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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: anabolichalo on December 17, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
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i dont understand this mentality
is it an actual retardation or an excuse because they are actually scared of kidney failure and baldness?
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do you still take supplements?
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The ultimate irony.
No money left for juice after buying whey protein and pre workout supplements. Aw, shucks! Can't win 'em all! ;D
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But Anator p70 (muscle tech products) alters one genetics to increase muscle growth.
Steroids cant alter your genes.
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do you still take supplements?
no since reading getbig and most importantly gh15 on here back then
i decided against supplements
hugenasser.com also said he only took 100grams of protein to maintain his 300lbs physique
so i quit high protein diet as well
also i lost interest in training since learning about the natural limit of the human body
so basically i dont do shit related to bodybuilding only post on getbig
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But Anator p70 (muscle tech products) alters one genetics to increase muscle growth.
Steroids cant alter your genes.
everything alters your genes some genes alter themselves back some dont. like if you burn your hand those genes are mostly permenantly alterd, we dont always know jack shit about if a gene is permenantly alterd or not or if it changes back from simple things like different food ect
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i dont understand this mentality
is it an actual retardation or an excuse because they are actually scared of kidney failure and baldness?
ummm let's see what I can buy for 200 per month.
1250mg per week of test
750mg per week of deca
700mg per week of anadrol
Nolvedex.
All for 200 per month
OR
Bcaa, creatines, no2 and waxy maize,... lmao
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i workout twice a week for general staying in shape now that i understand the pointlessness of natural bodybuilding
workout 1:
3 sets of barbell bench press 8-12 reps
3 sets of pull downs 8-12 reps
3 sets of slightly incline dumbbell bench press 8-12 reps
3 sets of row machine 8-12 reps
2 sets of skull crushers 8-12 reps
2 sets of bicep curls 8-12 reps
workout 2:
3 sets squats 15-20 reps
3 sets of lying leg curl 15-20 reps
3 sets of standing calf raise 15-20 reps
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Yup.
I spend 100 bucks a month and get exactly what i want.
not 250 a month and posting on BBing.com that I'm "seeing results" but when someone asks what those results are you say you "feel fuller and have more energy in the gym"....LOL
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Yup.
I spend 100 bucks a month and get exactly what i want.
not 250 a month and posting on BBing.com that I'm "seeing results" but when someone asks what those results are you say you "feel fuller and have more energy in the gym"....LOL
yeah it's painful to read
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200 a month will get you a couple bottles of test, a bottle of tren, and plenty of drol, and IGF1 DES for pre-workout. :)
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complete idiots, and they actually think its the supplements that are going to get them the results lol.
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when i was 15-16 i feel into the trap. i would buy all this BS amino acids and vitamins. I could have run 2gs of AAS a week with that much cash. oh well, learn from your mistakes.
btw its funny how thse people who spend 100's on BS power and pills are anti-steroid. If you tell them take 100 mg trenA ed for 8 weeks you will see results they say "thats cheating" but if you say buy our amino acid pills and take them for 8 weeks you will see reuslts that ok? ??? i mean its the same concept.
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many people live the lifestyle, otomix shoes, muscle pants n top, buy all the supplements, eat every 2 hours and supplement with drinks and bars, and spend tons of money on bs supplements, and put on hardly any size or strength at all, this demographic are the hardgainers
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Yup.
I spend 100 bucks a month and get exactly what i want.
not 250 a month and posting on BBing.com that I'm "seeing results" but when someone asks what those results are you say you "feel fuller and have more energy in the gym"....LOL
Groink
that money
would be better
spent towards
your legal defense
fund
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it's called gullible kids.
most people in the real world thinks you guys on steroids are the real losers though. only on these message boards is doing tren cool.
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Frog Tech for true mutation.
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i workout twice a week for general staying in shape now that i understand the pointlessness of natural bodybuilding
workout 1:
3 sets of barbell bench press 8-12 reps
3 sets of pull downs 8-12 reps
3 sets of slightly incline dumbbell bench press 8-12 reps
3 sets of row machine 8-12 reps
2 sets of skull crushers 8-12 reps
2 sets of bicep curls 8-12 reps
workout 2:
3 sets squats 15-20 reps
3 sets of lying leg curl 15-20 reps
3 sets of standing calf raise 15-20 reps
Just because YOU aren't good at it (or won't put in the work to get it done) hardly means that it's a pointless venture. If you're as skinny as that one pic shows you are, the LAST thing with which you should be concerning yourself is SuperPump 250.
Your supplements should be: weight gainer, more weight gainer, and EVEN MORE WEIGHT GAINER!!!
Take it from someone who was a bonerack himself, that's critical for gaining mass. Eat three high-calorie, high-protein meals and drink 2 to 3 of them per day.
That's what it took for me and it got me over 200 lbs at 5'9"....NO STEROIDS NECESSARY.
BTW, that training program is almost WORTHLESS, unless you've only been training for about six months or so. That looks like the beginner routine with which I started 23 years ago.
If you train like a paralyzed fruitfly and eat like a concentration camp victim, you WILL NOT GROW, no matter how many steroids you take.
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it's called gullible kids.
most people in the real world thinks you guys on steroids are the real losers though. only on these message boards is doing tren cool.
Oh yea?who are these people? the same people who get shit-faced at clubs and chase girls all their lives without purpose? same people who stuff their faces with McDs and BK? same people who go to the gym and never progess so they take their bittness out on sucessful people?
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Just because YOU aren't good at it (or won't put in the work to get it done) hardly means that it's a pointless venture. If you're as skinny as that one pic shows you are, the LAST thing with which you should be concerning yourself is SuperPump 250.
Your supplements should be: weight gainer, more weight gainer, and EVEN MORE WEIGHT GAINER!!!Take it from someone who was a bonerack himself, that's critical for gaining mass. Eat three high-calorie, high-protein meals and drink 2 to 3 of them per day.
That's what it took for me and it got me over 200 lbs at 5'9"....NO STEROIDS NECESSARY.
BTW, that training program is almost WORTHLESS, unless you've only been training for about six months or so. That looks like the beginner routine with which I started 23 years ago.
If you train like a paralyzed fruitfly and eat like a concentration camp victim, you WILL NOT GROW, no matter how many steroids you take.
nah, no need. you can save the $$$ and head down to your local super market and get real food that tastes good for much cheaper. i remember years back i used "real-gains" from universal, that stuff was like MUD and tasted like dirt. it cost 35$+ for a small amount too...
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nah, no need. you can save the $$$ and head down to your local super market and get real food that tastes good for much cheaper. i remember years back i used "real-gains" from universal, that stuff was like MUD and tasted like dirt. it cost 35$+ for a small amount too...
If the pic of Anabolchalo is accurate, he's a twig. Regular food alone won't get it done. Take it from a guy, who was almost as skinny as he is. If he's a student or has a regular job, chances are he won't have the time to just plain food ad nausem.
As for "Real Gains", I've never used it. Back in the day, it was first Mega Mass 2000 and then N-Large2. Today (if it didn't cost an arm and leg or you can get it on clearance), I'd go with IsoMass Xtreme Gainer.
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If the pic of Anabolchalo is accurate, he's a twig. Regular food alone won't get it done. Take it from a guy, who was almost as skinny as he is. If he's a student or has a regular job, chances are he won't have the time to just plain food ad nausem.
As for "Real Gains", I've never used it. Back in the day, it was first Mega Mass 2000 and then N-Large2. Today (if it didn't cost an arm and leg or you can get it on clearance), I'd go with IsoMass Xtreme Gainer.
i suppose you got a point. I also started small, although not a twig but small. i found the easiet thing to add mass is milk. i was 15 years old, i remember reading how milk was so good for mass building. I would drink a gallon a day, no joke. crazy stuff as now milk somtimes upsets my stomache.
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i suppose you got a point. I also started small, although not a twig but small. i found the easiet thing to add mass is milk. i was 15 years old, i remember reading how milk was so good for mass building. I would drink a gallon a day, no joke. crazy stuff as now milk somtimes upsets my stomache.
I'd only drink a quart to a quart and a half. But, that was mainly when I was making homemade weight-gainer shakes. I'm with you on needing real food, no question about it.
I felt I needed to consume more eggs. But, scrambling them was no fun, as they got cold too quickly and boiling them and eating them made me nauseous. So, I borrowed from an old formula from Vince "The Iron Guru" Gironda and mixed half a dozen eggs with 2 cups of milk (and some sweetener).
By doing that, I downed a dozen eggs per day, because I drank two of those shakes (one for breakfast, the other before bed). The rest of the day, it was regular food and weight gain shakes, either Mega Mass 2000 or N-Large.
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I'd only drink a quart to a quart and a half. But, that was mainly when I was making homemade weight-gainer shakes. I'm with you on needing real food, no question about it.
I felt I needed to consume more eggs. But, scrambling them was no fun, as they got cold too quickly and boiling them and eating them made me nauseous. So, I borrowed from an old formula from Vince "The Iron Guru" Gironda and mixed half a dozen eggs with 2 cups of milk (and some sweetener).
By doing that, I downed a dozen eggs per day, because I drank two of those shakes (one for breakfast, the other before bed). The rest of the day, it was regular food and weight gain shakes, either Mega Mass 2000 or N-Large.
good stuff, also pasturized eggwhites with coffe creamer is a good way to get 70gs of protien without getting full
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If the pic of Anabolchalo is accurate, he's a twig. Regular food alone won't get it done. Take it from a guy, who was almost as skinny as he is. If he's a student or has a regular job, chances are he won't have the time to just plain food ad nausem.
As for "Real Gains", I've never used it. Back in the day, it was first Mega Mass 2000 and then N-Large2. Today (if it didn't cost an arm and leg or you can get it on clearance), I'd go with IsoMass Xtreme Gainer.
hahah, no that pic has been floating around the net for years, it's the typical guy who thinks supplements are the answer
i have a decent build all things considered
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Supplements are a scam. They have a new crop of teenagers and twenty something every couple of years to sell to. All those guys in their glossy ads are steroid users. Off steroids and they wouldn't be hired to be in the ads.
The various protein powders are very expensive. You can get the same quality protein and save money by buying steaks,chicken, fish, eggs and greek yogurt. What would you rather have? A greek yougurt and a steak on your grill or a protein powder drink that you choke down?
Creatine works for some trainers. It's cheap but despite all those questionable "studies" out there I wonder about safety. It does make you retain water so it is effecting the kidneys that regulate water. It also can really irritate your digestive system to the point of having the runs.
Fat burners are caffeine and herb stimulants. Making yourself jittery isn't the way to lose weight.
Vitamins and minerals: I see no harm but I also see limited benefits.
Supplements are completely unregulated. The only time they are is when a problem is reported. You don't know where they source out their materials. Distributed by is meaningless because you still don't know where they got the materials. Many of the various whey companies get their whey from the same source. You wouldn't want to ingest anything made in China. Sports Illustrated did a whole thing on supplements. One company was run out of a guys garage. He mixed the sourced materials there. Had fancy glossy labels for his containers. He also had slick ads in the bodybuilding magazines.
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Ya some do serve a purpose; Caffeine, Ephedrine, protein shakes vitamins and minerals and essential fats, that's as far as my thinking brings me. Creatine and NO are a waste of time if you are on juice and if you are not the benefits a very minimal.
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Supplements are a scam. They have a new crop of teenagers and twenty something every couple of years to sell to. All those guys in their glossy ads are steroid users. Off steroids and they wouldn't be hired to be in the ads.
The various protein powders are very expensive. You can get the same quality protein and save money by buying steaks,chicken, fish, eggs and greek yogurt. What would you rather have? A greek yougurt and a steak on your grill or a protein powder drink that you choke down?
How about BOTH? One immediately after working out (shake) and the other about an hour later. It works for me.
As far as price goes, it's all about smart shopping. You can get protein powder quite economically at places like Sam's Club or Costco. Then, there's always (as I like to do) the clearance sales at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. I just finished a serving of Soy Protein 95, a 4-lb jug of which I got for $12.50 last month.
GNC's "new" rules is that they can't mark down any other name brand product lower than 50%. But, they can mark down their own products as low as 75% off.
Creatine works for some trainers. It's cheap but despite all those questionable "studies" out there I wonder about safety. It does make you retain water so it is effecting the kidneys that regulate water. It also can really irritate your digestive system to the point of having the runs.
Fat burners are caffeine and herb stimulants. Making yourself jittery isn't the way to lose weight.
Vitamins and minerals: I see no harm but I also see limited benefits.
Supplements are completely unregulated. The only time they are is when a problem is reported. You don't know where they source out their materials. Distributed by is meaningless because you still don't know where they got the materials. Many of the various whey companies get their whey from the same source. You wouldn't want to ingest anything made in China. Sports Illustrated did a whole thing on supplements. One company was run out of a guys garage. He mixed the sourced materials there. Had fancy glossy labels for his containers. He also had slick ads in the bodybuilding magazines.
Creatine is time-tested and proven. 20 years ago, a small 300-gram bottle would have run you at least $60. Now, you can get twice that amount for $20 or less (with a free T-shirt, if you get Prolab's brand).
Supplements are like anything else that's sold today. You have your high-quality brands, your average ones, and your cheap-quality. In the end, it's about smart shopping.
And, it's not a "food vs. supplements" arguments. USE THEM BOTH. Get your diet down cold, as far as building mass or cutting fat is concerned. Then, add the supplements to get even better results.
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good stuff, also pasturized eggwhites with coffe creamer is a good way to get 70gs of protien without getting full
I used to use half-n-half (as Gironda's recipe requires). But, after a while, it got too expensive and powdered milk was cheaper.
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How about BOTH? One immediately after working out (shake) and the other about an hour later. It works for me.
As far as price goes, it's all about smart shopping. You can get protein powder quite economically at places like Sam's Club or Costco. Then, there's always (as I like to do) the clearance sales at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. I just finished a serving of Soy Protein 95, a 4-lb jug of which I got for $12.50 last month.
GNC's "new" rules is that they can't mark down any other name brand product lower than 50%. But, they can mark down their own products as low as 75% off.
Creatine is time-tested and proven. 20 years ago, a small 300-gram bottle would have run you at least $60. Now, you can get twice that amount for $20 or less (with a free T-shirt, if you get Prolab's brand).
Supplements are like anything else that's sold today. You have your high-quality brands, your average ones, and your cheap-quality. In the end, it's about smart shopping.
And, it's not a "food vs. supplements" arguments. USE THEM BOTH. Get your diet down cold, as far as building mass or cutting fat is concerned. Then, add the supplements to get even better results.
There is virtually no supplement that is worth being labeled as useful...maybe creatine and thats it, the rest of the shit is EXTREMELY OVERPRICED sugar with caffeine or powdered macronutrients or micronutrients which you can get cheaper in real food.
You pay hundreds of dollars for a 0.0000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 00000000000000001% advantage.
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ummm let's see what I can buy for 200 per month.
1250mg per week of test
750mg per week of deca
700mg per week of anadrol
Nolvedex.
All for 200 per month
OR
Bcaa, creatines, no2 and waxy maize,... lmao
^^
In Canada, just the Anadrol would cost you $200 a month, you are very lucky Sir!!!!!
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ummm let's see what I can buy for 200 per month.
1250mg per week of test
750mg per week of deca
700mg per week of anadrol
Nolvedex.
All for 200 per month
OR
Bcaa, creatines, no2 and waxy maize,... lmao
Do you go Domestic or International?
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I used to buy whey,amino's etc... What a huge waste of money!! After research and soul searching, I decided to concentrate on real food. I do take Vitamin-C 1000 non-acidic and lecithin. Together they cost $17.00 for a 100 day supply. It works out to $5.10 a month, not too bad for strictly health supplements. Being a family man, I also buy my "bodybuilding" food at Aldi. Oatmeal, eggs, chicken, and lots of fresh produce. Excellent prices!! I feel better now than when taking all that crap.
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Protein is a food, not a supplement. I don't mega dose it, but having a jug on top of the fridge for a quick 20 grams after a workout is smart.
And it's dirt cheap if you buy smart. I don't know what kind of steak or chicken you guys eat, but there's no way it's cheaper than a 15 dollar jug of protein, gram for gram.
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There is virtually no supplement that is worth being labeled as useful...maybe creatine and thats it, the rest of the shit is EXTREMELY OVERPRICED sugar with caffeine or powdered macronutrients or micronutrients which you can get cheaper in real food.
What macro/micronutrients would those be?
Protein? It depends on what you buy and when
Creatine? It takes 2 lb of red meat to get 5 grams of it. Good luck if you try loading for a week.
As for the pre-workout stuff (to which I assume you were making reference, with the "sugar with caffeine" comment), it is extremely overpriced, UNLESS.......... ;D
You pay hundreds of dollars for a 0.0000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000 00000000000000001% advantage.
The advantage is hardly that miniscule and, again, it all goes back to smart shopping, as far as price is concerned.
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Protein is a food, not a supplement. I don't mega dose it, but having a jug on top of the fridge for a quick 20 grams after a workout is smart.
And it's dirt cheap if you buy smart. I don't know what kind of steak or chicken you guys eat, but there's no way it's cheaper than a 15 dollar jug of protein, gram for gram.
Yes.
Plus, protein supplements are convenient. I can take that with some almonds, apples etc at work easily.
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Protein is a food, not a supplement. I don't mega dose it, but having a jug on top of the fridge for a quick 20 grams after a workout is smart.
And it's dirt cheap if you buy smart. I don't know what kind of steak or chicken you guys eat, but there's no way it's cheaper than a 15 dollar jug of protein, gram for gram.
how do you know tho what is really in those powders and how well can the body actually absorb it
it can be good
it can be bad
we dont know really do we
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Spend the 200 on PED
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$15 bucks for a container of Whey? Is that one pound of whey concentrate? Last time I was in a bodybuilding store the whey was $30 to $50 bucks plus a container depending on brand.
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ummm let's see what I can buy for 200 per month.
1250mg per week of test
750mg per week of deca
700mg per week of anadrol
Nolvedex.
All for 200 per month
OR
Bcaa, creatines, no2 and waxy maize,... lmao
with a script you can get 10ml of test cyp generic for about $80 without insurance, or $5 if you have it.
The rest listed, well you need to trust your dealer but even then they get shit raws from China. Either way, to see gains, it's the only way to go. I just cannot believe how many pre-workout supplements exist, some companies have something like 3 to 4 of them. Nothing beats taking an a-bomb and a shot of tren 1 hour before a workout. TOTAL BEAST MODE.
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with a script you can get 10ml of test cyp generic for about $80 without insurance, or $5 if you have it.
The rest listed, well you need to trust your dealer but even then they get shit raws from China. Either way, to see gains, it's the only way to go. I just cannot believe how many pre-workout supplements exist, some companies have something like 3 to 4 of them. Nothing beats taking an a-bomb and a shot of tren 1 hour before a workout. TOTAL BEAST MODE.
Actually I had a script awhile back and was taking human grade test cyp, the delatestyral(sp.?) 5 ml bottles of 200 mg and I ran at least 10 bottles back to back and they where week compared too -as you put it - shit raws from China, The shit there is stronger if anything, they usually don't fuck with the juice cause to them the powders cost nearly nothing ( like one dollar per bottle) so they often overdose not under dose. It is the guys making it down here who are the crooks
yes, a-bomb before workout is the bomb 8) :D
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man i was one of these idiots, just discovered napsgear and it's 1\3 of what i'd spend on no2\creatine\ and all of this crap that "natural" bodybuilders use.
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how do you know tho what is really in those powders and how well can the body actually absorb it
it can be good
it can be bad
we dont know really do we
You actually ingest it. It's called trial and error. Besides, I don't think you want to go there, in terms of talking about what could be in our foods. You may end up starving to death.
$15 bucks for a container of Whey? Is that one pound of whey concentrate? Last time I was in a bodybuilding store the whey was $30 to $50 bucks plus a container depending on brand.
It's around $30 for a bag of whey protein (mainly concentrate) at Sam's Club. Of course, if you get GNC's brand of whey protein, on clearance, you can get 4-lb jugs for as little as $12.
About a month ago, I finished a jug of GNC's 100% Hydrolyzed Whey Protein, which I picked up for that price.
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You actually ingest it. It's called trial and error.
yes but even if there is no protein inside but sugar, you could get nice results
altho diabetics reported there is no sugar in whey
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yes but even if there is no protein inside but sugar, you could get nice results
altho diabetics reported there is no sugar in whey
What is it with this paranoia of yours? I've been using supplements for over 20 years. The odds of you getting a jug or bag of protein that's just sugar are low, almost miniscule.
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What is it with this paranoia of yours? I've been using supplements for over 20 years. The odds of you getting a jug or bag of protein that's just sugar are low, almost miniscule.
you never know man, there could be a kigtropin of protien powders some where.
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What is it with this paranoia of yours? I've been using supplements for over 20 years. The odds of you getting a jug or bag of protein that's just sugar are low, almost miniscule.
since that movie bigger faster stronger where they explain they changed the law to facilitate selling bogus supplements
i grew paranoid as hell
supplements, never again
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since that movie bigger faster stronger where they explain they changed the law to facilitate selling bogus supplements
i grew paranoid as hell
supplements, never again
Again, like all products, you have your high-quality, your average, and your low-quality. All it takes is some smart shopping to separate the proverbial wheat from the tares.
Look at the supplement companies that have been around for a long time. Listen to word-of-mouth advertising from people who train in the real world. Plus, in this day and age of the internet, if a product is garbage, it won't take long for word to spread.
Again, I've been using them for over 20 years. I've seen them come and go. After a while, you get a feel for what's the real deal and what isn't.
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Again, like all products, you have your high-quality, your average, and your low-quality. All it takes is some smart shopping to separate the proverbial wheat from the tares.
Look at the supplement companies that have been around for a long time. Listen to word-of-mouth advertising from people who train in the real world. Plus, in this day and age of the internet, if a product is garbage, it won't take long for word to spread.
Again, I've been using them for over 20 years. I've seen them come and go. After a while, you get a feel for what's the real deal and what isn't.
so ur saying longtime companies have to be legit? like weider or universal
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Yup.
I spend 100 bucks a month and get exactly what i want.
not 250 a month and posting on BBing.com that I'm "seeing results" but when someone asks what those results are you say you "feel fuller and have more energy in the gym"....LOL
Ahahaha! 'Feel fuller' classic
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is it an actual retardation or an excuse because they are actually scared of kidney failure and baldness?
Yes, clearly retarded to be scared of these things.
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Yes, clearly retarded to be scared of these things.
i mean it would make sense to be scared
but to think they cant afford it is ludicrous
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i mean it would make sense to be scared
but to think they cant afford it is ludicrous
Why are you worried about buying steroids? You're wasting way too much time and energy on this.
If you're going to use them, use them. If not, then don't.
Justify your decision, one way or other, then go to work. Either way, food still needs to be ingested; weights have to be lifted; and (if you plan to compete) cardio needs to be done.