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Nevada is considering a bill that would require drug testing for people receiving public aid.
Any thoughts on this?
Are there any other states with such a law or considering such a law?
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Nevada is considering a bill that would require drug testing for people receiving public aid.
Any thoughts on this?
Are there any other states with such a law or considering such a law?
What about all those folk using weed, with undiagnosable mental disorders?
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RAT, Good questions, but those are the things that the politicians will have to iron our before anything like this is adopted.
Are there really such 'illnesses' as undiagnosable mental disorders?
I personally know a couple of individuals who receive a hell of a lot of public aid in the form of 'prescriptions' ...... who use those prescriptions to trade with other individuals who receive similar public aid.
In fact one just passed away as a result of an overdose.
I'm no expert in these matters but it does appear that the medical profession is somewhat careless when it comes to prescribing drugs to individuals who use them inappropriately or sell them to others in order to pay the rent or purchase stronger drugs.
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RAT, Good questions, but those are the things that the politicians will have to iron our before anything like this is adopted.
Are there really such 'illnesses' as undiagnosable mental disorders?
I personally know a couple of individuals who receive a hell of a lot of public aid in the form of 'prescriptions' ...... who use those prescriptions to trade with other individuals who receive similar public aid.
In fact one just passed away as a result of an overdose.
I'm no expert in these matters but it does appear that the medical profession is somewhat careless when it comes to prescribing drugs to individuals who use them inappropriately or sell them to others in order to pay the rent or purchase stronger drugs.
I'd say over 50 percent plus of the crazy folk are either misdiagnosed, or not diagnosed at all.
You have to understand how bullshit the pysc community is, aside from the truly delusional most crazies are not clearly identified.
Well I guess as resident retard, I can tell you doctors don't gotta clue with what drugs there giving out, which is why I'd far rather a person smoke weed, than get onto harder shit.
Drug meds, work for only the tinniest fraction of the population, the rest is all guess work.
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All these idiots that are abusing prescription drugs will probably get a pass (and their drugs paid for).
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All these idiots that are abusing prescription drugs will probably get a pass (and their drugs paid for).
Yes well this may actually force more people on them. Which I'd guess is something the big pharmies would love.
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This is all solved if the government offered 5000$ to anyone who will be sterilized. People would line up abound the block and people who have no business having kids won't have them. Or at least have less of them
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This is all solved if the government offered 5000$ to anyone who will be sterilized. People would line up abound the block and people who have no business having kids won't have them. Or at least have less of them
hell, i'd sign up to be sterilized for 5k and i'm not even on the welfare.
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This is all solved if the government offered 5000$ to anyone who will be sterilized. People would line up abound the block and people who have no business having kids won't have them. Or at least have less of them
So being the only country in the world that don't got major immigration issues is a problem?
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Yes yes yes yes. I get drug tested regularly and my hard earned dollars support people on social assistance. Damn right they should be tested.
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Congrats to Hal Brett Needham on his 2013 Oscar
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This is all solved if the government offered 5000$ to anyone who will be sterilized. People would line up abound the block and people who have no business having kids won't have them. Or at least have less of them
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Tax incentives for accomplished people to reproduce.
eugenics
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Eugenics
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Eugenics
Yes, Eugenics
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This sounds a lot like eugenics
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Anyone with a job should be outraged this isn't In place already!!
Most of people with jobs already take piss tests willingly.
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There's a larger issue here. Rich people need poor people so there is a vested interest in keeping them poor and on drugs. Welfare/prisons/churches fried chicken. These are big employers.
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airsol may be right if NO slave class then WHO slaves for the rich? NOT other rich
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Anyone with a job should be outraged this isn't In place already!!
Most of people with jobs already take piss tests willingly.
If I refuse drug tests I lose my job. I have no problem with that.
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If I refuse drug tests I lose my job. I have no problem with that.
If you ever find that you need a handsome young man to hold the cup for you while you piss, feel free to give me a jingle jangle... 8)
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So what happens to those who fail the drug testing and are denied public assistance? They don't get to pay their rent, utilities, or buy food and other essential supplies(iphones) for their children. You then put more people on the street, who often end up becoming recycled within the criminal justice system. Now with a criminal background and no essential technical skills, you end up having someone dangerous walking around on the streets.
Those of us with jobs are held to higher standards than those who do not, so often we must subject ourselves to things like drug testing, psych evals, polygraphs, interviewing, and other standard testing.
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So what happens to those who fail the drug testing and are denied public assistance? They don't get to pay their rent, utilities, or buy food and other essential supplies(iphones) for their children. You then put more people on the street, who often end up becoming recycled within the criminal justice system. Now with a criminal background and no essential technical skills, you end up having someone dangerous walking around on the streets.
Those of us with jobs are held to higher standards than those who do not, so often we must subject ourselves to things like drug testing, psych evals, polygraphs, interviewing, and other standard testing.
Maybe we should just start euthanizing criminals? ???
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airsol may be right if NO slave class then WHO slaves for the rich? NOT other rich
Middle class is too stupid to get rich and too stupid to know that they need the poor beneath them to look down upon. Without the poor, the middle becomes the new standard of poor. And as far as drug testing the poor? They'll either jump to more public aid in pharma products or use more tax payers money when their sent to prison. Prison cost the tax payer more money then public aid.
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Should be state and federal law.
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Maybe we should just start euthanizing criminals? ???
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So what happens to those who fail the drug testing and are denied public assistance? They don't get to pay their rent, utilities, or buy food and other essential supplies(iphones) for their children. You then put more people on the street, who often end up becoming recycled within the criminal justice system. Now with a criminal background and no essential technical skills, you end up having someone dangerous walking around on the streets.
Those of us with jobs are held to higher standards than those who do not, so often we must subject ourselves to things like drug testing, psych evals, polygraphs, interviewing, and other standard testing.
great point there are plenty of homeless shelters
also prisons should be work camps
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Anyone with a job should be outraged this isn't In place already!!
Most of people with jobs already take piss tests willingly.
Dude, most companies i know about, or worked at, dont drug test. Unless you're working fast food or something, no test.
But, anyway i agree. Being that most people on aid are trying to get a job, testing should be preformed.
no point in test old retired people tho.
What about all those folk using weed, with undiagnosable mental disorders?
Medical Marijuana?
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If I refuse drug tests I lose my job. I have no problem with that.
We have no drug testing in the entertainment industry.
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Testing the poor sounds awfully expensive...These people using drugs and receiving public assistance will find too many ways of beating these tests. One thing is for sure, poor people are survivors who can be MacGyver creative. This just seems to me to be more War are drugs type of talk that is counter productive. Also the Hierarchy loves to have its citizens arguing among themselves about shit like this. If the middle class keep pointing their finger at the mental ill poor, then nobody will be looking at whats going on up top. Be wary of any man who is sitting near the top who continually wants to talk about the mental ill poor. Because he's probably just trying to create a divide between the middle and the poor so no one looks at him.
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Dude, most companies i know about, or worked at, dont drug test. Unless you're working fast food or something, no test.
But, anyway i agree. Being that most people on aid are trying to get a job, testing should be preformed.
no point in test old retired people tho.
Medical Marijuana?
Pretty much every local government job like cop or firemen drug test. ANY hospital position drug tests.
ANY position at a bank drug tests. Most retail jobs drug test.
ALL school & college jobs drug test. Etc etc
These people receiving public aid ie free money don't have to??
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Pretty much every local government job like cop or firemen drug test. ANY hospital position drug tests.
ANY position at a bank drug tests. Most retail jobs drug test.
ALL school & college jobs drug test. Etc etc
These people receiving public aid ie free money don't have to??
Politcians fought drug testing for themselves. Had it deemed unconstitutional. Kind of ironic.
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My job claims to test 30% of employees a year. I've been there 7 years and never been tested
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The GOP here in Louisiana are always trying to pass this, but the Demos shoot it down bc it is picking on the poor ???. David Vitter was one of the first to push this years ago.
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Politcians fought drug testing for themselves. Had it deemed unconstitutional. Kind of ironic.
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This is all solved if the government offered 5000$ to anyone who will be sterilized. People would line up abound the block and people who have no business having kids won't have them. Or at least have less of them
Yes. There should be a standing incentive like this. So "funny" how it is avoided.
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Again... IF NO slave class... then WHO will slave for the rich? NOT other rich.
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Focus on the little guy. Plenty of bullying for your buck, with little chance of retribution, and it keeps the heat off the real criminals.
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Again... IF NO slave class... then WHO will slave for the rich? NOT other rich.
Yes, I hear you.
The idea is to make things very inconvenient for those who would enslave others.
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Events are staged, laws are written,
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Exactly!
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Nevada is considering a bill that would require drug testing for people receiving public aid.
Any thoughts on this?
Are there any other states with such a law or considering such a law?
Here is your answer from my state:
Indiana House Passes Bill To Drug Screen Welfare Recipients
2/26/2013 7:30 PM ET
The Indiana House of Representatives has passed a bill to drug test some state welfare recipients, allowing the state to withdraw benefits from recipients if they fail the test.
USA Today reports that the bill, which passed 78-17 on Monday, allows for the state to drug screen those who are receiving temporary assistance for needy families.
"What we're trying to do is give somebody a hand up instead of a handout," said Republican Jud McMillin, of Brookville, Indiana, who wrote the bill.
According to the bill, applicants will be selected randomly for drug screening based on a survey made to help identify people who are likely to use drugs.
The bill is set to cost the state approximately $500,000, on top of the cost of administering the program, but is also expected to save the state $1.5 million.
In order to qualify for receiving temporary assistance for needy families, a family of three can bring home no more than $288 dollars a week.
by RTT Staff Writer
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By the way, myself, I would reword the proposition, so it would leave an open door for the future.
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Events are staged, laws are written,
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Exactly!
Yes, Brother. It plays itself through, every single day.
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Here is your answer from my state:
Indiana House Passes Bill To Drug Screen Welfare Recipients
2/26/2013 7:30 PM ET
The Indiana House of Representatives has passed a bill to drug test some state welfare recipients, allowing the state to withdraw benefits from recipients if they fail the test.
USA Today reports that the bill, which passed 78-17 on Monday, allows for the state to drug screen those who are receiving temporary assistance for needy families.
"What we're trying to do is give somebody a hand up instead of a handout," said Republican Jud McMillin, of Brookville, Indiana, who wrote the bill.
According to the bill, applicants will be selected randomly for drug screening based on a survey made to help identify people who are likely to use drugs.
The bill is set to cost the state approximately $500,000, on top of the cost of administering the program, but is also expected to save the state $1.5 million.
In order to qualify for receiving temporary assistance for needy families, a family of three can bring home no more than $288 dollars a week.
by RTT Staff Writer
Seems short sided...There's no way they could possibly predict how many of these people will end up in the prison system once their assistance gets pulled. And how many more cops they'll need once people become homeless.