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Not sure of the exact details yet, but I'm hearing 6 year 120 million. I'm excited, if its cap friendly, upinthemguts, what say you?
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20 million a year to a guy that has never even been a pro bowl alternate is not cap friendly, though it is cap friendly for rivals of the ravens
for the last couple years i thought flacco was underrated, he is now the most overrated player in nfl history
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last time I checked ppl didnt measure their careers based on how many pro bowl apperances they made ::)
He isnt a flashy QB and he has benefited from a good team but he knows how not to lose a game and that is a handy skill set.
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last time I checked ppl didnt measure their careers based on how many pro bowl apperances they made ::)
He isnt a flashy QB and he has benefited from a good team but he knows how not to lose a game and that is a handy skill set.
actually they do, flacco isn't going to the hall of fame with his resume, marino made it without the super bowl
your description of him makes him sound mediocre yet you still think he should be the highest paid player ever ::)
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actually they do, flacco isn't going to the hall of fame with his resume, marino made it without the super bowl
your description of him makes him sound mediocre yet you still think he should be the highest paid player ever ::)
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LOL you sound like an epic bitter sport their earl. At the end of the day it doesnt matter how many pro bowls you go to, so what marino made it to canton without a super bowl. Anytime his name is brought up in regards to where he stands in QB's you know the fact he never won a super bowl is going to be brought up. You never hear that "they never went to the pro bowl" in those conversations.
Give me a fucking break marion would trade every one of his pro bowl apperances for just one super bowl win and you fucking know it.
He is a 2nd tier QB who knows how to manage a game probably better than 99% of the QBs in the game today. He made a lot of progress this past season and we saw him make passes he has never made before.
Im not saying he is worth what they are paying him but he is a good QB, there isnt any denying that.
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The contract Flacco signed is cap friendly for 2013. The Ravens are now basically 12 million under the cap for '13, which gives them flexbility to re-sign ILB Ellerbe and LT Mckinnie.
The contract pays Flacco 51 million over the next two seasons so obviously...the Ravens will ask Flacco to restructure the deal after the 2015 season because his cap number will be astronomical.
Of course he's not worth the money....no player in the NFL is worth that kind of money. But it's not Flacco's fault that he expected to be paid based on market value. That being said....I'm curious to see if he can live up to the contract over the next two seasons. Because to be honest...he's never tossed more than 25 TD passes in a season.
But after a stellar playoff run throwing 11 TD's and ZERO int's...Flacco may just be hitting his stride. Torrey Smith is only going to get better. And The Ravens will find a way to keep Boldin for the 2013 season. Flacco and Boldin were red-hot down the stretch.
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20 million a year to a guy that has never even been a pro bowl alternate is not cap friendly, though it is cap friendly for rivals of the ravens
for the last couple years i thought flacco was underrated, he is now the most overrated player in nfl history
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In history??? Dude you post some silly sounding shit sometimes. Sounds like a bitter Steelers fan if I ever heard one. Enjoy another 7-9 or 8-8 season in '13. Half your starting defense is older than fuckin' Dick Lebeau at this point.
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LOL you sound like an epic bitter sport their earl. At the end of the day it doesnt matter how many pro bowls you go to, so what marino made it to canton without a super bowl. Anytime his name is brought up in regards to where he stands in QB's you know the fact he never won a super bowl is going to be brought up. You never hear that "they never went to the pro bowl" in those conversations.
Give me a fucking break marion would trade every one of his pro bowl apperances for just one super bowl win and you fucking know it.
He is a 2nd tier QB who knows how to manage a game probably better than 99% of the QBs in the game today. He made a lot of progress this past season and we saw him make passes he has never made before.
Im not saying he is worth what they are paying him but he is a good QB, there isnt any denying that.
marino would not trade his spot in the hall for a ring, he's an idiot if he would, i bet you don't even know who mark rypien is, hint he's a qb that was a super bowl mvp 20 years ago
winning the super bowl takes a team effort, flacco did nothing in the 2nd half of the super bowl when 49ers made their comeback, jacoby jones should've been mvp
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In history??? Dude you post some silly sounding shit sometimes. Sounds like a bitter Steelers fan if I ever heard one. Enjoy another 7-9 or 8-8 season in '13. Half your starting defense is older than fuckin' Dick Lebeau at this point.
a 2nd tier qb being the highest paid ever yes he is now the most overrated
bitter steeler fan haha how funny you people forget who your big brother is, our team still owns your team and you know it
if it wasn't for ben getting hurt your team would've missed the playoffs, they lost to charlie batch and byron leftwich with broken ribs, not to mention injuries to every key player
lets see how valuable ray lewis "leadership" that you always talk about now that you won't have him anymore
our defense finished number 1 in the league, chump
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marino would not trade his spot in the hall for a ring, he's an idiot if he would, i bet you don't even know who mark rypien is, hint he's a qb that was a super bowl mvp 20 years ago
winning the super bowl takes a team effort, flacco did nothing in the 2nd half of the super bowl when 49ers made their comeback, jacoby jones should've been mvp
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who said anything about trading a spot in the hall of fame?
I said his pro bowl apperances, Marino would have still been in the hall without the probowl apperances and with a superbowl win...
If you think marino wouldnt trade his pro bowl apperances for a super bowl win youre a nut.
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who said anything about trading a spot in the hall of fame?
I said his pro bowl apperances, Marino would have still been in the hall without the probowl apperances and with a superbowl win...
If you think marino wouldnt trade his pro bowl apperances for a super bowl win youre a nut.
he got the pro bowl appearances by putting up numbers, which got him into the hall
if flacco retired today you think he's in the hall?
football is a team sport, can we stop pretending that the qb wins the game by themselves?
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He might not be worth it, they may have overpaid a bit, but they were backed into a corner. Plus, next year when Ryan and Rodgers do their thing, they'll make more. And, what has Marty Melt ever done? Flacco is the real deal, I don't think Aikman ever tossed more than 30 tds and look how he turned out. Boldin and Smith equal repeat.
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He might not be worth it, they may have overpaid a bit, but they were backed into a corner. Plus, next year when Ryan and Rodgers do their thing, they'll make more. And, what has Marty Melt ever done? Flacco is the real deal, I don't think Aikman ever tossed more than 30 tds and look how he turned out. Boldin and Smith equal repeat.
is "marty melt" matt ryan? funny how quickly people changed their minds based on 1 game, i don't recall anybody saying flacco was better than him before, i think matt would've looked better against the 49ers if they had the ravens defense, not to mention the o line that gave flacco more protection than he ever had
aikman was on a stacked team, he wasn't any where near as good as marino
repeat? a team that lost 4 out of 5 and backed into the playoffs and without ray's "leadership" and possibly ed reed? ok...
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if it wasn't for ben getting hurt your team would've missed the playoffs, they lost to charlie batch and byron leftwich with broken ribs, not to mention injuries to every key player
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The "IF" arguement. Really? C'mon Earl, you know that's pretty much a worthless arguement.
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LOL rapelisburger is in a bad way right now buddy, I would take flacco over rapesy anyday right now.
Hopefully the Texans will play you again and maybe we can break another eye bone or screw up another ankle ;)
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The "IF" arguement. Really? C'mon Earl, you know that's pretty much a worthless arguement.
you think it's weak because the same thing applies to your giants ;)
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LOL rapelisburger is in a bad way right now buddy, I would take flacco over rapesy anyday right now.
Hopefully the Texans will play you again and maybe we can break another eye bone or screw up another ankle ;)
what does ben or anybody have to do with flacco being seriously over paid based on his last 3 games? you think i believe he's overpaid just because he plays for the ravens?
how is ben in a "bad way"? he just said this is the best he's ever felt this early in the offseason which is saying a lot considering his injuries at the end of the season
hopefully your texans will actually beat a team i hate for once, they failed at that two years in a row, must suck to beat a team by about 4 touchdowns and they win the super bowl instead of your team :)
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what does ben or anybody have to do with flacco being seriously over paid based on his last 3 games? you think i believe he's overpaid just because he plays for the ravens?
how is ben in a "bad way"? he just said this is the best he's ever felt this early in the offseason which is saying a lot considering his injuries at the end of the season
hopefully your texans will actually beat a team i hate for once, they failed at that two years in a row, must suck to beat a team by about 4 touchdowns and they win the super bowl instead of your team :)
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LOL whats he going to say?
I have no faith at all in my line, our running game is shit and the receiving core and myself arent on the same page?
hahaha well you have to know where we are coming from, at least the team that took us out won the entire thing.
how did the team that took you out do?...oh wait
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you think it's weak because the same thing applies to your giants ;)
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It applies to almost any team, since one game/play can make or break a season.
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All I know is that the Ravens got the job done and it was a team effort. Flacco got his money, he'll restructure in 2015, and the Ravens will continue to reload and re-stock every season. In Ozzie we trust. Two superbowls since the start of the 21st century says it all.(which is tied with the Steelers, BTW)
if if if if if if if..........if my aunt had balls...she'd be my uncle. This year was the Ravens year. Done and done.
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All I know is that the Ravens got the job done and it was a team effort. Flacco got his money, he'll restructure in 2015, and the Ravens will continue to reload and re-stock every season. In Ozzie we trust. Two superbowls since the start of the 21st century says it all.(which is tied with the Steelers, BTW)
if if if if if if if..........if my aunt had balls...she'd be my uncle. This year was the Ravens year. Done and done.
Agreed. It's now up to Baltimore/Shittsburgh, and the Giants to tie the Pats.
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LOL whats he going to say?
I have no faith at all in my line, our running game is shit and the receiving core and myself arent on the same page?
hahaha well you have to know where we are coming from, at least the team that took us out won the entire thing.
how did the team that took you out do?...oh wait
why do you have such a problem with me thinking flacco isn't an elite qb?
and how is ben in a "bad way"? sounds like more wishful thinking
uh the patriots took out your team, they didn't win the entire thing
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All I know is that the Ravens got the job done and it was a team effort. Flacco got his money, he'll restructure in 2015, and the Ravens will continue to reload and re-stock every season. In Ozzie we trust. Two superbowls since the start of the 21st century says it all.(which is tied with the Steelers, BTW)
if if if if if if if..........if my aunt had balls...she'd be my uncle. This year was the Ravens year. Done and done.
steelers went to a 3rd, they got the edge plus 3 postseason wins against the ravens since the 21st century began
where do you rank flacco among all quarterbacks? i have him about 10th
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why do you have such a problem with me thinking flacco isn't an elite qb?
and how is ben in a "bad way"? sounds like more wishful thinking
uh the patriots took out your team, they didn't win the entire thing
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LOL you know what I meant you facker!!! :)
The steelers getting set to lose their number 1 receiving talent...whos going to step up emmanuel sanders? lol
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flacco deserves it. he seriously impressed me this year. without his ability to throw the long ball consistantly the ravens would not have been nearly as successful. he is a smart quarterback who rarely makes mistakes and who does a damn fine job of running and offense and putting the ball where his recievers can get it. A+ for Flacco.
but it wasnt always this way
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LOL you know what I meant you facker!!! :)
The steelers getting set to lose their number 1 receiving talent...whos going to step up emmanuel sanders? lol
wallace is lazy and a one trick pony, he cost us many games last year, he isn't worth half of what he wants
flacco was so great last year he got his offensive coordinator fired ::)
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wallace is lazy and a one trick pony, he cost us many games last year, he isn't worth half of what he wants
flacco was so great last year he got his offensive coordinator fired ::)
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I dont completely disagree with your comments on wallace, if he developed into a good route runner he would be a lot better of a receiver. That being said he is one of the better receivers in the league and forces teams to stack a safety on him. The steelers need a receiver as right now you have a handful of undersized receivers.
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steelers went to a 3rd, they got the edge plus 3 postseason wins against the ravens since the 21st century began
where do you rank flacco among all quarterbacks? i have him about 10th
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Those postseason loses, especially the last one hurt bad. That's why finally winning the Lombardi was so great.
I have Flacco right around 7 or 8.
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I really can't believe that the Ravens are going to release Aquan Boldin. His cap number is around 7.25 million for 2013 but so what. He's in the last year of his deal and he played lights out in the postseason. I really hope the Ravens find a way to keep Q. Without him, the Ravens would not have won the title.
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I really can't believe that the Ravens are going to release Aquan Boldin. His cap number is around 7.25 million for 2013 but so what. He's in the last year of his deal and he played lights out in the postseason. I really hope the Ravens find a way to keep Q. Without him, the Ravens would not have won the title.
Absolutely boldin was the best receiver on the squad last season.
Torrey smith is really going to need to step up next season
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Absolutely boldin was the best receiver on the squad last season.
Torrey smith is really going to need to step up next season
I think the Ravens may have burned their bridge by asking Q to take a pay cut in the first place. It's insulting considering how well he played in the playoffs. Let him earn his money and play out the final year. Just boggles my mind. I'm very surprised at this move by the Ravens' front office. And the Ravens have no immediate replacement for his leadership and toughness. Argubly has the strongest hands in the NFL. He's still a beast. He can still get separation from defenders with his strength and when a ball is up for grabs...he usually will come down with it.
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Nevermind...Ravens trade Boldin to the 49ers for........wait for it.......a 6th round draft pick?????!!!!
You have to be fucking kidding me.....
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a brother helping out his brother
the nfl needs to investigate this trade
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damn and harvin to the seahawks...there are going to be some powerhouse teams next season.
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steelers went to a 3rd, they got the edge plus 3 postseason wins against the ravens since the 21st century began
where do you rank flacco among all quarterbacks? i have him about 10th
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I'd rank Flacco 6th best, and his first year without Cam will tell the truth. Also, they didn't back in the playoffs, they had nothing to play for and rested their starters.
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Nevermind...Ravens trade Boldin to the 49ers for........wait for it.......a 6th round draft pick?????!!!!
You have to be fucking kidding me.....
I have all the respect in the world for Q, and am glad he was traded. Not because The Ravens got a pick, but because it means he gets his full salary.
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I'd rank Flacco 6th best, and his first year without Cam will tell the truth. Also, they didn't back in the playoffs, they had nothing to play for and rested their starters.
yeah sure the "6th best" qb in the league has never even been a pro bowl alternate, which is like 6 guys per conference
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I have all the respect in the world for Q, and am glad he was traded. Not because The Ravens got a pick, but because it means he gets his full salary.
I agree. He earned that 2013 salary with his play in the postseason.
There are rumblings that the Ravens might be taking a shot at getting Greg Jennings.
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yeah sure the "6th best" qb in the league has never even been a pro bowl alternate, which is like 6 guys per conference
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Who gives a fuck about the pro bowl dude? He's the NFL ALL-TIME leader in playoff road wins. He just won the Super Bowl and played lights out through the postseason. 11TD's, no picks. I'll take his 9-4 postseason record instead of pro bowls. You can slight Flacco all you want...he still finished the season as a champion and no one can ever take that away from him.
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Who gives a fuck about the pro bowl dude? He's the NFL ALL-TIME leader in playoff road wins. He just won the Super Bowl and played lights out through the postseason. 11TD's, no picks. I'll take his 9-4 postseason record instead of pro bowls. You can slight Flacco all you want...he still finished the season as a champion and no one can ever take that away from him.
Agree. He's the real deal. He earned it.
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Who gives a fuck about the pro bowl dude? He's the NFL ALL-TIME leader in playoff road wins. He just won the Super Bowl and played lights out through the postseason. 11TD's, no picks. I'll take his 9-4 postseason record instead of pro bowls. You can slight Flacco all you want...he still finished the season as a champion and no one can ever take that away from him.
so flacco won the super bowl and not the ravens?
lets see how you feel about his deal when the super bowl high wears off
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so flacco won the super bowl and not the ravens?
lets see how you feel about his deal when the super bowl high wears off
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Bro you're coming across as bitter, flacco played great even if he didn't make the pro bowl.
I don't think he would trade 100 pro bowls for his one Super Bowl win
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so flacco won the super bowl and not the ravens?
lets see how you feel about his deal when the super bowl high wears off
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What about his deal? He gets his 60 million guaranteed. The Ravens front office will restructure his contract after the 2014 season, bet on it. So will Terrell Suggs. Every team has a cap-ologist. The Ravens are very effective at managing their cap but their strength is their scouting department and eye for talent in the later rounds. There's a reason they're the only team in the NFL to make the playoffs the last 5 seasons.
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There's a reason they're the only team in the NFL to make the playoffs the last 5 seasons.
Bc the texans have sucked the better half of that time and you got away with last minute come backs?
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Bc the texans have sucked the better half of that time and you got away with last minute come backs?
Whatever you say, dude. The bottom line(wins) is all that matters....did the Ravens end up with the wins in those last minute games? Yes. Did they earn those wins through sheer determination and team effort? Yes. They didn't 'get away' with anything.
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Bro you're coming across as bitter, flacco played great even if he didn't make the pro bowl.
I don't think he would trade 100 pro bowls for his one Super Bowl win
i guess you missed 4 out of their last 5 games in the regular season
why would i be bitter about flacco getting paid? it clearly hurts the ravens who i don't like so why would i be bitter about him hurting their cap? i don't think he deserves his contract after one good playoff run, winning the super bowl takes a team effort
his one super bowl win isn't getting him into the hall of fame, but 100 pro bowls would
would you rather be jeff hostetler or dan marino? i imagine you are googling jeff hostetler within the next 10 seconds
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What about his deal? He gets his 60 million guaranteed. The Ravens front office will restructure his contract after the 2014 season, bet on it. So will Terrell Suggs. Every team has a cap-ologist. The Ravens are very effective at managing their cap but their strength is their scouting department and eye for talent in the later rounds. There's a reason they're the only team in the NFL to make the playoffs the last 5 seasons.
well his deal cost you 5 players already
i love how flacco said boldin should get paid by the ravens, somebody tell that "genius" he hogged all the money
you don't care now because you are still feeling the super bowl high
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well his deal cost you 5 players already
i love how flacco said boldin should get paid by the ravens, somebody tell that "genius" he hogged all the money
you don't care now because you are still feeling the super bowl high
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I don't agree that his contract has 'cost' us any players. The GM and owner have a vision of how they want to keep the team competitive. The Ravens always build through the draft rather than free agency. They're going younger, plain and simple and thinking of the future.
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I don't agree that his contract has 'cost' us any players. The GM and owner have a vision of how they want to keep the team competitive. The Ravens always build through the draft rather than free agency. They're going younger, plain and simple and thinking of the future.
they just won a super bowl, there is no need to blow up the team
you think they'll be fine after losing ray lewis, ed reed, kruger, ellerbe, pollard, and boldin?
why did boldin only get a 6th round pick and why trade him to a team that could easily prevent your team from winning it again? if boldin was on the 49ers last year the super bowl result could've been different
perhaps it's a brother doing a brother a favor?
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flacco... uh... lol.... nothing else...
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they just won a super bowl, there is no need to blow up the team
you think they'll be fine after losing ray lewis, ed reed, kruger, ellerbe, pollard, and boldin?
why did boldin only get a 6th round pick and why trade him to a team that could easily prevent your team from winning it again? if boldin was on the 49ers last year the super bowl result could've been different
perhaps it's a brother doing a brother a favor?
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Dude...there's such a thing known as the salary cap, right? Every team has to manage it. The Ravens are managing their future. Some players you just can't keep. I'm pissed about losing Ellerbe but did you see how bad he got overpaid?? Same with Kruger....we're talking 70million in just those two players...fucking retarded. Pollard is starting to wear down from his style of play and recent injuries. Next man up for all of those positions. I have faith in my team's front office decsions.
The jury is still out on Ed Reed but he'd have to take less money to stay in Baltimore. Honestly, I'd be shocked if he stayed in Baltimore. He's visiting with the Texans today. 3 teams will throw 30 million over 3 years with 12-15 million guaranteed at him.
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Sounds like the Ravens let these guys walk earl, how does Flaccos deal cause that? Q was traded(bad choice, but they did it classy by trading him to a contender who will pay his full salary) Kruger was a one trick pony who's stats swelled only after the return of Suggs, Ellerbe, while it does sting, was paid a shitload of money and was always in Harbs doghouse because of his attitude, and Pollard was the so called leader of the mutiny back in October. I'm not saying that a bit of rebuilding isn't going on, but to blame it all on Flaccos contract is not true.
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The Ravens paid a heavy price when they tried to keep their 2000 Superbowl team together for another run. They had some roller coaster seasons over the next few years after that. The Ravens are preparing to reload and change the face of the team, simple as that. Even still...I would be shocked if the Ravens played below .500 ball next season. Just too well coached and still a lot of young talent on the roster, not to mention Flacco has something to prove living up to that contract.
And how about James Harrison coming to Baltimore? I would love that. He still has gas in the tank even though past his prime. Baltimore needs linebackers and he'd be a great transitional player for the next 2 seasons or so and a good mentor for the younger players. I've always liked his style of play. He's a badass. And I love the Chris Canty signing.
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Sounds like the Ravens let these guys walk earl, how does Flaccos deal cause that? Q was traded(bad choice, but they did it classy by trading him to a contender who will pay his full salary) Kruger was a one trick pony who's stats swelled only after the return of Suggs, Ellerbe, while it does sting, was paid a shitload of money and was always in Harbs doghouse because of his attitude, and Pollard was the so called leader of the mutiny back in October. I'm not saying that a bit of rebuilding isn't going on, but to blame it all on Flaccos contract is not true.
and what about boldin and ed reed?
no way they win the super bowl without those two
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The Ravens paid a heavy price when they tried to keep their 2000 Superbowl team together for another run. They had some roller coaster seasons over the next few years after that. The Ravens are preparing to reload and change the face of the team, simple as that. Even still...I would be shocked if the Ravens played below .500 ball next season. Just too well coached and still a lot of young talent on the roster, not to mention Flacco has something to prove living up to that contract.
And how about James Harrison coming to Baltimore? I would love that. He still has gas in the tank even though past his prime. Baltimore needs linebackers and he'd be a great transitional player for the next 2 seasons or so and a good mentor for the younger players. I've always liked his style of play. He's a badass. And I love the Chris Canty signing.
the problem was they let trent dilfer go and elvis grbac decided to retire after one season with the ravens, then they drafted kyle boller
harrison has gone soft since all the fines
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Not sure of the exact details yet, but I'm hearing 6 year 120 million. I'm excited, if its cap friendly, upinthemguts, what say you?
that's nice, last time they won they just cut the quarterback ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) i guess they like flacco better than trent dilfer.
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and what about boldin and ed reed?
no way they win the super bowl without those two
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They wouldn't have, but it's not like they thought to keep holding either. They traded him. Reed is yet to be determined.