would have to be intelligent and mature acting people regardless of their age. Apparently from the statistics, maturity, income and intelligence does count when it comes to unintended pregnancies.
The truth is, I have little personal experience with this matter. My wife wanted 5 children and we had 2 for a number of reasons. Both of our children were planned and wanted. Our children, when they became adults and were settled in their marriages, had children which they wanted and which were planned. I do have one niece who has four children and who has never been married. She lives in public housing, gets public assistance and occasionally finds some work that doesn't pay well. She was nine months pregnant with her first child when she graduated high school many years ago. That child is fifteen years old today. When she was turning 30, she complained that she hadn't had the chance to really live and enjoy life yet. That was her choice.
Many people who argue against abortion also complain about welfare recipients who are often unwed mothers. In our welfare systems around the country, having children is something of a plus if you are unskilled and unable to find work that pays a living wage because with children qualifying for public assistance is easier. I don't like supporting others who made poor decisions anymore than the next person. What bothers me more is seeing children who were not wanted in the first place, being abused by their parents. There are often horror stories in the news about some child that was abused by demented parents or step parents. This breaks my heart. Children are precious. Many people who have children as a result of unintended pregnancies seem to fail to realize this.
You're assuming that unintended pregnancies result in abused or neglected children. I'm not sure the numbers support that kind of assumption.
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You're assuming that unintended pregnancies result in abused or neglected children. I'm not sure the numbers support that kind of assumption.
I don't know if the numbers support this either. But it might be possible to find out. I do know from first hand experience that not all children born as a result of unintended pregnancies are abused or neglected.
I mentioned my niece in an earlier post. Her oldest child was raised primarily by his grandparents, who have not abused him. My niece and the father of her other three children, along with the grandparents have all been responsible for caring for them. When I have been around my niece's younger boys, they seem to be somewhat wild acting and perhaps spoiled, but there is no indication they are being abused or neglected.
It takes maturity and dedication to be a good parent. Logically speaking, most teenagers who have children lack the maturity to be good parents. It cost money to raise a child, people with low incomes are bound to face some difficulties providing for their children's needs. A good parent devotes considerable time raising a child. When a person must cobble together several low paying jobs to make ends meet, this can impact a parent's ability to devote much time to bringing up and caring for their children. Of course not having enough time, being mature or having the funds necessary to fully care for a child does not necessarily result in neglect or abuse.
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I don't know if the numbers support this either. But it might be possible to find out. I do know from first hand experience that not all children born as a result of unintended pregnancies are abused or neglected.
I mentioned my niece in an earlier post. Her oldest child was raised primarily by his grandparents, who have not abused him. My niece and the father of her other three children, along with the grandparents have all been responsible for caring for them. When I have been around my niece's younger boys, they seem to be somewhat wild acting and perhaps spoiled, but there is no indication they are being abused or neglected.
It takes maturity and dedication to be a good parent. Logically speaking, most teenagers who have children lack the maturity to be good parents. It cost money to raise a child, people with low incomes are bound to face some difficulties providing for their children's needs. A good parent devotes considerable time raising a child. When a person must cobble together several low paying jobs to make ends meet, this can impact a parent's ability to devote much time to bringing up and caring for their children. Of course not having enough time, being mature or having the funds necessary to fully care for a child does not necessarily result in neglect or abuse.
Well said. I agree.
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Here is what Wikipedia reports as the causes of child abuse:
Child abuse is a complex phenomenon with multiple causes. Understanding the causes of abuse is crucial to addressing the problem of child abuse. Parents who physically abuse their spouses are more likely than others to physically abuse their children. However, it is impossible to know whether marital strife is a cause of child abuse, or if both the marital strife and the abuse are caused by tendencies in the abuser.
Children resulting from unintended pregnancies are more likely to be abused or neglected. In addition, unintended pregnancies are more likely than intended pregnancies to be associated with abusive relationships, and there is an increased risk of physical violence during pregnancy. They also result in poorer maternal mental health, and lower mother-child relationship quality.
Substance abuse can be a major contributing factor to child abuse. One U.S. study found that parents with documented substance abuse, most commonly alcohol, cocaine, and heroin, were much more likely to mistreat their children, and were also much more likely to reject court-ordered services and treatments. Another study found that over two-thirds of cases of child maltreatment involved parents with substance abuse problems. This study specifically found relationships between alcohol and physical abuse, and between cocaine and sexual abuse.
Unemployment and financial difficulties are associated with increased rates of child abuse. In 2009 CBS News reported that child abuse in the United States had increased during the economic recession. It gave the example of a father who had never been the primary care-taker of the children. Now that the father was in that role, the children began to come in with injuries.
A 1988 study of child murders in the US found that children are 100 times more often killed by a "non-biological parent (e.g. step-parent, co-habitee or boyfriend/girlfriend of a biological parent)" than by a biological parent. An evolutionary psychology explanation for this is that using resources in order to take care of another person's biological child is likely not a good strategy for increasing reproductive success. More generally, stepchildren have a much higher risk of being abused which is sometimes referred to as the Cinderella effect.
Psychologists conducted a study in the United States in 2010 which examined over 200 regular church attendees from eleven different denominations of Christianity, most of whom were educated, upper-middle class White Americans, found that extrinsic religious orientation was associated with a greater risk of physical child abuse. Those with a more extrinsic religious orientation who also adhered to greater social conformity were particularly more likely to share characteristics with physically abusive subjects. Subjects who adhered to Biblical literalism exhibited a higher potential of physical child abuse. Those who had a more intrinsic religious orientation were not found to be at a greater risk of child abuse, although they sometimes exhibited greater social conformity or a greater propensity for holding literal interpretations of the Bible. Approximately 85% of the study's subjects were parents.
I included all the factors suggested as contributing to child neglect and child abuse because clearly there are many causes besides unintended pregnancies. However, unintended pregnancies and some of the other common factors, which are in bold type, do seem to go hand in hand.
Some people might have viewed my childhood as one where I was abused and maybe neglected. I was not the result of an unintended pregnancy. My parents were mostly financially sound. My mother was a stay-at-home mom, for the most part.
Both my biological parents were substance abusers. My parents separated when I was 4 years old. My father was unemotional and remote to me during the short time I spent with him. My mother was often physically and emotionally abusive to others, including me. However, I certainly did not suffer the worst abuse she could dole out. She reserved that for my stepfather.
Unlike my stepfather, I fought back when she was abusive to me, by blocking her punches and slaps and yelling right back at her when she was being verbally abusive to me. I vacated this abusive/dysfunctional household when I was 16 years old. Fortunately, I also had many very positive experiences growing up which I prefer to recall and which certainly helped shape my good life as an adult.