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Title: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 10:50:17 AM
This makes me wonder how the brain of getbiggers are formed. If Einstein had thicker grey matter which causeD his high intelligence, then getbiggers grey matters must be so thick, it is oozing out of their ears.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/11/19/einstein-brain-reveals-clues-to-genius/

Einstein's brain had extraordinary folding patterns in several regions, which may help explain his genius, newly uncovered photographs suggest.

The photographs, published Nov. 16 in the journal Brain, reveal that the brilliant physicist had extra folding in his brain's gray matter, the site of conscious thinking. In particular, the frontal lobes, regions tied to abstract thought and planning, had unusually elaborate folding, analysis suggests.

"It's a really sophisticated part of the human brain," said Dean Falk, study co-author and an anthropologist at Florida State University, referring to gray matter. "And [Einstein's] is extraordinary."

Albert Einstein was the most famous physicist of the 20th century; his groundbreaking theory of general relativity explained how light curves due to the warping of space-time.

When the scientist died in 1955 at age 76, Thomas Harvey, the pathologist who autopsied him, took out Einstein's brain and kept it. Harvey sliced hundreds of thin sections of brain tissue to place on microscope slides and also snapped 14 photos of the brain from several angles.

Harvey presented some of the slides, but kept the photos secret in order to write a book about the physicist's brain.

The pathologist died before finishing his book, however, and the photos remained hidden for decades. But in 2010, after striking up a friendship with one of the new study's co-authors, Harvey's family donated the photos to the National Museum of Health and Medicine in Washington, D.C. Falk's team began analyzing the photos in 2011. [See Photos of Einstein's Brain]

The team found that, overall, Eintsein's brain had much more complicated folding across the cerebral cortex, which is the gray matter on the surface of the brain responsible for conscious thought. In general, thicker gray matter is tied to higher IQs.

Many scientists believe that more folds can create extra surface area for mental processing, allowing more connections between brain cells, Falk said. With more connections between distant parts of the brain, one would be able to make, in a sense, mental leaps, drawing upon these faraway brain cells to solve some cognitive problem.

The prefrontal cortex, which plays a key role in abstract thought, making predictions and planning, also had an unusually elaborate folding pattern in Einstein's brain.

That may have helped the physicist develop the theory of relativity. "He did thought experiments where he'd imagine himself riding alongside a beam of light, and this is exactly the part of the brain one would expect to be very active" in such thought experiments, Falk told LiveScience.

In addition, Einstein's occipital lobes, which perform visual processing, showed extra folds and creases.

The right and left parietal lobes also looked very asymmetrical, Falk said. It's not clear how those features contributed to Einstein's genius, but that brain region is key for spatial tasks and mathematical reasoning, Falk said.

The jury is still out on whether Einstein's brain was extraordinary from birth or whether years of pondering physics made it special.

Falk believes both played a role.

"It was both nature and nurture," she said. "He was born with a very good brain, and he had the kinds of experiences that allowed him to develop the potential he had."

But most of Einstein's raw ability probably came from a trick of nature rather than a lifetime of hard work, said Sandra Witelson, of the Michael G. De Groot School of Medicine at McMasters University who has done past studies of Einstein's brain. In 1999, her work revealed that Einstein's right parietal lobe had an extra fold, something that was either hardwired into his genes or happened while Einstein was still in the womb.

"It's not just that it's bigger or smaller, it's that the actual pattern is different," Witselson said. "His anatomy is unique compared to every other photograph or drawing of a human brain that has ever been recorded."


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Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Anglo on November 22, 2012, 10:52:02 AM
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Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
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That is wonderful. Take away the slave labor and commute, most people would still not be as smart as Einstein.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Tito24 on November 22, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: CARTEL on November 22, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
So basically he was just a lucky genetic freak.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 10:58:29 AM


Coach is going to meltdown about this.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 10:59:06 AM
So basically he was just a lucky genetic freak.

ha, yes. But aren't most gifted people? Even amazing athletes.

Are we slaves to our genetics?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Tito24 on November 22, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
Coach is going to meltdown about this.  :-\ :-\

maybe coach is smarter than einstein?
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: snx on November 22, 2012, 11:01:58 AM
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Wisdom. Most won't listen.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Metabolic on November 22, 2012, 11:02:46 AM
Any genetical difference between humans is marginal in every aspect.  Stop creating false idols.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
maybe coach is smarter than einstein?

Coach has indepth knowledge about the republican party. Definitely places him above einstein.

I wonder how much einstein benched. I wonder if it was more than Coach.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Wiggs on November 22, 2012, 11:07:23 AM
TESLA was better.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: RadOncDoc on November 22, 2012, 11:13:09 AM
ha, yes. But aren't most gifted people? Even amazing athletes.

Are we slaves to our genetics?  :-\ :-\

Bingo. It's all genetics.  “There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so.”
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 22, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
Any genetical difference between humans is marginal in every aspect.  Stop creating false idols.

What do you mean by marginal? 
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
What do you mean by marginal? 

I highly doubt genetic differences are marginal. I would like evidence of this.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Metabolic on November 22, 2012, 11:22:05 AM
What do you mean by marginal?  

Human beings are not all genetically equal (obviously).  These genetical differences have a marginal determination on what you "are" in the holistic sense of being.  What you do, your personality, what you accomplish in life, where you stand, where you are going, is all determined by practically infinite factors (one of them genetics, others like "will" which is controllable, others are uncontrollable like "luck").

Determinism might be true in an epistemological level, but, like Peter Strawson said, whether freedom exists or not does not matter, at the end of the day, we still are rational conscious beings that will be held responsible for their actions wether you are in fact determined or not.

IE: "No, your honor, I cannot be sentenced to 20 years in prison and must go free, for I am completely determined by my genetics", think about that.

Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 22, 2012, 11:23:27 AM
Human beings are not all genetically equal (obviously).  These genetical differences have a marginal determination on what you "are" in the holistic sense of being.  What you do, your personality, what you accomplish in life, where you stand, where you are going, is all determined by practically infinite factors (one of them genetics, others like "will" which is controllable, others are uncontrollable like "luck").

Determinism might be true in an epistemological level, but, like Peter Strawson said, whether freedom exists or not does not matter, at the end of the day, we still are rational conscious beings that will be held responsible for their actions wether you are in fact determined or not.

IE: "No, your honor, I cannot be sentenced to 20 years in prison and must go free, for I am completely determined by my genetics", think about that.



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Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Metabolic on November 22, 2012, 11:27:16 AM
I highly doubt genetic differences are marginal. I would like evidence of this.

Oh really? What makes a runner faster at the end of the day? Training and Drugs, What makes an olympic lifter better at the end of the day? Training and drugs, what makes a better philosopher or scientist at the end of the day? traininig (reading) and well, million other factors.

You can be genetically suited for certain activities, physical or intellectual, but at the end of the day, what will make you the "best" is absolutely not your genetic, but your volition and well, a million other factors which we can never know.

If it was as simple as genetic, everyone would end being the best at what they do and there wouldnt be any competition or training since all you need is genetics...

Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Metabolic on November 22, 2012, 11:28:22 AM
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Care to present a rebuttal? I dont care if its just through examples or logical constructions
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: The Scott on November 22, 2012, 11:31:06 AM
Coach is going to meltdown about this.  :-\ :-\

I am Christian and while I often fail at my faith (and it would be a lie to say otherwise)  I personally find not offense in Einstein's words as presented in this video.

When you get right down to it, nobody knows what awaits us upon our death.  Only the dead know and they are not talking.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 11:36:42 AM
Oh really? What makes a runner faster at the end of the day? Training and Drugs, What makes an olympic lifter better at the end of the day? Training and drugs, what makes a better philosopher or scientist at the end of the day? traininig (reading) and well, million other factors.

You can be genetically suited for certain activities, physical or intellectual, but at the end of the day, what will make you the "best" is absolutely not your genetic, but your volition and well, a million other factors which we can never know.

If it was as simple as genetic, everyone would end being the best at what they do and there wouldnt be any competition or training since all you need is genetics...



Wow, yes, you are brilliant. You're saying what every other scientists has said. Most development is contingent upon a relationship between genetics and environment. This is obvious. One or the other does not necessarily cause someone to be gifted. More of an intersection between the two factors.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Metabolic on November 22, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
Wow, yes, you are brilliant. You're saying what every other scientists has said. Most development is contingent upon a relationship between genetics and environment. This is obvious. One or the other does not necessarily cause someone to be gifted. More of an intersection between the two factors.

I am saying more than that, in even simpler terms genetic is "1%" of what makes you what you are.  And your post reeks of determinism so that you concede the envoironmental factors play a big part on existance is not precisely being consecuent.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 11:46:26 AM
I am saying more than that, in even simpler terms genetic is "1%" of what makes you what you are.  And your post reeks of determinism so that you concede the envoironmental factors play a big part on existance is not precisely being consecuent.

Determinism? Possibly. I am a strong proponent that environment and genetics contributes to who we are, though I obviously leave room for free will.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
Yes He does.

Sincerely,

(http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1922/bohr.jpg)


PS - I need a better PR man.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: cephissus on November 22, 2012, 01:46:06 PM
I am saying more than that, in even simpler terms genetic is "1%" of what makes you what you are.  And your post reeks of determinism so that you concede the envoironmental factors play a big part on existance is not precisely being consecuent.

1%, whence came this figure?
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Army of One on November 22, 2012, 03:22:30 PM
I am saying more than that, in even simpler terms genetic is "1%" of what makes you what you are. 

One of the most stupid things I've ever read on this site
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: a_ahmed on November 22, 2012, 03:23:52 PM
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wow spot on
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: da_vinci on November 22, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
I was born a genius so I can affirm it's genetics (GENius...GENetics... You see the correlation?). Take it for what it's worth..  :)
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
We need to reanimate Einstein and Tesla.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: quadzilla456 on November 22, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: tbombz on November 22, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
brains can literally grow and change shape over time. it happens on an extremely small scale. but it happens. and it happens as a result of your choices. the things you think.

Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Spidey on November 22, 2012, 11:45:17 PM
imagine when they study Stephen Hawking's brain. How many folds would he have?
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: sync pulse on November 23, 2012, 03:39:35 AM
TESLA was better.

Tesla was an engineer...not a theoretical physicist.  Like comparing oranges to grapefruit.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: sync pulse on November 23, 2012, 03:44:38 AM
Neils Bohr:
"Stop telling God what to do."
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: 99 Bananas on November 23, 2012, 06:44:56 AM
Stupid is as stupid does. Our intelligence is only as useful as our ability to exercise it. Do you identify yourself with your thinking mind? Are you "intelligent"? Or can you identify with the part of you that's unfolding in a manner that's more genius that alfred einstein? Is this happening to you or are you making it happen? Who's doing anything here?

There's a part of me that can cause things to happen. - I can cut my arm. This being is limited to ''doing things.'' the realm of ego. Where one can claim genius. Which is pretty useless.

There's a part of me that I have no control over. - My arm heals itself. I don't have to do anything but be patient. A cosmic force unfolding within me. This is also the force that moves mountains. Complete genius.

How do you best allow the universe to unfold in your favor? This force of god or whatever you want to call it is in all of us. Some are just more aware of the game than others. Find your true potential. It's not thinking with greater power, it's being able to identify yourself with the godness inside you. From there the world is yours. Play your hand as best as you can and you'll be as genius as anyone.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: canyon on November 23, 2012, 07:14:19 AM
TESLA was better.
Tesla was far better. This Einstein propaganda is BS. Written by Jews. When are people gonna wake up?
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Tapeworm on November 23, 2012, 09:12:01 AM
Tesla was far better. This Einstein propaganda is BS. Written by Jews. When are people gonna wake up?

Not many people know this but Einstein was involved in experiments with something code-named "black body radiation."  Probably a racial conspiracy plot!
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: bike nut on November 23, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
Tesla was far better. This Einstein propaganda is BS. Written by Jews. When are people gonna wake up?

Neither of them would have lasted two weeks on Getbig..... ;D
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 23, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
Tesla was far better. This Einstein propaganda is BS. Written by Jews. When are people gonna wake up?

Agree - the theory of relativity was just smoke and mirrors so that jews could win nobel prizes.  Just throw a bunch of numbers and symbols that no self-respecting man can understand on to a piece of paper and call it genius.  thanks for fighting the good fight, canyon.

Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: magikusar on November 23, 2012, 10:04:42 AM
einstein worked in a patent office taking ideas from smart whities who came to patent them

total fraud

hope this helps
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 23, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
they should leave his body alone out of respect
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: tbombz on November 23, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
Stupid is as stupid does. Our intelligence is only as useful as our ability to exercise it. Do you identify yourself with your thinking mind? Are you "intelligent"? Or can you identify with the part of you that's unfolding in a manner that's more genius that alfred einstein? Is this happening to you or are you making it happen? Who's doing anything here?

There's a part of me that can cause things to happen. - I can cut my arm. This being is limited to ''doing things.'' the realm of ego. Where one can claim genius. Which is pretty useless.

There's a part of me that I have no control over. - My arm heals itself. I don't have to do anything but be patient. A cosmic force unfolding within me. This is also the force that moves mountains. Complete genius.

How do you best allow the universe to unfold in your favor? This force of god or whatever you want to call it is in all of us. Some are just more aware of the game than others. Find your true potential. It's not thinking with greater power, it's being able to identify yourself with the godness inside you. From there the world is yours. Play your hand as best as you can and you'll be as genius as anyone.

(http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/files/2012/07/applause-2.jpg)
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: sync pulse on November 25, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
einstein worked in a patent office taking ideas from smart whities who came to patent them

total fraud

hope this helps

You can't patent physical laws/effects of nature...Only practical applications of physical laws/effects of nature.
Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S BRAIN REVEALS CLUES TO GENIUS
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 25, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
You can't patent physical laws/effects of nature...Only practical applications of physical laws/effects of nature.

what "magikusar" is saying is that smart whities brought patents for time machines, etc to the patent office in zurich. eisenstein would take them out for tea and pick their minds about te principles behind their inventions.  he would then burn their patent applications later at the office.