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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on February 11, 2013, 07:25:15 PM
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kKS7nWHL1oM/T4NTA_Tx2JI/AAAAAAAAICQ/9C0uqlF_01A/s1600/john-grimek-big-bicep+peak.jpg)
Even after all this time his pics look better than the steroid bloated creeps of today. No steroids and the man looked just sensational.
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hlaFImWEr3o/TkWZqh9b1MI/AAAAAAAAA2U/kUouF3kXcMw/s1600/Grimek.jpg)
Amazing what a barbell can do. No steroids needed.
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Performance Enhancing Drugs
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Wrong. He dated only adult women, and eventually married one. Get lost pervert!
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http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2005/02/the_man_behind_the_juice.html
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http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2005/02/the_man_behind_the_juice.html
Didn't you ever learn "don't believe everything you read"? What an asshole you are.
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Old Vince G. also told me in person at his gym on Ventura
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All ox testicle injections straight from the tap.
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damn man you gotta quit...Grimek used like all his peers.
if it came out he did gay for pay or was alcoholic would that be better than using hormones?
just sayin.
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Vince G. told me straight up
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kKS7nWHL1oM/T4NTA_Tx2JI/AAAAAAAAICQ/9C0uqlF_01A/s1600/john-grimek-big-bicep+peak.jpg)
Even after all this time his pics look better than the steroid bloated creeps of today. No steroids and the man looked just sensational.
Never been a fan, and everyone talked of Grimek like he walked on water
Just another bber, no steroids?! LOL.....
Powerful looking physique, but only looked good in two or three signature poses
They were lucky to have lived outside the information age, that's all
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He competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany. He was going to compete as a light heavy weight but they wouldn't allow him in that weight category because of a strange rule they had then. He competed just one time as a heavy weight so according to the rules then you could never go down to a lower weight class. He would have easily won his class. He would have been an Olympic Gold medalist, Mr. America and Mr. Universe.
He was a legend in the game. Like all his contemporaries he trained his whole body in one shot when he lifted. He was built like a brick house his whole life. I doubt he juiced from the 30's,40's,50s,60's,70's and 80's.
Fans of steroids have this mentality that anyone and everyone uses. It's to excuse how they look like crap without drugs. Yes, there are hard working guys who are muscular and strong without drugs. The first anabolic steroid was invented around 1958.
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He competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany. He was going to compete as a light heavy weight but they wouldn't allow him in that weight category because of a strange rule they had then. He competed just one time as a heavy weight so according to the rules then you could never go down to a lower weight class. He would have easily won his class. He would have been an Olympic Gold medalist, Mr. America and Mr. Universe.
He was a legend in the game. Like all his contemporaries he trained his whole body in one shot when he lifted. He was built like a brick house his whole life. I doubt he juiced from the 30's,40's,50s,60's,70's and 80's.
Fans of steroids have this mentality that anyone and everyone uses. It's to excuse how they look like crap without drugs. Yes, there are hard working guys who are muscular and strong without drugs. The first anabolic steroid was invented around 1958.
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With Grimek, there is a chance he was natural outlier for much of his career. I would allow for perhaps use/testing in the late 40's.
Here are his measurements from his peak years -
Year Name Height Weight neck arm forearm chest waist thigh calf wrist ankle -
1940/1941 John Grimek 5'8.5" 195 17 17.5 14 47 31 25 17 8 9.8
Given that most bodybuilders numbers are fudged, and that there were much looser bodyfat standards, those numbers don't seem outlandish.
Here are pictures from the 1930's -
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im0602.jpg).
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/sh/sh3906.jpg).
and 1940, 1941 -
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/sh/sh4001.jpg).
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im0404.jpg).
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/sh/sh4108.jpg).
Credit Muscle Memory.
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anyone who knows anything about steroids knows grimek was natural
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Vince G. told me straight up
That's wonderful. Was he sober that day?
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anyone who knows anything about steroids knows grimek was natural
The reason why anabolic steroids were invented in 1959 was because the Soviets Olympic lifters were injecting the only androgen steroid available; a straight testosterone derivative. The side effect of using high doses was prostate enlargement. Some of the Soviets had to be catheterized so they could urinate it got so bad. Dr.Ziegler who was the physician of the US weightlifting team convinced Ciba chemists to come up with a testosterone that had more anabolic properties and less androgenic properties. They came up with the first anabolic steroid Dianabol. The success of this drug led to a lot of other anabolic steroids being developed. Dianabol was first introduced to athletes through the York Olympic lifting team that had all the best Americans weightlifters. A few years later it spread to bodybuilders.
Dr. Ziegler on his death bed recorded this statement, "I wish I had never heard the word steroid... All these young kids... they don't realize the terrible price they are going to pay."
To bad kids on this board who are fans and users of steroids have such strong rationalization concerning their own use. They will cycle on and off for years until they have problems.
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I remember reading how Larry Scott took two D-Bol tabs a week for the eight weeks leading up to the Olympia. Times have changed.
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He competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany. He was going to compete as a light heavy weight but they wouldn't allow him in that weight category because of a strange rule they had then. He competed just one time as a heavy weight so according to the rules then you could never go down to a lower weight class. He would have easily won his class. He would have been an Olympic Gold medalist, Mr. America and Mr. Universe.
He was a legend in the game. Like all his contemporaries he trained his whole body in one shot when he lifted. He was built like a brick house his whole life. I doubt he juiced from the 30's,40's,50s,60's,70's and 80's.
Fans of steroids have this mentality that anyone and everyone uses. It's to excuse how they look like crap without drugs. Yes, there are hard working guys who are muscular and strong without drugs. The first anabolic steroid was invented around 1958.
The mantra of the genetically inferior. Good post.
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:)
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The reason why anabolic steroids were invented in 1959 was because the Soviets Olympic lifters were injecting the only androgen steroid available; a straight testosterone derivative. The side effect of using high doses was prostate enlargement. Some of the Soviets had to be catheterized so they could urinate it got so bad.
There is something wrong with this story. Do I need to elaborate?
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Just as a point of fact, Methyl Testosterone tablets (10mg) were popular and openly sold during the late 1940's. Any post WWII bodybuilder might of played with them.
Here is an ad from 1948, they were removed by the FDA in the early 50's -
http://books.google.com/books?id=fiYDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA258&dq=methyl+testosterone&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L4gaUbmvEpOn0AH6_IGwCw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=methyl%20testosterone&f=false .
Paul De Kruif's 1945 book "The Male Hormone" and WWII research made them popular.
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Just as a point of fact, Methyl Testosterone tablets (10mg) were popular and openly sold during the late 1940's. Any post WWII bodybuilder might of played with them.
Here is an ad from 1948, they were removed by the FDA in the early 50's -
http://books.google.com/books?id=fiYDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA258&dq=methyl+testosterone&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L4gaUbmvEpOn0AH6_IGwCw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=methyl%20testosterone&f=false .
Paul De Kruif's 1945 book "The Male Hormone" and WWII research made them popular.
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I would have sent for 20 bottles ASAP, when can we get a time machine guys??? :'(
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Google the history of steroids and its amazing how many steriod and testosterone things were available in the 1940's.
I think dianabol was registered by the fda or whatever for official sale as a medicin around 1958 but they had been makin shitloads of bodybuilding drugs for at least 10 years before that. I read that Reg Park was sent to the USA by his dad for 6 months when he was maybe 21 and came home 30lbs heavier.
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He looks strong
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The reason why anabolic steroids were invented in 1959 was because the Soviets Olympic lifters were injecting the only androgen steroid available; a straight testosterone derivative. The side effect of using high doses was prostate enlargement. Some of the Soviets had to be catheterized so they could urinate it got so bad. Dr.Ziegler who was the physician of the US weightlifting team convinced Ciba chemists to come up with a testosterone that had more anabolic properties and less androgenic properties. They came up with the first anabolic steroid Dianabol. The success of this drug led to a lot of other anabolic steroids being developed. Dianabol was first introduced to athletes through the York Olympic lifting team that had all the best Americans weightlifters. A few years later it spread to bodybuilders.
Dr. Ziegler on his death bed recorded this statement, "I wish I had never heard the word steroid... All these young kids... they don't realize the terrible price they are going to pay."
To bad kids on this board who are fans and users of steroids have such strong rationalization concerning their own use. They will cycle on and off for years until they have problems.
yeah... still doesnt prove that he used steroids
just because he had the option to use them doesnt mean he did
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Perfectly plausible he was a lifetime nattie
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Perfectly plausible he was a lifetime nattie
So Ziegler was lying? In fact, Grimek got other lifters to do steroids too.
LOL
http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH1993/JSH2001/jsh2001b.pdf
What you say here is as silly as the "nice everyday physique" comment of yours.
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No, what I am saying you can build a physique like his without steroids.
I don't know if he done them or not.
I find the people who always shout loudest about drugs are those often dealt a less than favourable genetic hand.
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You're really not too swift on the uptake, are you son?
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Vince G. and Armand T. both told me that he did them.
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Vince G. and Armand T. both told me that he did them.
Vince was a drunk and Armand was insanely jealous of Grimek.
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I am not going to argue that. I am telling you because you thought that I only read it. A lot of history from Vince and Armand did I learn. Not sure if all of it was true... but then again... are we ever really sure about every thing?
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I am not going to argue that. I am telling you because you thought that I only read it. A lot of history from Vince and Armand did I learn. Not sure if all of it was true... but then again... are we ever really sure about every thing?
Yeah Vince. A guy who says bench presses don't build pecs and back squats don't work. What a crackpot.
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They were both a bit weird... but again... so are a lot of people...
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looks good when posing from the side or back, horrible in the front and only had cuts in thighs at the end of his career.. but for his time he was better than most
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Grimek. Still great and still a legend.
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They were both a bit weird... but again... so are a lot of people...
Gironda was crazier than a shithouse rat. All these people that put him on a pedestal have no idea.
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I know, Lex. I am NOT your enemy.
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Anyone that thinks you have to be on the sauce to look like Grimek should probably give up lifting and take up golf. John had good genetics and a great build but hardly had a build that requires juice to get that big. Way to many tiny tits here
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The Few Good Men, one?
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The Few Good Men, one?
Yes
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He was murdered.
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He was murdered.
Yes he was.
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Semper Fidelis
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Anyone that thinks you have to be on the sauce to look like Grimek should probably give up lifting and take up golf. John had good genetics and a great build but hardly had a build that requires juice to get that big. Way to many tiny tits here
i hear bowling is fun ;D
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He was murdered.
They think the guy he scapegoated in the Marines did it but they can't pin it on him. It is speculated he saw him on the tv news in a story about the lawsuit and realized he was not very far away. He then went and stalked him.
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So Ziegler was lying? In fact, Grimek got other lifters to do steroids too.
LOL
http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH1993/JSH2001/jsh2001b.pdf
What you say here is as silly as the "nice everyday physique" comment of yours.
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Read the article, guys- interesting!!
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I would love to kill who killed him.
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dude ate too many carbs
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Well Grimek did not hide the fact that he experimented in hormones in the early 1950's but apparently they didn't work.
He was a natural beast anyway, from the late 1930's onwards until he died he never became a skinny old dude.
I believe Gironda was crazy because he was constantly topped up on vodka. The real vince probably wasn't seen in 30 years by all accounts.