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Title: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Costanza on April 10, 2013, 12:47:57 AM
The Falcon is onto something.


Is An Alien Message Embedded In Our Genetic Code?


The answer to whether or not we are alone in the universe could be right under our nose, or, more literally, inside every cell in our body.

Could our genes have an intelligently designed “manufacturer’s stamp” inside them, written eons ago elsewhere in our galaxy? Such a “designer label” would be an indelible stamp of a master extraterrestrial civilization that preceded us by many millions or billions of years. As their ultimate legacy, they recast the Milky Way in their own biological image.

Vladimir I. shCherbak of al-Farabi Kazakh National University of Kazakhstan, and Maxim A. Makukov of the Fesenkov Astrophysical Institute, hypothesize that an intelligent signal embedded in our genetic code would be a mathematical and semantic message that cannot be accounted for by Darwinian evolution. They call it “biological SETI.” What’s more, they argue that the scheme has much greater longevity and chance of detecting E.T. than a transient extraterrestrial radio transmission.

Writing in the journal Icarus, they assert: “Once fixed, the code might stay unchanged over cosmological timescales; in fact, it is the most durable construct known. Therefore it represents an exceptionally reliable storage for an intelligent signature. Once the genome is appropriately rewritten the new code with a signature will stay frozen in the cell and its progeny, which might then be delivered through space and time.”

To pass the designer label test, any patterns in the genetic code must be highly statistically significant and possess intelligent-like features that are inconsistent with any natural know process, say the authors.

They go on to argue that their detailed analysis that the human genome (map here) displays a thorough precision-type orderliness in the mapping between DNA’s nucleotides and amino acids. “Simple arrangements of the code reveal an ensemble of arithmetical and ideographical patterns of symbolic language.” They say this includes the use of decimal notation, logical transformations, and the use of the abstract symbol of zero. “Accurate and systematic, these underlying patterns appear as a product of precision logic and nontrivial computing,” they assert.

ANALYSIS: Are We Living in a Hologram?

This interpretation leads them to a farfetched conclusion: that the genetic code, “appears that it was invented outside the solar system already several billions years ago.” This statement endorses the idea of panspermia, the hypothesis that Earth was seeded with interstellar life. It’s certainly a novel and bold approach to galaxy conquest if we imagine this was a deliberate Johnny Appleseed endeavor by super-beings.

However, there are other possibilities too. I’ve previously written about the far-out notion that the universe we observe was built just for us and exists inside a computer program (with apologies to The Matrix film trilogy). Therefore the idea that some programmer somewhere wrote the genetic code for life in their model universe is consistent with the authors’ suggestions.

Biological SETI inevitably smacks head-on into an idea that is completely antithetical to science: the concept of intelligent design (ID). The proposition of ID is that our biology is so complex it must have been engineered by a higher power.

ANALYSIS: Space Algae Invasion? Probably Not

To date, ID has been nothing more than biblical creationism in sheep’s clothing. Christian fundamentalists use it to push the teaching of creationism in schools as an alternative to “secular” evolution. (Which, by the way, is now being battled in school systems in four states.)

Can the claim of an alien signature in our genetic code be any more believable, or provable than biblical ID?

We know so little about the origin of life on Earth it seems presumptive to identify genetic structure that supposedly defies a natural explanation. Even the discovery of life elsewhere in the solar system would not provide an independent test of this idea. Panspermia could have naturally occurred among the planets and moons.

And, even if the genetic code is ultimately considered the handprint of an extraterrestrial grand designer, then who designed the designer?

Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 12:52:32 AM
Trust me they are not very smart. Refer to borat. And if people don't believe that borat is not a typical kazastani then you obviously haven't known any in real life.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Army of One on April 10, 2013, 01:02:31 AM
Great success!High Five!
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Costanza on April 10, 2013, 01:03:33 AM
Trust me they are not very smart. Refer to borat. And if people don't believe that borat is not a typical kazastani then you obviously haven't known any in real life.

Kazakhstani, not kazastani. So you're stereotyping that those who hail from Kazakhstan are unintelligent?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: BigCyp on April 10, 2013, 01:04:05 AM
Trust me they are not very smart. Refer to borat. And if people don't believe that borat is not a typical kazastani then you obviously haven't known any in real life.

Booty, no offence, but are you suggesting that genetic scientists in Kazakhstan are not smart, as opposed to you?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Army of One on April 10, 2013, 01:06:29 AM
Maybe these Kazakhs could remote view in Sevestase's brain and find the DNA that will enable Romanians to wash?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: 99 Bananas on April 10, 2013, 01:19:15 AM
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: BigCyp on April 10, 2013, 01:30:14 AM


Those idiots couldn't even draw properly  ::)
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 01:49:16 AM
Booty, no offence, but are you suggesting that genetic scientists in Kazakhstan are not smart, as opposed to you?
I just don't hold them up there when it comes to intelligence. I dated one for 12 months and it was like dating borat only a very good looking borat. I ended it when he wanted to move back there and take me with him.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Figo on April 10, 2013, 01:55:03 AM
I just don't hold them up there when it comes to intelligence. I dated one for 12 months and it was like dating borat only a very good looking borat. I ended it when he wanted to move back there and take me with him.

"My sister, she is number 2 prostitute in my village"

That always cracks me up
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 02:03:27 AM
"My sister, she is number 2 prostitute in my village"

That always cracks me up
It pretty much sums up how they think. My ex's father was sleeping with his ex and she was a former prostiture. He didn't see anything wrong with it. My ex's ex wife did black magic and was making spells on him.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Figo on April 10, 2013, 02:13:15 AM
It pretty much sums up how they think. My ex's father was sleeping with his ex and she was a former prostiture. He didn't see anything wrong with it. My ex's ex wife did black magic and was making spells on him.

I've met a lot of "open-minded" eastern europeans, mainly Bulgarians that think in that way, but there's also the conservative "normal" type
Maybe there's just a higher concentration of that there. But I don't think Borat is quite an accurate depiction ;D

For instance, I live in South Africa, but I don't live in a hut and ride an elephant ... Actually Sasha Baron-Cohen should do a movie based on african life...
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Army of One on April 10, 2013, 02:14:19 AM
"My sister, she is number 2 prostitute in my village"

That always cracks me up

Whole film is legendary
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Figo on April 10, 2013, 02:18:18 AM
Whole film is legendary

Dictator also great

"Hey, Sub-saharan..!"
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 02:38:23 AM
If the scientists were from Moscow then It would be a whole other matter. I would take the theory seriously then.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 03:10:16 AM
Clearly we got to get Falcon involved in this to determine the real truth.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 03:20:54 AM
Borat is a jew, and jews are the most intelligent indivduals upon the face of the earth, even smarter that Germans and Germanic peoples :'(
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 03:24:58 AM
Borat is a jew, and jews are the most intelligent indivduals upon the face of the earth, even smarter that Germans and Germanic peoples :'(
In the movie borat was not a jew. In real life he might be but the character he played disliked Jews.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Army of One on April 10, 2013, 03:48:37 AM
In the movie borat was not a jew. In real life he might be but the character he played disliked Jews.

Not making much of a case for being smarter than Kazakhstan Geneticists so far
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 10, 2013, 03:56:55 AM
Those idiots couldn't even draw properly  ::)

Yeah.

Drawingschool of Peace
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Griffith on April 10, 2013, 04:25:38 AM
Borat was filmed in Romania (the hometown scenes)

Anyway, interesting thread.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 10, 2013, 04:43:45 AM
Guess Prometheus has finally reached their theaters.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 10, 2013, 04:44:49 AM
Lol at any country with "Stan" as a suffix. Also, the movie "Mission to Mars" had this premise 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Dokey111 on April 10, 2013, 05:04:54 AM
Borat is a jew, and jews are the most intelligent indivduals upon the face of the earth, even smarter that Germans and Germanic peoples :'(

 :'(
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: _bruce_ on April 10, 2013, 05:09:44 AM
Maybe these Kazakhs could remote view in Sevestase's brain and find the DNA that will enable Romanians to wash?

Scientific breakthrough  ;D
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: rovingster on April 10, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Guess Prometheus has finally reached their theaters.

LOL
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Radical Plato on April 10, 2013, 08:05:13 AM
Everyone knows, God created heaven and earth and humans 6000 years ago.  The Bible tells me so.  And the Bible is true.   ::)
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: daddy8ball on April 10, 2013, 08:53:16 AM
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Post by: falco on April 10, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
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Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 01:58:22 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/spacemonkey_fg/Blog%20Pictures%20II/Prometheus20125.jpg)
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/n/new-prometheus-image-shows-previously-unseen-alien-105344-01-470-75.jpg)
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: tommywishbone on April 10, 2013, 02:01:14 PM
And these scientist got their comparison DNA samples from where exactly?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Marty Champions on April 10, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
if totally layed out in all possible geometrical layouts reverse backwards 1d 2d 3d in pairs ect you would find that the gene code reads like poetry probably
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Marty Champions on April 10, 2013, 02:56:06 PM
georgie c put alot of effort into this post and all getbiggers can do is make very weak attempts at joking about it

one day you wake up and realize joking gets you no where
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Costanza on April 10, 2013, 03:00:11 PM
if totally layed out in all possible geometrical layouts reverse backwards 1d 2d 3d in pairs ect you would find that the gene code reads like poetry probably

Strong hypothesis proposed Falcon, thought provoking.

Unfortunately I can't take credit for what was written, pasted it from here  http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/could-an-alien-message-be-embedded-in-our-genetic-code-130401.htm
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Marty Champions on April 10, 2013, 03:05:23 PM
Strong hypothesis proposed Falcon, thought provoking.

Unfortunately I can't take credit for what was written, pasted it from here  http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/could-an-alien-message-be-embedded-in-our-genetic-code-130401.htm

you still put your back into it solid post


im not even sure how long the dna code with in us is i heard its miles and miles long is this true?. i hear its something astronimical most likely that would take a decent while to map it out in all the directions possible to find a coded message
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Costanza on April 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
you still put your back into it solid post


im not even sure how long the dna code with in us is i heard its miles and miles long is this true?. i hear its something astronimical most likely that would take a decent while to map it out in all the directions possible to find a coded message

Approximately 60 billion miles in length. Took 10 years of continuous decoding to unravel.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Emmortal on April 10, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
And these scientist got their comparison DNA samples from where exactly?

Tommy, I like you but jesus, did you even read the article?  Comparison DNA? huh?  Essentially they stated that human DNA exhibits signs of intelligent design because its structure shows signs of higher order mathematics.

The rest of the article is speculation by the author saying we live in a holographic world created by some programmer who decided to build an ant farm in his computer.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 10, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
Tommy, I like you but jesus, did you even read the article?  Comparison DNA? huh?  Essentially they stated that human DNA exhibits signs of intelligent design because its structure shows signs of higher order mathematics.

The rest of the article is speculation by the author saying we live in a holographic world created by some programmer who decided to build an ant farm in his computer.

Sometimes that's what I think. John Constantine says so.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: booty on April 10, 2013, 06:21:21 PM
lol, booty, that movie wasnt even filmed in kazachstan,it was filmed in romania and declared as kazachstan.

lol, kazachstan has a toursist boom bc of this, yet borat wasnt even filmed there
It doesn't matter where it was filmed. It's still an accurate description of what the people are like there.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Voice of Doom on April 10, 2013, 06:53:09 PM
How would we distiguish what makes certain parts of the DNA "alien"?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 07:11:13 PM
It doesn't matter where it was filmed. It's still an accurate description of what the people are like there.
Is this you booty and how you feel at times?
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Costanza on April 10, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
How would we distiguish what makes certain parts of the DNA "alien"?


Excellent question.
Title: Re: Kazakhstani scientists say we have alien DNA in our genetic code.
Post by: Viking11 on April 10, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
What they haven't disclosed yet is that by decoding the DNA through numerical analysis you get the chemical formula for Coke Zero...