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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Kwon_2 on February 14, 2013, 10:40:05 AM
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Land of free. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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One less simian subhuman in the world.
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he was executed.
he should have been tried, convicted & executed by the legal system.
in this case, police were trigger happy liars all along, and they're continuing to do so. In another couple of days, we'll learn more about the fire... and then the police will transfer the story to "orders were accidentally given..."
This story stinks. Fck every one of them starting fire :( You don't say "Burn that fcking house down" before "accidentally" starting a fire.
Those cops belong in prison.
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he was executed.
he should have been tried, convicted & executed by the legal system.
in this case, police were trigger happy liars all along, and they're continuing to do so. In another couple of days, we'll learn more about the fire... and then the police will transfer the story to "orders were accidentally given..."
This story stinks. Fck every one of them starting fire :( You don't say "Burn that fcking house down" before "accidentally" starting a fire.
Those cops belong in prison.
I'm going to laugh if nothing happens over this. This is no longer about Dorner. This is about trigger happy cops shooting innocents and killing people. What they did is wrong and they all need to pay.
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Did he bodybuild?
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Did he bodybuild?
Yes
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He could of murdered those to maids but did not
he could of murdered the guy and his dog when he stole his truck but didnt
didnt seem like that bad of a guy
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http://gawker.com/5983900/cops-accused-of-starting-fire-as-charred-body-found-in-dorner-cabin?utm_source=gizmodo.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation
I know he was killing people at random and in a fire fight with them, but cops shouldn't take the punishment into their hands, that isn't their job or right.
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He could of murdered those to maids but did not
he could of murdered the guy and his dog when he stole his truck but didnt
didnt seem like that bad of a guy
Man, I wish we could find out the truth. Oh well, another one bites the dust.
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http://gawker.com/5983900/cops-accused-of-starting-fire-as-charred-body-found-in-dorner-cabin?utm_source=gizmodo.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation
I know he was killing people at random and in a fire fight with them, but cops shouldn't take the punishment into their hands, that isn't their job or right.
there's a big chance things could go wrong. if he had a hostage, for example.
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Man, I wish we could find out the truth. Oh well, another one bites the dust burns to ashes.
fixed
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there's a big chance things could go wrong. if he had a hostage, for example.
true, but did you listen to the scanner audio? Seems planned.
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I'm going to laugh if nothing happens over this. This is no longer about Dorner. This is about trigger happy cops shooting innocents and killing people. What they did is wrong and they all need to pay.
EXACTLY !!
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while Obama is Talking about GUN CONTROL in his State of The Union , 5 minutes earlier , cops shot about 2000 + rounds in the cabin and then burn it down with a man inside
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true, but did you listen to the scanner audio? Seems planned.
Yes, I agree completely it was planned. But they didn't have all the info. They didn't know who was in teh basement.
and it's not exactly legal to go burning down houses, then keeping away firefighters, in order to kill a suspect.
They wanted him dead. they opened fire on 2 vehicles without saying a word. They wanted him dead.
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he was executed.
he should have been tried, convicted & executed by the legal system.
in this case, police were trigger happy liars all along, and they're continuing to do so. In another couple of days, we'll learn more about the fire... and then the police will transfer the story to "orders were accidentally given..."
This story stinks. Fck every one of them starting fire :( You don't say "Burn that fcking house down" before "accidentally" starting a fire.
Those cops belong in prison.
No, they don't. That chump killed four people, including a deputy, in cold blood, before barricading himself in that cabin. He murdered a woman, who was a college basketball coach.
And, you're whining because he probably got barbecued, in a firefight with the cops? PLEASE!!
If that charred corpse is indeed that of Dorner, it simply means the taxpayers don't have to subsizide this bum for 20 years before he gets executed.
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No, they don't. That chump killed four people, including a deputy, in cold blood, before barricading himself in that cabin. He murdered a woman, who was a college basketball coach.
And, you're whining because he probably got barbecued, in a firefight with the cops? PLEASE!!
Apparently you don't understand or don't care how laws work do you?
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Poor Chris
Those cops are animals
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No, they don't. That chump killed four people, including a deputy, in cold blood, before barricading himself in that cabin. He murdered a woman, who was a college basketball coach.
And, you're whining because he probably got barbecued, in a firefight with the cops? PLEASE!!
If that charred corpse is indeed that of Dorner, it simply means the taxpayers don't have to subsizide this bum for 20 years before he gets executed.
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the deputy was out looking for him to kill him , how is that cold blood ???
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No justice in America.
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Apparently you don't understand or don't care how laws work do you?
You mean laws against MURDER, such as what Dorner did to those four people?
Did he or did he not shoot a deputy in cold blood? And, what EVIL did that Oriental female basketball coach commit that warranted her getting shot again?
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the deputy was out looking for him to kill him , how is that cold blood ???
Dorner fired on him. Did I mention the guy killed THREE OTHER PEOPLE (including a women's basketball coach)?
Murderer kills four people and (likely) gets barbecued in the end......You'll excuse me if I don't break out the Kleenex for this monster.
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No, they don't. That chump killed four people, including a deputy, in cold blood, before barricading himself in that cabin. He murdered a woman, who was a college basketball coach.
And, you're whining because he probably got barbecued, in a firefight with the cops? PLEASE!!
If that charred corpse is indeed that of Dorner, it simply means the taxpayers don't have to subsizide this bum for 20 years before he gets executed.
dude? You're the one who stood there for months and said we didn't have "proof" that herman cain was a shady cheater, despite all the allegations.
NOW we have a whole lot of cops trying to kill Dorner before he can go to trial... what evidence do you have that he killed four people? The word of the police who executed him?
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You mean laws against MURDER, such as what Dorner did to those four people?
Did he or did he not shoot a deputy in cold blood? And, what EVIL did that Oriental female basketball coach commit that warranted her getting shot again?
There is protocol and it involves the suspect being arrested, read his rights, tried and if found guilty, convicted. It does not involve shoot old ladies delivering newspapers in a totally different color truck, or shoot a white man or burning a cabin he is suspected to be in.
There is s SYSTEM that is in place for a reason.
What these so called cops did was cold blooded murder and there is a motive.
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particularly when this guy is a whistleblower who had a lot of bad things to say about other cops?
PLENTY of motive to frame, blame, and execute him.
At the VERY least, MCWAY, I dunno how you can just automatically ASSIGN GUILT in all of these crimes to Dorner. He probably did them all - but wouldn't a police department capable of shooting up a truck full of old ladies without warning (actually happened) also be capable of blaming Dorner of some shit that he didn't do?
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dude? You're the one who stood there for months and said we didn't have "proof" that herman cain was a shady cheater, despite all the allegations.
You mean the allegations where two women REFUSED TO STATE (despite being cleared by their former employer) what Cain supposedly did to them, or why they took a measly severance package, instead of filing a lawsuit, in an era where women were averaging over $300,000 judgment in harrassment cases?
Or, the other two women who were shown to be habitually broke LIARS, including one who lost a case in court against a former business partner for LIBEL?
NOW we have a whole lot of cops trying to kill Dorner before he can go to trial... what evidence do you have that he killed four people? The word of the police who executed him?
We got proof he killed at least ONE of them (the deputy). Why didn't the oh-so-innocent Dorner turn himself in and make his case before court, instead of enegaging in minor incidents such as MURDER, ATTEMPTED MURDER, CARJACKING, and RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT?
Yep, nothing says "I'm innocent" more than that. ::)
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I wonder if blade runner would have gotten away if he decided to run
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particularly when this guy is a whistleblower who had a lot of bad things to say about other cops?
PLENTY of motive to frame, blame, and execute him.
At the VERY least, MCWAY, I dunno how you can just automatically ASSIGN GUILT in all of these crimes to Dorner. He probably did them all - but wouldn't a police department capable of shooting up a truck full of old ladies without warning (actually happened) also be capable of blaming Dorner of some shit that he didn't do?
He got canned over FOUR YEARS AGO. You mean to tell me that he couldn't have done his supposed whistleblowing, without all this mess happening?
You don't make your grievances about the cops by killing other folks, much less post what you plan on doing on your own Facebook page.
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He got canned over FOUR YEARS AGO. You mean to tell me that he couldn't have done his supposed whistleblowing, without all this mess happening?
You don't make your grievances about the cops by killing other folks, much less post what you plan on doing on your own Facebook page.
Sooooooo
to be clear....
you consider posts on a facebook wall to be EVIDENCE?
An LAPD that would shoot up a truck full of old ladies without warning could not be capable of faking a facebook post?
yikes... i love the shifting burden of proof. Dorner seemed like a real POS that deserved the needle. But the way you just take the LAPD's word for things... yikes.
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Don't forget the other guy the cops shot up in the truck that looked nothing like Dorners.
There is no right side in this discussion, but our law enforcement is supposed to be held to a higher standard than the general public.
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Don't forget the other guy the cops shot up in the truck that looked nothing like Dorners.
There is no right side in this discussion, but our law enforcement is supposed to be held to a higher standard than the general public.
which is EXACTLY why it's difficult to just "take their word" on everything they say about Dorner. They had every motive in the world to kill him - and they sure as fck tried repeatedly.
Trial = everyone woudl get to the truth.
BBQ = We get to take the ever-evolving LAPD's story of events as the truth.
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Sooooooo
to be clear....
you consider posts on a facebook wall to be EVIDENCE?
An LAPD that would shoot up a truck full of old ladies without warning could not be capable of faking a facebook post?
yikes... i love the shifting burden of proof. Dorner seemed like a real POS that deserved the needle. But the way you just take the LAPD's word for things... yikes.
Yep. It had nothing to do with the dead and wounded deputies or the carjacking victims who got scared out of their wits.
So, the LAPD faked the Facebook posts, shot that Oriental baskeball coach and her fiance', then disguised someone as Dorner, shot one deputy and wounded another, jacked two cars, and then barricaded himself in a cabin (having stolen Dorner's license), and got fried for the department.
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I wouldn't trust a cops word over a crackheads.
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Yep. It had nothing to do with the dead and wounded deputies or the carjacking victims who got scared out of their wits.
So, the LAPD faked the Facebook posts, shot that Oriental baskeball coach and her fiance', then disguised someone as Dorner, shot one deputy and wounded another, jacked two cars, and then barricaded himself in a cabin (having stolen Dorner's license), and got fried for the department.
see, you're saying it's 0% or 100%. Either the LAPD told the complete truth, or they faked everything.
I'm saying it's probably somewhere in the middle ;)
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see, you're saying it's 0% or 100%. Either the LAPD told the complete truth, or they faked everything.
I'm saying it's probably somewhere in the middle ;)
I'd say it's more to the right, favoring the police department.
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I'd say it's more to the right, favoring the police department.
Could be. Could be 90% of what the LAPD is telling us.
However, that 10% of complete lies, bullshit, framing, shooting innocents, or whatever else it is...
Well, that's KINDA a big deal. It's why a trial was so important - because that would have come out. Of course, the police made sure that didn't happen.
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I wouldn't trust a cops word over a crackheads.
Damn...
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Hahahahahaaaaaa...I see the tinfoil hat brigade is out in full force....LOLOL.
"burn that motherfucking house down.
this was said BEFORE the house caught on fire? you want to double check that ?
NOOOOOOOTHING is going to happen to a single officer, they were well within their rights..this story will be gone in three days. HA HA HA...you guys are funny as fuck. stop whining for some fucking douchebag coward who forced the cops hand.
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I'm fine with the dude getting gassed out, then getting the needle.
it's just when you see the LAPD was HIGHLY motivated to kill - not catch this dude - then he ends up getting cooked...
Well, in this case we might like the outcome. But when it happens again and again, and the next case is 10% "not as bad" as dormer and they still burn someone alive... then they decide to start "burning up" car thieves or people buying weed...
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Dorner was a man who needed justice the most. Too bad he lived in a shithole country.
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Hahahahahaaaaaa...I see the tinfoil hat brigade is out in full force....LOLOL.
"burn that motherfucking house down.
this was said BEFORE the house caught on fire? you want to double check that ?
NOOOOOOOTHING is going to happen to a single officer, they were well within their rights..this story will be gone in three days. HA HA HA...you guys are funny as fuck. stop whining for some fucking douchebag coward who forced the cops hand.
Hi LAPD
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we don't need cops acting like judge dredd.
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Hahahahahaaaaaa...I see the tinfoil hat brigade is out in full force....LOLOL.
"burn that motherfucking house down.
this was said BEFORE the house caught on fire? you want to double check that ?
NOOOOOOOTHING is going to happen to a single officer, they were well within their rights..this story will be gone in three days. HA HA HA...you guys are funny as fuck. stop whining for some fucking douchebag coward who forced the cops hand.
You're dipshittedness never ceases to amaze me. But then why would we expect a guy that breaks laws to agree with following them?
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Damn...
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You're dipshittedness never ceases to amaze me. But then why would we expect a guy that breaks laws to agree with following them?
same we would expect from a fat piece of shit who can't find a job.
cue wiggs thousand word meltdown on where he thinks he's better than me.....LOLOLOL
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Dead is dead...fuck him.
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Dead is dead...fuck him.
ewww, that's gross man. :-X :-X :-X
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At least Dorner deserved his execution, the Police taze ordinary unarmed civilians to DEATH every week for the most trivial of reasons, and they get away with it. Nobody seems to give a fuck about that. You can now be executed on your own doorstep if police arrive and feel you looked at them the wrong way.
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ewww, that's gross man. :-X :-X :-X
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Don't forget the other guy the cops shot up in the truck that looked nothing like Dorners.
There is no right side in this discussion, but our law enforcement is supposed to be held to a higher standard than the general public.
I don't even know why they call them law enforcement, if they enforced the laws half of them would be in jail. They serve the Interests of the Elites and ruling classes, they are nothing more than Highly organised criminals. I am surprised the people haven't caught on to this yet. Propaganda and millions of dollars of Government and corporate sponsored PR can do amazing things.
(people like Groink are a perfect example of how naively the public view the Police, probably because he always dreamed of being an enforcer of some sort but didn't quite make it).
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he wanted to murder cops and their families, so the best thing that could have happened, and did happen, was for him to die instead.
he just wanted to throw as much dirt on the police force as possible, before going on his suicide temper tantrum. the guy was a total loser.
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Deadly force
Use of deadly force is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. For example, an armed man in a shopping mall shooting at civilians without regard to the safety of anyone around him, and refusing or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html
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Im usually on the cops side...
But you guys have to admit that this shit smells really funny.
Sure he deserved to die... and if it were a citizen that killed him... i would be all for it..
but for the people who are hired to uphold the law and follow a list of rules and procedures when dealing with criminals to behave like this kind of undermines the whole constitution. Seems like its discarded at their convience.
I knew something was fucked up when they were looking for a gray nissan titan and they shot an electric blue toyota tundra
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Im usually on the cops side...
But you guys have to admit that this shit smells really funny.
Sure he deserved to die... and if it were a citizen that killed him... i would be all for it..
but for the people who are hired to uphold the law and follow a list of rules and procedures when dealing with criminals to behave like this kind of undermines the whole constitution. Seems like its discarded at their convience.
I knew something was fucked up when they were looking for a gray nissan titan and they shot an electric blue toyota tundra
What part of ''armed and extremely dangerous '' don't you understand ?
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What part of ''armed and extremely dangerous '' don't you understand ?
The part where they are looking for a charcoal nissan but put 40 bullets in a blue toyota
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using or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death
An example of significant risk could be as simple as a paraplegic ninety year old blind woman in a wheelchair, getting angry and waving a plastic spoon around. That could easily be life threatening and deserving of an immediate execution. lol
Translation: The police don't need a reason to kill you, they do as they please and get away with it.
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The part where they are looking for a charcoal nissan but put 40 bullets in a blue toyota
You are mixing two completely different stories .
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You are mixing two completely different stories .
and making zero sense in the process
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and making zero sense in the process
Groink ,are we getting trolled here ?
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Alls im saying is the entire ordeal was handled really fucked up.. the "shoot anything moving" methods lead me to think that there might have been some truth to his story as they wanted to kill him instead of take him in.
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Do people really think our government is not killing its own citizens? Silencing people has been going on for a long time. I don’t think this is the case for Dorner. The guy had a break through incident in life (the Navy cutting him.) This caused him to snap. When the government wants to silence a person(s) they do it a lot quieter than this i.e. car brakes, suicide….
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Groink ,are we getting trolled here ?
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lol... calm down suzy.
Youre good with them burning down the house because he posed a threat... if that was legal then the police wouldnt have denied it....correct?
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MCWAY has always supported a total Police State. This is nothing new for him.
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lol... calm down suzy.
Youre good with them burning down the house because he posed a threat... if that was legal then the police wouldnt have denied it....correct?
there you go drawng conclusions that they "intentionally burned down the house with him inside"
they tried to smoke him out, COMMON practice among police dept's....and she shot himself in the head becuase the fat coward knew that the jig was up, he couldn't shoot anymore overmatched uniform police...the big boys were here, and they were going to fuck him up...so like a pussy he checked out.
unfortunately they couldn't be sure, and he was very dangerous, so they let it burn to see if he would come out...he didn't because he was already dead....they didn't even kill him..he commited suicide like a bitch.
THIS will be the truth, when the autopsy report comes back...faggot shot himself
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there you go drawng conclusions that they "intentionally burned down the house with him inside"
they tried to smoke him out, COMMON practice among police dept's....and she shot himself in the head becuase the fat coward knew that the jig was up, he couldn't shoot anymore overmatched uniform police...the big boys were here, and they were going to fuck him up...so like a pussy he checked out.
unfortunately they couldn't be sure, and he was very dangerous, so they let it burn to see if he would come out...he didn't because he was already dead....they didn't even kill him..he commited suicide like a bitch.
THIS will be the truth, when the autopsy report comes back...faggot shot himself
So it was an accident that it was burned down?
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So it was an accident that it was burned down?
it's irrelevant.
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I'm all for cops going "Judge Dredd" on proven killers. I don't agree with how half-assed the whole investigation/search was. You don't shoot first and ask later, unless you know its the perp.
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it's irrelevant.
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!!
it is relevant.
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WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!!
it is relevant.
it's just opinions man.
lots of people here are sayng that this was some sinister plot to burn this guy alive. i don't think so...and from what I conclude based on the facts and not people screaming on the internet is they tried to get him out, he wouldn't budge and kept shooting, the place went up and he didn't leave..they did not intentionally burn him alive, he chose that for himself..and PS he shot himself anyway and was aleady dead.
he had PLENTY of time to get out of there, it wasn't an explosion..he chose his fate.
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he hated cops in general and everything they stood for no matter who they were, all of them.
i bet he when he was a lad there was alot of admiration for the force like many guys here, weather it was running around the house with the stupid little toy gun, hitting ur little sister with over the head with the night stick or porking the neighbors cat its all part of the nurture process. growing up you realize things arent what they seem and Dormer just exploded like a complete emotional lunatic.
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How come PIGS think it is OK to do revenge killings, but they will arrest private citizens for doing the same?
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Why are we arguing over this bullshit?
Dorner killed 4, including two cops as well as multiple other attempts to kill cops. Dorner brought this down on himself.
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Not about Dorner - about Police Executions.
Why are we arguing over this bullshit?
Dorner killed 4, including two cops as well as multiple other attempts to kill cops. Dorner brought this down on himself.
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MCWAY has always supported a total Police State. This is nothing new for him.
I also find it odd that guys posting in this thread who are hoped up on illegal hormones with past addictions are also in support of a police state. But then again, most people who are addicts also have a God complex and truly believe the world revolves around them.lol
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the funny thing is police wont be the biggest problem in times of peril it will probably be gov't paid mercenaries even further above the law than the cops, doing whatever they please much like in new orleans.
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I also find it odd that guys posting in this thread who are hoped up on illegal hormones with past addictions are also in support of a police state. But then again, most people who are addicts also have a God complex and truly believe the world revolves around them.lol
LOL @ you questioning anyone's state of mind.
or at least that's what my "sources" tell me
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Yes
Than he's entitled to full getbig funeral rites. Any thong wearing volunteers available to fly out and conduct the ceremony? ???
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Why are we arguing over this bullshit?
Dorner killed 4, including two cops as well as multiple other attempts to kill cops. Dorner brought this down on himself.
Innocent till proven guilty.
Police can't just murder people.
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particularly when this guy is a whistleblower who had a lot of bad things to say about other cops?
PLENTY of motive to frame, blame, and execute him.
At the VERY least, MCWAY, I dunno how you can just automatically ASSIGN GUILT in all of these crimes to Dorner. He probably did them all - but wouldn't a police department capable of shooting up a truck full of old ladies without warning (actually happened) also be capable of blaming Dorner of some shit that he didn't do?
holy fuck...
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Alls im saying is the entire ordeal was handled really fucked up.. the "shoot anything moving" methods lead me to think that there might have been some truth to his story as they wanted to kill him instead of take him in.
Nope.. had nothing to do with "truth to his story". If executing two innocents point blank while they sat in their car doesn't convince you he is a pyscho then I'm at a loss as to what would. Having been on the other end of a pyscho cop who made things up after being fired, it is more likely he was just a bent individual. Now about the shooting anything that moves.... probably 10,000 similar trucks in the area, maybe more... I think you might be stretching it a bit. That police fired on ANY vehicle that turned out not to be Dorner, that is messed up and should be dealt with approriatley depending on the totality of the circumstance. You know, after several of your co workers are shot, you tend to want to catch this guy pretty bad and you kind a get the feeling he doesnt want to be caught. Don't you think he kind of set the tone for how he was going to be approached when he started blasting at them?
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Thank good they were able to find his wallet in his pocket
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Why are we arguing over this bullshit?
Dorner killed 4, including two cops as well as multiple other attempts to kill cops. Dorner brought this down on himself.
Agreed, through in any instance where a life is taken by an officer or officers, it should be and will be reviewed. Deadly force is an awesome power and an awesome responsibility and review is certainly needed. I will wait for the smoke to clear before deciding if the cops are members of a secrete hit squad that were under orders from Obama to seek and out execute Dorner, or if they were in a tough situation and tried to end the shootout as best they could without more officers getting shot
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Nope.. had nothing to do with "truth to his story". If executing two innocents point blank while they sat in their car doesn't convince you he is a pyscho then I'm at a loss as to what would. Having been on the other end of a pyscho cop who made things up after being fired, it is more likely he was just a bent individual. Now about the shooting anything that moves.... probably 10,000 similar trucks in the area, maybe more... I think you might be stretching it a bit. That police fired on ANY vehicle that turned out not to be Dorner, that is messed up and should be dealt with approriatley depending on the totality of the circumstance. You know, after several of your co workers are shot, you tend to want to catch this guy pretty bad and you kind a get the feeling he doesnt want to be caught. Don't you think he kind of set the tone for how he was going to be approached when he started blasting at them?
This is a logical clear-headed post.
Doesn't go over too well with the tinfoil hat brigade.
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Agreed, through in any instance where a life is taken by an officer or officers, it should be and will be reviewed. Deadly force is an awesome power and an awesome responsibility and review is certainly needed. I will wait for the smoke to clear before deciding if the cops are members of a secrete hit squad that were under orders from Obama to seek and out execute Dorner, or if they were in a tough situation and tried to end the shootout as best they could without more officers getting shot
see my above post.
apparently, Dorner makes (made...hahahahaha) the rules and you're allowed to shoot innocent police because you got fired, and the police are supposed to sit there and let you kill them as they ask you nicely to surrender.
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This is a logical clear-headed post.
Doesn't go over too well with the tinfoil hat brigade.
Still grasping the idea there are people who feel sorry for Dorner because the bad police ended up having to kill him.
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Still grasping the idea there are people who feel sorry for Dorner because the bad police ended up having to kill him.
+1.
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The police already mistakenly murdered innocent people in their hunt for Dorner. They could have just as easily burnt innocent people in this cabin.
Police aren't Judge, jury and executioner for good reason.
I find it funny that the same idiots that don't care about our 2nd amendment rights also don't mind police executing people.
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Still grasping the idea there are people who feel sorry for Dorner because the bad police ended up having to kill him.
are you familiar with the American Justice system?
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there needs to be an Internal investigation against the Dept of Internal Affairs for LAPD , those fuckers are probably as crooked as the cops themselves
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The police already mistakenly murdered innocent people in their hunt for Dorner. They could have just as easily burnt innocent people in this cabin.
Police aren't Judge, jury and executioner for good reason.
I find it funny that the same idiots that don't care about our 2nd amendment rights also don't mind police executing people.
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Who did they murder?
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are you familiar with the American Justice system?
are you familiar with police procedure?
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are you familiar with police procedure?
I am, the police cannot legally murder people.
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are you familiar with police procedure?
We know you are. ;D ;D
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Deadly force was the only option in this situation ,it was completely justified and will not even be heard in any judges courtroom , I hope this helps.
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Poor Dorner
Hope the pigs that burned him gets torches as well, by MS13.
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They were out to murder him, why did they open fire on the two women in the truck the way they did? ???
(http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/assets/images/content/truck-shot-by-lapd-in-dorner.jpeg)
http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/lapd-terrorizes-community-in.html
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The police already mistakenly murdered innocent people in their hunt for Dorner. They could have just as easily burnt innocent people in this cabin.
Police aren't Judge, jury and executioner for good reason.
I find it funny that the same idiots that don't care about our 2nd amendment rights also don't mind police executing people.
Link?
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I am, the police cannot legally murder people.
LOL...Lethal force.
google it.
These threads are funny. people really are saying with a straight face that the police weren't justified killing someone shooting directly at them and refusing to surrender.
up next....Ernie Taylor's triceps were real
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it's pretty obvious that people who are more successful in life tend to side with official stories, while people who are less successful tend to love conspiracies. the former group typically doesn't need "excuses" or alternate explanations to feel better about themselves, while the latter does.
that said, neither neither side can be certain the other is wrong.
as for my own take on the subject...
the police shot random people, crashed into a random person, and maybe intentionally burnt someone's house down... wtf
you can take whomever's side you want, but good luck arguing either side was "guilt free"
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Innocent till proven guilty.
Police can't just murder people.
There is a process in place in America for people accused of crimes. However, when said person shoots at you when you try to introduce him to that process, there are processes in place for addressing that too. Dorner could have given up at any time, called a TV station, met with an attorney to work out a public surrender if he was concerned about dirty cops. The fact is, he said he wouldn't be taken alive, he shot and killed officers and was shooting at officers at or near the time of his death. You guys crack me up... hate cops so much that even a murderer like Dorner who killed more than just cops...get's your sympathy and you find a way to blame the cops because they couldn't take him alive...I'm thinking there wasn't a scenrio in existance you wouldn't find fault with the cops.
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it's pretty obvious that people who are more successful in life tend to side with official stories, while people who are less successful tend to love conspiracies. the former group typically doesn't need "excuses" or alternate explanations to feel better about themselves, while the latter does.
that said, neither neither side can be certain the other is wrong.
as for my own take on the subject...
the police shot random people, crashed into a random person, and maybe intentionally burnt someone's house down... wtf
you can take whomever's side you want, but good luck arguing either side was "guilt free"
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True, cops shooting at people who turn out not to be the bad guy is never good. While I can see situations where it's damned if you do, damned if you don't, ultimately at the end of the day, you are responsible for your actions.
but for me... the clear bad guy here was Dorner. Not even close
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Ernie Taylors Triceps were Real!
GIMME 10 NAMES!!
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There is a process in place in America for people accused of crimes. However, when said person shoots at you when you try to introduce him to that process, there are processes in place for addressing that too. Dorner could have given up at any time, called a TV station, met with an attorney to work out a public surrender if he was concerned about dirty cops. The fact is, he said he wouldn't be taken alive, he shot and killed officers and was shooting at officers at or near the time of his death. You guys crack me up... hate cops so much that even a murderer like Dorner who killed more than just cops...get's your sympathy and you find a way to blame the cops because they couldn't take him alive...I'm thinking there wasn't a scenrio in existance you wouldn't find fault with the cops.
I don't hate police, I'm a huge supporter/defender of police, you can see that in my post history. I'm a member of the FOP.
I do have a problem with police burning down houses, and riddling cars with bullets the way they did in the 1920's and 30's though.
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True, cops shooting at people who turn out not to be the bad guy is never good. While I can see situations where it's damned if you do, damned if you don't, ultimately at the end of the day, you are responsible for your actions.
but for me... the clear bad guy here was Dorner. Not even close
No question, don't get me wrong here.
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This Guys Speaks the truth .... Breaks it down even for the dummies
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I like this guy's segments.
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I like this guy's segments.
I read that RT is trying to steal him away from the local station he works at! :o
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I read that RT is trying to steal him away from the local station he works at! :o
Well I'm subscribed to RT already. They speak the truth also.
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Well I'm subscribed to RT already. They speak the truth also.
It's pretty sad that you have to go to Russia Today for balanced news. :-\
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This Guys Speaks the truth .... Breaks it down even for the dummies
nothing new here...LOL. three day old audio we all heard as it happened.
he just draws conclusions...the idiot said it himself..."two different conversations going on here"
a very simple question, if it's illegal to use CS gas and possibly cause a fire...why do SWAT teams even carry it? why would it be OK'ed to do...knowing FULL WELL there are 800 members of the media listening and watching ?
it's a non-issue....nothing will come of it...they broke no rules. but you guys enjoy jumping up and down about it.
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It's pretty sad that you have to go to Russia Today for balanced news. :-\
LOL. It's the world we live in brah.
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I'm tired of all of this violence. Where is the pic of Wiggs cuddling the snow-white kitten?
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nothing new here...LOL. three day old audio we all heard as it happened.
he just draws conclusions...the idiot said it himself..."two different conversations going on here"
a very simple question, if it's illegal to use CS gas and possibly cause a fire...why do SWAT teams even carry it? why would it be OK'ed to do...knowing FULL WELL there are 800 members of the media listening and watching ?
it's a non-issue....nothing will come of it...they broke no rules. but you guys enjoy jumping up and down about it.
1. Who said it was illegal? It's not illegal. They can legally carry it. It's highly flammable when you you shoot 7 cans of it ON PURPOSE to INTENTIONALLY START A FIRE. While having an excuse to say, "oh, it wasn't on purpose". The general public doesn't know nor care about how this stuff works and will just chop it up to an accident. The audio tells everything. I don't expect you to get it. You're an idiot.
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I'm tired of all of this violence. Where is the pic of Wiggs cuddling the snow-white kitten?
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1. Who said it was illegal? It's not illegal. They can legally carry it. It's highly flammable when you you shoot 7 cans of it ON PURPOSE to INTENTIONALLY START A FIRE. While having an excuse to say, "oh, it wasn't on purpose". The general public doesn't know nor care about how this stuff works and will just chop it up to an accident. The audio tells everything. I don't expect you to get it. You're an idiot.
this lol
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1. Who said it was illegal? It's not illegal. They can legally carry it. It's highly flammable when you you shoot 7 cans of it ON PURPOSE to INTENTIONALLY START A FIRE. While having an excuse to say, "oh, it wasn't on purpose". The general public doesn't know nor care about how this stuff works and will just chop it up to an accident. The audio tells everything. I don't expect you to get it. You're an idiot.
LOL.....you calling anyone on the planet an idiot. How's that "end of the world" thing working out for you ?
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Look at the logic behind it? If one can is supposed to work in most cases, hell even two. Why didn't they start with that and increase if those didn't work? It's because they had no intention of smoking him out. They used SEVEN 7. Knowing they were highly flammable to BURN HIM OUT as they said verbatim on audio.
Only an idiot couldn't put this together....oh wait... ::)
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Look at the logic behind it? If one can is supposed to work in most cases, hell even two. Why didn't they start with that and increase if those didn't work? It's because they had no intention of smoking him out. They used SEVEN 7. Knowing they were highly flammable to BURN HIM OUT as they said verbatim on audio.
Only an idiot couldn't put this together....oh wait... ::)
They used conventional gas first...it didn't work.
I'm no expert (neither are you) but I willl say it was a pretty big cabin and who knows what room he is in, if he's got doors closed...He said himself "I know your countermeasures and I am prepared".
is 7 a lot of containers for a large multi-level, mutli-room dwelling? i don't know, neither do you.
and for the 90th time....the cops adminitering the CS gas referred to it as "the burn"....common terminology for CS gas as has been explained 76 times.
some cop on the sidelines got all excited at the fire and said "were gonna burn this motherfuckerout".
get your facts straight.
imbecile.
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The police already mistakenly murdered innocent people in their hunt for Dorner. They could have just as easily burnt innocent people in this cabin.
Police aren't Judge, jury and executioner for good reason.
I find it funny that the same idiots that don't care about our 2nd amendment rights also don't mind police executing people.
its ridiculous that they are supporting this. we dont live in a society where you can gather an angry mob and burn someone out of revenge, and for a good reason. emotions just need to be left out of it.
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its ridiculous that they are supporting this. we dont live in a society where you can gather an angry mob and burn someone out of revenge, and for a good reason. emotions just need to be left out of it.
What would you do if your house caught on fire?
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What would you do if your house caught on fire?
shoot at the person starting the fire out of self defense.
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its ridiculous that they are supporting this. we dont live in a society where you can gather an angry mob and burn someone out of revenge, and for a good reason. emotions just need to be left out of it.
No we live in a society where a cop killer refuses to give up shoots at police and even with the fire burning likely had an opportunity to come out with his hands up, which may have been part of the plan. But instead he might have blown his brains out rather than surrender, again, after killing multiple people, and some people will whine about it. That's the society we live in
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shoot at the person starting the fire out of self defense.
Then you would like burn up too. However this wasn't "his" house and he wasn't acting in self defense.
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Then you would like burn up too. However this wasn't "his" house and he wasn't acting in self defense.
so did dorner shoot at them before they started the fire? no such thing as a dumb question on here btw :D
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so did dorner shoot at them before they started the fire? no such thing as a dumb question on here btw :D
Don't know for certain, haven't watched a lot of news coverage. I get all my news here. But... when you shoot a cop dead, then run into a vacant cabin trying to escape, you do lose the right to claim self defense, you know that right?
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No one remembers Waco, huh?
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No one remembers Waco, huh?
Great little truck stop off 35 there. Chicken Fried Steak like it was meant to be
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Don't know for certain, haven't watched a lot of news coverage. I get all my news here. But... when you shoot a cop dead, then run into a vacant cabin trying to escape, you do lose the right to claim self defense, you know that right?
to me that depends on if he shot at the surrounding cops first, since i dont know if he did i cant say. but there is a difference between an armed standoff and all out war.
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Some standoffs last hours and even days. Good to see this one didn't drag out and become too stressful.
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but armed standoffs are great overtime and pensionable hours for the pigs.
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Some standoffs last hours and even days.
Only if hostages are involved.
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Some standoffs last hours and even days. Good to see this one didn't drag out and become too stressful.
Good thing they executed their "burn plan".
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but armed standoffs are great overtime and pensionable hours for the pigs.
Not all departments. Our pension isn't based on overtime, it's just base pay
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Dorner went all Oscar Pistorius.
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The Hierarchy's media already moved on to the cruise ship and blade runner... Looks like Dorner is yesterday's news.
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No, they don't. That chump killed four people, including a deputy, in cold blood, before barricading himself in that cabin. He murdered a woman, who was a college basketball coach.
And, you're whining because he probably got barbecued, in a firefight with the cops? PLEASE!!
If that charred corpse is indeed that of Dorner, it simply means the taxpayers don't have to subsizide this bum for 20 years before he gets executed.
Well said. But don't expect 240 to understand. He is a confused trailer park white liberal who has gone on record saying he has been shit on more by whites than blacks. He can't relate to whites apparently.
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The Hierarchy's media already moved on to the cruise ship and blade runner... Looks like Dorner is yesterday's news.
The blade runner incident is now being hyped as the catalyst for even tougher gun control in South Africa while the innocent public is getting slaughtered by savages with illegal weapons. See, this is how the hierarchy operates.
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.......good!
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The blade runner incident is now being hyped as the catalyst for even tougher gun control in South Africa while the innocent public is getting slaughtered by savages with illegal weapons. See, this is how the hierarchy operates.
Wasn't the girl Oscar murdered a part of the innocent public, and doesn't that make the Blade Runner a savage? How do you differentiate between a savage who murders someone and a non savage who murders someone?
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Not all departments. Our pension isn't based on overtime, it's just base pay
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sorry ossifer
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Boy.. They can make a conspiracy out of anything... He ran into the cabin.. They fired tear gas into the cabin to draw him out.. He stated that he would die before arrested.. The tear gas caught the wood structure on fire.. He knew the gig was up and offed himself.. The fire dept was kept Away for their own safety.. The guy was armed and the cops had no idea he was dead...I swear there must be millions of dollars to be made on the gullible....
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Not all tear gas is flammable. One would think that cops wouldn't be allowed to have access to the canisters that can cause fires.
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Wasn't the girl Oscar murdered a part of the innocent public, and doesn't that make the Blade Runner a savage? How do you differentiate between a savage who murders someone and a non savage who murders someone?
The "Blade Runner" incident is an extremely rare, isolated occurrence.
Savages raping and murdering white people who cannot legally defend themselves is very common.
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Not all tear gas is flammable. One would think that cops wouldn't be allowed to have access to the canisters that can cause fires.
yeah, they tried the non flammable. When I was on SRT we needed a Commanders approval before deploying CS gas because it is such a strong and tenacious product and the heat issue. But in the case where we had a barricaded subject such as the Dormer dude, it would likely be authorized. Not worth losing another life over a piece of work like Dormer.
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yeah, they tried the non flammable. When I was on SRT we needed a Commanders approval before deploying CS gas because it is such a strong and tenacious product and the heat issue. But in the case where we had a barricaded subject such as the Dormer dude, it would likely be authorized. Not worth losing another life over a piece of work like Dormer.
Apparently cops aren't allowed to value their lives, or place them above a psychopath who is shooting at them...his welfare and "human rights" are what's important, and if he kills 12 or so in an all-night standoff, hey that's life...or death, I mean.
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Apparently cops aren't allowed to value their lives, or place them above a psychopath who is shooting at them...his welfare and "human rights" are what's important, and if he kills 12 or so in an all-night standoff, hey that's life...or death, I mean.
Yeah, pretty f*cked up when people are whining about the use of CS gas and catching the place on fire because of it's use. It wasn't Mickey Friggin Mouse holed up in there.
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What the fuck are people argueing over? The dumb fuck (Dorner) went about this the wrong way. I'm sure some of the brass at the LAPD, are corrupt. It doesn't mean you start going on a killing spree! Dorner deserved to die. Remember, the police are just like a gang, you kill a cop, and all bets are off.
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Executed? Isn't that the point?
Last time I heard that's usually how you stop a murdering psycho on a rampage.