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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/07/dr_benjamin_carson_addresses_national_prayer_breakfast_criticizes_obamacare.html
Good for the doc.
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Famed Baltimore neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson addressed the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning on healthcare. Dr. Carson often criticized Obamacare and government intrusion in healthcare while President Obama sat in the audience. Dr. Carson encouraged a program where newborn babies are given health savings account as an alternative to Obamacare.
DR. CARSON: What we need to do is come up with something simple. And when I pick up my Bible, you know what I see? I see the fairest individual in the universe, God, and he's given us a system. It's called a tithe.
We don't necessarily have to do 10% but it's the principle. He didn't say if your crops fail, don't give me any tithe or if you have a bumper crop, give me triple tithe. So there must be something inherently fair about proportionality. You make $10 billion, you put in a billion. You make $10 you put in one. Of course you've got to get rid of the loopholes. Some people say, 'Well that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made 10.' Where does it say you've got to hurt the guy? He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don't need to hurt him. It's that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands. That money needs to be back here building our infrastructure and creating jobs.
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DR. CARSON: Here's my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed -- pretax -- from the time you're born 'til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you're 85 years old and you got six diseases, you're not trying to spend up everything. You're happy to pass it on and there's nobody talking about death panels.
Number one. And also, for the people who were indigent who don't have any money we can make contributions to their HSA each month because we already have this huge pot of money. Instead of sending it to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care.
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hsa at birth I think would cause even more problems. Not sure if he's being sarcastic though.
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get the fuck out of here with this bible thumping reject.
did he really just argue for a tithe? This simpleton view of the world is not fair, god of the bible is the most unfair character in history, remember he tortures you forever for finite things.
How stupid is this, regardless of work, input etc you put a certain amount of money (completely arbitrary) so when you have illness you can't use it. Posting this screed is fucking absurd.
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get the fuck out of here with this bible thumping reject.
did he really just argue for a tithe? This simpleton view of the world is not fair, god of the bible is the most unfair character in history, remember he tortures you forever for finite things.
How stupid is this, regardless of work, input etc you put a certain amount of money (completely arbitrary) so when you have illness you can't use it. Posting this screed is fucking absurd.
Shut up quack
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DR. CARSON: Here's my solution: ..... an electronic medical record, and ...
mark of the devil?
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/08/7-fascinating-facts-about-dr-carson-the-prayer-breakfast-speaker-who-attacked-political-correctness-and-the-debt-in-front-of-obama
LMFAO!!! This doctor has real credentials unlike the resident moron claiming to be a doc and Ovomit.
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get the fuck out of here with this bible thumping reject.
did he really just argue for a tithe? This simpleton view of the world is not fair, god of the bible is the most unfair character in history, remember he tortures you forever for finite things.
How stupid is this, regardless of work, input etc you put a certain amount of money (completely arbitrary) so when you have illness you can't use it. Posting this screed is fucking absurd.
no you fucking retard he proposed that everyone chip in to the system based proportionately on their income...
The % isnt any more arbitrary than other taxes including income tax.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/08/7-fascinating-facts-about-dr-carson-the-prayer-breakfast-speaker-who-attacked-political-correctness-and-the-debt-in-front-of-obama
LMFAO!!! This doctor has real credentials unlike the resident moron claiming to be a doc and Ovomit.
I believe he's the first man to successfully separate conjoined twins, a real "bible-thumping reject", according to Necrosis.
Rush played Carson's byte on his show.
Wait until the left finds out he's a Creationist, too......OH THE HUMANITY!
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get the fuck out of here with this bible thumping reject.
did he really just argue for a tithe? This simpleton view of the world is not fair, god of the bible is the most unfair character in history, remember he tortures you forever for finite things.
How stupid is this, regardless of work, input etc you put a certain amount of money (completely arbitrary) so when you have illness you can't use it. Posting this screed is fucking absurd.
Why are you attacking a black man, you disgusting racist?
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Why are you attacking a black man, you disgusting racist?
You forget. Racism towards black people is allowed when they're actual or perceived conservatives/Republicans.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/08/7-fascinating-facts-about-dr-carson-the-prayer-breakfast-speaker-who-attacked-political-correctness-and-the-debt-in-front-of-obama
LMFAO!!! This doctor has real credentials unlike the resident moron claiming to be a doc and Ovomit.
His medical doctorate does not in any way improve his expertise on system management or public rule.
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I believe he's the first man to successfully separate conjoined twins, a real "bible-thumping reject", according to Necrosis.
Rush played Carson's byte on his show.
Wait until the left finds out he's a Creationist, too......OH THE HUMANITY!
Again so what? people can be logical and hold illogical beliefs, indoctrination is often the most powerful tool of delusion.
and again, he is not a biologist, geologist, abiogenesist etc, why do I care what he thinks about earths beginnings?
Sounds like he believes in the bible and all the stuff that comes with it, no surprise there. Argument from false authority here.
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no you fucking retard he proposed that everyone chip in to the system based proportionately on their income...
The % isnt any more arbitrary than other taxes including income tax.
Yes it is, it's arbitrary because it hasn't been attempted, or anything like it. You see current taxes while initially arbitrary have experimentation, this lends credence.
He says right in the article
"Here's my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed -- pretax -- from the time you're born 'til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you're 85 years old and you got six diseases, you're not trying to spend up everything. You're happy to pass it on and there's nobody talking about death panels."
he says when you are 85 and sick you are happy to pass it on. Perhaps I reading that wrong, you tell me.
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His medical doctorate does not in any way improve his expertise on system management or public rule.
As opposed to an opinion of a known plagiarizer and hack. Your opinion of anything regarding any subject beyond the 2nd grade is meaningless.
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As opposed to an opinion of a known plagiarizer and hack. Your opinion of anything regarding any subject beyond the 2nd grade is meaningless.
Quantum physics.
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Yes it is, it's arbitrary because it hasn't been attempted, or anything like it. You see current taxes while initially arbitrary have experimentation, this lends credence.
He says right in the article
"Here's my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed -- pretax -- from the time you're born 'til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you're 85 years old and you got six diseases, you're not trying to spend up everything. You're happy to pass it on and there's nobody talking about death panels."
he says when you are 85 and sick you are happy to pass it on. Perhaps I reading that wrong, you tell me.
what the fuck does that have to do with a flat tax which he is proposing and what we were discussing?
you try so very hard to come across as an intellectual but you simply come across as an ignorant pompous fucktard.
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what the fuck does that have to do with a flat tax which he is proposing and what we were discussing?
you try so very hard to come across as an intellectual but you simply come across as an ignorant pompous fucktard.
My post was referencing that you moron. I assumed you could infer that had you read the whole thing posted.
I don't try to come across as anything, I troll you you melt.
You drunk again? the anger is back.
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no you fucking retard he proposed that everyone chip in to the system based proportionately on their income...
The % isnt any more arbitrary than other taxes including income tax.
also, I was the first relevant response, and the subject title makes no reference as to what is to be discussed. You are just slow, you are the type that can't keep up.
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prayer breakfast?
fucking americant extremists
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prayer breakfast?
fucking americant extremists
Extreme...how so? Freely expressing their religion is extreme? BTW, it is American, you dick head.
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Hi Tomy,
Are you enjoying looking like a retard?
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Hi Tomy,
Are you enjoying looking like a retard?
Yep, you're a physician alright. ::)
Canadian healthcare must be so proud to have you.
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Hi Tomy,
Are you enjoying looking like a retard?
LMFAO you dumb candian girl I havent responded b/c your irrational posts make no fucking sense and id rather not deal with your idiotic ass.
now run along post another 50 times about a country your obsessed with lol
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Yep, you're a physician alright. ::)
Canadian healthcare must be so proud to have you.
I act proper and prim all day long, no matter if it's will patients or on Getbig! When I go to the bar with my buddies, I also don't swear and have no opinions on anything but medicine.
Thanks for adding to the conversation Skip.
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LMFAO you dumb candian girl I havent responded b/c your irrational posts make no fucking sense and id rather not deal with your idiotic ass.
now run along post another 50 times about a country your obsessed with lol
Sure it is tony, sure it is.
You were owned because you are raging alcoholic and have little to no reading comprehension. Whatever argument you are having in your head I am not involved with. At no point did you make any meaningful rebuttal to my posts, in fact, you created a strawman and attacked it like an angry drunk.
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Sure it is tony, sure it is.
You were owned because you are raging alcoholic and have little to no reading comprehension. Whatever argument you are having in your head I am not involved with. At no point did you make any meaningful rebuttal to my posts, in fact, you created a strawman and attacked it like an angry drunk.
Obamacare sucks an is based on lies. End of thread.
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Sure it is tony, sure it is.
You were owned because you are raging alcoholic and have little to no reading comprehension. Whatever argument you are having in your head I am not involved with. At no point did you make any meaningful rebuttal to my posts, in fact, you created a strawman and attacked it like an angry drunk.
alcoholic?
LMFAO youve ranted and raved while quoting my posts about shit irrelevant to them.
Piss off moron, your opinion counts for shit as your a foreigner and a canadian to boot. Just fucking sit there until we tell you to do something like your piss ant country.
LOL
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alcoholic?
LMFAO youve ranted and raved while quoting my posts about shit irrelevant to them.
Piss off moron, your opinion counts for shit as your a foreigner and a canadian to boot. Just fucking sit there until we tell you to do something like your piss ant country.
LOL
Ok Tony, why so angry, you seem like a sad person. What has went wrong in life for you?
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alcoholic?
LMFAO youve ranted and raved while quoting my posts about shit irrelevant to them.
Piss off moron, your opinion counts for shit as your a foreigner and a canadian to boot. Just fucking sit there until we tell you to do something like your piss ant country.
LOL
LOL...yep...on here crying like a little bitch over shit that doesn't even affect him.
Can you get any more pathetic?
Hell...I couldn't even name a single Canadian forum, lol
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Again so what? people can be logical and hold illogical beliefs, indoctrination is often the most powerful tool of delusion.
Indeed!! That's how we got this global warming mess.
and again, he is not a biologist, geologist, abiogenesist etc, why do I care what he thinks about earths beginnings?
Supposedly, you're pro-science or anti-science, based on your thinking of the earth's beginnings.
Sounds like he believes in the bible and all the stuff that comes with it, no surprise there. Argument from false authority here.
False, based on what, other than your disdain for religion?
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Here is Dr. Carson's speech:
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Here is Dr. Carson's speech:
He probably gave the best bitch slap to O-TURD I have ever seen to his face.
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DR. BENJAMIN CARSON: There are a group of people who would like to silence everybody and have everybody go along to get along, but that's not going to be very helpful for us in the long run, in terms of solving our problems. And somebody has to be courageous enough to actually stand up to, you know, the bullies.
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DR. CARSON: One of the things I also said during the speech is there will be some people who will say, 'but you’re a doctor and you’re a surgeon, you should be sticking to that.' And I mentioned the fact that five physicians signed the Declaration of Independence and were involved in the framing of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and several other things.
There’s absolutely no reason at all that physicians, scientists, shouldn’t be involved in things that affect all of us. We’re people who've learned how to make decisions based on facts, empirical data, rather than on ideology, and one of the geniuses, one of the real things that made us a great nation, is that we brought people from all backgrounds into the legislative process. So that all of us would be able to place our interests there and we've gone significantly away from that.
And no one goes up to a lawyer and says why are you getting involved in this, that and the other thing. I don't see why they would say it to a physician, who has more education than anyone else in society.
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DR. CARSON: There’s no question that [President Obama] has advocated, you know, basically a policy of tax the rich. And I have advocated a policy that comes from the Bible, which is a very fair policy of proportional taxation. If it was good enough for God, why wouldn’t it be good enough for us? The minute you deviate away from that, you begin to get into all kinds of biases. And one could legitimately make the argument that the rich pays too many taxes. The top 1% pays 37% of the taxes, the top 5% [pays] 59% of the taxes, but they don't make that much of the income. One could make that argument.
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NEIL CAVUTO, FOX NEWS: Obviously, you got a quite a round of applause there. Some in that room and elsewhere since that video has gone viral have said you should run for president. What do you think of that?
DR. BENJAMIN CARSON: Well, actually I've had people tell me that for many years now. If I had a nickel for everybody who told me that, I could finance my campaign.
CAVUTO: You and me both. You and me both. Your reaction to that is what? I mean, you don't think that's for you? You want to be a doctor and help people, what?
DR. CARSON: I've always said if God grabs me by the collar and sticks me in that arena, that's the only way that I'll do it. But, no, I'm actually going to retire in June from surgery. I will still teach, I will still be involved, but I'm going to retire from surgery, so it does open up a lot of possibilities for me. I'm very focused on education and getting the populace back to where it used to be -- like back in 1831 when Alexis de Tocqueville was so impressed -- because an uneducated populace will fall for anything.
And if you and you talk to most people, they mean well but they don't have much of a breadth of education, of knowledge, of understanding of what the real issues are and, therefore, they listen to pundits on television who tell them what they're supposed to think and they keep repeating that and pretty soon they say, 'Oh, well that must be true.' (Your World, February 11, 2013)
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/07/dr_benjamin_carson_addresses_national_prayer_breakfast_criticizes_obamacare.html
Good for the doc.
Watched the clip this morning. Very nice. Much better than the State of the Union speech I'll be skipping tonight.
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Watched the clip this morning. Very nice. Much better than the State of the Union speech I'll be skipping tonight.
Im not watching that garbage either.
Complete waste of time
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Im not watching that garbage either.
Complete waste of time
Thank the Lord for DVR. I actually attempted to eat while watching clips of the State of the Union (and this was after my leg workout).