thin sprays of 4-AD at different locations of ur body is better than one thick buildup at one location. True or False?Not necessarily. Some people vary location because the skin gets irritated and red, but others apply on the same spot continuously.
probably a stupid question... but....It is thought to help the prostrate from enlarging.
is saw palmetto good for a pct?
I have asked this before, but just want to clarify:If you are gonna do 2 back to back do either 4 on, then PCT, or do 2 on/2 off, but continue 4ad for the off weeks with nothing else.
Here is my cylce:
wks 1&2: 4 ad & Milk thistle
wks 3&4: 4 ad, M1T, NAC, hawthorne berry
wks 3&4: 4 ad (here is where I get confused-do I do 2 wks of nolva and milk thistle, or just the 4 ad?)
wks 5&6: 4 ad, M1T, NAC, hawthorne berry
wks 7&8: 40 mg nolva, milk thistle
wks 9&10: 20 mg nolva, milk thistle
My question as listed above, do I do 2 wks pct between 2 wk cylces of M1T?
Gains have been phenomenal and I want to keep them!!!
ok gi joe my question to youIt is best to do it (M1T) just as it was explained above.
Is m1t worth getting by itself along side Milk thistle..
and what is NAC
and also Is Nolvadex an otc drug or what????
yeah i am a newbie to the chemical game.
I am interested in trying M1T,I went to BB.com they had 4 different brands.What brand is the best and how many pills do I need to finish a cycle?
alright thats sounds good which one is better(stronger)and is oxo a sample of liver detox?I am interested in trying M1T,I went to BB.com they had 4 different brands.What brand is the best and how many pills do I need to finish a cycle?
You can do Higher Power if you aren't going to use liver detox agents during the cycle. If you are, go with Legal Gear. Buy the larger bottle of HP, and you'll be set for 1-2 cycles.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/m1t.html
What does Hawthorn berry do? Where can you get it?Taken from the FAQ:
M1t is killing my kidneys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i felt like crap
I just ended my 3 week cycle a week early. I couldnt take the side effects, lethargy, the headaches, the kidney pains. The lack of energy i had in the gym. THere were days where i didnt want to move allll day long. Some days i sat at home on the couch for 10+ hours. ANd i am a very very hyperactive individual.
I did like the pumps and the added 15 lbs but i felt bloated very uneasy.
I am a very healthy individual lots of veggies and fruits, cranberry juice, and green tea, hawthornberry, milk thistle, other liver aids. 60x0 Nac. blah blah blah...
But with the m1t i felt like i was close to being sick all the time. I have read that the 1st cycle the sides are worse then the 2nd time around so i might give it another go in a month or so.
rant done
Well i beleive its the m1t
2nd time around i hear your body has adapted a lil more so the sides arent as intense this is just from other peeps. No hand on experience but will find out.
But damn they were noticeable after the 1st week. End of 2nd no sir not any more i said. I had it that when i woke up (after 10 hours of sleep, m1t made me sleep like a baby) i was still soo very tired and found my self constantly doseing off at work, and barely able to hold my eyes up. Lord help me if i had to get up and actually DO SOMETHING...can you say lack of motivation. lol ;D
The bloating could have been caused by the 4-ad i was taking but i put more of it on the m1t
I am sure that the lethargy sides could be avoided with an energy aid of some sort but i didnt want to the 1st time i tried m1t.
This was my 1st cycle of anythign
time to move on to the REAL GEAR
i felt like crap
I just ended my 3 week cycle a week early. I couldnt take the side effects, lethargy, the headaches, the kidney pains. The lack of energy i had in the gym. THere were days where i didnt want to move allll day long. Some days i sat at home on the couch for 10+ hours. ANd i am a very very hyperactive individual.
I did like the pumps and the added 15 lbs but i felt bloated very uneasy.
I am a very healthy individual lots of veggies and fruits, cranberry juice, and green tea, hawthornberry, milk thistle, other liver aids. 60x0 Nac. blah blah blah...
But with the m1t i felt like i was close to being sick all the time. I have read that the 1st cycle the sides are worse then the 2nd time around so i might give it another go in a month or so.
rant done
I have been taking m1t for four days and I am not tired at all. If anything I feel energized. I did have headaches the first two days, but the last two were great. Great pumps and I have put on 3 lbs,"probably water weight from the 4-ad". I am just reporting that thus far it's been great.
M1T is not recommended for individuals who are less than 21 years old, and who have not been training for an extended period of time. This should not be used for a first PH/PS, AAS cycle since it is extremely potent. The only reason this steroid is legal is because it was never manufactured as a steroid. It is a new substance, and one not to be taken lightly.
What about my questions?????Bro,
I have T100 and A100.
What can i do to try and combat the tired feeling??
Is there anything that can be done about the loss of appitite?
And what is a gyno?
How important is 4-ad when taking a pro-hormone?
What is PCT??
Sorry for the dumbass questions but i wanna know this stuff!
I hope these arent stupid questions.
Thanx.
Bro,
If it is the SANS brand, it is 1-test and 4AD. These normally don't inspire lethargy and loss of appetite, are you sure it isn't something else (sleep, diet, stress?) The 4AD should BOOST the appetite if anything. 4AD is a good stacking supplement when mass building, but it can create water retention and a bloat feeling. It isn't "necessary", but it is effective. Gyno is small lumps of fatty tissue in the breast area, and can be induced by the use of ph/ps. This is why I preach to do homework before doing a cycle and having necessary precautions on hand in case it begins.
What's the question, Rigs?
Is this thread only for M1T questions? If not, then I have a question about Norandrostenediol.
I have a question regarding M1T.
When is the right timed to take the pill ?
When the stomach is empty ? or Just right after meal ?
Two of the guys I know gave me different opinion so I'm confused.
One insisted 'empty stomach' and the other insisted 'after meal'
Thanks in advance.
At the beginning of this thread, gijoe said that the preferred method of delivery for 4AD is transdermally. I looked at bb.com and couldn't find any transdermal products. Any suggestions as to mfgr?
I have heard nothing but good things about Nor by itself or in a stack, but I don't always trust everyone. That’s why I'm asking you (Pressure ;D ) about it. How long should I take it and should I stack it with anything else. They also said that this was the "best" precursor because it supposedly more anabolic then test and doesn't have any androgenic side effects. Share your knowledge.
Thanx, Rigs
I just ordered the stuff for the next M1T cycle.
Curious to see what the gains will be when done correctly.
Glad I read about this site in MD. Seems I had a few more side-effects on a 4 week cycle. There was some lethargy, loss of libido and bloating. I'll do 2 weeks cycles now.
Got stressed at work and my diet suffered (off-cycle) so I lost about 7 lbs but it'll come back.
The last week or two of the M1T I felt fat all the time, looked great (IMO) but felt fat. Thought my body just wasn't used to being over 200 lbs but after reading this thread and some of the responses it's pretty obvious that it was just some bloating.
Was using M1T and milk thistle, with 6OXO after. Can't wait to see what happens when it's done right.
I know, I know ... I'm just full of questions....
I also forgot to ask why taking Milk Thistle and NAC was more beneficial separate from the Boldione and 1-Test?
Thanks!
Boy, I just love to hear myself talk, don't I?
I emailed 1fast400 to ask them directly why they put a ban on Molecular Nutrtion's products, and this was their response:
"When a guy is on the front cover of a huge main stream magazine saying he can beat drug testing with his specially made drugs, then you should start to wonder his motivation. When the pro hormone ban passes in a few weeks and takes away these, plus other items following, you can thank molecular for getting the ball rolling. The balco issue fueled the fire, but the fire was started by the moron that owns that company. He still, to this day, talks in a very negative fashion about this industry."
Any comments?
gijoe-Are they the ETHERgels or ESTERgels?
I have 1 Test Ethergels and the bottle recommends running doses of 25 mg to 50 mg three times a day. Is this because of the ether, or would you still recommend running 600 mg to 1000 mg a day. I am about 200 lbs right now.
Thanks
1 Testol Ethergels:
17betahydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one THP Ethergels=25 mg
Made by CHEMI-SPORT LABORATORIES
gijoe-
Let me ask you one more- I also have about a half a bottle of Muscletech Norteston and a half a bottle of Anotesten from about two or three years ago. Just looked at them and they are about to expire. I paid like $70 a bottle for them back then, and would hate to just throw them away. Would you think it would be ok to stack them in with my m4ohn and 1 test to use them up? Or would I be better off just throwing them away?
Stay around 600mg ED, split into 3 doses for this. I am not sure why they only put 25mg into each gelcap, so it is a lot of pills to pop. Next time go for the estergels bro.
I guess this gives me another question: I only have enough for about two weeks then. I also have some 1-Test Undeconate from an old cycle left over. After the two weeks could I switch to the 1-Test Undec to finish my 6 week cycle?
Also, what is the difference or advantage between ethergels, estergels, and 1 test undeconate? Which is best?
Ok I know this is going to sound stupid but hear me out...
I just bought a 60cap bottle of Underground Labs M1T 5mg per cap. I am 25, 195pd, working out for almost three years now. Up to this point I have only supped with protein and creatine on and off (currently off).
My question is what would be the affect of taking m1t 10mg per day for 30 days. Only with milk thistle 2 weeks prior, during, and 2 weeks post.
I have thoroughly read your post and found it very informative, but am looking for alternatives due to budget. After gym membership, protein, and chicken,chicken,chicken, there is little $ left for supps.
I am not looking for massive gains (well actually I am, but not on a budget), but a little boost to break a few plateau's.
My only worry is body damage/side effects due to lack of PCT. Should I be more concerned about this, and if so what one other OTC supp should I purchase?
Thanks for any help and thanks for providing so many answers.
I thought M1-T doesn't aromatize so what's the need for 6-oxo?
4 WEEKS AT 20 Mgs. :o
Dayummmm
Sorry guys and gals, I've been out for a while and haven't been able to get to the boards. If there are any unanswered questions still lingering, repost them and I will try to answer them.
It's good to be back!
Gijoe,That would be a good compound. 5AD in there helps to reduce cortisol and is a good "enhancer", but you may not feel the relief from some sides like you would with 4AD.
WHat are your thoughts on German American Technologies Wini Depot. http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/M1T/GA02
It has 5-Androdiol in it as well as some other stuff. They recomend 4 weeks on 2 weeks off at 20mg/day for two bottles. Any feedback would be apreciated.
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Gijoe,
WHat are your thoughts on German American Technologies Wini Depot. http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/M1T/GA02
It has 5-Androdiol in it as well as some other stuff. They recomend 4 weeks on 2 weeks off at 20mg/day for two bottles. Any feedback would be apreciated.
That would be a good compound. 5AD in there helps to reduce cortisol and is a good "enhancer", but you may not feel the relief from some sides like you would with 4AD.
Thanks for the feedback. That's my plan to do after I try out the Methyl-D from Gaspari, just started today.keep us posted on the results from the Methyl D!
keep us posted on the results from the Methyl D!Will do!
Can the transdermal 4AD cause nipple soreness?
Hi my question is about when to take the suppliments durring the week. From all the info I have scene posted here It looks as one shoulde be supplimenting 7 days a week. Is this correct? Or is it just monday thru friday?7 days a week!!
my questions are more based on the extras you have to take with M1T
milk thistle/NAC...is it best to take each separately or get a blend?? ive seen both products and am curious as to which would be better for me
for ex. MRM Liver X - 400mg NAC/100mg milk thistle extract
for PCT...would stacking something like chrysin with the 6-OXO be of any benefit at all since chrysin is supposed to minimze conversion??
I just bought sci-fit m1t.
Each pill has 20mg m1t and 100 mg norf and 500 milkthistle.
Is 20 mg too much for a first cycle,,5'11 185.
I don't want to overdue it and kill the kidneys..
I am on my 2nd day of 20MG..and I have too much energy...like ephedra type shakes when lifting,,,,,
but other than the energy spike, no other sides yet.
BTW,,,I do sleep much better the last 2 night though...solid sleep.
Today is day 4,,,just did back....feel alright.
A little pain now and then in lower left back,,,kidney area...
Drink more water righht?
So. Even though the kidneys hurt,,,it's not doing toooo much damage?
do you do 2 or 4 week cycles?
I have 6oxo, milk thistle...m1t...suggest anything else I am missing?
I was told 4ad is illegal here..San Diego. So I can't get that. I went strait m1t andmilkthistle. Today is day 5, and my kidneys are starting to be sore,,regulary,,not on and off anymore.
but hey,,only 9 more days left...Funny thing is, my weight is about the same,,but my size is bigger,,,and I am getting noticebly leaner....
completely opposite from what I have been hearing to be results.
your thoughts?
how are higher power m1t supps? i saw one on bodybuilding.com that contains the hawthorne berry, milk thistle in with the m1t. would this be any good? i included the link
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/mplus.html
just to post from the other side of the spectrum, i have been takin m1t for about 3-4 weeks, 20mg a day on training days, 10 off, absolutely no soreness. i also fight and have not felt any sluggishness. my nipples dont hurt, but i think thats genetics, i mean i once took 1200mg of t200 in a week w/ no anti-aromatizing agents, no gyno.as for gains i have been on super low carbs for about 2 weeks, under 50 easily, and have gained about 4 pnds, up to 224, gotten a little stronger too.
as for this new bill that supposedly passed..should we stock up on thhis stuff now before its too late?
what else do you think will be taken off the market, you know, besides the good stuff, i.e. 1ad, m1t, anything we arent thinking of?
what do you think will really happen, i mean when chemical ephedrine was supposedly banned, there were stores selling it under the pretense that if the store still had stock they could sell it, they just couldnt restock it, if so what do you think will happen if they cant still sell off backstock, a supersale? or do you think they'll rename it and sell it on the low'
i noticed that in the first post it says to take 600mg (split into 2 servings) of 6-oxo a day for PCT. based on that it would be 1 pill for each serving...being that its 300mg a pill.
serving suggestion is 3-6 pills a day...meaning 900-1800mg a day according to the label.
which should i follow?? also, is 6-oxo only for PCT or do you take it the entire time with the cycle??
6-oxo is 300 mg per serving, and a serving = 3 pills. So 3 pills=300mg.
6-oxo is pretty expensive, and most people only use it for pct.
my bad...i read it wrong...thanks
6lbs with no protein.....
me or eat2grow? i hope you could see that i am eating protein, if i was eating low carb and no protein, what the hell would i be eating, lol. i was just saying that i am not supplementing my protein intake with a shake.
jesus christ you're an idiot
Hey, im a week into my m1t cycle, haven't felt any sides yet, but i also haven't seen any gains! Im taking higher power's M1t @ 10mgs a day. My diet and training regiemes are sound. Im 190lbs 5'10 , quite lean aroound 9% . Would it be recommendable to bump it up to 15mgs a day, or am i being impatient?
I noticed it says natural testosterone halts under side effects while on the m1t... I am all about puttin on the gains, and I got 6oxo for my post cycle, but how much of a side effect does m1t have on your natural testosterone production once youre off, or I am gunna be shootin blanks...
me or eat2grow?
My kidneys/lower back is sore when I work back or legs, and also when I do cardio. When I am not working out I barely notice it.
Whats up fellas
Ive been reading this post and found alot of usefull info
im just about ready to set it off and was confused about one thing concerning the 4AD am I supposed to use it for a total of 6 weeks ?
2 weeks prior to the m1t then for the 4 weeks im on m1t ?
just wanted to know if I have this part correct because I bought the Dermabolics brand and the bottle states not to use for longer than 4 weeks just wanted to know im Anxious to start so some info would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks alot in advance ...
Damn, Gunnz and Martini, I am tearing up. The boyz are all grow-ed up! You guys are awesome, keep the great advice going, I couldn't do any better myself!!
Thanks Gunnz.
I've some more questions. When I'm taking M1T, is there a need to go above my normal bulking diet (say 500 calories more?) If I bump my my calories some more (+500 cal), do I keep this calorie increase the same during the PCT (so as to keep the gains)?
Also would I be able to handle more training volume when I'm on M1T?
I've read many pages of M1T related posts in a number of forums and I have this nagging doubt which I hope someone could clarify for me.YOU WOULD BE WASTING YOUR TIME !
Firstly, I've read that M1T is highly suppressive and shuts down the natural test production after 72 hours of usage. So if I take my M1T sporadically like this:
day 1: 10 mg
day 2-4: nothing
day 5: 10 mg and repeat
Wouldn't I be able to avoid the shutdown and hence be able to stay on M1T for a much longer period? ???
I'm still a bit unclear.
Say for eg. my standard bulking calorie intake is 3500.
When I'm on M1T, I take additional 500 cals over and above my normal bulking diet at 4000 calories.
During PCT, do I take 4000 cal to keep my gains or do I take 3500 (which is still more than my maintaince level) because my body is no longer as anabolic?
Please advise. Thanks.
I've read many pages of M1T related posts in a number of forums and I have this nagging doubt which I hope someone could clarify for me.
Firstly, I've read that M1T is highly suppressive and shuts down the natural test production after 72 hours of usage. So if I take my M1T sporadically like this:
day 1: 10 mg
day 2-4: nothing
day 5: 10 mg and repeat
Wouldn't I be able to avoid the shutdown and hence be able to stay on M1T for a much longer period? ???
Whats up Fellas
Just wanted to ask something else about 4AD how many hours apart should I use it ? Am I wasting this stuff by spraying the 4AD about 2-3 hours apart you see reason is I get up shower spray the 4AD go to the GYM for about 1 hour go eat go home then shower again and spray the 2nd dose just wanted to know if im wasting my time doing it this way ? any input would be appreciated
THANKS AGAIN .....
Once again you came through for the Kid thanks GUNNZ !!!
Bio/Stats: 31yrs - 5' 11" - 215lbs - I've been working out continuously for about 1 year (off and on for about 10years, there was time when I was 8%bf about 4-5years ago) - I have lost about 65lbs since last Dec - diet 1200-1600 cal/day + daily multi - use a thermogenic drink 2-3 times a week.
I'm planning my first cycle of M1T for late Jan early Feb (I want to finish my research, and get my diet and sleep patterns right) I have a few clarifications if you don't mind:
1. Do I take Novladex during my cycle the whole time? During my PCT? or only if I need it?
2. I plan to stack 10mg M1T with 4AD; how much 4AD should I use? Should I start 4AD before the M1T cycle?
3. I Plan to up my calories to about 3000 per/day starting 2weeks prior and through most of the PCT, is that enough?
Planning my cycle for:
Prior 1-2wks: Start 4AD (Calories up to 3000)
Cycle3-4wks: 10mg M1T + 4AD (3000 Cal)
PCT 5-6wks: 6oxo + Milk thistle (3000 Cal)
PCT 7wk: 6oxo + milk thistle (2500 Cal)
PCT 8wk: Maintain 2000-2500 Cal diet
...then consider repeating?
Am I on the right track? Any feed back would be appreciated. Sorry for all the questions, this is a new area for me.
Thanks!!!
Thanks, this was a big help. I will be taking the oral form of 4AD, and I will definitely extend my PCT, I have no problem taking my time to do it right. And I will replace the 6oxo with Nolvadex. My understanding is there is no need to take both. Thanks again for the quick informative response!Oral 4AD is very heavily degraded in the liver, so if in any way possible, go to transdermal.
The oarl was going to be much more convinient for me with my work schedule, but if it makes that big a differnce, I'll work it out. I was planing to take the 4AD about 1-2 hours before my work outs. Gunnz commented on taking it close to your workout instead of morning and evening?
is this the same thing as methyl-1-test by max muscle
Here is a warning re: M-1T from a popular site that sells it. Read this and tell me if it's worth the risk.+
Cautions/Warnings: Do not use this product if you are female, if you are a male under the age of 21 or you have not reached full maturity. Do not use this product if you have or have a family history of liver, kidney or prostrate disease or endocrine conditions. This product should be used in conjunction with proper diet and exercise. You should consult your physician before beginning any exercise program. If you have any other medical condition or are taking prescription drugs, consult with your physician before using this product. Keep out of reach of children. Store at room temperature and avoid excessive heat. Do not use if inner safety seal is broken or missing.
U.S. Federal Trade Commission Warning: This product contains steroid hormones that may cause breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, and infertility in males, and increased facial and body hair, voice deepening, and clitoral enlargement in females. Higher doses may increase these risks. If you are at risk for prostate or breast cancer you should not use this product. You must be 21 years of age or older to purchase this product.
***Hmm breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, infertility in males, clitoral enlargement in females, possible liver problems, kidney problems, prostate problems*** And we thought herpes was bad.
***You tell me if it's worth the risk for a few extra pounds on your bench. Trust me, I once thought the guys who can lift small school buses were cool. Now they look like they are 110 years old when they are in their 30's. When you get older chicks don't care what you can lift. They care about how you look & how fit your "package downstairs is". Now ask yourself this question, Does any body building judge or any woman care if Dexter Jackson can lift more than Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman? I know alot of women who like Dexter's & Gustavo's physique better than Ronnie or Jay's. Personally most guys including myself would be happy to look like Arnold in his prime. Arnold took no where near the crap top pros are using today. Having side effects like the one's mentioned on M-1T warning label are not worth it.**
By the way, I think the government regardless of which party holds the presidency needs to focus more on fighting crime, drugs & keeping our streets safe more than worrying about pro-hormones/pro-steroids. What's a bigger risk? A lowlife trying to sell a highschool kid heroin, PCP etc or some guy at the gym taking M-1T? Someone tell these politicians to wake up!! OK I'm done ranting, but that warning label above is legit!
Happy New Year!!
M1t is killing my kidneys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a warning re: M-1T from a popular site that sells it. Read this and tell me if it's worth the risk.
Cautions/Warnings: Do not use this product if you are female, if you are a male under the age of 21 or you have not reached full maturity. Do not use this product if you have or have a family history of liver, kidney or prostrate disease or endocrine conditions. This product should be used in conjunction with proper diet and exercise. You should consult your physician before beginning any exercise program. If you have any other medical condition or are taking prescription drugs, consult with your physician before using this product. Keep out of reach of children. Store at room temperature and avoid excessive heat. Do not use if inner safety seal is broken or missing.
U.S. Federal Trade Commission Warning: This product contains steroid hormones that may cause breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, and infertility in males, and increased facial and body hair, voice deepening, and clitoral enlargement in females. Higher doses may increase these risks. If you are at risk for prostate or breast cancer you should not use this product. You must be 21 years of age or older to purchase this product.
***Hmm breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, infertility in males, clitoral enlargement in females, possible liver problems, kidney problems, prostate problems*** And we thought herpes was bad.
***You tell me if it's worth the risk for a few extra pounds on your bench. Trust me, I once thought the guys who can lift small school buses were cool. Now they look like they are 110 years old when they are in their 30's. When you get older chicks don't care what you can lift. They care about how you look & how fit your "package downstairs is". Now ask yourself this question, Does any body building judge or any woman care if Dexter Jackson can lift more than Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman? I know alot of women who like Dexter's & Gustavo's physique better than Ronnie or Jay's. Personally most guys including myself would be happy to look like Arnold in his prime. Arnold took no where near the crap top pros are using today. Having side effects like the one's mentioned on M-1T warning label are not worth it.**
By the way, I think the government regardless of which party holds the presidency needs to focus more on fighting crime, drugs & keeping our streets safe more than worrying about pro-hormones/pro-steroids. What's a bigger risk? A lowlife trying to sell a highschool kid heroin, PCP etc or some guy at the gym taking M-1T? Someone tell these politicians to wake up!! OK I'm done ranting, but that warning label above is legit!
Happy New Year!!
Here is a warning re: M-1T from a popular site that sells it. Read this and tell me if it's worth the risk.everybody is entitled to an opinion!
Cautions/Warnings: Do not use this product if you are female, if you are a male under the age of 21 or you have not reached full maturity. Do not use this product if you have or have a family history of liver, kidney or prostrate disease or endocrine conditions. This product should be used in conjunction with proper diet and exercise. You should consult your physician before beginning any exercise program. If you have any other medical condition or are taking prescription drugs, consult with your physician before using this product. Keep out of reach of children. Store at room temperature and avoid excessive heat. Do not use if inner safety seal is broken or missing.
U.S. Federal Trade Commission Warning: This product contains steroid hormones that may cause breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, and infertility in males, and increased facial and body hair, voice deepening, and clitoral enlargement in females. Higher doses may increase these risks. If you are at risk for prostate or breast cancer you should not use this product. You must be 21 years of age or older to purchase this product.
***Hmm breast enlargement, testicle shrinkage, infertility in males, clitoral enlargement in females, possible liver problems, kidney problems, prostate problems*** And we thought herpes was bad.
***You tell me if it's worth the risk for a few extra pounds on your bench. Trust me, I once thought the guys who can lift small school buses were cool. Now they look like they are 110 years old when they are in their 30's. When you get older chicks don't care what you can lift. They care about how you look & how fit your "package downstairs is". Now ask yourself this question, Does any body building judge or any woman care if Dexter Jackson can lift more than Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman? I know alot of women who like Dexter's & Gustavo's physique better than Ronnie or Jay's. Personally most guys including myself would be happy to look like Arnold in his prime. Arnold took no where near the crap top pros are using today. Having side effects like the one's mentioned on M-1T warning label are not worth it.**
By the way, I think the government regardless of which party holds the presidency needs to focus more on fighting crime, drugs & keeping our streets safe more than worrying about pro-hormones/pro-steroids. What's a bigger risk? A lowlife trying to sell a highschool kid heroin, PCP etc or some guy at the gym taking M-1T? Someone tell these politicians to wake up!! OK I'm done ranting, but that warning label above is legit!
Happy New Year!!
I am 20 years old and I want to order some M1T today because it is illegal to buy tommorow. I know you shouldn't take it unless your 21 but what would it do If i started taking it now. the supp. I am on now is NoX2 and NoX2 extender also with creatine and protein. Could I add M1T in for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off as long as I use some sort of PCT?just take M1T with creatine forget about NoC crap
just take M1T with creatine forget about NoC crap
i used it before and it didnt work for me!
make sure you get proper Pct adn up your calories according to your body!
good luck!
pcp
should i use pcp efter the m1t cycle or during?People...Nobody should be using these substances if they don't even know what PCT is. Gain the knowledge before you put this stuff in your body. Does it work...yes, but this should be researched well before you begin a cycle. At best you won't gain anything, at worst you could do real damage to your body by not knowing enough about it. Read up on it. Not just this FAQ, but everything you can possible learn. Then come to us for tweaking of a cycle.
Hey Gijoe, do you think we should delete this thread now that M1T is illegal to use, and is considered a steroid? Just wondering.I would say leave it for now. The hardcore board talks to steroid use (hypothetically of course), so I don't see us doing it presenting a problem. None of us REALLY use it, so we aren't breaking any law talking about it. It is like talking about having sex with farm animals, it's illegal to act on it, but not talk about it, and nobody does it (except GEO).
i have been lifting for awhile, just on creatine, protein and stuff, what would happen if i take the m1t correctly if i havent taken anything lighter prior?
M1T is placebo. It may give you 2-5 lbs more than if you lifed and ate just as hard with creatine. The 4AD is what puts on the <water> weight.
Pro Hormones DO NOT WORK!
Milk thistle keeps the liver healthy.
And yes, M-1-T does work.