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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on November 21, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
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Before I opened the thread I knew it wouldn't be a back pose. ;)
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Before I opened the thread I knew it wouldn't be a back pose. ;)
;D, I thought the same thing. I looked at the poster, knew it would be about Nassole vs. Dorian. Knew it wouldn't be a back pose but this I havenonameforit pose...lol
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Sure Sheriff Salami, but you will never look like your idol Nascar El Somebody.
He is/was massive, you're not.
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Before I opened the thread I knew it wouldn't be a back pose. ;)
sure dorian at his best had the best back ever..
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Sure Sheriff Salami, but you will never look like your idol Nascar El Somebody.
He is/was massive, you're not.
i never wanted to look like him or like any pro. bb.. i am satisfied with my physique as it's..
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Dorian is 'dense' and shows 'dryness'.
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Dorian is 'dense' and shows 'dryness'.
nasser was denser, thicker, bigger and shows the same dryness from the front..
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Sure Sheriff Salami, but you will never look like your idol Nascar El Somebody.
He is/was massive, you're not.
Both are just regular average walking around at 150 guys. Nothing special at all. It is totally a response to drugs. instead of thanking god these guys should thank the pharmaceutical companies
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Both are just regular average walking around at 150 guys. Nothing special at all. It is totally a response to drugs. instead of thanking god these guys should thank the pharmaceutical companies
Back when we didn't know anything about drugs (when we were young and just starting out in the 80s), one might even believe it to be an allergic reaction ie a response to wasp stings/blowfish! :D
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Back when we didn't know anything about drugs (when we were young and just starting out in the 80s), one might even believe it to be an allergic reaction ie a response to wasp stings/blowfish! :D
Lol, you've heard about mick jagger?
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Both are just regular average walking around at 150 guys. Nothing special at all. It is totally a response to drugs. instead of thanking god these guys should thank the pharmaceutical companies
i agree with you in general but still guys like dorian and nasser have some of the best genetics to build muscles and to respond to these drugs.. at least 90% of ppl cant achieve this size and shape even with the same drugs these guys were taking..
i agree with "drugs is the final touch"_ when we talk about pro. bbs because all of them can take the same drugs so what makes one better than the others is mainly his genetics and then his training,.. diet.. etc..
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It is still a rediculous 'sport'.
A sport in which guys that are athletically inclined are actually at a disadvantage.
If you are 150 pounds you can blow up to 297 -- provided you take the right pharmaceuticals.
At the higher levels drugs are the 'final touch' except you can't even workout correctly and eat correctly if you don't have the right take the right drugs, sell your posing thong and dignity for drugs for drug connections and you must respond well to drugs.
So in the end it is 'all drugs'. All things come full circle and lead back to drugs.
Dorian and Nasser both sponsored by genotropon
It is an absurd freakshow, and that is why I watch. To think some of these Bodybuilders in their narcicism think of themselves as celebrities. No, you are Jerry Springer level entertainment that enjoyed 5 mins of respectability in the 70s all due to Arnold an Weider.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x-ALsaB5vgk/TJkrezEbDNI/AAAAAAAAABo/_-WhR8KwWj4/s1600/dorian-yates.jpg)
(http://petesteel.com/PRO'S/nasser%20elotte%20utana.jpg)
Hard work
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Dorian is 'dense' and shows 'dryness'.
There's no denying Dorian is getting crushed (yes, CRUSHED) in that pose. However, He was a better bodybuilder...Not by much though. If Nassole had detail in his back, he would have beat Yates in 96 and 97 but would have lost to a smaller but more complete Coleman in 98.
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Most people would die with the drugs these guys were taking
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Dorian was a better bber
Towards the end the injuries took its toll, and that was Nasser's oppurtunity, Nasser only managed to hold together that freakish amount of mass for a short while, before he started falling apart too.
But Dorian won. I'm sure the team nasser archives contain evidence to the contrary, but no footage of nasser holding a sandow to be seen anywhere
It would be interesting to see dorian vs nasser in a pre gh and slin era. I believe it would go down to conditioning, and give it to yates
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Some bodies are just sponges. :D
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There's no denying Dorian is getting crushed (yes, CRUSHED) in that pose. However, He was a better bodybuilder...Not by much though. If Nassole had detail in his back, he would have beat Yates in 96 and 97 but would have lost to a smaller but more complete Coleman in 98.
nasser as he was with his weak back deserved to beat dorian in 96 and 97.. if he had a good back "not necessary as great as ronnie's and dorian's"_ he would deserve to beat yates in 95 and of course ronnie in 98 who was not as good as yates in 93 or 95..
in other words if nasser's back was good he would have been mr. olympia at least 4 times 95-98.. with his "weak" imo he deserved to be 2 times mr. olympia, 96 and 97..
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I don't like the shape of nassers muscles.
He is freakishly huge, but he reminds me a bit of markus Rhul.
Looks like he's filled with oil and water (whether he is or not) or site injecting too much. Definitely more of an "all drugs" physique. Looks like the marshmallow/michelin man.
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nasser was denser, thicker, bigger and shows the same dryness from the front..
Sherrief.............have you lost it bro ??? ??? 8)
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Dorian was a better bber
Towards the end the injuries took its toll, and that was Nasser's oppurtunity, Nasser only managed to hold together that freakish amount of mass for a short while, before he started falling apart too.
But Dorian won. I'm sure the team nasser archives contain evidence to the contrary, but no footage of nasser holding a sandow to be seen anywhere
It would be interesting to see dorian vs nasser in a pre gh and slin era. I believe it would go down to conditioning, and give it to yates
actually nasser in imo didnt play it right in 97.. he came in the show after sacrificing noticeable amount of his mass on a hope to have more details in his back but the result was a smaller version of him overall and the same back details.. he was much better the same year at the AC.. still i see him th6e winner of the olympia that year but not because he was at his best or close to it,.. it was because dorian was at his worst and didnt deserve to win with one whole arm deformed..
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Sherrief.............have you lost it bro ??? ??? 8)
no broth6er h6e was even drayer than dorian in some parts like the quads.. as for size he made dorian his son..
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sure dorian at his best had the best back ever..
Um... no.
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Um... no.
plz dont convert my thread to be another dorian vs. ronnie >:(
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plz dont convert my thread to be another dorian vs. ronnie >:(
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Nah... I was just saying that just because Nasser loses in the back double bi to Dorian, doesn't mean Dorian has the best back in the world. Nasser's back double bi was a weakpoint. His back lat spread was comparable to Dorian though.
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Nah... I was just saying that just because Nasser loses in the back double bi to Dorian, doesn't mean Dorian has the best back in the world. Nasser's back double bi was a weakpoint. His back lat spread was comparable to Dorian though.
to be fare dorian's back blew nasser's in the 2 back poses not only the RDB but this was the case with all dorian's competitors not only nasser even those who had decent backs.. on the other hand nasser blew dorian the same way and may be worse in poses like the FDB and the most muscular with all its variations..
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It is still a rediculous 'sport'.
A sport in which guys that are athletically inclined are actually at a disadvantage.
If you are 150 pounds you can blow up to 297 -- provided you take the right pharmaceuticals.
At the higher levels drugs are the 'final touch' except you can't even workout correctly and eat correctly if you don't have the right take the right drugs, sell your posing thong and dignity for drugs for drug connections and you must respond well to drugs.
So in the end it is 'all drugs'. All things come full circle and lead back to drugs.
Dorian and Nasser both sponsored by genotropon
It is an absurd freakshow, and that is why I watch. To think some of these Bodybuilders in their narcicism think of themselves as celebrities. No, you are Jerry Springer level entertainment that enjoyed 5 mins of respectability in the 70s all due to Arnold an Weider.
Well damn.
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on the other hand nasser blew dorian the same way and may be worse in poses like the FDB and the most muscular with all its variations..
Very true. Front - Nasser. Back - Dorian. Side - tie? ;)
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Very true. Front - Nasser. Back - Dorian. Side - tie? ;)
nasser's only problem from the side was his not perfect execution of the side chest pose but he was not flat at all as some idiots always claim..
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no broth6er h6e was even drayer than dorian in some parts like the quads.. as for size he made dorian his son..
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/35k0rja.jpg)
That pic of Doz and Sanserif El Schmoebody is so grainy you can't tell anything from it, beside the size.
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That pic of Doz and Sanserif El Schmoebody is so grainy you can't tell anything from it, beside the size.
yes you are right :-X
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yes you are right :-X
Dorian actually looks good there... pound for pound. ;)
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Dorian actually looks good there... pound for pound. ;)
Isn't it Lee Priest there? ;D
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Isn't it Lee Priest there? ;D
no lee is even shorter than this short version of dorian ;D
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You are just in denial, there are some pics, in certain poses in which Nasser looks better, overall in every show and career wise Dorian was so superior is not even funny
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after yrs gaining size then over doing it nasser caught up,,,but that pose is chopped of you don't see legs to calves,,,yates flows better through that regard smaller in hips better limbs in terms of smaller joints ,,nasser has big calves but stumpy look waist down and thicker ankles,,arms yeah nasser's thick and fuller ,,yates had structure and made that pose look good and overall better...
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saw both guys in person at some jersey shows guest posing back in 95 or so n both where unreal beyond belief, freaky huge off season, both over the 300lb mark
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saw both guys in person at some jersey shows guest posing back in 95 or so n both where unreal beyond belief, freaky huge off season, both over the 300lb mark
i saw 92 yates suburban nj show with kev both huge beyond description,,,
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after yrs gaining size then over doing it nasser caught up,,,but that pose is chopped of you don't see legs to calves,,,yates flows better through that regard smaller in hips better limbs in terms of smaller joints ,,nasser has big calves but stumpy look waist down and thicker ankles,,arms yeah nasser's thick and fuller ,,yates had structure and made that pose look good and overall better...
Nasser has a long torso and short legs, which make him look extremely stumpy next to other guys with better structure.
Dude was still huge though.
Pity he had no back.
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Nasser has a long torso and short legs, which make him look extremely stumpy next to other guys with better structure.
Dude was still huge though.
Pity he had no back.
we had same point then,,,
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we had same point then,,,
Indeed sir.
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i saw 92 yates suburban nj show with kev both huge beyond description,,,
i think it was 94 when i saw yates n flex wheeler at the suburban, we got creamed with a blizzard that day n i remember driving in that crap. yates came to diamond gym n blasted chest the day before the suburban n he was huuugggge.
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i think it was 94 when i saw yates n flex wheeler at the suburban, we got creamed with a blizzard that day n i remember driving in that crap. yates came to diamond gym n blasted chest the day before the suburban n he was huuugggge.
8)...how ya been fellow jerseyian,,,
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this is NAsser's pose
all the way Nasser's pose
NO ONE looked better in that pose , ever!
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You are just in denial, there are some pics, in certain poses in which Nasser looks better, overall in every show and career wise Dorian was so superior is not even funny
VERY True. Dorian dominated Nasser. he destroyed his soul so thoroughly, it drove the big-headed man with glasses insane.
Years have gone by since either man has stepped onstage, Dorian has moved on and is enjoying a very successful life post -career.
while Nasser has been seen hiding in the bushes in front of Dorian's house oiled up in a thong, and jumps out while screaming "I have improved my back!!!! the time is now!!!!" and starts hitting poses on the sidewalk when Dorian comes out to get the paper on a Sunday morning
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Sure Sheriff Salami, but you will never look like your idol Nascar El Somebody.
He is/was massive, you're not.
I'm sure you are so massive and amazing :)
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VERY True. Dorian dominated Nasser. he destroyed his soul so thoroughly, it drove the big-headed man with glasses insane.
Years have gone by since either man has stepped onstage, Dorian has moved on and is enjoying a very successful life post -career.
while Nasser has been seen hiding in the bushes in front of Dorian's house oiled up in a thong, and jumps out while screaming "I have improved my back!!!! the time is now!!!!" and starts hitting poses on the sidewalk when Dorian comes out to get the paper on a Sunday morning
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while Nasser has been seen hiding in the bushes in front of Dorian's house oiled up in a thong, and jumps out while screaming "I have improved my back!!!! the time is now!!!!" and starts hitting poses on the sidewalk when Dorian comes out to get the paper on a Sunday morning
Fucking LOL.
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no broth6er h6e was even drayer than dorian in some parts like the quads.. as for size he made dorian his son..
Who won that show, by the way?
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Fucking LOL.
;D :D
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VERY True. Dorian dominated Nasser. he destroyed his soul so thoroughly, it drove the big-headed man with glasses insane.
Years have gone by since either man has stepped onstage, Dorian has moved on and is enjoying a very successful life post -career.
while Nasser has been seen hiding in the bushes in front of Dorian's house oiled up in a thong, and jumps out while screaming "I have improved my back!!!! the time is now!!!!" and starts hitting poses on the sidewalk when Dorian comes out to get the paper on a Sunday morning
it's funny then why you begged a23 to take you with him to meet nasser lol.. after nasser refused to meet you,.. you have gone mad saying shit about him in every thread :P
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it's funny then why you begged a23 to take you with him to meet nasser lol.. after nasser refused to meet you,.. you have gone mad saying shit about him in every thread :P
It's called a Joke Shareef....relax
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It's called a Joke Shareef....relax
yes but mine was not a joke.. bad for you it was reality hahaa..
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And Floyd
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No one beats Nasser at his best. Huge, ripped, and proportional.
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Alexia looks like he pissed his pants in that picture.
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No one beats Nasser at his best. Huge, ripped, and proportional.
seriously if nasser had a harder back with more details he would have been the best mass monster ever..
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seriously if nasser had any sort of back at all he would have been the best mass monster ever..
Fixed for truth.
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seriously if nasser had a harder back with more details he would have been the best mass monster ever..
He would have been a multiple Mr. Olympia if he'd had a back with better detail. There's no doubt about it.
But we all know the Mr. Olympia is generally the Mr. Back contest.
From the front, most pros are so good, it's a toss-up. But from the back, it's far easier to discriminate from one bodybuilder to the next. With so little separating 1st from 5th from the front, it's easier for judges to over-reward/over-penalize a bodybuilder from the back. There's just far more disparity amongst the pros when it comes to back size/details, hamstring detail, glute detail.
Notice I didn't say "calves". Judges still don't care about calf development.
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8)...how ya been fellow jerseyian,,,
hangin in there, my right delts been bothering me lately though n its messin up my training. i can do back n legs but chest is impossible cause of the pain
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He would have been a multiple Mr. Olympia if he'd had a back with better detail. There's no doubt about it.
But we all know the Mr. Olympia is generally the Mr. Back contest.
From the front, most pros are so good, it's a toss-up. But from the back, it's far easier to discriminate from one bodybuilder to the next. With so little separating 1st from 5th from the front, it's easier for judges to over-reward/over-penalize a bodybuilder from the back. There's just far more disparity amongst the pros when it comes to back size/details, hamstring detail, glute detail.
Notice I didn't say "calves". Judges still don't care about calf development.
which makes you scratch your head over this years olympia, kai was decisively better from the back
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IFBB pros have the Mayor of Bodybuilding.
We have the Sheriff of Salami
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Nasser's lats were so thick at that contest. I think those were the thickest lats I've ever seen in the front double bicep. Even thicker lats than Ronnie's or Dorian's. Question is, how come they didn't look that thick in the back double bicep?
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Nasser's lats were so thick at that contest. I think those were the thickest lats I've ever seen in the front double bicep. Even thicker lats than Ronnie's or Dorian's. Question is, how come they didn't look that thick in the back double bicep?
actually ronnie's lats were not impressive from the front..
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actually ronnie's lats were not impressive from the front..
They were impressive when he hits the FLS correctly. Sometimes he would hit the FLS the wrong way and his lats would look smaller than they really are. As for the front double bicep and front relaxed, his lats were one of the biggest on stage.
Nasser was a beast in the 1996 German Grand Prix.
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They were impressive when he hits the FLS correctly. Sometimes he would hit the FLS the wrong way and his lats would look smaller than they really are. As for the front double bicep and front relaxed, his lats were one of the biggest on stage.
Nasser was a beast in the 1996 German Grand Prix.
yes bro. but imo ronnie's FLS doesnt flow in a good way like lee haney or dorian.. his naturally bad abs shape takes from this pose.. also i feel he needed to bend his torso a little bit to the rear..
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as for nasser's lats from the rear i see them wide and thick when he was on but sure they lacked the hardness and details of the other top pros..
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Nasser looked great around 95-96. But, if you looked at him up close (no homo), his lats really seemed 'site injected' at the time (96). They were swollen, and he was almost not able to flex them. Also, anatomically speaking, and clearly when viewed from the side, they had a strange shape. I think this became obvious as his back started to deteriorate, slowly at first, already from 97 onwards. By 99 they were a mess.
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x-ALsaB5vgk/TJkrezEbDNI/AAAAAAAAABo/_-WhR8KwWj4/s1600/dorian-yates.jpg)
Oi oi!
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no broth6er h6e was even drayer than dorian in some parts like the quads.. as for size he made dorian his son..
he should have been disqualified from the stage for those oily delts and biceps,,,,, how can you be dry and have no delt or biceps striations or detail...
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he should have been disqualified from the stage for those oily delts and biceps,,,,, how can you be dry and have no delt or biceps striations or detail...
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