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Title: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Nails on December 13, 2012, 04:22:09 PM
BLack Teens Shot Dead a Young Arguing over Cigarettes Posted Pics on Facebook







Two 14-year-old boys who allegedly shot dead a young mother in an argument over a packet of cigarettes posted pictures of themselves brandishing guns on Facebook hours after the crime. Police are still searching for Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez, who will be tried as adults for the murder in Beaver Hills, Pennsylvania on Saturday afternoon. A third boy, 13-year-old Kyle Goosby, is already in custody and has been charged with conspiracy to commit homicide. One of the teenagers allegedly shot 22-year-old Kayla Peterson around 3pm on Saturday as she stood outside her home with her boyfriend, William Bailey. "



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Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: _bruce_ on December 13, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
Welcome to the future.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: T-rex on December 13, 2012, 04:37:23 PM
Teenagers of feces ::)
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Natural Man on December 13, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
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Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
she got smoked.  PIP
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: SF1900 on December 13, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Hate crime?
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 13, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
Getbig Memo:

Don't bother posting the details of the story If it's the usual (blacks killing whites). Just type "same old same old", as this is expected.


Thanks,
Management
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Marty Champions on December 13, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
BLack Teens Shot Dead a Young Arguing over Cigarettes Posted Pics on Facebook







Two 14-year-old boys who allegedly shot dead a young mother in an argument over a packet of cigarettes posted pictures of themselves brandishing guns on Facebook hours after the crime. Police are still searching for Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez, who will be tried as adults for the murder in Beaver Hills, Pennsylvania on Saturday afternoon. A third boy, 13-year-old Kyle Goosby, is already in custody and has been charged with conspiracy to commit homicide. One of the teenagers allegedly shot 22-year-old Kayla Peterson around 3pm on Saturday as she stood outside her home with her boyfriend, William Bailey. "



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damn nice looking blonde slut
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 06:01:57 PM
In before Parker rationalizes their behavior
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: calfzilla on December 13, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
In before Parker rationalizes their behavior
Lol he is the expert on all things black isn't he?
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Archer77 on December 13, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
We were making great progress toward racial harmony in the Rob Parker thread and then these two jack asses came along and ruined it. 
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: WOOO on December 13, 2012, 06:20:41 PM
why do you american'ts keep airing your laundry here?

you're a crazy fucking bunch
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Maddy on December 13, 2012, 06:28:29 PM
why do you american'ts keep airing your laundry here?

you're a crazy fucking bunch

WOOO
the world is
interested in the US
sorry nobody
cares about
your country
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Nomad on December 13, 2012, 06:32:06 PM
We were making great progress toward racial harmony in the Rob Parker thread and then these two jack asses came along and ruined it. 

We can always just trade them of to Cambodia or some other shitty country.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Emmortal on December 13, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
We can always just trade them of to Cambodia or some other shitty country.

Cambodia isn't all that shitty if you've ever been there.  France would be my pick.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
In before Parker rationalizes their behavior
there is no rationalizing their behavior. Two idiot 14 yr olds who acted before thinking. Chances are they would have ended up in jail for something else. And they probably had behavior problems, and parenting issues. Idolizing stupid behavior.

So, she was arguing with them over cigarettes? Nice, think about that for a sec, an adult arguing with 14 yr olds over cigarettes...
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Maddy on December 13, 2012, 06:44:31 PM
there is no rationalizing their behavior. Two idiot 14 yr olds who acted before thinking. Chances are they would have ended up in jail for something else. And they probably had behavior problems, and parenting issues. Idolizing stupid behavior.

So, she was arguing with them over cigarettes? Nice, think about that for a sec, an adult arguing with 14 yr olds over cigarettes...

Parker
you trying to
put blame on the
woman for arguing
with kids about
cigaretts
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 06:44:48 PM
there is no rationalizing their behavior. Two idiot 14 yr olds who acted before thinking. Chances are they would have ended up in jail for something else. And they probably had behavior problems, and parenting issues. Idolizing stupid behavi ::)or.

So, she was arguing with them over cigarettes? Nice, think about that for a sec, an adult arguing with 14 yr olds over cigarettes...

you say there is no rationalizing their behavior, then you proceed to rationalize their behavior...you are funny.

and place some blame on the girl while you're at it....she was arguing over cigarettes, so of course, you shoot her to death

Let  me guess, she should have known better, because everyone pulls out a gun and kills you when you have an argument

oh, and way to minimize their actions, they are "idiots"  ::)...I call someone an idiot for getting my order wrong at a restaurant, people that shoot other people to death for no fucking reason are scum of the earth, uncivilized savages who should be burned alive
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: WOOO on December 13, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
WOOO
the world is
interested in the US
sorry nobody
cares about
your country

maybe
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
No I didn't rationalize their behavior. They are a bunch of stupid asses. I'm asking what is the story behind it.
There is blame on her, I want to what the deal was.

What grown ass woman argues with kids over damn cigarettes. What is the relationship? How do they know each other, and where did these dumbasses get the guns? This is all shit that they don't tell you. This is all on the statement of facts and comes out during trial.

Groink, what part of I DEAL WITH THIS STUFF EVERYDAY that you do not get?

The same mother who is talking about her baby Jalel didn't do nothing to get shot, doesn't tell how Jalel was selling drugs and eff with a bigger dealer.

The same woman who gets blown away by her ex, it's doesn't get reported that her criminal history is a mile long with child abuse issues.

In short, the hard cold facts are this, filth eliminate filth. Whether it be black white or whatever.

When you start seeing crime is crime, and look at the behavior patterns of people, then you see.
I know you are 47 yrs old and seen some shit, but I deal with the story behind the story that is reported.

You could end up on a stretcher tomorrow, and then it's reported about said crime, and some idiot on some forum would say, "Well look at him, damn roid monkey, you know he had roid rage and he had to be shot, all of them are like that."

And all this is summised without the whole story.

All due respect, all of that BULLSHIT is irrelevant....and who gives a shit what you "deal with every day".. They KILLED  her, over cigarettes. she could be Charles fucking Manson, it's no excuse.

and nice of you to assume the girl is "filth" when you know ZERO about her. 
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Mattyh7688 on December 13, 2012, 07:10:43 PM
If Obama had a son.....
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: WOOO on December 13, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
If Obama had a son.....


he'd be in elementary school studying hard and playing basketball  ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2012, 07:15:24 PM
Typical ghetto animal sludge savage thug beast Obama-era behavior.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Archer77 on December 13, 2012, 07:17:06 PM

 playing basketball  ::) ::)
racist post reported  ;D
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 07:20:56 PM
All due respect, all of that BULLSHIT is irrelevant....and who gives a shit what you "deal with every day".. They KILLED  her, over cigarettes. she could be Charles fucking Manson, it's no excuse.

and nice of you to assume the girl is "filth" when you know ZERO about her.  
exactly, there is no excuse.  They did wrong, killed her and effectively killed themselves. Nobody wins, except for the state employees who get paid off this.

Ok, maybe I was little harsh. But, you get the point.
Something is odd with 14 yrs following dude asking for cigs, something is up, and they are apparently from the neighborhood.
 


Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: leadhead on December 13, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
Oak tree limb and 2 nooses would take care of these where I'm from..

(No racist)
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 07:30:41 PM
exactly, there is no excuse.  They did wrong, killed her and effectively killed themselves. Nobody wins, except for the state employees who get paid off this.

Hard as it maybe, there is story behind, and if I was betting man, The term can be applied to her as well.
It's cold I know.
 




yeah, the story is they were harassing her boyfriend for a cigarette..she said "get a job" and one of them pulled out a gun and shot her.  I guess these days when young punk pieces of shit are harassing you, you can't tell them to fuck off or it's OK if they kill you
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
yeah, the story is they were harassing her boyfriend for a cigarette..she said "get a job" and one of them pulled out a gun and shot her.  I guess these days when young punk pieces of shit are harassing you, you can't tell them to fuck off or it's OK if they kill you

What do you eect from ghetto bilge snd sludge ? 
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 07:47:06 PM
yeah, the story is they were harassing her boyfriend for a cigarette..she said "get a job" and one of them pulled out a gun and shot her.  I guess these days when young punk pieces of shit are harassing you, you can't tell them to fuck off or it's OK if they kill you
no it's not ok, and no there is no "justification" for their actions. Nobody thinks that telling some kids to eff off means that they are going to get shot. They were stupid dumbasses, who quite literally will be paying for it with their asses in jail.
Chances are they will be in a juvi facility until they are 18 or 21, or whatever the law states in Pa,
Then off to the big house.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Radical Plato on December 13, 2012, 07:49:11 PM
Is it just me, or are modern criminals getting dumber.  It's one thing to commit murder, but then to post on facebook menacing pictures of yourselves with guns after the fact.  If you are that dumb, you're just begging to be sentenced for life and repeatedly arse raped.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
Is it just me, or are modern criminals getting dumber.  It's one thing to commit murder, but then to post on facebook menacing pictures of yourselves with guns after the fact.  If you are that dumb, you're just begging to be sentenced for life and repeatedly arse raped.
expect a 14 yr old to act like a 14 yr old...especially one that wants be a "hardened criminal" and wants to brag.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: SF1900 on December 13, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
haha, Parker rationalizing this murder and blaming the women because she argued with them.

Argument is irrelevant. No one deserves to die over an argument. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 13, 2012, 07:56:34 PM
If Obama had sons they'd look like this

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Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Radical Plato on December 13, 2012, 07:58:21 PM
expect a 14 yr old to act like a 14 yr old...especially one that wants be a "hardened criminal" and wants to brag.
It's one thing to brag, it's another to serve up crucial evidence to the police and prosecutor who will use that information to send you to jail for a long long time.  They may as well hand the police evidence, just plain DUMB!  The FOOLS  are unaware of how DUMB it is and how they are punishing themselves through their own stupidity.  I will feel good when these punks are locked away for a long time! A monkey is smarter than these kids!
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 13, 2012, 08:00:58 PM
A monkey is smarter than these kids!

Monkeys are smarter tham these kids because monkeys are self sufficient and do not need other people to feed and house them. 
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
haha, Parker rationalizing this murder and blaming the women because she argued with them.

Argument is irrelevant. No one deserves to die over an argument. Plain and simple.

and the animals who shot her are "dumbasses"...nah, he's not trying to minimize what they did.

My daughter is 13, I'll cal her a "knucklehead" if she destroys the kitchen making a cake or something...if she murdered someone over a cigaratte, i don't think I would say "you dumbass, what were you thinking?"

It's like the fact that they murdered someone, who had a young child..is no worse than a speeding ticket in his mind
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
haha, Parker rationalizing this murder and blaming the women because she argued with them.

Argument is irrelevant. No one deserves to die over an argument. Plain and simple.
i never rationalized and never blamed her, I wanted to know what the story is. Did they know each other, whats the story. Simple. But, I guess asking questions is wrong, and only accepting the reported story is the right way to go?
Of course, with getbig, the rational is that they were black so, it's expected, it's in their DNA.


There is no argument, as there is nothing to argue.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 08:08:50 PM
and the animals who shot her are "dumbasses"...nah, he's not trying to minimize what they did.

My daughter is 13, I'll cal her a "knucklehead" if she destroys the kitchen making a cake or something...if she murdered someone over a cigaratte, i don't think I would say "you dumbass, what were you thinking?"

It's like the fact that they murdered someone, who had a young child..isn't that big a deal
fine call them murderers. I said dumbasses, because of what they did, everybody's life is ruined. They killed someone, dude loses his girl, the daughter loses a mother, the boys lose their freedom.
I believe that they should get the death penalty.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: f450 on December 13, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
I wonder what the world is coming to......This is quite sad. A bunch of inner city kids running around with firearms. I cant think of anything scarier.

death penalty is getting off easy. Life in prison with hard labor...... so they can regret this act for the next 70+years if they even live that long.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Nomad on December 13, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
No I didn't rationalize their behavior. They are a bunch of stupid asses. I'm asking what is the story behind it.
There is blame on her, I want to what the deal was.

What grown ass woman argues with kids over damn cigarettes. What is the relationship? How do they know each other, and where did these dumbasses get the guns? This is all shit that they don't tell you. This is all on the statement of facts and comes out during trial.

Groink, what part of I DEAL WITH THIS STUFF EVERYDAY that you do not get?

The same mother who is talking about her baby Jalel didn't do nothing to get shot, doesn't tell how Jalel was selling drugs and eff with a bigger dealer.

The same woman who gets blown away by her ex, it's doesn't get reported that her criminal history is a mile long with child abuse issues.

In short, the hard cold facts are this, filth eliminate filth. Whether it be black white or whatever.

When you start seeing crime is crime, and look at the behavior patterns of people, then you see.
I know you are 47 yrs old and seen some shit, but I deal with the story behind the story that is reported.

You could end up on a stretcher tomorrow, and then it's reported about said crime, and some idiot on some forum would say, "Well look at him, damn roid monkey, you know he had roid rage and he had to be shot, all of them are like that."

And all this is summised without the whole story.

You think she was a dealer?
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: SF1900 on December 13, 2012, 08:20:32 PM
i never rationalized and never blamed her, I wanted to know what the story is. Did they know each other, whats the story. Simple. But, I guess asking questions is wrong, and only accepting the reported story is the right way to go?
Of course, with getbig, the rational is that they were black so, it's expected, it's in their DNA.


There is no argument, as there is nothing to argue.


lol.

I never said it was expected of any race. But there is no debating what the argument was about really. She was murdered over an argument. Who cares who started it? Or what the argument was? You just want to know the argument so you can pass blame on her.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 08:21:25 PM
I wonder what the world is coming to......This is quite sad. A bunch of inner city kids running around with firearms. I cant think of anything scarier.

death penalty is getting off easy. Life in prison with hard labor...... so they can regret this act for the next 70+years if they even live that long.
Life in prison means that the taxpayer pays for them to sit up in prison, three meals, etc.
and continually pay. Many of these inmates live better than people not locked up.
If you man enough to take another's life, then you are man enough to face the same fate.
You think she was a dealer?
No, I don't know...
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
lol.

I never said it was expected of any race. But there is no debating what the argument was about really. She was murdered over an argument. Who cares who started it? Or what the argument was? You just want to know the argument so you can pass blame on her.
no, I just want to know what went down, because I know how things are reported.
They still pulled the trigger, and a person has a right to tell them to eff off, without expecting to be shot.
I looked at the vid for clarification, but it still is vague...

Ain't its not you per se, it's the getbig collective.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
no, I just want to know what went down, because I know how things are reported.
They still pulled the trigger, and a person has a right to tell them to eff off, without expecting to be shot.
I looked at the vid for clarification, but it still is vague...

Ain't its not you per se, it's the getbig collective.

are you saying that getbig's collective mentality towards black people's propensity for this type of shit is wrong?
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
are you saying that getbig's collective mentality towards black people's propensity for this type of shit is wrong?
If it is right, then that means, Me, Option D, Wiggs, Bay, Tre, G_Thang, Big Koncrete, and a whole list of others should just turn ourselves in for a crime we "may"commit. Due to the fact that we are black males, or have black in us, then we are potential murders, drug dealers, wife beaters, etc. Nevermind the fact that there are many non-black members who have criminal records, deal drugs, beat their signif others, etc.
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 13, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
If it is right, then that means, Me, Option D, Wiggs, Bay, Tre, G_Thang, Big Koncrete, and a whole list of others should just turn ourselves in for a crime we "may"commit. Due to the fact that we are black males, or have black in us, then we are potential murders, drug dealers, wife beaters, etc. Nevermind the fact that there are many non-black members who have criminal records, deal drugs, beat their signif others, etc.

Dude, that's just silly.  i'm sure there are far, far more normal,intelligent, just living life black people than there are violent ones. but that doesn't change the facts dude.

i don't hate all black people, but i fucking hate the ghetto fucking rat black scum who do shit like this.

And i also hate the fucked up in the head, inhuman white scum who think it's OK to open fire into movie theaters because they got picked on in high school
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Dude, that's just silly.  i'm sure there are far, far more normal,intelligent, just living life black people than there are violent ones. but that doesn't change the facts dude.

i don't hate all black people, but i fucking hate the ghetto fucking rat black scum who do shit like this.

And i also hate the fucked up in the head, inhuman white scum who think it's OK to open fire into movie theaters because they got picked on in high school
I understand that...

And to be perfectly honest, I can't  stand to look at such people like these, they are on another level. Just filth. Calling them animals is an insult to the animals kingdom. But, I will not go all 333, and that is one of the
reasons why going beyond "dumbasses", is moot.
And They deserve everything that is coming to them.

Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Ropo on December 14, 2012, 12:53:12 AM
I wonder what the world is coming to......This is quite sad. A bunch of inner city kids running around with firearms. I cant think of anything scarier.

death penalty is getting off easy. Life in prison with hard labor...... so they can regret this act for the next 70+years if they even live that long.

You know the series "Gunsmoke" which is about the gun dealership somewhere in USA. Boss of the Gunsmoke was interviewed for european magazine, and he ask if european people think they have freedom. Without waiting the answer he continued that no, you don't have freedom if you aren't able to carry gun. That mean these boys just put in practise what you know as freedom in USA, no more, no less. It is that girls own fault to choose not to have gun. In europe we have freedom to not need a gun to stay alive. Which is better? Own a gun for protect your life, or lack of need to do so, think about it..
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Bevo on December 14, 2012, 01:09:53 AM
Life in prison means that the taxpayer pays for them to sit up in prison, three meals, etc.
and continually pay. Many of these inmates live better than people not locked up.
If you man enough to take another's life, then you are man enough to face the same fate.No, I don't know...


They should be tortured but enough so they live and feel it every day. Worse than getting the death penalty and in the long run wish they were dead
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Overload on December 14, 2012, 07:27:16 AM
Hate crime?

It's only a hate crime when a white person does the killing.


8)
Title: Re: 2 Teens Shot Dead a Young Mother Arguing over Cigarettes
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 14, 2012, 09:39:13 AM
You know the series "Gunsmoke" which is about the gun dealership somewhere in USA. Boss of the Gunsmoke was interviewed for european magazine, and he ask if european people think they have freedom. Without waiting the answer he continued that no, you don't have freedom if you aren't able to carry gun. That mean these boys just put in practise what you know as freedom in USA, no more, no less. It is that girls own fault to choose not to have gun. In europe we have freedom to not need a gun to stay alive. Which is better? Own a gun for protect your life, or lack of need to do so, think about it..

exactly!  and that's why there's no gun violence anywhere in Europe.





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