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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Darren Avey on March 29, 2013, 05:35:32 AM
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
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Please explain why you think he is ruining his knees. In my opinion his squat is fine.
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lots of schmoes recording the action
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Please explain why you think he is ruining his knees. In my opinion his squat is fine.
lmao
;D
you cant possibly mean this bro
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Please explain why you think he is ruining his knees. In my opinion his squat is fine.
Because he hasn't a fucking clue who to heavy lift ::) like most of the BB monkeys
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Because he hasn't a fucking clue who to heavy lift ::) like most of the BB monkeys
he's a weightlifter tho not a bber
not uncommon for weightlifters to lift balistically
but this guy is taking it to a new level
anyway, no matter how you do it, lifting such weights is going to take a heavy toll on the bones, joints, tendons etc
laugh now, cry later
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(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/attachments/kilpailijat-ja-bodyjuorut/5912d1094200852-jp-fuxin-vanhat-onnettomuuskuvat-jpfux6.jpg)
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Please explain why you think he is ruining his knees. In my opinion his squat is fine.
The way he bounces! I dont care who you are or what you think you are with that weight, even with half that weight itll take its toll
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Even if you use the strictest form, squatting 700+ pounds for so many years WILL take a toll on your body. The human body was not meant for that type of lifting. Then again, I am sure there are guys who are perfectly fine with squatting so much weight. I guess it all depends on the individual person.
Knees of peace.
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
At first, I thought it said, Raw no Pull Out... Damn, getbig. lol
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Even if you use the strictest form, squatting 700+ pounds for so many years WILL take a toll on your body. The human body was not meant for that type of lifting. Then again, I am sure there are guys who are perfectly fine with squatting so much weight. I guess it all depends on the individual person.
Knees of peace.
THIS!!
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Even if you use the strictest form, squatting 700+ pounds for so many years WILL take a toll on your body. The human body was not meant for that type of lifting. Then again, I am sure there are guys who are perfectly fine with squatting so much weight. I guess it all depends on the individual person.
Knees of peace.
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Are there things, cone head?
That is why I also added, "It depends on the individual person" but I guess you conveniently skipped over that part ::) ::)
As an example:
Person 1: eats red meat, bacon, smokes and drinks and lives to be 100
Person 2: is a vegetarian and marathon runner and dies of a heart attack at 30.
As I said, depends on the individual person and their genetics. Next time read my WHOLE statement. ::) ::)
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http://www.allthingsgym.com/milko-tokolas-brutal-squat-session/
http://www.allthingsgym.com/milko-tokola-250kg-squat/
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Are there things, cone head?
That is why I also added, "It depends on the individual person" but I guess you conveniently skipped over that part ::) ::)
As an example:
Person 1: eats red meat, bacon, smokes and drinks and lives to be 100
Person 2: is a vegetarian and marathon runner and dies of a heart attack at 30.
As I said, depends on the individual person and their genetics. Next time read my WHOLE statement. ::) ::)
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can have better looking legs using a third of that weight
but for weightlifting
this is essential
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Excellent response. ::) ::)
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ow
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can have better looking legs using a third of that weight
but for weightlifting
this is essential
Hmmm. I don't think so. Being strong is the only essential thing. And there are many ways to get strong.
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Hmmm. I don't think so. Being strong is the only essential thing. And there are many ways to get strong.
well
i saw an old ironmind video tape
"bulgarian training hall"
with a lot of legends (mostly dwarfs stacking plates all over the bar)
a lot of them squatted monster weights down in nearly slow motion, full pause at the bottom and exploded up
this seems more sensible to me
but it is definitely common among elite weightlifters do do them suicide squats like in the OP
they say it trains them to use the bar whip... but at what cost....
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Dwarfs stacking plates. ;D Now the question is, who are shorter, bodybuilders or weightlifters? ;D
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More taxing on the hips actually.
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Dwarfs stacking plates. ;D Now the question is, who are shorter, bodybuilders or weightlifters? ;D
heavyweight weightlifters are over 6' generally
hope this helps
this guys for example
mikhael koklyaev
Height 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)
Weight 350 lb (160 kg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yWBVZJ9ckQY/T83TFSuYHHI/AAAAAAAAA7I/msABkNtOvNs/s1600/06_koklyaev1.jpg)
hossein reza zadeh
Height 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in) (2007)
Weight 152 kg (340 lb) (2007)
(http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/hossein-rezazadeh-07.jpg)
evgeny chigishev
Height. 6' 1". Weight. 277 lbs
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzufPGqIsVHT-GwOAaZbQKYXrmY0iKWWaNlbDILyTbCpBu-WzuYg)
matthias steiner
Height 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) (2012)
Weight 145 kg (320 lb) (2012)
(http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/steiner-gewichtheberkarriere-29828659_mbqf-1363874685-29608862/2,w=650,c=0,view=.bild.jpeg)
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
Thread started by a Down's Syndrome dwarf that can't squat 170 lbs.
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what a fucking idiot
fun facts:
- he has healthier knees than non-lifters
- he has healthier knees than bodybuilders doing 180kg half-squats which RUIN your knees by creating structural imbalances
- doing 100-140kg full back squats without belt will make you stronger, healthier and less prone to injury than average person. yes, doing twice that amount is not as safe anymore but it is
WHAT IT TAKES TO BE OLYMPIC LIFTER, YOU DUMB FUCKS.
it is an OLYMPIC SPORT.
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i used to believe all that ^^
but after i quit olympic lifting and got detached from it all
and looked honestly at it all
i realized it's not coincidence all the old champions are train wrecks
alexeyev needs daily massage therapy his knees are shot to hell
back also shit
very common
the sport doesnt want you to know tho, dr tamas says weightlifting does a body good ::)
listen to these guys talk about injuries and ask yourself is this healthy
Everyday if I smile, it means my back is ok and so is my mood. It's not because I've done well in training. I'm just happy I'm OK after training. It hurts a lot, but what can I do, other than wear a belt or change the way I practice. It can't be cured. My back is what I depend on.
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Half of my friends from work have knees shot to hell from riding a fucking bicycle to work.
Does it mean that riding a bicycle is so fucking dangerous now?
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Half of my friends from work have knees shot to hell from riding a fucking bicycle to work.
Does it mean that riding a bicycle is so fucking dangerous now?
this is also a classic arguement the people in denial use. I know because I used to say this shit too. lol
but yes riding a bike and marathon running can also wear down the joints
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Thread started by a Down's Syndrome dwarf that can't squat 170 lbs.
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Squatted 200kg this week, i had it on video but camera doesnt seem to work at the mo
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this is also a classic arguement the people in denial use. I know because I used to say this shit too. lol
but yes riding a bike and marathon running can also wear down the joints
and now you're in denial with your steroid use instead
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and now you're in denial with your steroid use instead
what denial?
i am one of the least in denial people about anything and everything on this board
i am so much not in denial to the point i think it's better everybody would just do a mass suicide
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Squatted 200kg this week, i had it on video but camera doesnt seem to work at the mo
You are full of shit.
Just like your movie role = 100% bullshit.
You'd blow a donkey if you thought it would get you some attention on Getbig.
Fucking twat.
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
Chances are his knees are healthier all ours put together. Nothing wrong with Thay lift
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LMAO!! ;D ;D
(http://i45.tinypic.com/30v2jxx.jpg)
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
Chances are his knees are healthier all ours put together. Nothing wrong with Thay lift
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pat mendes, the guy on the video hadn't posted new vid's for a while.
typical example of guy coming from nowhere, set new un-official record at 19 y.o and disapear.
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From what I know every top olympic lifter like Zielinski, Dolega, Ilin can squat over 300kg after training session. I had opportunity to talk with a guy who trains olympic weightlifting in Poland, he claims IIRC Zielinski squats 340kg after snatches and cleans with perfect form, with belt.
They usually don't brag about it simply because they don't care. Pat Mendes is an internet star more than weightlifter, he never achieved anything anywhere.
Overall, USA is nothing in olympic weightlifting compared to Russia, Bulgaria or even Poland, Kazachstan.
BTW their training is fucking brutal. 6 days a week, 2 to 3 training sessions per day. Morning is like squat, snatch, clean, squat. Then snatch, clean&jerk, front squat. Then third, "light" session, working on weak points etc.
On top of that guys from lower weight categories of course diet down.
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6151/6238146653_e27f2b14ef.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6238/6238668894_47413bd256_z.jpg)
guy could compete in bodybuilding with BF like that.
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average oly lifter at my club during intense phase train 10 time a week
they squat two time a day on monday-wed-friday (6 set of 6 morning and 6 set of 6 afternoon with various percentage)
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pat mendes, the guy on the video hadn't posted new vid's for a while.
typical example of guy coming from nowhere, set new un-official record at 19 y.o and disapear.
He posted this a few weeks ago -
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200102956795099 .
That's 180kgs at 98kgs. They think he might try out for 2016 as a #94 or #105 lifter.
As to the whole squats thing, he's fine, they all drop like that. Olympic lifters do usually show higher rates of chronic hip and shoulder injury, but it's slight, and as SF1900 mentioned, it's more from years of heavy overuse than anything else.
You can't find anyone in high level physical sports that doesn't have a little wear and tear on them. Heck the average fat person walking around a department store is in a similar boat, just from everyday things.
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my old coach said to achieve decent level of weightlifting you need to train 18 hours a week (9 sessions, mon-wed-fri two sessions, tues-thurs-sat one sessions, sunday rest)
not worth it
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02:10 this is a more typical execution
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my old coach said to achieve decent level of weightlifting you need to train 18 hours a week (9 sessions, mon-wed-fri two sessions, tues-thurs-sat one sessions, sunday rest)
not worth it
Lifes too short for all that shit.
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Lifes too short for all that shit.
no kidding
lol @ lifting 18 hours a week and a guy with big arms who lifts like a pussy on some good juice gets all the girls
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no kidding
lol @ lifting 18 hours a week and a guy with big arms who lifts like a pussy on some good juice gets all the girls
Oh really, so life is all about who fucks most girls?
And besides:
(http://www.sportowiec.org/pub/images/editor/zdjecialistopad2011/Dimitry_Klokov5.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg63/ggibbs2008/73988_104410589632672_100001911946231_29996_8340083_n-2.jpg)
(http://www.bnews.kz/picture/380/news/45ecf2e85193003ba60bd924b6b61d4a.jpg)
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Oh really, so life is all about who fucks most girls?
And besides:
(http://www.sportowiec.org/pub/images/editor/zdjecialistopad2011/Dimitry_Klokov5.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg63/ggibbs2008/73988_104410589632672_100001911946231_29996_8340083_n-2.jpg)
(http://www.bnews.kz/picture/380/news/45ecf2e85193003ba60bd924b6b61d4a.jpg)
sorry but how old are you
this seems like a teenager's train of thought lol
sorry bro i dont mean to disrespect but lol
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annaballiccholo seems to be the only person in this thread who actually understands how harmful dropping ballistically into that position with nearly 800lbs actually is.
those john broz lifters actually do that seven days a week, max weights every session. I can only imagine how many drugs they need to take to keep their systems normalized, since studies show that even 'regular' olympic overtraining destroys pretty much every hormonal output
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Here's an actual paper of injuries in OL -
http://www.sportmedicine.ru/articles/injury_rates_and_profiles_of_elite_competitive_weightlifters.pdf .
And more -
http://www.setantacollege.com/wp-content/uploads/Journal_db/00124278-199402000-00008.pdf .
Also when you look at the Bulgarian Max every day, multiple types a day work outs, the things folks are missing are:
1) Those kids have multiple years building up to that frequency, plus the full restorative buffet.
2) Those programs aren't built around true 1 rep slam your head against the wall, have your wife slap you across the face, all while chugging a few halotestin tabs like Powerlifting maxes are. It's based off daily perceived maxes that are much mellower than true maxes. It's more of a "this feels heavy today, we'll stick with this" type max.
3) Also while the intensities are high, the volume is still modest by some bodybuilding standards. The total number of reps per day for any given exercise is still only low double digits.
4) Actually speak to the lifters that were in those programs, it may say xyz per day, but in practice it wasn't as rigorous. Guys could claim injuries and have an easy go of it, they could ask for more time on technique and shave off training time, they could even have smoking breaks.
It is a tough system, but actually look at the programming for a few months, it's different than what people think it is.
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Strong yes, but OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheelchair bound by 30
And when we ask you guys send videos how you do it, outcome look like this:
While doing it right means something like this:
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annaballiccholo seems to be the only person in this thread who actually understands how harmful dropping ballistically into that position with nearly 800lbs actually is.
those john broz lifters actually do that seven days a week, max weights every session. I can only imagine how many drugs they need to take to keep their systems normalized, since studies show that even 'regular' olympic overtraining destroys pretty much every hormonal output
rumor is that broz athletes are all on HGH and lots of it
not sure
cant they even test for HGH
not sure
however, go an talk to alexeyev ask him if heavy lifting does a body good ::)
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Vasily Alekseyev was also 300 + lbs for most of his life, how much of being a sedimentary adult, plus carrying that weight did him in?
Rigert, Pisarenko, Lowe, lots of Chinese weightlifters, etc..... are still pretty decent.
It's a repetitive use injury, it happens. It also doesn't help that most SHW Lifters carry heaps of weight well past their prime.