Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 05:41:07 AM

Title: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 05:41:07 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/armed-guard-stops-school-shooter-after-he-opened-fire-at-atlanta-middle-school

Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 05:57:51 AM
An armed off-duty Atlanta Police officer working as a “school resource official,” disarmed and subdued the suspect immediately after he shot the victim and took him into custody

this has been around since the 1990's nothing new here move along
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 07:12:38 AM
Yet morons still feel that creating a bigger "gun free zone" which works so great as we can see is better than armed guards at schools why?
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Fury on February 01, 2013, 07:17:03 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/armed-guard-stops-school-shooter-after-he-opened-fire-at-atlanta-middle-school



The government says scissors should be used to stop a shooter.

Anti-gun nuts say we should hand over our guns because the police can protect us but they don't want police protecting the schools. It doesn't even make sense.  ::)
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 07:20:26 AM
The government says scissors should be used to stop a shooter.

Anti-gun nuts say we should hand over our guns because the police can protect us but they don't want police protecting the schools. It doesn't even make sense.  ::)

LOL!!!!!
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 07:22:54 AM
An armed off-duty Atlanta Police officer working as a “school resource official,” disarmed and subdued the suspect immediately after he shot the victim and took him into custody

this has been around since the 1990's nothing new here move along

Newtown Calls for Armed School Officers
 NBCConnecticut ^ | 2/1/2013 | George colli

Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 9:52:19 AM by FR_addict

"The Newtown Board of Education will be asking the town to make room for more armed police officers in its budget.

In a meeting Thursday, the board voted to request the town to add full time uniformed school resource officers to its four elementary school s for the next fiscal year was approved this evening. The officers would be Newtown police officers.

“Our parents are demanding of us that things are made safe and secure and certain measures areput in place,” said Chairwoman Debbie Leidlein. “So we’re being very thoughtful.”

Multiple police officers have been stationed at all Newtown schools since the December 14th shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary killed twenty children and 6 teachers. Those officers will remain at the school through the remainder of the school year. For the next fiscal year, resource officers were budgeted only to be at Middle and High Schools. ..."


(Excerpt) Read more at nbcconnecticut.com ...
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 07:30:28 AM
missing the point,the title is bullshit,it wasn't an armed guard,it was an off-duty Atlanta Police officer working as a “school resource official,this is nothing new been around since the 90's
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 07:37:03 AM
^^^^^
BWAAHHAHABAHHA after all the mocking the libtard morons did on the NRA's suggestion using sandy hook as their propaganda tool to push their agenda. They feel its a good idea to use the NRA's suggestion, LMFAO I guess the emotions finally subsided and rational thought won out.

Where blackass? Are you going to mock them like you did the NRA?
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
missing the point,the title is bullshit,it wasn't an armed guard,it was an off-duty Atlanta Police officer working as a “school resource official,this is nothing new been around since the 90's
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 07:43:43 AM


Semantics 
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 08:59:21 AM
missing the point,the title is bullshit,it wasn't an armed guard,it was an off-duty Atlanta Police officer working as a “school resource official,this is nothing new been around since the 90's
So it was a person trained in dealing with tense situations protecting others who was armed...

Lol how is that any different than what the NRA proposed?
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: dario73 on February 01, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
So it was a person trained in dealing with tense situations protecting others who was armed...

Lol how is that any different than what the NRA proposed?

There is nothing different.

Nothing at all.
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 09:58:18 AM
So it was a person trained in dealing with tense situations protecting others who was armed...

Lol how is that any different than what the NRA proposed?

lol it was a police officer,not an armed security guard,there is a difference
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 10:08:21 AM
lol it was a police officer,not an armed security guard,there is a difference
it was an off duty police officer which is also called a civilian, was it not also said that they should use off duty/retired police officers and ex military personnel for these types of positions?

Only a person who is a mental midget or simply being partisan would argue the idiocy you are, I'm not sure which one you are but I'm leaning toward mental midget
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
it was an off duty police officer which is also called a civilian, was it not also said that they should use off duty/retired police officers and ex military personnel for these types of positions?

Only a person who is a mental midget or simply being partisan would argue the idiocy you are, I'm not sure which one you are but I'm leaning toward mental midget

you forgot he also said patriotic, trained qualified citizens ,great a bunch of zimmermans running around school     numbnuts
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
you forgot he also said patriotic, trained qualified citizens ,great a bunch of zimmermans running around school     numbnuts
An off duty officer is a civilian...

So you are against qualified and trained ppl who are armed protecting our children at school?

Do you not consider off duty police and ex military qualified and trained?


Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
if a town wants a police officer in the school great,we have had them for years around here,i would not want just some patriotic, trained qualified citizens [zimmerman] in our school
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
if a town wants a police officer in the school great,we have had them for years around here,i would not want just some patriotic, trained qualified citizens [zimmerman] in our school
What training did Zimmerman have?

So you are for the NRA's suggestion of armed qualified and trained guards then?
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
if they're police i have no problem,had them around here for years,they don't just stand at the door they're interacting with the kids,i think it can be good for them
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 11:01:27 AM
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/02/01/metal-detectors-at-georgia-school-where-student-shot


Metal Detector = FAIL
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: 240 is Back on February 01, 2013, 11:05:32 AM
nice to see people adapting to the "Every school needs a student resource officer".

I said it the day of the shooting.
NRA said it a week later.
Nice to see other have stopped with "we can't have a police state!" and have migrated to the "we want a cop on campus" belief.
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 01, 2013, 11:05:52 AM
if a town wants a police officer in the school great,we have had them for years around here,i would not want just some patriotic, trained qualified citizens

What's the difference between a trained person that's a police officer, and a trained person that's a civilian?

???

The uniform?
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 11:33:54 AM
What's the difference between a trained person that's a police officer, and a trained person that's a civilian?

???

The uniform?

the training,i know for a fact the amount of training a police officer goes though,who knows what your going to get with a so called trained civilian
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
the training,i know for a fact the amount of training a police officer goes though,who knows what your going to get with a so called trained civilian

Bullshit - most cops i know are worthless w a gun   
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
proof or shut your trap  ;D
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 01, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
the training,i know for a fact the amount of training a police officer goes though,who knows what your going to get with a so called trained civilian

proof or shut your trap  ;D
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 11:55:08 AM
they spend a minimum  8 weeks at the academy,i honestly doubt they are going to send a civilian for 8 weeks of training
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 01, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
they spend a minimum  8 weeks at the academy,i honestly doubt they are going to send a civilian for 8 weeks of training

How much of that time do they spend on the range? ???
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 11:58:57 AM
the training,i know for a fact the amount of training a police officer goes though,who knows what your going to get with a so called trained civilian
So your issue this whole time was with the amount of training the person would have?

Seems to me you were mocking the NRA bc they thought more guns would help the problem...
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 12:11:27 PM
How much of that time do they spend on the range? ???

it's more than just range time,it's alot of situations and how to respond,just because your a good shot at the range doesn't mean your going to handle the situation well
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
So your issue this whole time was with the amount of training the person would have?

Seems to me you were mocking the NRA bc they thought more guns would help the problem...





yeah it's called qualified people,just because you have an armed civilian doesn't mean that's the answer
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 12:16:40 PM





yeah it's called qualified people,just because you have an armed civilian doesn't mean that's the answer


And just because you sing kumbaya and give peace a chance does not mean you are safe
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: blacken700 on February 01, 2013, 12:18:41 PM

And just because you sing kumbaya and give peace a chance does not mean you are safe


dumb responce,but that's to be expected
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2013, 12:40:37 PM
Biden concedes new laws won't totally end gun massacres
 cnn ^ | February 1st, 2013 11:02 AM ET | Kevin Liptak

Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 3:19:04 PM by Red Steel

Washington (CNN) – Vice President Joe Biden, who spearheaded the White House's effort to find ways of reducing gun violence, admitted to reporters Thursday that any measures passed by Congress would fail in totally eliminating gun deaths.

Biden was speaking on Capitol Hill after meeting with Democratic lawmakers to build support for gun control legislation currently making its way through Congress. While he said no law could ever eliminate gun deaths, the vice president stressed that attempts must be made to prevent gun violence, particularly as Americans are demanding an answer from the government on how to end tragedies like the December massacre in Connecticut.

"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down," Biden said, echoing remarks President Barack Obama made in January when he said "there is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely."

In December and early January, Biden led a panel assigned by President Barack Obama to look into the issue of gun violence. Using the group's recommendations, Obama proposed that Congress pass laws reinstating an assault weapons ban, limiting gun magazine capacity, and expanding the type of gun sales requiring background checks.


(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cn n.com ...
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: 24KT on February 02, 2013, 02:51:22 PM
nice to see people adapting to the "Every school needs a student resource officer".

I said it the day of the shooting.
NRA said it a week later.
Nice to see other have stopped with "we can't have a police state!" and have migrated to the "we want a cop on campus" belief.

Actually, if memory serves me correctly, ...you suggested that the day of the Virginia Tech shooting, ...either that or it was allow students & teachers to carry their guns into the school. not quite sure.
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: 240 is Back on February 02, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Actually, if memory serves me correctly, ...you suggested that the day of the Virginia Tech shooting, ...either that or it was allow students & teachers to carry their guns into the school. not quite sure.

I've never been a huge fan of 'arming the teachers'.

MAYBE if the training is VERY high level... not just getting a permit... there are too many insecure idiot teachers who would brag about the gun to students and possibly getting it taken from them.  Now, a smart person can carry a weapon in thunderwear for an entire career and NOBODY knows.  But I don't trust teachers not to be idiots and pull it to break up fights, etc.  Too many low-info people in that field.

I've always been an advocate of lots of police on campus... just way too many soft targets there.  I see armed guards at most banks... to guard a few thousand bucks available onhand... and I see no armed guard where there are 1500 kids... put a price value on 1500 human beings? 
Title: Re: NRA Vindicated - Armed guard stops shooter at school.
Post by: JBGRAY on February 02, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
And who is going to pay for all these armed guards, especially when most school districts(and likely the ones in need of such guards) are constantly desperate for funding?  Police officers and other emergency personnel are grossly overpaid, whereas subcontracting a security company would likely net you a $10 an hour armed guard who likely does not have the training nor motivation to deal with terse situations.

Arming the teachers?  I'd be very leery of giving employees who barely make over $30k a year guns supervising dozens of children.....arming teachers and other school employees would only make the likelihood of a student or faculty member getting shot moreso than preventing a mass shooting.

Proposal?  Do nothing....the slim chance of actually getting shot while attending school should simply be taken for granted.