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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: galeniko on February 18, 2013, 12:16:23 PM
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I used it once and didn't particularly enjoy it. Didn't feel like I worked much harder, just felt weird.
Would rather do ECA.
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Parents of dead soldier sue Jack3d maker
The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Feb 15, 2013 9:34:00 EST
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2013/02/ap-parents-of-dead-soldier-michael-sparling-sue-jack3d-021513/
SAN DIEGO — Parents of a soldier who died after taking a dietary supplement called Jack3d have sued the makers and retailer for wrongful death.
U-T San Diego says Michael Sparling’s family sued Wednesday in San Diego.
Sparling died of a heart attack in 2011 after collapsing during physical training at the Army’s Fort Bliss in Texas. He’d been taking Jack3d before workouts.
The supplement contains DMAA, which the suit claims can cause heart problems.
The military pulled the supplement from its store shelves after Sparling and another soldier died.
U-T San Diego says the supplement maker, USPLabs, and the ingredient producer, San Marcos-based Natural Alternatives International, didn’t immediately respond to comment requests. Retailer GNC said it doesn’t comment on pending litigation.
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i wouldnt touch it, Gal. Took a dose one time and it made me edgy with a hint of paranoia. And I'm saying that as aguy who loves stimulants. I can down a bottle of adderall and chase it with a bottle of ECA LOL!
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i used it and my buddies as well
works great the first times you use it (or placebo)
gets bad fast
high blood pressure i think (blocked ears during workout)
and also bad crashing after the gym
do not recommend/10
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i wouldnt touch it, Gal. Took a dose one time and it made me edgy with a hint of paranoia. And I'm saying that as aguy who loves stimulants. I can down a bottle of adderall and chase it with a bottle of ECA LOL!
If true then that really is saying something!
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I took some today actually pre workout. I love the stuff. I use it before most of my workouts
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poison wrapped in snake oil
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thanks, so it indeed has some kind of effect,it seems.
i cant use efedrina for legal reasons :-[
looking for a god upper,and appetite killer.
I think they changed the formula. You want the older stuff with 1,3 or dmaa. It is a stimulant made from geranium.
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all these shitty new age stims are just caffine bombs with a pinch of pseudo and garbage like beta alanine/dmaa in them
they just make you flush, itchy, tingly and feel like crap after a workout with no mental boost
EC shits all over them
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i heard some shit going on around jack 3d...i think some ppl died from that crap ..and its a big deal right now...u could google it guys...but thats what i heard ...i think exactly the same story what happened to hydroxycut!
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name address phone number DOB pass the lube
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It makes your dick limp. Many ppl had this problem.
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If it kilt someone, I need to pick-up a gallon or two....
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If it kilt someone, I need to pick-up a gallon or two....
before the govment comes and takes it away
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before the govment comes and takes it away
Exactly. You know something actually works when the govt and FDA are bitching about it.
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all these shitty new age stims are just caffine bombs with a pinch of pseudo and garbage like beta alanine/dmaa in them
they just make you flush, itchy, tingly and feel like crap after a workout with no mental boost
EC shits all over them
Amen! They keep experimenting with all these shitty new compounds trying to find one that works like ephedra. The ECA stack ruled and still does. Sucks they took it away because some assholes died using it irresponsibly
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thanks, so it indeed has some kind of effect,it seems.
i cant use efedrina for legal reasons :-[
looking for a god upper,and appetite killer.
You know the best pre-workout stack already Gal. Injecting steroids and drinking some coffee LOL!
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so it has no efedrine in it but is an upper?
then its useful,no doubt.
does it kill apetite?
It made me edgy though, in a bad way. Ephedra gave me a boost, KILLED appetite, and saw no side effects at all. I couldnt say if jack3d curbed appetite since I only used the one serving and stopped immediately
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I love this product, but in the hands of FOOLS, yes it will be banned soon.
The best time to use this product is after a long exhausting day, no motivation, no focus at all.
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Iwmi
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I love this product, but in the hands of FOOLS, yes it will be banned soon.
The best time to use this product is after a long exhausting day, no motivation, no focus at all.
Hopefully there will be no well publicized stories of bank robbers using it ala Ultimate Orange :-X
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Exactly. You know something actually works when the govt and FDA are bitching about it.
effectively lethal
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I love this product, but in the hands of FOOLS, yes it will be banned soon.
The best time to use this product is after a long exhausting day, no motivation, no focus at all.
Out of shape morons get all the supplements that actually work banned for the rest of us. "Oh I'm 35% bf and need to lose weight fast so I should probably take 5x the recommended dose. I probably shouldnt drink any water either today and go sit in a sauna"
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Out of shape morons get all the supplements that actually work banned for the rest of us. "Oh I'm 35% bf and need to lose weight fast so I should probably take 5x the recommended dose. I probably shouldnt drink any water either today and go sit in a sauna"
THIS!
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Hopefully there will be no well publicized stories of bank robbers using it ala Ultimate Orange :-X
Yo Ultimate Orange was the shit! Now that shit worked awesome. I can remember taking some pre-workout and a serving of the origanal hydroxycut, which worked amazing also. I was so amped driving to the gym, my whole body was like a coiled spring
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cocaine would give you a better rush
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Yo Ultimate Orange was the shit! Now that shit worked awesome. I can remember taking some pre-workout and a serving of the origanal hydroxycut, which worked amazing also. I was so amped driving to the gym, my whole body was like a coiled spring
Haha yeah I remember buying some when I was 16 at GNC and was blown away by how improved my workouts were (had never taken a supplement except for that shitty MLO protein powder at that point)
My mom seen the canister and researched it a bit and make me take it back cause she thought it was like speed or something. >:(
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I've used it. Thought it was a good product. I like 1MR by BPI more though.
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Like others have said, it gives you a burst, followed by a crash. It made me very jittery too. I still have 4 canisters of it. I believe it has creatine in it as well.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/business/death-after-use-of-jack3d-shows-gap-in-regulation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
They removed the dmaa
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the bottle my frend has at home has this dmaa in it, clearly remember,as i asked myself wth is this dmaa
jacked changed their recipe I believe and removed the psycho drug. Ur friend may hve an old bottle. It truly was like a psychotropic. I still wouldn't touch the shit.
So two Qs
Why not just drink coffee. That one helluva an app suppressant
N how can u get in trouble for ephedra but not steroids? R they diff classes of drugs in your country?
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Many stores still have the old formula. Allstarhealth has it for $23.
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steroids noone cares about, you get script easy.
efedra shows up as amphetamine in the driving quick tests, if that shows positive here, youre in so much trouble, you wouldnt believe it.
I must have misread that post from you. I thought you were saying ephedra was an option for you, oops. Hmm, personally if I'm on cycle I dont need a pre-workout. The AAS in my system has me ready to smash through a brickwall LOL!
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whats so hard in just working out.. going home and eating
i watched a clip with jason huh
he had 3 shakes to work out all different
pre workout, a shake during working out.. and one after...
also tupperware chicken :-\
no wonder these guys kidneys dont last....
all that for what has he ever even won a pro show?
(shakes head)
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With the negative press on DMAA it has now changed to these "dendrobium extracts" which IME feels even more potent than DMAA. It's not an extract of anything of course,
pure synthetic compounds, who knows which exactly. They are replacing one designer drug for another.
Ephedrine beats all this stuff though. No reason for any of that if you can get ephedrine.
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I like it...goes good with some waterrrr...i have the old formula, gets me in the zone-ski.
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yes, but that was precisely the point, efedrine is no option.
so what is it in this jacked that makes for the boost?
i have to know before i mess up with the driving licence :-X
It's the DMAA and it was introduced by Patrick Arnold years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine
If it's that important to not pop for something legal then make sure that DMAA doesn't cause false positives either.
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thx man, ill check if its on the list.
how long before workout is one supposed to take this btw?
someone suggested coffee, lol, i already drink coffee all day
Take 30min-1hr before workout.