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If New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg gets his way, stores won't be able to publicly display tobacco products and will have to keep cigarettes under the counter or behind curtains.
The legislation announced Monday is the latest public-health crackdown by the mayor, whose ban on super-sized sugary soft drinks was shot down by a judge last week.
The proposed law would "prohibit display of tobacco products" in most retail shops, Bloomberg said. "Such displays suggest smoking is a normal activity and invite young people to experiment with tobacco."
He said it would be the first of its kind in the nation.
A second law would impose new rules to make it harder to sell smuggled cigarettes.
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"These laws would protect New Yorkers, especially young and impressionable New Yorkers," Bloomberg said at a Queens hospital, adding that a decline in youth smoking has stalled out with about 8 percent of young people lighting up.
Bloomberg has also crusaded against salt in restaurant foods and junk food in vending machines.
The National Association of Tobacco Outlets, a trade group that represents 27,000 stores nationwide that sell cigarettes and cigars, predicted the law, if passed, would be overturned by the courts.
“Retailers are responsible business people that go to great lengths to prevent sales to minors, and there are First Amendment protections that extend to advertising,” said Tom Briant, executive director of the group.
“You’re talking about a basic right under the Constitution. If you do this with cigarettes and tobacco products, what else is going to have to be out of view? Wine and spirits? It’s a very slippery slope.”
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Meanwhile - there are homeless and thugs all over the subways now
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Meanwhile - there are homeless and thugs all over the subways now
Lately, every time I've been on the subway there's some homeless vagrant begging for a handout. Definitely seen an uptick as of late. Happens every time I'm on the 4.
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Lately, every time I've been on the subway there's some homeless vagrant begging for a handout. Definitely seen an uptick as of late. Happens every time I'm on the 4.
I'm on the 4 all the time. Get on at GCS to go to court or brooklyn and soon as those doors open - ohhh bboooyyy.
I saw this stupid chinese guy pick a fight w this huge black homeless bum who looked like Kimbo Slice who was taking up two seats. It was crowded and the chinese guy asked the bum to move over.
Bum to Chinese guy : "guy - dont you watch the news - you want to be the next one run over by the train?"
Chine guy was still complaining and i thought it was on. I told him to move on or he was going to be killed. Stupid stupid stupid some people.
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caption aside, it's pretty funny that palin attacked bloomy like this.
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hide 'em....good.
at least they are not being banned.
you want a 64 oz barrel of a drink? fine; buy several 16 oz . and get your refills.
salt? fine; bring your own when you eat out. or ask for it.
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hide 'em....good.
at least they are not being banned.
you want a 64 oz barrel of a drink? fine; buy several 16 oz . and get your refills.
salt? fine; bring your own when you eat out. or ask for it.
I hope you're kidding.
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That one might actually go through.
They did the same thing up here in Ontario. All cigarettes are behind plain cabinets and hidden from view.
The cigarette manufacturers then turned to supplying retailers with books of matches with their cigarette logos all over them.
The only ones that had any issue with this was the cigarette manufacturers who could no longer display their product out in the open, ...and of course the retailers who had to purchase new special cabinets to house them.
I think non smokers didn't give a poop about whether they were covered up or not, and smokers didn't give a poop either, as long as they could still get them.
Of course, no one is talking about banning the sale of cigarettes period. Big Tobacco would have a fit, and the govs collect too much in taxes to ever shut that spigot completely off.
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hiding cigarettes is the law in canada... total horseshit if you ask me... but smoking tobacco is retarded anyway... i say tax it 5000% and make the penalty for illegal tobacco total forfeiture of all assets and death by hanging...
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hiding cigarettes is the law in canada... total horseshit if you ask me... but smoking tobacco is retarded anyway... i say tax it 5000% and make the penalty for illegal tobacco total forfeiture of all assets and death by hanging...
What's "illegal tobacco"? Tobacco is not against the law. And why would you have the state hang smokers?
You know the gov't would never do that... and lose all that tax revenue. They'd rather get all the money and let smokers die on their own.
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What's "illegal tobacco"? Tobacco is not against the law. And why would you have the state hang smokers?
You know the gov't would never do that... and lose all that tax revenue. They'd rather get all the money and let smokers die on their own.
illegal tobacco is a big issue in canada... mostly run through native band lands that straddle our borders... smugglers bring tons of cheaper us smokes (lower tax rates) into canada to seel on the downlow
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illegal tobacco is a big issue in canada... mostly run through native band lands that straddle our borders... smugglers bring tons of cheaper us smokes (lower tax rates) into canada to seel on the downlow
Didn't they resolve that years ago by dramatically dropping the taxes, knocking cigarette prices down to $3 /pack, wiping out the profit margins for the smugglers, and prosecuting the tobacco execs in the USA who facilitated this? ...and then slap the taxes back on after wiping out the competition?
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Didn't they resolve that years ago by dramatically dropping the taxes, knocking cigarette prices down to $3 /pack, wiping out the profit margins for the smugglers, and prosecuting the tobacco execs in the USA who facilitated this? ...and then slap the taxes back on after wiping out the competition?
No
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Bloomberg: “I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom”
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When visiting New York City, check your personal freedoms at the door — at least as long as Mayor Michael Bloomberg is in charge.
“I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom,” he said on Sunday morning.
Bloomberg appeared on NBC‘s ‘Meet the Press,’ where host David Gregory grilled the Mayor about his failed soda ban, something Bloomberg said he would appeal.
“We think the judge was just clearly wrong on this,” the Mayor said. ”Our Department of Health has the legal ability to do this.”
He added that they’re “not banning anything,” doubling down on his comments from earlier this month.
Gregory said Bloomberg’s soda ban was really just a “public awareness” campaign and suggested there was a better way to achieve the end results of better health and lower obesity rates.
“You could do ads for education,” the host said. “As the executive of New York City, you are telling people what they can and cannot do. Why is that government’s job to do that?”
Bloomberg countered that they weren’t telling anyone what they can or cannot do with the soda ban. He said there are certain instances where things should be banned or freedoms should be infringed upon — such as drunk driving or taking a gun onto an airplane. But seemingly contradicting his own attempted soda ban, he added that he believes people should have the right to smoke, own a firearm or make their own weight decisions.
“If you want to eat a lot and get fat, you have a right to do it,” he said. “But our job of government is to inform the public.”
Guess the right to “get fat” doesn’t include sodas larger than 16 ounces.
By Kelsey Osterman /// March 24, 2013
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yes... i agree
stop lights infringe on freedom
so do designated parking areas
so do lots of things
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yes... i agree
stop lights infringe on freedom
Apples and oranges my friend.
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Apples and oranges my friend.
correct, sir.
apples and oranges infringe on freedom.
but give me a long hard cucumber......