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Top Conservative Publication: Shooting Occurred Because Women Ran The School
Victoria Soto, 27-year-old teacher killed while protecting her students.
If there were fewer women and more “male aggression” in Sandy Hook Elementary School, the massacre there never would have taken place, according to a contribution to a leading conservative magazine.
National Review, whose in-house editorial suggested Newtown was the price of the Second Amendment, published a piece on Wednesday from anti-feminist Charlotte Allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because Newtown was a “feminized setting:”
There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.
more at Think Progress
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Top Conservative Publication: Shooting Occurred Because Women Ran The School
Victoria Soto, 27-year-old teacher killed while protecting her students.
If there were fewer women and more “male aggression” in Sandy Hook Elementary School, the massacre there never would have taken place, according to a contribution to a leading conservative magazine.
National Review, whose in-house editorial suggested Newtown was the price of the Second Amendment, published a piece on Wednesday from anti-feminist Charlotte Allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because Newtown was a “feminized setting:”
There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.
more at Think Progress
This article (or at least, this snippet) DOES NOT state that the shooting occurred because women ran the school. The phrase used that "women and children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers".
What part of that isn't true?
And why aren't there any adult males there at the school?
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This article (or at least, this snippet) DOES NOT state that the shooting occurred because women ran the school. The phrase used that "women and children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers".
What part of that isn't true?
And why aren't there any adult males there at the school?
the utter stupidity of this author and anyone who agrees with his premise is impossible to even measure
there were plenty of adult males in Arizona and the only reason the shooter got stopped is because he ran out of bullets and was trying to reload
there were plenty of adult males in Virginia Tech and in Aurora Co as well and it didn't make any difference
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the utter stupidity of this author and anyone who agrees with his premise is impossible to even measure
there were plenty of adult males in Arizona and the only reason the shooter got stopped is because he ran out of bullets and was trying to reload
there were plenty of adult males in Virginia Tech and in Aurora Co as well and it didn't make any difference
The author is a WOMAN, or did you miss that part.
And what part of "women and chidren are sitting ducks for mass-murderers" is incorrect?
BTW, the guy in Arizona didn't use an "assault weapon".
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The author is a WOMAN, or did you miss that part.
And what part of "women and chidren are sitting ducks for mass-murderers" is incorrect?
BTW, the guy in Arizona didn't use an "assault weapon".
so what
the AZ guy use a gun with a 31 round clip and was only stopped after he ran out of bullets and was trying to reload
Think how many less people would be dead or injured if he had to reload after 10 shots
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who can argue? lol
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so what
the AZ guy use a gun with a 31 round clip and was only stopped after he ran out of bullets and was trying to reload
Think how many less people would be dead or injured if he had to reload after 10 shots
Your post the one, filled with "utter stupidity", as if reloading a gun takes as much time as ordering a combo meal at Burger King. ::)
The issue is the MANIAC, who did the killing, not the means by which he committed these horrors.
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Your post the one, filled with "utter stupidity", as if reloading a gun takes as much time as ordering a combo meal at Burger King. ::)
The issue is the MANIAC, who did the killing, not the means by which he committed these horrors.
never said it did
just told you THE FACT that the shooter in AZ was stopped by people there only after he stopped shooting in order to reload
If he had to reload after 10 shots there would have been less injured or dead people and EVEN MORE people available to take him down
It's impossible to deny (unless one happens to be a delusional idiot) that less people would have died in AZ that day if he didn't have a 31 round clip
and of course it had nothing to do with lack of men since there were no shortage of men that day and yet the men were oddly not immune to bullets
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This article (or at least, this snippet) DOES NOT state that the shooting occurred because women ran the school. The phrase used that "women and children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers".
What part of that isn't true?
And why aren't there any adult males there at the school?
Im with Mcway on this one.
Woman and children is easy targets thats why they should be armed. All of them.
Dont you agree Mcway?
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guns for everyone the new repub slogan :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Im with Mcway on this one.
Woman and children is easy targets thats why they should be armed. All of them.
Dont you agree Mcway?
any unarmed person in a confined space is an easy target
adults are bigger so in essence even easier targets
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Im with Mcway on this one.
Woman and children is easy targets thats why they should be armed. All of them.
Dont you agree Mcway?
Try a few armed MEN, here and there. You can even add a couple of female supercops, packing heat.
guns for everyone the new repub slogan :D :D :D :D :D :D
Let's take all the guns! That'll stop all those psychotic folk who want to kill their mamas and little kids in cold blood: The new Democrat slogan.
Let's pretend killers and thieves actually give rodents' backsides about gun laws, past, present, or future.
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the mother had a bunch of guns she was safe, oh wait :o
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Top Conservative Publication: Shooting Occurred Because Women Ran The School
Victoria Soto, 27-year-old teacher killed while protecting her students.
If there were fewer women and more “male aggression” in Sandy Hook Elementary School, the massacre there never would have taken place, according to a contribution to a leading conservative magazine.
National Review, whose in-house editorial suggested Newtown was the price of the Second Amendment, published a piece on Wednesday from anti-feminist Charlotte Allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because Newtown was a “feminized setting:”
There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.
more at Think Progress
good lord, what a fucking retard
there were plenty of adult males at Virginia Tech and who exactly is going to run toward someone shooting a gun
You're going to take cover and maybe try to jump him if he stops shooting
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the mother had a bunch of guns she was safe, oh wait :o
Connecticut is supposed to be one of the strictest gun-control states in the country....OH WAIT!!!
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can't be to strick she had 5 guns
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can't be to strick she had 5 guns
it doesn't matter how many guns she had
if only there had a been a few husky 12 year old's around everything would have been fine
you know 12 year old's are immune to bullets right?
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or maybe a crucifix in every classroom
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Try a few armed MEN, here and there. You can even add a couple of female supercops, packing heat.
Let's take all the guns! That'll stop all those psychotic folk who want to kill their mamas and little kids in cold blood: The new Democrat slogan.
Let's pretend killers and thieves actually give rodents' backsides about gun laws, past, present, or future.
A armed guard in every classroom? Thats a lot of spending and new government employees right there. Whats your take on this?
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can't be to strick she had 5 guns
There's no cap on the number of guns you can possess, not at the state or federal level.
Not that such would stop someone, wanting to kill his mama and a bunch of kids.
it doesn't matter how many guns she had
if only there had a been a few husky 12 year old's around everything would have been fine
you know 12 year old's are immune to bullets right?
Or if only we adopt some stupid liberal gun control law.....that will REALLY stop those pesky folk who want to slaughter people en masse, starting with their own parents. ::)
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That's right, if you were born with a Penis, you are a SUPERHERO and can defend against high powered assault weapons.
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A armed guard in every classroom? Thats a lot of spending and new government employees right there. Whats your take on this?
Not really!! All it takes is some financial restructuring and you can cover the cost rather easily, as there's probably ample government pork that can be trimmed to cover their salaries.
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Not really!! All it takes is some financial restructuring and you can cover the cost rather easily, as there's probably ample government pork that can be trimmed to cover their salaries.
A guard in every classroom, diner etc their pay is easily covered ???
You are gonna need a shitload of people to fill those places.
Wouldnt it just be easier to arm the kids and teachers?
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A guard in every classroom, diner etc their pay is easily covered ???
You are gonna need a shitload of people to fill those places.
Wouldnt it just be easier to arm the kids and teachers?
don't worry
McWay did the math for all the schools in the country and he says we can afford it
never mind that many public school districts are running deficits, massive debt , etc..
He's found a way to make it work and it only took the few seconds it took to type up the post
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or maybe a crucifix in every classroom
I doubt it
it didn't seem to help the thousands of kids being raped by priests
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don't worry
McWay did the math for all the schools in the country and he says we can afford it
never mind that many public school districts are running deficits, massive debt , etc..
He's found a way to make it work and it only took the few seconds it took to type up the post
Well when you say it like that Mcway is a retard who doesnt know how stupid he is.
Someone needs to tell the man he cant go on like this.
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Well when you say it like that Mcway is a retard who doesnt know how stupid he is.
Someone needs to tell the man he cant go on like this.
I didn't say that
btw - I'm sure if we have an armed person in every classroom that we'll have less shooting in schools
I mean what are the odds that putting 100,000 + people with weapons in every school in the country wouldn't lead to at least some of those guns being used by someone other than the person authorized to carry it
I'm sure those people will be highly trained and highly compensated so there is no chance of that ever happening
shit, I don't even know why I'm pretending to take that suggestion seriously
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I didn't say that
btw - I'm sure if we have an armed person in every classroom that we'll have less shooting in schools
I mean what are the odds that putting 100,000 + people with weapons in every school in the country wouldn't lead to at least some of those guns being used by someone other than the person authorized to carry it
I'm sure those people will be highly trained and highly compensated so there is no chance of that ever happening
shit, I don't even know why I'm pretending to take that suggestion seriously
Its a great suggestion if you already believe in talking snakes, FOX news, GOP landslide etc..
Im seeing a pattern here.
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Our u can look at facts. Concealed carry laws work.....gun free zones don't. You are not getting my guns lib...ur not getting my mags or my ammo. The slobering coverage by CNN and MSNBC is going to encourage yet another nut job to do the same thing.
Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.
– Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I’m excluding the shooters’ deaths in these examples.)
– Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
– Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates — as well as the “trained campus supervisor”; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
– Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
– Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
By contrast, the shootings in gun-free zones invariably result in far higher casualty figures — Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wis. (six dead); Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va. (32 dead); Columbine High School, Columbine, Colo. (12 dead); Amish school, Lancaster County, Pa. (five little girls killed); public school, Craighead County, Ark. (five killed, including four little girls).
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/19/we-know-how-to-stop-school-shootings/#ixzz2FYsX6qTK
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They must have not been wearing long t-shirts. :D
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Or very sticky holsters...I just watched that segment.... ::)
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Our u can look at facts. Concealed carry laws work.....gun free zones don't. You are not getting my guns lib...ur not getting my mags or my ammo. The slobering coverage by CNN and MSNBC is going to encourage yet another nut job to do the same thing.
Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.
– Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I’m excluding the shooters’ deaths in these examples.)
– Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
– Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates — as well as the “trained campus supervisor”; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
– Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
– Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
By contrast, the shootings in gun-free zones invariably result in far higher casualty figures — Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wis. (six dead); Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va. (32 dead); Columbine High School, Columbine, Colo. (12 dead); Amish school, Lancaster County, Pa. (five little girls killed); public school, Craighead County, Ark. (five killed, including four little girls).
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/19/we-know-how-to-stop-school-shootings/#ixzz2FYsX6qTK
So you want to arm the kids and teachers?
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guns for everyone the new repub slogan :D :D :D :D :D :D
As opposed tositting ducks like the communist leftists pofs want.
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A guard in every classroom, diner etc their pay is easily covered ???
You are gonna need a shitload of people to fill those places.
Wouldnt it just be easier to arm the kids and teachers?
don't worry
McWay did the math for all the schools in the country and he says we can afford it
never mind that many public school districts are running deficits, massive debt , etc..
He's found a way to make it work and it only took the few seconds it took to type up the post
Apparently, neither you nor Straw read very well.
I never said you needed a gunman in every classroom.
And, the reason public school districts are running deficits is because they are MISMANAGING money.
Yet, you (Straw) seem daft enough to think that the government is going to pass a gun law to stop all this, as if maniacal, Satan-worshipping killers tremble in fear of our finger-wagging president and his merry band of liberals.
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Apparently, neither you nor Straw read very well.
I never said you needed a gunman in every classroom.
And, the reason public school districts are running deficits is because they are MISMANAGING money.
Yet, you (Straw) seem daft enough to think that the government is going to pass a gun law to stop all this, as if maniacal, Satan-worshipping killers tremble in fear of our finger-wagging president and his merry band of liberals.
So that leaves arming the kids and teachers. Are you cool with that?
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So that leaves arming the kids and teachers. Are you cool with that?
You don't need to do even that. Try putting a mere ARMED security detail in the school.
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Apparently, neither you nor Straw read very well.
I never said you needed a gunman in every classroom.
And, the reason public school districts are running deficits is because they are MISMANAGING money.
Yet, you (Straw) seem daft enough to think that the government is going to pass a gun law to stop all this, as if maniacal, Satan-worshipping killers tremble in fear of our finger-wagging president and his merry band of liberals.
whork said it and you responded saying it was possible
A armed guard in every classroom? Thats a lot of spending and new government employees right there. Whats your take on this?
Not really!! All it takes is some financial restructuring and you can cover the cost rather easily, as there's probably ample government pork that can be trimmed to cover their salaries.
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You don't need to do even that. Try putting a mere ARMED security detail in the school.
So you want an armed government employee at the school.
How many?
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So you want an armed government employee at the school.
How many?
That depends on the size of the school. And they don't have to be government employees. You can easily contract a private security company, or even solicit volunteer or part-time security.
Heck, you could even save a few bucks by using National Guard or Reserve troops.
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That depends on the size of the school. And they don't have to be government employees. You can easily contract a private security company, or even solicit volunteer or part-time security.
Heck, you could even save a few bucks by using National Guard or Reserve troops.
LOL
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LOL
National Guard and Reservists are effectively part-time workers. That saves money, in a sense.
So, enlighten us here on what magic law Obama is going to pass that will make maniacal, devil-worshipping monsters stop stealing weapons and killing people, again.
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National Guard and Reservists are effectively part-time workers. That saves money, in a sense.
So, enlighten us here on what magic law Obama is going to pass that will make maniacal, devil-worshipping monsters stop stealing weapons and killing people, again.
never said there was one and in fact have repeatedly said there isn't a perfect fix
No one has suggested there is
why do you keep pretending otherwise
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That depends on the size of the school. And they don't have to be government employees. You can easily contract a private security company, or even solicit volunteer or part-time security.
Heck, you could even save a few bucks by using National Guard or Reserve troops.
And how would you pay the parttime security contractor?
With tax payer money?