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Title: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: blacken700 on November 13, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
I think that there was a period of time when the Romney campaign was falling apart, people were not optimistic, nobody thought there was a chance of victory and I felt that it was my duty at that point to go out and say what I said."
 
-- Dick Morris, in an interview on Fox News, explaining why he predicted a landslide for Mitt Romney in the presidential election.
 
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/13/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 13, 2012, 02:17:47 PM
geez.   Morris needs to fng take a hike 
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
geez.   Morris needs to fng take a hike 

says the sucker who no doubt believed every word this idiot said
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Archer77 on November 13, 2012, 02:38:59 PM
It's the Noble Lie in practice.  Look it up!  Glad your back, 3333.  We may disagree 90% of the time but the place isn't the same without you.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2012, 05:56:58 PM
I think that there was a period of time when the Romney campaign was falling apart, people were not optimistic, nobody thought there was a chance of victory and I felt that it was my duty at that point to go out and say what I said."
 
-- Dick Morris, in an interview on Fox News, explaining why he predicted a landslide for Mitt Romney in the presidential election.
 
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/13/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html




fuck him.  fuck him twice. 

FOX news needs to take him off the air if he is admitting his only role was to get on the air and tell lies for a political agenda.

i'm serious - this is just embarassing - i love fox and haven't said this in 8+ years, but they need to stop giving him his platform.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Archer77 on November 13, 2012, 06:33:14 PM


fuck him.  fuck him twice. 

FOX news needs to take him off the air if he is admitting his only role was to get on the air and tell lies for a political agenda.

i'm serious - this is just embarassing - i love fox and haven't said this in 8+ years, but they need to stop giving him his platform.

They are going to keep giving him a platform because he tells Fox and its audience what they want to hear.   
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2012, 06:44:31 PM
They are going to keep giving him a platform because he tells Fox and its audience what they want to hear.   

he knew the numbers were false, and because of people like him, getbiggers looked fcking stupid.

EVERY SINGLE TIME they want to quote him again, they have to think of how shellshocked they were on election night.

Every time they want to re-post his column or appearance, ,they have to remember he outright lied to them because the news was bad.

anyone who quotes him - they might as well be quoting their favorite hasselhoff movie as fact. 
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Archer77 on November 13, 2012, 06:56:22 PM
he knew the numbers were false, and because of people like him, getbiggers looked fcking stupid.

EVERY SINGLE TIME they want to quote him again, they have to think of how shellshocked they were on election night.

Every time they want to re-post his column or appearance, ,they have to remember he outright lied to them because the news was bad.

anyone who quotes him - they might as well be quoting their favorite hasselhoff movie as fact. 

Fox will fall back on the voter suppression/conspiracy theory angle before they admit they were duped.   I don't doubt there were a lot of people at Fox who knew Big Dick was lying or at least utterly wrong but chose to keep bringing him on to rally the troops and keep people tuned in.  It's pretty obvious Rove wasn't one those as it is plainly obvious he genuinely thought Romney would win.   On the other hand, Morris would be a pretty convenient scapegoat for Fox to blame their totally inept election coverage on. 


Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 02:00:15 AM
They are going to keep giving him a platform because he tells Fox and its audience what they want to hear.   

He tells 33.... and others what they want to hear
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 03:32:36 AM


fuck him.  fuck him twice. 

FOX news needs to take him off the air if he is admitting his only role was to get on the air and tell lies for a political agenda.

i'm serious - this is just embarassing - i love fox and haven't said this in 8+ years, but they need to stop giving him his platform.

Lies IS FOX political agenda
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: chadstallion on November 14, 2012, 06:12:11 AM
Lies IS FOX political agenda
conservative entertainment complex headquarters.
love the David Frum.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: andreisdaman on November 14, 2012, 06:22:04 AM
They are going to keep giving him a platform because he tells Fox and its audience what they want to hear.  

Dick Morris is the ultimate prostitute...literally.. will say anything for a paycheck..will bend over for you as well if you like
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: GigantorX on November 14, 2012, 07:00:13 AM
All "News" outlets are entertainment. Listen to Wolf Blitzer just before CNN goes to break, he will always say something outrageous so you'll tune in to hear it after the commercial break. Fox News is the red herring, no network is a real news network in this day and age.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: whork on November 14, 2012, 01:29:41 PM
All "News" outlets are entertainment. Listen to Wolf Blitzer just before CNN goes to break, he will always say something outrageous so you'll tune in to hear it after the commercial break. Fox News is the red herring, no network is a real news network in this day and age.

WTF are you talking about no other network faked their polls.

Stop supporting lies because makes it you feel better Karl Rove
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: tbombz on November 14, 2012, 01:33:34 PM
What a horrible strategy.  Voter turnout is based largely on people thinking their vote could be necessary in order for their preferred candidate to win.  If they think their hit has it wrapped up, they are more likely to spend their time doing something other than voting.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2012, 01:33:59 PM
says the sucker who no doubt believed every word this idiot said

hahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: blacken700 on November 14, 2012, 01:47:48 PM
says the sucker who no doubt believed every word this idiot said


he wasn't the only one there were quite a few on here that believed the bull shit
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: GigantorX on November 14, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
WTF are you talking about no other network faked their polls.

Stop supporting lies because makes it you feel better Karl Rove

You're an idiot.

I read the link and I'm not seeing anything about "faking their polls."
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: whork on November 15, 2012, 01:40:42 AM
You're an idiot.

I read the link and I'm not seeing anything about "faking their polls."

No Rasmussen and Gallup and FOX info was right on the money thats why a republican president now.

You are the idiot.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 03:13:51 AM
You're an idiot.

I read the link and I'm not seeing anything about "faking their polls."

rass and gallup - either they faked their polls, or they abandoned the methods that made them so accurate in the past.

They're either shady and happy to fudge numbers so people use them (my suspicion), or they're getting worse at a field where others are improving.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: chadstallion on November 15, 2012, 06:14:46 AM
rass and gallup - either they faked their polls, or they abandoned the methods that made them so accurate in the past.

They're either shady and happy to fudge numbers so people use them (my suspicion), or they're getting worse at a field where others are improving.
great point. thank you !
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: GigantorX on November 15, 2012, 07:32:50 AM
No Rasmussen and Gallup and FOX info was right on the money thats why a republican president now.

You are the idiot.

Your post makes little sense.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2012, 07:51:32 AM
I'm confused.. Why wouldn't he lie? There is no penalty. No one cares. They all lie. Each party has liars and 49% believe them and 51% don't depending on which party it is doing the lying. American people stopped holding their politicians accountable years ago. What you don't put a stop to, you condone. 
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 08:55:52 AM
I think rass' #1 goal is NOT to be the most accurate model.

Rather, their goal is to be the #1 polling source in 2014, 2016, and beyond, with republican viewers.

It's not the most sustainable model, BUT if rass had matched nate silvers's highly accurate data 100%, then FOX would have stopped referring to them, because their viewers would have been turning off the television, and gallup or unskewered or whoever would have been the FOX choice, the choice of drudge, etc.

I'm betting rass is getting their narratiive ready, who they can blame, for the 2012 errors... maybe it'll be their field guys, maybe it'll be "left wing media numbers pulling" or something vague like that haha.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: GigantorX on November 15, 2012, 09:17:36 AM
I don't think the polling numbers should be available to the public. Only the campaigns so this shit doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 09:22:29 AM
I don't think the polling numbers should be available to the public. Only the campaigns so this shit doesn't happen.

yeah, but you know how it would be, the campaigns 'accidentally' leaking it.

And we can't forget - the last TWO elections, drudge has those 'last minute insider polling numbers showing it was tied""

And people believed it in 2012 after it ended up being a complete lie in 2008.  And in 2016, people will believe it again.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: GigantorX on November 15, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
yeah, but you know how it would be, the campaigns 'accidentally' leaking it.

And we can't forget - the last TWO elections, drudge has those 'last minute insider polling numbers showing it was tied""

And people believed it in 2012 after it ended up being a complete lie in 2008.  And in 2016, people will believe it again.

This is all a part of the entertainment complex and this stuff doesn't shock me.

Pollsters, "Fact Checkers" and the like are the talking heads on ESPN discussing a team or a game.
Title: Re: Dick Morris Admits he made stuff up to lift GOP morale
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 11:01:37 AM
This is all a part of the entertainment complex and this stuff doesn't shock me.

Pollsters, "Fact Checkers" and the like are the talking heads on ESPN discussing a team or a game.

I love that analogy - BUT - the ESPN pundits actually use the same accurate data (game stats, etc), AND they actually admit when this of that team has a highly rated passing defense or a sorry running games.

Sports fans will readily admit their team's QB sucks or their WR's can't catch a cold.  Political fans can't admit their guy is a flipflopper, etc.
Sports fans are WAY more honest!