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mine has been roughly 400 dollars a month wich is way to high but i have an oil furnace an my girl has been turning it up too much so i had to put her in her place but oil is fucking high, ive made some huge changes though but im guesing not much info on super cheap heating sources?
i know a good solar system setup is 30 grand :'(
i dont wanna run a bunch of space heaters and put too much stress on the wiring
i could probably chop up woood i do have a chimney but i dont know anything about a chimney sweep i need to research that i dont wanna have a good ole fire and smoke blowing all in they house
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four hundred dollars, WTF
This is more than my whole winter bill... tell that bitch to switch off the heating and put on some extra clothes ;)
oil is like 4 something a gallon :'(
being a vegetarian i dont hold heat well however when summer hits , its very easy for me to take the heat
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$400 a month, are you serious!?! Damn that's high, mine's around that for 3 months, including electric.
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Tell us more about "her", Johnny.
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$400 a month, are you serious!?! Damn that's high, mine's around that for 3 months, including electric.
i got a big house all brick and half siding probably not much insulation and got alot of windows. yeah thats too much i didnt really realize it because i have a huge oil tank that gets filled up every so often
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i got a big house all brick and half siding probably not much insulation and got alot of windows. yeah thats too much i didnt really realize it because i have a huge oil tank that gets filled up every so often
You need to either shut off most of the rooms if you can and focus on heating one or two rooms only, or get that chimney clean and fire up the wood heater.
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You need to either shut off most of the rooms if you can and focus on heating one or two rooms only, or get that chimney clean and fire up the wood heater.
i hear closing vents is a bad idea because it decreases over all air flow in your system
Raises the static pressure on the air handler
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i hear closing vents is a bad idea because it decreases over all air flow in your system
noow im not sure if that reasoning is right but i have heard its a bad idea from professionals
Do you have an unfinished attic space? Fill that son of a bitch with about 2 feet of blown cellulose insulation.
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Same here... I'll put 500.00 worth of oil in my tank, it will last all winter (3 months) and I live in frigid NH..
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by shutting off vents your unit will actually work harder, your energy bill will increase,
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Do you have an unfinished attic space? Fill that son of a bitch with about 2 feet of blown cellulose insulation.
yeah theres like no insulation up there but i cant crawl around in the attack way to small for a grown man my roof doesnt have a high pitch at all
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a month??
i would say about $6 here in Los Angeles
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I suggest you start insulating asap
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i hear closing vents is a bad idea because it decreases over all air flow in your system
Raises the static pressure on the air handler
Yeah you have to keep the vents open, otherwise tar and soot will build up and increase smoke emission, makes it less efficient too.
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I suggest you start insulating asap
yeah i wish i could but thats impossible to do in my attack the builders were probably just skimmin by i got my house in an auction
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mine has been roughly 400 dollars a month wich is way to high but i have an oil furnace an my girl has been turning it up too much so i had to put her in her place but oil is fucking high, ive made some huge changes though but im guesing not much info on super cheap heating sources?
i know a good solar system setup is 30 grand :'(
i dont wanna run a bunch of space heaters and put too much stress on the wiring
i could probably chop up woood i do have a chimney but i dont know anything about a chimney sweep i need to research that i dont wanna have a good ole fire and smoke blowing all in they house
Johnny I had to report this thread to Ronald because it's not bb related sorry.
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Johnny I had to report this thread to Ronald because it's not bb related sorry.
:'(
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yeah theres like no insulation up there but i cant crawl around in the attack way to small for a grown man my roof doesnt have a high pitch at all
Well, you should see if you can find a way to fill it up. I bet that would be the least expensive improvement. You lose so much heat through the roof.
Even if you just have a small access through your ceiling, set up the blower, stick your head through that hole and blow that shit as far in every direction as you can.
You can get retro foam sprayed into your walls too. That makes a big difference.
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nothing beats electric (pulsed air or convector heater)+ wood stove combo. Adding a modern wood stove to a basic electric installation reduces costs by 50% in winters if all is well managed. Wood costs nothing, especially if you live near forests.
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nothing beats electric (pulsed air or convector heater)+ wood stove combo. Adding a wood stove to a basic electric installation reduces costs by 50% in winters if all is well managed.
Where I live, electric is more expensive (per BTU produced) than natural gas.
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About £80 a month.
If attick space is an issue Have you thought about insulating the celings using 2x2 timber battons screwed to the joists infilled with insulation batts then covered with foil backed plasterboard.
Should make a substantial difference to heat lost.
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Roughly 600$ a year - all for wood.
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i got a big house all brick and half siding probably not much insulation and got alot of windows. yeah thats too much i didnt really realize it because i have a huge oil tank that gets filled up every so often
it is time to replace the oil system by a full electric one + wood stove. There s simply no other way to reduce costs, everyone here in canada does/did it. Oil furnaces are getting rarer and rarer, it just costs too much. Old people selling their houses with oil furnaces are forced to lower the prices considerably or nobody would be interested.
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Do you have an unfinished attic space? Fill that son of a bitch with about 2 feet of blown cellulose insulation.
Yup cellulose is good shit. They can blow it into the outside walls too. They just core small holes here and there and blow it in so there is minimal patching of the sheetrock. If you want to get away from oil Johnay, look into the new condensing gas wall hung heaters. Super efficient, they dont maintain any volume of heated water. Like your oil boiler has maybe 25 gallons of water in it and even if you arent using the heat, the boiler is kicking on to maintain the temp of the water in the boiler. The gas heaters only turn on when you kick on the heat or hot water and it's essentially "instant" hot. There no pilot either like the older gas heaters so no wasted gas there. The system is prob about $4000 for labor and material. The big thing is weather you have natural gas or propane. i am guessing you have propane Falycon, so you would need a gas bottle which hikes up the cost of the system unfortunately. Unless of course you rent the bottle from the gas company but then you are locked in to their pricing
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thanks for all the advices bros im taking notes..
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Yup cellulose is good shit. They can blow it into the outside walls too. They just core small holes here and there and blow it in so there is minimal patching of the sheetrock. If you want to get away from oil Johnay, look into the new condensing gas wall hung heaters. Super efficient, they dont maintain any volume of heated water. Like your oil boiler has maybe 25 gallons of water in it and even if you arent using the heat, the boiler is kicking on to maintain the temp of the water in the boiler. The gas heaters only turn on when you kick on the heat or hot water and it's essentially "instant" hot. There no pilot either like the older gas heaters so no wasted gas there. The system is prob about $4000 for labor and material. The big thing is weather you have natural gas or propane. i am guessing you have propane Falycon, so you would need a gas bottle which hikes up the cost of the system unfortunately. Unless of course you rent the bottle from the gas company but then you are locked in to their pricing
id like to get away from oil but stuck with it i figure obama falcons would bring down the price
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id like to get away from oil but stuck with it i figure obama falcons would bring down the price
You re not stuck with it, simply remove it and install electrical convector heaters linked to your electrical panel under all windows in all rooms. Then install a modern economic wood stove at the junction of living room/dining room/ kitchen. it s like 1000 bucks to buy and install a wood stove and the stuff in the chimney if you do it by yourself, dont know about the cost of removing an oil furnace and paying an electrician to install convecters tho. But all in all it's not the biggest expense. It would have been a better idea to pick a house with correct insulation/heating system from the get go, or at least only with a good heating system, insulation not costing that much or being hard to do yourself...
Do you have a basement?
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id like to get away from oil but stuck with it i figure obama falcons would bring down the price
Feel your pain, I fucking ran out of oil last night! I thought I had at least another couple weeks left and woke up this morning and it was 54 in the house. $3.64 a gallon for dirty ass unrefined homeheating oil. How the fuck is diesel/home heating oil more expensive than gasoline? Been installing a shit ton of these gas heaters at work lately. The gas company's up here are giving rebates if you convert your system.
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$220 a month year round for gas. My house has a heater for the first floor and one for the second floor.
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You re not stuck with it, simply remove it and install convector heaters linked to your electrical panel under all windows in all rooms. Then install a modern economic wood stove at the junction of living room/dining room/ kitchen. it s like 1000 bucks to buy and install a wood stove and the stuff in the chimney if you do it by yourself, dont know about the cost of removing an oil furnace and paying an electrician to install convecters tho. But all in all it's not the biggest expense. It would have been a better idea to pick a house with correct insulation/heating system from the get go... Do you have a basement?
Does this take surface plumbing to achieve, because I have feeling it might and frankly, a home with pipes running through the walls from the stove to the radiators looks ugly as shit
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You re not stuck with it, simply remove it and install convector heaters linked to your electrical panel under all windows in all rooms. Then install a modern economic wood stove at the junction of living room/dining room/ kitchen. it s like 1000 bucks to buy and install a wood stove and the stuff in the chimney if you do it by yourself, dont know about the cost of removing an oil furnace and paying an electrician to install convecters tho. But all in all it's not the biggest expense. It would have been a better idea to pick a house with correct insulation/heating system from the get go, or at least only with a good heating system, insulation not costing that much or being hard to do yourself...
Do you have a basement?
yeah i have a huuuge basement most of my heat is wasted there, the furnace is in the basement, i got a one story house, i got this house cause it has alot of land
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Does this take surface plumbing to achieve, because I have feeling it might and frankly, a home with pipes running through the walls from the stove to the radiators looks ugly as shit
I'm talking about baseboard electrical units, not hot water convectors requiring pipes lol.
Again everyone here replaced all old systems (hot water heated by oil or pulsed air using oil) by electrical ones + one or two wood stoves depending of the number of levels/floors in your house.
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yeah i have a huuuge basement most of my heat is wasted there, the furnace is in the basement, i got a one story house, i got this house cause it has alot of land
pretty basic old installation there with basic old problems of such installations, basement always being too cold in winters, nice in summer tho. Are basement and first floor separated by a door or do they communicate freely? Some people manage to simply heat the first floor where they live most of the time and forget about heating the basement, but it can create major humidity /quality of air troubles.
Again for all the kinds of bungalow types houses built in the 60s, there s no better way than replacing old insulation panels by new ones, replacing old wooden windows in basement by pvc ones, replacing oil systems by electrical ones, and adding one or two wooden stoves in basement and first floor.
Wood stove has to be very carefully placed, preferably in the center of the house to heat the rooms where most of the family will spend most of the time off course. Hot air traveling along top of walls ceiling you have to have no obstacles between rooms, and if you leave doors or sleeping rooms open at night it can also heat them. You can place a second wooden stove in the basement to heat it the same way, depends oof how many rooms you have/want to build there. You have to keep basement dry to prevent humidity so it has to be heated tho. Your main heating system is suposed to heat both first floor and basement with balance, the problem is that wether they re electrical or oil based, they cost a lot especially in cold countries, still electrical beats oil. You cant put two wood stoves on one chimney you have to have a separate chimney for each one. Also there s a danger to having a wooden stove in the basement; most of the time people cant see if something goes wrong / a fire starts when it s down there, living most of the time on the first floor. It's less safe.
The contractor who inspected our house before we decided to buy it told us the best installation is a wooden stove linked to an old chimney, placed in the center of the house, with as few walls as possible, and to have electrical baseboads heaters in all rooms both on first floor and basement under the windows. Thermostat controlling main electrical heating system has to be carefuly placed too. The point of the whole thing is to have the wood stove heating the first floor all winter long for cheap, and main electrical heating system replacing it when you dont put wood in it. The difficulty is to heat the basement correctly, with independant electrical baseboard heaters that are not linked to the thermostat and that you will turn on/off only when you re in the room. Basically it's about keeping the whole first floor warm all winter long, and the rooms you stay in the basement warm using electrical baseboard units, while NOT heating the rooms where you dont spend much time. Still, you have to keep the whole basement warm enough even if colder than first floor and heated rooms so humidity doenst start to create troubles. A wood stove placed on a floor (first floor or basement) where there are many walls / rooms is pointless, it will only overheat the room it's in.
there are many pdf on the internet about all of this. A house needs a good hat , a good vest and a good pair of boots against weather.
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i hear closing vents is a bad idea because it decreases over all air flow in your system
Raises the static pressure on the air handler
Thats right ..but damn 400 is alot most I pay around 200 winter months...maybe some more insulation is in order.
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Thats right ..but damn 400 is alot most I pay around 200 winter months...maybe some more insulation is in order.
my mom and day pay a lil above 200 on propane heat
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North of Boston
10 rooms,5 zones,natural gas,forced hot water,baseboard radiators
1500 /yr.
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my mom and day pay a lil above 200 on propane heat
Thats what I got propane, see the price has dropped a bit on that lately. Insulation is key.
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yeah i have a huuuge basement most of my heat is wasted there, the furnace is in the basement, i got a one story house, i got this house cause it has alot of land
I pay about $30 a month, primary heat is a quality woodstove with a couple of those electric oil filled radiators in cool spots. I don`t have a furnace but designed my central air system with a return over the woodstove. I can run my A/C fan and move warm air throughout the house.
Woodstove in your basement would be the way to go, nothing like warm floors.
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Heating? Maybe 3 bucks a year. ;D it's 63 degrees right now. 8)
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I live in NH and I have a pretty big house to heat. I use pellet stoves to heat the house in the winter. I go through about 4 tons each winter, with the cost about $250/ton delivered. That gets me through about 6 months of needing heat. I do have central heat (propane), but I try not to use that unless I have to.
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600/mth Nov-Mar. Not much after that. Considering geothermal, or possibly a pellet stove.
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400 a month at the moment for me as well. keep the heat at 65 pretty much all the time... fucking oil is $4 a gallon... think I will be bouncing up out of here soon, don't need this much space anyways and costs a lot to maintain
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600/mth Nov-Mar. Not much after that. Considering geothermal, or possibly a pellet stove.
Damn that's high maybe a wood stove is in order.
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Around $180 in the winter (north Florida, 1950 sq ft heated). I don't even use my centralized wood burning stove because the house is so efficient already. That and rattlesnakes seem to love staying around the woodpile.
Johnny you might think about closing off the basement and/or its fairly easy ( but itchy) to insulate your roof with the strips of insulation yourself. Blown insulation is the best (and less invasive) for the walls as already suggested.
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mine has been roughly 400 dollars a month wich is way to high but i have an oil furnace an my girl has been turning it up too much so i had to put her in her place but oil is fucking high, ive made some huge changes though but im guesing not much info on super cheap heating sources?
i know a good solar system setup is 30 grand :'(
i dont wanna run a bunch of space heaters and put too much stress on the wiring
i could probably chop up woood i do have a chimney but i dont know anything about a chimney sweep i need to research that i dont wanna have a good ole fire and smoke blowing all in they house
Aren't heat pumps common in your area?
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Around $180 in the winter (north Florida, 1950 sq ft heated). I don't even use my centralized wood burning stove because the house is so efficient already. That and rattlesnakes seem to love staying around the woodpile.
Johnny you might think about closing off the basement and/or its fairly easy ( but itchy) to insulate your roof with the strips of insulation yourself. Blown insulation is the best (and less invasive) for the walls as already suggested.
Excellent other than rattlesnakes I keep my shotgun by side.