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Title: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Marty Champions on March 14, 2013, 06:20:49 AM


theres another vid of another olympic guy doing the same thing with back straight
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: anabolichalo on March 14, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
his shins hardly angle forward as well

how is this possible


maybe he bends his lower back to make this possible
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 14, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
his shins hardly angle forward as well

how is this possible


maybe he bends his lower back to make this possible

He does. This is a weightlifter, not a powerlifter. There's no point of doing a half squat/half good-morning form as he keeps his form as close as possible to a front squat. He was a beast, just fucked up beautifully at the Olympics. Here's a front squat by a weightlifter:

Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Nomad on March 14, 2013, 08:06:06 AM


theres another vid of another olympic guy doing the same thing with back straight

slav build genetics. Look at how long his legs are compared to the rest of his body. Long legs + short core = easier to stabilize when squatting deep and heavy.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Stark on March 14, 2013, 08:08:57 AM
eh?

that's the same way I squat as well, not with that weight of course, but can't you guys see that he goes down verticaly but puts his ass out at the end? Thats the right way to powersquat, you don't "lean" forward.

I have a feeling the majority of you have to learn top use less weight and better form
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Rami on March 14, 2013, 08:17:24 AM
slav build genetics. Look at how long his legs are compared to the rest of his body. Long legs + short core = easier to stabilize when squatting deep and heavy.

true, his upper body doesn't even exist hardly
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 14, 2013, 09:21:02 AM


theres another vid of another olympic guy doing the same thing with back straight
Depends on flexibility if a person isn't too flexible a board or maybe 10 pound plates under the heels about 1 inch or so helps with keeping the back straight. Some people I train are fine without anything on squats some have to have the heels raised a bit.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 14, 2013, 10:20:17 AM
eh?

that's the same way I squat as well, not with that weight of course, but can't you guys see that he goes down verticaly but puts his ass out at the end? Thats the right way to powersquat, you don't "lean" forward.

I have a feeling the majority of you have to learn top use less weight and better form

I won't argue about the fact that it's the right way to squat but it's definitely not the way powerlifters squat.

Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Abacab on March 14, 2013, 10:53:46 AM


His knees buckle inwards quite a few inches coming out of the hole. He can move some weight but I can't see how his knees can survive that much stress for long.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Stark on March 14, 2013, 10:56:42 AM
I won't argue about the fact that it's the right way to squat but it's definitely not the way powerlifters squat.



I believe I have seen a lot of similar squats by powerlifters, maybe not as extreme straight, but pretty much, i think Wendler had a good how to squat properly video, I try to find it.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 14, 2013, 11:02:41 AM
I believe I have seen a lot of similar squats by powerlifters, maybe not as extreme straight, but pretty much, i think Wendler had a good how to squat properly video, I try to find it.

Well, most guys I've seen this last ten years, Bolton, Donnie Thompson, Rantanen, all of them use a large grip, feet wide apart (almost a sumo squat position) and are doing something closer to a good morning than a proper squat to me.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MikMaq on March 14, 2013, 11:04:41 AM
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theres another vid of another olympic guy doing the same thing with back straight
A better question is how do the big falcon keep his back straight.

You got any advice for the tall folk trying to keep good posture?
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: anabolichalo on March 14, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
you know what is odd

normally in squatting in general (no weight / overhead / front / back...)

you can either

have the hips reall low and the back really straight

or

have the torso really forward and the hips higher


but what about shins moving forward


how is it all related


the grand mysteries of squatting
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Mawse on March 14, 2013, 11:08:52 AM
hes a world class olympic lifter, which means he has to have perfect proportions to be able to squat like that. To put it in perspective the chinese olympic team measure every lifters limb length to a matter of millimeters and send home the ones who don't have ideal leverage.. its not a realistic model for regular people squatting

look at how he bounces out of the bottom then his knees move in and out, that's how he maintains back angle through the hardest part of the lift - that would fuck up your hips and knees if you did it on a regular basis even worse than Layne Norton style backlifting
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: Stark on March 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Well, most guys I've seen this last ten years, Bolton, Donnie Thompson, Rantanen, all of them use a large grip, feet wide apart (almost a sumo squat position) and are doing something closer to a good morning than a proper squat to me.

That has to be real fucking bad for the back, no?
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 14, 2013, 11:15:23 AM
you know what is odd

normally in squatting in general (no weight / overhead / front / back...)

you can either

have the hips reall low and the back really straight

or

have the torso really forward and the hips higher


but what about shins moving forward


how is it all related


the grand mysteries of squatting

Same mystery as why every single body is unique. Compound movements will stress bio-mechanical differences if you see say, ten different people doing the same exercise "correctly". That's why very few people for example can perform a full ROM squatting on a smith machine (which I don't recommend- I'm talking about a classic squat performed on a smith and not a hack squat most perform on a smith).
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 14, 2013, 11:17:43 AM
That has to be real fucking bad for the back, no?

I think so but between the amount of juice these guys are on, probably the painkillers, etc....I guess I'd feel my lower back snap in a second but hey, to each his own. I doubt that such a way of squatting is meant to produce an "improvement" for your body.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 14, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
Weightlifters can do anything.
Title: Re: how does this little falcon keep his back straight
Post by: anabolichalo on March 14, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
remember that weightlifting is a sport for young people

that's why they still have a lot of resilience in their bodies and can get away with all the balistic shit they do with 200-300 kilos every single day

also a lot of juice, massage, enough rest etc and of course GENETICS