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Title: Sugar
Post by: arce1988 on April 11, 2013, 02:18:34 PM
Personal diet

Kenyon's research prompted her to make personal dietary changes. She stopped eating high glycemic index carbohydrates when she discovered that putting sugar on the worms' food shortened their lifespans.[4]
Kenyon follows a low glycemic index diet similar to the Atkins diet[4] and the South Beach Diet.[5]
No desserts. No sweets. No potatoes. No rice. No bread. No pasta. When I say ‘no,’ I mean ‘no, or not much,’ she notes. Instead, eat green vegetables. Eat the fruits that aren't the sweet fruits, like melon. Bananas? Bananas are a little sweet. Meat? Meat, yes, of course. Avocados. All vegetables. Nuts. Fish. Chicken. That's what I eat. Cheese. Eggs. And one glass of red wine a day.[6]
But the diet is unproven, she cautions, and she's not recommending it for all. Nevertheless, she's pleased with its performance for her. 'I have a fabulous blood profile. My triglyceride level is only 30, and anything below 200 is good.'[6]
You have to eat something, and you just have to make your best judgment. And that's my best judgment. Plus, I feel better. Plus, I'm thin—I weigh what I weighed when I was in college. I feel great —you feel like you're a kid again. It's amazing.[6]
In the past, Kenyon had also briefly experimented with a calorie restriction diet for two days, but couldn't stand the constant hunger.[4]
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: arce1988 on April 11, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Kenyon
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: deadz on April 11, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Sugar is bad
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: arce1988 on April 11, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
Kenyon's research prompted her to make personal dietary changes.

She stopped eating high glycemic index carbohydrates when she discovered that putting sugar on the worms' food shortened their lifespans.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: gracie bjj on April 11, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
interesting article, my wife just brought home some fried black ants from colombia when she went there to visit her family, she keeps asking me to try them  :-\
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Papper on April 11, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
-on white sugar rich diet

-on whyte suger reach die-the

() why(the) (on) su(r)ge() reach die()

why are you on the surge that leads to death?
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 11, 2013, 02:32:50 PM
Seeing as sugar containing foods are seasonal, it seems logical to assume that human beings weren't meant to consume sugar in large quantities. 
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 11, 2013, 05:44:40 PM
even the slow carbs are nothing but sugar chained together.

the amount makes the poison.

most ppl overestimate how much they "need"

What's your opinion on a daily requirement?
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: BigCyp on April 12, 2013, 01:37:56 AM
What's your opinion on a daily requirement?

Galeniko is currently maintaining his mass on 5 cheerios post workout
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Hulkotron on April 12, 2013, 01:39:29 AM
mesmorph maintains his super-natural physique with a Jamaica jerk chicken wing and two pieces of dry toast per day.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 01:47:45 AM
First Heme Iron now this.  :-\

Gayer than Craigslisting for a ball gag collection.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 01:52:50 AM
Cynthia approves this message.  :D

(http://discovermagazine.com/~/media/import/images/5/9/c/dawards-kenyon)
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: BigCyp on April 12, 2013, 01:53:28 AM
mesmorph maintains his super-natural physique with a Jamaica jerk chicken wing and two pieces of dry toast per day.

On his cheat days he throws in 4 slices of plantain to make sure he throws up the 150 pounders!
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 01:59:58 AM
On his cheat days he throws in 4 slices of plantain to make sure he throws up the 150 pounders!
No. He does that to remain in touch with his inner gorilla.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Marty Champions on April 12, 2013, 05:15:24 AM
Seeing as sugar containing foods are seasonal, it seems logical to assume that human beings weren't meant to consume sugar in large quantities. 

not necessarily because you can can or bottle sugary fruits for preservation
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:19:02 AM
Galeniko is currently maintaining his mass on 5 cheerios post workout

all 160, er... i mean 220 of it
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 05:22:40 AM
not necessarily because you can can or bottle sugary fruits for preservation

You can do this but that doesn't change the most important fact that the human body has not evolve much since before the time of food preservation.  Physiologically, human are essentially the same as their hunter/ gatherer ancestors.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Marty Champions on April 12, 2013, 05:36:41 AM
You can do this but that doesn't change the most important fact that the human body has not evolve much since before the time of food preservation.  Physiologically, human are essentially the same as their hunter/ gatherer ancestors.

i think we have an endless capacity, i think weve always tried to preserve food , its instinctual to save and perserve knowing you cant survive without it
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 05:46:13 AM
i think we have an endless capacity, i think weve always tried to preserve food , its instinctual to save and perserve knowing you cant survive without it

Maybe but the variety of foods capable of being store for any appreciable time before the advent of agriculture would have been extremely limited.  High fructose foods spoil fast because particular bacteria are specialized to consume them.  You can dry fruits but that changes bioavailability of nutrients.  It's even more complex when you calculate the energy expenditures required to obtain food on pre-agricultural people's in relation to food availability.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Marty Champions on April 12, 2013, 06:33:58 AM
Maybe but the variety of foods capable of being store for any appreciable time before the advent of agriculture would have been extremely limited.  High fructose foods spoil fast because particular bacteria are specialized to consume them.  You can dry fruits but that changes bioavailability of nutrients.  It's even more complex when you calculate the energy expenditures required to obtain food on pre-agricultural people's in relation to food availability.

there probably wouldnt have been much of a need to preserve fruits anyways since they are fresh seasonal mainly preserving nuts and fats would have been key

of course meat

i can defnitly see fats being important in the winter so would meat

but nowadays meat is unessential because of heme-iron
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 06:44:07 AM
there probably wouldnt have been much of a need to preserve fruits anyways since they are fresh seasonal mainly preserving nuts and fats would have been key

of course meat

i can defnitly see fats being important in the winter so would meat

but nowadays meat is unessential because of heme-iron

That was my original point.  Carbohydrate laden foods are seasonal so probably weren't consume in high quantities all year long. It would makes sense in context of the switch to ketone use in the absence of carbohydrates. 
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
Seeing as sugar containing foods are seasonal, it seems logical to assume that human beings weren't meant to consume sugar in large quantities. 
Human beings weren`t "meant" to wear eyeglasses, take medication for any health problems, drive cars, fly planes, build cities, invent electricity-so I guess we don`t need those things either.  :-\
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 06:46:52 AM
That was my original point.  Carbohydrate laden foods are seasonal so probably weren't consume in high quantities all year long. It would makes sense in context of the switch to ketone use in the absence of carbohydrates. 
No they weren`t.  Where humans originated, Africa, fruit trees produce year round.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Marty Champions on April 12, 2013, 06:47:49 AM
Human beings weren`t "meant" to wear eyeglasses, take medication for any health problems, drive cars, fly planes, build cities, invent electricity-so I guess we don`t need those things either.  :-\

this is also true

us humans adapt any way we can

even eye glasses  are an adaption they might not be as optimal as quittin heme iron but they are good enough
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
Maybe but the variety of foods capable of being store for any appreciable time before the advent of agriculture would have been extremely limited.  High fructose foods spoil fast because particular bacteria are specialized to consume them.  You can dry fruits but that changes bioavailability of nutrients.  It's even more complex when you calculate the energy expenditures required to obtain food on pre-agricultural people's in relation to food availability.
Honey doesn`t spoil.  Either does Corn Syrup.

http://www.karosyrup.com/faq_text.html

How long can Karo syrup be stored?
   
Karo syrup is safe to eat for an indefinite period of time whether it has been opened or not opened. However, for best results we recommend using before the "Best by" date stamped on the container. Bottles may be refrigerated after opening, however, the syrup will be thicker and slower to pour.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 06:56:53 AM
there probably wouldnt have been much of a need to preserve fruits anyways since they are fresh seasonal mainly preserving nuts and fats would have been key

of course meat

i can defnitly see fats being important in the winter so would meat

but nowadays meat is unessential because of heme-iron
Winter in Africa is not really all that bad.  ;)
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: bigmc on April 12, 2013, 07:01:49 AM
Winter in Africa is not really all that bad.  ;)

do you have any recipes for gluten free pizza adam
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: BigCyp on April 12, 2013, 07:03:51 AM
do you have any recipes for gluten free pizza adam

Just use the regular ingredients i.e. dried yeast, warm water, olive oil etc and replace the wheat flour with a mixture of rice four/potato flour
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 07:05:40 AM
No they weren`t.  Where humans originated, Africa, fruit trees produce year round.

All plants go through a cycle of growth and all plants aren't on the same growth cycle meaning some plant foods will be available at certain times.  These plants were harvested wild, since they was no agriculture, and subject to competition by other species and enciornmental variables-meaning-acquisition and consumption would not have been on a consistent basis, and certainly not to the degree consumed presently.

Human beings weren`t "meant" to wear eyeglasses, take medication for any health problems, drive cars, fly planes, build cities, invent electricity-so I guess we don`t need those things either.  :-\

In a way, that is true but also not true. Evolutionarily speaking, those who were not capable of hunting game or surviving illness would have died off.  But, human beings have also evolved to be inventive and social creatures who adapt not only biologically but culturally and intellectual.  We care for each others and find solutions to problems.

The differences being that the use of glasses, for example, aren't contrary to our biological programming.  A better analogy would be the inhalation of  carbon dioxide, which in small quantities won't harm you but in large amounts will be deadly.  We have evolved to handle a particular threshold and anything above that threshold is lethal.  

I have to admit I'm simply speculating.  I enjoy the exchange of ideas and don't have a strong opinion.  
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 07:09:07 AM
Honey doesn`t spoil.  Either does Corn Syrup.

http://www.karosyrup.com/faq_text.html

How long can Karo syrup be stored?
   
Karo syrup is safe to eat for an indefinite period of time whether it has been opened or not opened. However, for best results we recommend using before the "Best by" date stamped on the container. Bottles may be refrigerated after opening, however, the syrup will be thicker and slower to pour.

All these foods have gone through a process of refinement and processing.  Im specifically referring to human evolution before the advent of agriculture.  Our bodies havent changed much since that point.  Also, human vary a lot, which is a necessary component of evolution, and some individuals are going to be more tolerant to certain foods.
Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: The True Adonis on April 12, 2013, 09:03:52 AM
do you have any recipes for gluten free pizza adam
No and you have no business bothering with Gluten Free anything.  Celiac Disease occurs in less than 1 percent of the population, it is EXTREMELY RARE.  Its a fad and you are taking the bait, hook line and sinker.




Title: Re: Sugar
Post by: Rudee on April 12, 2013, 09:48:45 AM
Sugar is bad


Sugar is not bad.  Anything in moderation is fine.  Excess sugar is potentially bad, if you are not burning it off.