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Obama Just Finished His Speech In Israel, And People Are Already Saying He Made History
Grace Wyler Mar. 21, 2013
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President Barack Obama delivered a bold message to young Israelis in Jerusalem Thursday, asking them to see the world through the eyes of their adversaries in the Middle East.
Addressing students at the Jerusalem Cultural Center, Obama called on a new generation of Israelis to take up the peace process — including halting settlement construction — and work harder toward achieving an independent Palestine.
Here is the key paragraph from his speech:
But the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and justice must also be recognized. Put yourself in their shoes – look at the world through their eyes. It is not fair that a Palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of her own, and lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements of her parents every single day. It is not just when settler violence against Palestinians goes unpunished. It is not right to prevent Palestinians from farming their lands; to restrict a student’s ability to move around the West Bank; or to displace Palestinian families from their home. Neither occupation nor expulsion is the answer. Just as Israelis built a state in their homeland, Palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land.
The speech was remarkably blunt, particularly considering Obama's fraught relationship with Israelis and their prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. At times, Obama even appeared to be trying to circumvent his Israeli counterpart, calling on his young audience to challenge political leaders on the peace issue.
" I can promise you this, political leaders will never take risks if the people do not push them to take some risks," he said. "You must create the change that you want to see. Ordinary people can accomplish extraordinary things."
The message was extraordinarily well-received, both by the audience and veteran Israel correspondents, many of whom are calling Obama's speech "historic."
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Eat this sympathizer...
Obama is no better and should be treated as such...
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Should have been done years ago. Not gonna happen with Bibi in charge. Sometimes, we're our own worst enemy.
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I have great sympathy for the downtrodden from history's slaughter-bench, but this is nothing more than naïve and wishful window-dressing for the world stage. What's with all of this "rights" talk? I don't believe there is some kind of metaphysical right to existence and self-determination that obligates human political behavior. Any sophisticated observer of geopolitics immediately recognizes that political action, as it actually occurs, is often, perhaps even usually, a morally questionable business wherein self-interest, deception, cruelty, and lying are par for the course. If Israel's stance toward Palestinians changes, it won't be because of an appeal to morality; rather, it will be because of a change in the dynamics of power. Don't underestimate how much Realpolitik operates in the warm and fuzzy language of Idealism (above and below the threshold of consciousness).
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Obama is just saying what many of us have been saying for over a year now. Many have criticized Israel for its double standards.
I have posted this image many times before that captures this double standard perfectly.
Too bad no white whore politician in the West has the guts to call them out. Bunch of weak pussies - including Arnold.
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What sort of state can you build out of this?
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president seems like an easy job for any actor
just read some speeches, smile and shake hands
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Obama is just saying what many of us have been saying for over a year now. Many have criticized Israel for its double standards.
I have posted this image many times before that captures this double standard perfectly.
Too bad no white whore politician in the West has the guts to call them out. Bunch of weak pussies - including Arnold.
(http://www.theneworder.org/media/58265/jews-settlers_attack_woman.jpg)
Agree. Israeli lobby(AIPAC)/ American Jewish voter voice is too significant to ignore, tho. :-\
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What sort of state can you build out of this?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9Y61aYghySw/Tv61KxWjPWI/AAAAAAAACWk/N_hmT00uJ3M/s400/Palestine_2.jpg)
Talk about Palestine being WHIPPED :D
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Yup.
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An example of how the captives become captors, and the oppressed become oppressors. Power operates in circular waves.
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An example of how the captives become captors, and the oppressed become oppressors. Power operates in circular waves corrupts.
Hi Sev! ;D
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Hi Sev! ;D
Nothing against Sev, but COME ON!!??
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I was going to type something, but, eh...
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Yup.
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An example of how the captives become captors, and the oppressed become oppressors. Power operates in circular waves.
Time for a new cycle, a different one---where a true "counsel" maintains balance, stopping this cycle and creating a new one where this oppressed/oppressor ebb and flow doesn't destabilize governments and nations and draws others into international conflict.
***Freaking League of Nations, same as the UN, same thing, different name.
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What sort of state can you build out of this?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9Y61aYghySw/Tv61KxWjPWI/AAAAAAAACWk/N_hmT00uJ3M/s400/Palestine_2.jpg)
You do know that the Palenstines stole the land that they once had in 1946? People have been fighting over that land for centuries.
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the palestinians got paid for the land back then,so wheres the problem
if for the muzzies palestina would be so importnat, why arent the mslim neighbor nations helping them out?
and for those who feel its unfair, haha, careful what you asking for, do yall would wanna live under hamas rule? ;D
you know what hamas does to you incase you dance on the street to music?do you know what?
lets not pretend the palestinians are saints.
Those rich Muslim nations don't like the Palestinians either---it's funny how they use them as a ralleying cry (and so do the extremists). But, nobody has really called out these OIL rich countries on why they cannot buy or donate land of their own, creating a Palestinian Homeland (yes, we know where they rather have it, as they have been there yrs).
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president seems like an easy job for any actor
just read some speeches, smile and shake hands
It's an easy job for Obama because he only works 4 hrs day. Not exaggerating
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Why does Coach hate Obama?
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It's an easy job for Obama because he only works 4 hrs day. Not exaggerating
Middle-East is Smart/Stupid/Smart. Coach? :-\
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Why does Coach hate Obama?
Because he ruins everything he touches and we knew it before he was elected, the left was and still is too damn dumb to accept it or figure it out. People do not want 95% of the shit he puts forth yet he shoves through illegally and against the peoples wishes. He thinks he knows better, his history past and present has been proven wrong over and over again. He's a terrorist sympathizer, he's proved that.
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Because he ruins everything he touches and we knew it before he was elected, the left was and still is too damn dumb to accept it or figure it out. People do not want 95% of the shit he puts forth yet he shoves through illegally and against the peoples wishes. He thinks he knows better, his history past and present has been proven wrong over and over again. He's a terrorist sympathizer, he's proved that.
Puleeeeeezzzze>.
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Because he ruins everything he touches and we knew it before he was elected, the left and the right were, and still are too damn dumb to accept it or figure it out. People do not want 95% of the shit he puts forth yet he shoves through illegally and against the peoples wishes. He thinks he knows better, his history past and present has been proven wrong over and over again. He's a terrorist sympathizer, he's proved that.
fixed
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Another Benny gimmick.
Obama Just Finished His Speech In Israel, And People Are Already Saying He Made History
Grace Wyler Mar. 21, 2013
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President Barack Obama delivered a bold message to young Israelis in Jerusalem Thursday, asking them to see the world through the eyes of their adversaries in the Middle East.
Addressing students at the Jerusalem Cultural Center, Obama called on a new generation of Israelis to take up the peace process — including halting settlement construction — and work harder toward achieving an independent Palestine.
Here is the key paragraph from his speech:
But the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and justice must also be recognized. Put yourself in their shoes – look at the world through their eyes. It is not fair that a Palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of her own, and lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements of her parents every single day. It is not just when settler violence against Palestinians goes unpunished. It is not right to prevent Palestinians from farming their lands; to restrict a student’s ability to move around the West Bank; or to displace Palestinian families from their home. Neither occupation nor expulsion is the answer. Just as Israelis built a state in their homeland, Palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land.
The speech was remarkably blunt, particularly considering Obama's fraught relationship with Israelis and their prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. At times, Obama even appeared to be trying to circumvent his Israeli counterpart, calling on his young audience to challenge political leaders on the peace issue.
" I can promise you this, political leaders will never take risks if the people do not push them to take some risks," he said. "You must create the change that you want to see. Ordinary people can accomplish extraordinary things."
The message was extraordinarily well-received, both by the audience and veteran Israel correspondents, many of whom are calling Obama's speech "historic."
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