Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Skip8282 on March 11, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
-
Judge Blocks New York City’s Limits on Big Sugary Drinks
A judge struck down New York’s limits on large sugary drinks on Monday, one day before they were to take effect, in a significant blow to one of the most ambitious and divisive initiatives of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s tenure.
"Obesity is bad, but arbitrary 'nanny state' intrusiveness and enforcement would be far worse, and would set a dangerous precedent for administrative abuses of power to achieve goals based on personal beliefs."
In an unusually critical opinion, Justice Milton A. Tingling Jr. of State Supreme Court in Manhattan called the limits “arbitrary and capricious,” echoing the complaints of city business owners and consumers who had deemed the rules unworkable and unenforceable, with confusing loopholes and voluminous exemptions.
The decision comes at a sensitive time for Mr. Bloomberg, who is determined to burnish his legacy as he enters the final months of his career in City Hall, and his administration seemed caught off guard by the decision. Before the judge ruled, the mayor had called for the soda limits to be adopted by cities around the globe; he now faces the possibility that one of his most cherished endeavors will not come to fruition before he leaves office, if ever.
The mayor’s plan, which he pitched as a novel effort to combat obesity, aroused worldwide curiosity and debate — and the ire of the American soft-drink industry, which undertook a multimillion-dollar campaign to block it, flying banners from airplanes over Coney Island, plastering subway stations with advertisements and filing the lawsuit that led to the ruling.
Mr. Bloomberg said he would immediately appeal, and at a quickly arranged news conference, he fiercely defended the rationale for the rules, which would have limited the size of sugary drinks to 16 ounces at restaurants, theaters and food carts.
“I’ve got to defend my children, and yours, and do what’s right to save lives,” the mayor said. “Obesity kills. There’s no question it kills.”
He added, “We believe that the judge’s decision was clearly in error, and we believe we will win on appeal.”
The plan, unveiled last May, was hailed by many public health officials as a breakthrough in the effort to combat the effects of high-calorie, sugary drinks on the public’s health. Similar proposals have been put forward in Los Angeles and Cambridge, Mass., even as the idea of a “war on soda” has become regular fare for late-night comedians.
Coffee shops and restaurants around the city had already begun editing menus, retraining employees and warning customers of the coming changes in the sorts of drinks they could and could not buy. Dunkin’ Donuts, for instance, told its employees they could no longer add sugar to large coffees.
The measure was already broadly unpopular: In a New York Times poll conducted last August, 60 percent of city residents said it was a bad idea for the Bloomberg administration to pass the limits, although Bronx and Queens residents were more likely than Manhattan residents to oppose it.
In his ruling, Justice Tingling concurred with much of the beverage industry’s legal arguments. He said the Board of Health, which is appointed by the mayor, had overreached in approving the plan, and wrote that the City Council was the only legislative body with the power to approve such a far-reaching initiative.
The administration, Justice Tingling wrote, had interpreted the board’s powers broadly enough to “create an administrative Leviathan,” capable of enacting any rules and “limited only by its own imagination.”
The judge also criticized the rules themselves, noting they would apply only to certain sugared drinks — dairy-based beverages like milkshakes, for instance, would be exempt — and be enforced only in certain establishments, like restaurants and delis, but not others, like convenience stores and bodegas. The rules, the judge wrote, would create “uneven enforcement, even within a particular city block, much less the city as a whole.”
Lawyers for the Bloomberg administration said on Monday that it remained confident the Board of Health — which has been the conduit through which the mayor has pushed through his boldest public health initiatives, including limits on trans fats in restaurants — had “the legal authority and responsibility” to address obesity in the city.
Mr. Bloomberg has some experience in prevailing over legal challenges to his public health initiatives, including his requirement that fast food menus include calorie counts.
But there was no immediate consensus on Monday on the likelihood of a reversal of Justice Tingling’s ruling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/12/nyregion/judge-invalidates-bloombergs-soda-ban.html?_r=0
-
Bout fucking time.
-
Next up - "SAFE Act"
-
How did this guy get elected? Do liberals want government in every aspect of their lives?
-
Poor 33386, ...got himself all worked up for nothing. :-\
333, Now that it's been struck down... was all that emotional energy you expended worth it?
-
Poor 33386, ...got himself all worked up for nothing. :-\
333, Now that it's been struck down... was all that emotional energy you expended worth it?
If people did ot fight this tyranny it would just continue
-
Poor 33386, ...got himself all worked up for nothing. :-\
333, Now that it's been struck down... was all that emotional energy you expended worth it?
Thanks for confiring you're freaking retarded.
Several people here have bitched about this and other shit Bloomberg has pushed for. And hell yea it's worth it... you don't wait for it to be "struck down" by a judge before you oppose it. ::) WTF are you thinking?
fucking Canadians... Go join up on a Candian board and do what ever you do but stop showing up on American boards with your useless retarded political opinions.
-
How did this guy get elected? Do liberals want government in every aspect of their lives?
Yes - cradle to abortionists table to the gay wedding chaple to the grave
-
Yes - cradle to abortionists table to the gay wedding chaple to the grave
Those two things should be always remain legal as well.
-
Those two things should be always remain legal as well.
I dont have a probem w that - but those are the only two things most liberals today ever care about freedom wise
-
I dont have a probem w that - but those are the only two things most liberals today ever care about freedom wise
Liberals today are looking more like yesterday and todays Republicans who want to stifle individual liberty and personal freedom.
As Gore Vidal said- “There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat.”
-
Thanks for confiring you're freaking retarded.
Several people here have bitched about this and other shit Bloomberg has pushed for. And hell yea it's worth it... you don't wait for it to be "struck down" by a judge before you oppose it. ::) WTF are you thinking?
Yes, several people have bitched about it, ...but was my question directed towards them?
No, it was directed towards 33386. I completely agree it was a butt stupid piece of legislation. What I question is his working himself up into such a lather frothing at the mouth akin to a rabid dog as he so frequently does. There are ways to get things done without foaming at the mouth. If he single handedly got the law struck down, then I will apologize to him, but i believe it was accomplished by those more level headed and stable. I can understand if the concepts of level headedness and stability are foreign concepts to you.
fucking Canadians... Go join up on a Candian board and do what ever you do but stop showing up on American boards with your useless retarded political opinions.
If we Canadians have useless retarded political opinions, why is our society working so well? Why are our citizens living such relatively peaceful lives (most of us don't even need to lock our doors) Why is our country prosperous if our opinions are so useless & retarded?
-
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/appeals-court-strikes-down-nycs-155155388.html
booooommmm
-
Other than the gun crap, I like bloomberg.
Overall Bloomberg has been one of the best Mayors ever in this city.
I miss our Bloomberg debates, 333386. I used to shit all over this guy and you liked him.
-
I miss our Bloomberg debates, 333386. I used to shit all over this guy and you liked him.
He is better than wiener or Quinn
-
He is better than wiener or Quinn
true, but cat shit is better than dog/horse shit too.
-
true, but cat shit is better than dog/horse shit too.
Wiener and Quinn are far left radicals
-
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=462879.0;attach=509248;image)
::)
Canada, USA's retarded little brother since 1867.
-
Wiener and Quinn are far left radicals
bloomberg too
-
bloomberg too
Yes - but fiscally and police wise the city has been pretty safe.
Wiener and Quinn are promising a return to th Dinkins days
-
I was hoping someone literally slapped him down... :(
-
He is better than wiener or Quinn
No way. Weiner was one of the very best members in congress and he would be a remarkable mayor. He actually gives a fuck and gets things done.
-
No way. Weiner was one of the very best members in congress and he would be a remarkable mayor. He actually gives a fuck and gets things done.
He is stained w scandal and wont recover
-
He is stained w scandal and wont recover
He would still make a great mayor though.
-
He would still make a great mayor though.
Better than Quinn - she is a freak show
-
"Obesity is bad, but arbitrary 'nanny state' intrusiveness and enforcement would be far worse, and would set a dangerous precedent for administrative abuses of power to achieve goals based on personal beliefs."
Amen to that.
-
Yes, several people have bitched about it, ...but was my question directed towards them?
No, it was directed towards 33386. I completely agree it was a butt stupid piece of legislation. What I question is his working himself up into such a lather frothing at the mouth akin to a rabid dog as he so frequently does. There are ways to get things done without foaming at the mouth. If he single handedly got the law struck down, then I will apologize to him, but i believe it was accomplished by those more level headed and stable. I can understand if the concepts of level headedness and stability are foreign concepts to you.
If we Canadians have useless retarded political opinions, why is our society working so well? Why are our citizens living such relatively peaceful lives (most of us don't even need to lock our doors) Why is our country prosperous if our opinions are so useless & retarded?
Updated: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:28:07 GMT | By CBC News, cbc.ca
Toronto police chief promises answers after streetcar killing
Toronto police Chief Bill Blair says people "have every right to be concerned" after an 18-year-old man armed with a knife on a downtown streetcar was shot repeatedly and killed by police this weekend — an incident captured by amateur video.
http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/toronto-police-chief-promises-answers-after-streetcar-killing
I'm pretty sure you guys were right there with us in Iraq and the War on Terror? :-\
-
He is stained w scandal and wont recover
33,
Would you even care if a mayor was a d-bag cheater, etc.... IF he was highly effective as mayor and fixed everything wrong with NYC?
-
33,
Would you even care if a mayor was a d-bag cheater, etc.... IF he was highly effective as mayor and fixed everything wrong with NYC?
The only won I like is the black dude Thompson
-
The only won I like is the black dude Thompson
you didn't answer the Q. If mayoral candidate John Q. Smith would fix a lot of problems - but had a history of drug use or cheating - would you care?
-
you didn't answer the Q. If mayoral candidate John Q. Smith would fix a lot of problems - but had a history of drug use or cheating - would you care?
When someone is such a parody as it wiener at this point - nothing will get done